From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V9 #266 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Monday, September 25 2000 Volume 09 : Number 266 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: gnatmaniax! [bocchi ball ] Re: alt-rock guitar ["Russ Reynolds" ] Re: East coast dates! [bocchi ball ] Re: AC [bocchi ball ] randi news? [bocchi ball ] Re: alt-rock guitar [Terrence Marks ] Bulgarian Women Guitar Heroes ["Andrew D. Simchik" ] Re: alt-rock guitar [Jeff Dwarf ] Re: AC [Eb ] Re: alt-rock guitar [Eb ] Re: alt-rock guitar [Jeff Dwarf ] My Introduction ["Jack Tripper" ] RE: gnatmaniax! ["Bachman, Michael" ] Re: My Introduction [dmw ] Re: [ebmaniax-l] Elastic Meat [lj lindhurst ] Re: alt-rock hero guitar babes [GSS ] Re: [ebmaniax-l] Elastic Meat [Michael Wolfe ] Re: alt-rock guitar [Tom Clark ] Re: alt-rock guitar [Tom Clark ] Re: AC/tori/sarah/blah/blah/kill me now/blah/blah [lj lindhurst ] Re: My Introduction/ DC feggery [Bayard ] self-pedantry is the best [Bayard ] re: east coast dates [bocchi ball ] addendum to previous concert-habits post [Eb ] Re: DC feggery [Christopher Gross ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2000 22:31:52 -0400 From: bocchi ball Subject: Re: gnatmaniax! when we last left our heroes, Natalie Jacobs exclaimed: >So that was NXNW. I could have basked in the glow of Amy Correia at noon >today, but I was still feeling sick from the pizza, and I still have the >lingering suspicion that she sounds like a marginally more talented Sheryl >Crow (ack). after three or so listens to the "transportation songs" ep, i'd say that your suspicisions are unfounded. sheryl crow sets my teeth on edge. amy has yet do so, even though her voice is perhaps too raspy for my taste. more importantly (for me anyways), amy's songs seems to have more interesting musical twists to them. i say "seems" since i'm not that familiar with sheryl crow's albums but from what i've heard on the radio and such, i don't get the impression that she's pushing the musical envelope that much. amy really isn't either, but at least there's a nice spectrum on the ep -- from the subdued cello of "angels collide" to the poppy "the bike" to the horn section on "gramophone" (which, incidentally, features matt chamberlain from tori amos' touring band on drums). anyways, like drew, i'm not bewitched, but i like her just fine. i'll pick up _carnival love_ if i see it used (even at the rather high price of $8 that most of the local shops charge for used discs) but i wouldn't buy it new. woj ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2000 19:43:08 -0700 From: "Russ Reynolds" Subject: Re: alt-rock guitar > Eddie recovered from checkthislinkitis: >>nevertheless (and depending what you mean by "alt-rock"): >>robyn hitchcock > > you must be kidding reminder: fegmaniax=Robyn Hitchcock fans. No doubt at least a few in the throng admire his guitar playing. >>richard thompson > > Definitely a guitar hero, but not alternative. He's certainly not mainstream. To me that makes him alternative. > DMW: No one would know Richard Lloyd if he wasn't linked with Tom Verlaine > (witness Lloyd's invisible solo career), I guess that makes him even more alternative then, doesn't it. Anyway, I for one have heard some of Lloyds solo work and find it incredibly good, invisible or not. I prefer him to Verlaine. He gets my pick of all the nominations so far. >Peter Buck Call me nuts but I don't think of Buck as much more than a rythm guitarist. He's certainly no virtuoso. I too would take hitchcock over buck (wouldn't that be cool if there were some sort of rotisserie league for rock & roll? let's have a draft!), though I wouldn't rank RH anywhere near the top. - -rUss bark if your team's victory song is "Who Let The Dogs Out" woof! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2000 23:28:00 -0400 From: bocchi ball Subject: Re: East coast dates! when we last left our heroes, lj lindhurst exclaimed: >>grrrrr. joe's pub is a okay place but is generally full of annoying people >>(and not just because it's associated with the public theater). >Joe's Pub is a GREAT place to see shows, ya nut! eh. i've been there a few times just after they started having shows and each time was rather unpleasant. the tables and booths are not the problem - -- it was the audience that was particularly talkative, especially at the bar. if the place was laid out without tables and booths, the press of humanity would at least limit the din coming from the bar. then again, maybe that problem's been solved by a higher cover. >Also, they have great martinis >(paging Dr. Clark), which is usually a glaring omission at most Robyn >shows, IMHO dunno. the one before the last bowery ballroom show was pretty damn good. >So who's with us?? We can't go on the 17th (opera season is upon us, >after all), but we will surely be there on the 19th. i'd like to go to all three of the nyc-area shows but we'll see what happens. i'll at least plan for the 19th so that we can continue the tradition of me turning down your offer of illicit drugs. ;) woj ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2000 23:18:46 -0400 From: bocchi ball Subject: Re: AC when we last left our heroes, Eb exclaimed: >I won't say much about the Amy Correia concert tonight, since it was >essentially redundant and I was going more for social than musical reasons. why not musical reasons? i can think of many performers i've seen and will see multiple times specifically for the musical reasons. does amy not vary her performances that much? >I did hear one tonight, and I already have enough excruciating memories of >Saps Who Call Out "We Love You, Tori!!" and Saps Who Call Out "We Love You, >Sarah!!".... you think *you* have of those excruciating memories? trust me, i have more, not to mention the "we love you ani!!!" (note the three exclamation points) memories as well. >However, guess whom she may be opening for in New York? ROBYN HITCHCOCK!!!!!! that would be kind of cool as i wouldn't mind seeing her play. if she doesn't, though, i've nothing planned on october 20th and may trundle down to nyc to see her at the cutting room. under normal conditions, i would have expected her to play someplace like arlene grocery (or, if her record company was backing her enough, at fez) for a first big-time appearance in new york but with cmj going on, you play where ever you can. hmmm. just read her annoying "web-designed" bio and i see she got her start in new york city ten or so years ago and was playing places like fez and cb's gallery in the mid 90s. interesting. i wonder if i saw her play and just don't remember it.... >I may love Amy's current album, but I'm not yet confident >about her prospects for longevity as a songwriter. she wouldn't be the first short-timer but i wouldn't worry about it right now, eb. just enjoy the record. woj ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2000 23:46:15 -0400 From: bocchi ball Subject: randi news? has anyone heard from her since she moved out? her gurlmail.com account is flooded so e-mailing her is not going to be possible.... +w ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 00:22:39 -0400 (EDT) From: Terrence Marks Subject: Re: alt-rock guitar On Sun, 24 Sep 2000, Russ Reynolds wrote: > >>robyn hitchcock > > > > you must be kidding > > reminder: fegmaniax=Robyn Hitchcock fans. No doubt at least a few in the > throng admire his guitar playing. He's a good guitarist. He's certainly gotten better in recent years. He can really shred, once or twice. But he's not really a guitar hero. Even if he has the skills, he doesn't to it often enough or prominently enough to qualify. Terrence Marks Unlike Minerva (a comic strip) http://www.unlikeminerva.com HCF (another comic strip) http://www.mpog.com/hcf normal@grove.ufl.edu ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2000 21:32:22 -0700 (PDT) From: "Andrew D. Simchik" Subject: Bulgarian Women Guitar Heroes > From: Eb > > Drew: > >> Laika > > > >I heard their latest is good. I liked the other one but couldn't bring > >myself to buy it. Is this one a step forward? > > There are *three* Laika albums, you know.... Sorry, you're right. I have _Silver Apples of the Moon_ and was referring to _Songs of the Satellites_. > The new one is a bit samey from track to track, but I revel in the > polyrhythms and crystalline production values. The rhythm textures keep > giving me a mental image of scissor blades, metallically swishing in the > air -- nifty stuff. That sounds boss. I'm going to have to check it out. > From: steve > > Andrew D. Simchik: > > >I'm going to see the Bulgarian Women's Choir (sort > >of an acoustic indie singer/songwriter affair, I imagine) > > I think you got the acoustic part right. Do they have another name in Bulgaria? One that suggests more strongly that they are, like, _the_ Bulgarian Women's Choir? > From: Eb > > I'll take the Edge, Really? I've never liked or really listened to U2, but it was always my understanding that the Edge's playing was very basic and uninteresting stuff once you got down to the nitty-gritty. Was I misinformed? > Joey Santiago just had a > cute > style. I can play his parts, which is proof enough to me that he's not a guitar hero. I mean, if _I_ can do it, anyone can! :) Drew ===== Andrew D. Simchik: drew at stormgreen dot com http://www.stormgreen.com/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2000 23:33:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: alt-rock guitar Russ Reynolds wrote: > bark if your team's victory song is "Who Let The Dogs Out" > > > > > > woof! mariners fans shouldn't be barking right now......i thought ellis burks was going out of his way to point out that the giants REAL song was that bloody santana/matchbox-20-dork piece of crap.... ===== "[I]t's important for the maintenance of consensus that some people keep on being scared of what might happen and probably won't; otherwise, they would not be such easy prey for what can happen and actually has. There is even a name for this tactic -- it's called 'triangulation' -- and eight years of it have been much more than enough." -- Christopher Hichens in Mother Jones, Sep/Oct 2000 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 00:35:22 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: AC Woj: >>I won't say much about the Amy Correia concert tonight, since it was >>essentially redundant and I was going more for social than musical reasons. > >why not musical reasons? i can think of many performers i've seen and will >see multiple times specifically for the musical reasons. does amy not vary >her performances that much? I've never been someone who's desperate to see bands more than once, during short periods. You might already have concluded this, based on my indifference to concert-tape weenieism. Once per album (and rarely even *that* often) is fine with me. I wouldn't know what artist I've seen the most (I used to think it was fIREHOSE...), but I doubt I've seen *anyone* more than six or seven times. Actually, Robyn Hitchcock definitely would be on my leader board, and this figures, since I've gone to at least two RH shows mostly for social reasons. Sonic Youth would be up there, too...oh, and this hilarious local band from days of yore called El Grupo Sexo, whom I suspect is totally unknown to everyone on this list (Sexo players graduated to membership in Fluf and Bazooka, however -- those two groups aren't nearly so obscure). At any rate, I suspect Beck will be end up #1 somewhere down the road, because he's local and because I *never* tire of seeing that funky little man reinvent himself. :) I hope to see him next month, in fact -- it's an all-acoustic show! Anyway, this Amy C. binge might be only the third time I've ever seen an artist headline twice during a year. And the other two times I recall had special circumstances. One was Pere Ubu around 1991 (the first show -- at the Roxy -- had a terrible vibe, because David Thomas was really pissed off at all the blasé industry types in the crowd...so I went to a second show in Long Beach which was miles better, and even became documented on a promotional 12-inch). The other was King Crimson around 1984, and that was sort of an accident -- I bought a ticket for one show, then won tickets to a second show from my future college radio station. But to answer your specific question: Yes, Amy's appearances don't seem to vary that much, based on what I've seen. And that's certainly one of the things which makes me worry about her future productivity. >>I did hear one tonight, and I already have enough excruciating memories of >>Saps Who Call Out "We Love You, Tori!!" and Saps Who Call Out "We Love You, >>Sarah!!".... > >you think *you* have of those excruciating memories? trust me, i have more, I don't doubt that for even the tiniest millisecond. ;) >hmmm. just read her annoying "web-designed" bio Actually, that "web-designed" bio is a verbatim duplication of a small booklet which accompanied advance copies of her album. The "pages" of the web bio are identical to the pages in the booklet. Note: The original booklet was very small -- only about 4" x 3". Eb ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 00:38:43 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: alt-rock guitar Russ: >>>richard thompson >> >> Definitely a guitar hero, but not alternative. > >He's certainly not mainstream. Only in that he doesn't sell well. Put it this way: I think Thompson's work of the last 20 years is more mainstream/accessible than Dylan's during the same period, and I'd certainly call Dylan "mainstream." I can't imagine anyone "wouldn't be able to handle" Richard Thompson, even if his music didn't appeal to them in the end. The only thing at all unpalatable about him is that his voice is a bit of an acquired taste...that's about it. >>Peter Buck >Call me nuts but I don't think of Buck as much more than a rythm guitarist. >He's certainly no virtuoso. That's true enough. However, he's also vastly influential and emulated. If nothing else, his incredible number of guitar cameos seals his "hero" status. At the time, it seemed like he played on almost *every* college-rock album of the mid/late '80s.... :) Eb, who's newly returned from seeing The Brian but won't be posting to [ebmaniax] tonight ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 01:21:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: alt-rock guitar Eb wrote: >>>Peter Buck >>Call me nuts but I don't think of Buck as much more than a rythm >>guitarist. He's certainly no virtuoso. > > That's true enough. However, he's also vastly influential and > emulated. If nothing else, his incredible number of guitar cameos > seals his "hero" status. At the time, it seemed like he played on > almost *every* college-rock album of the mid/late '80s.... :) and if he wasn't, Johnny Marr or Uncle Al[ien/ain] Jourgensen were... Buck also benefits from being able to play alongside Mike Mills, who early on did a great job of covering for Buck's limitations, and whose bass playing grew very (for want of a better term) organically along with Buck's guitar work. I'd almost go so far as to say that Buck-Mills have the most symbiotic playing relation of almost an guitarist-bassist combination i can think of. although i'm sure that several people will now come up with better ones. ===== "[I]t's important for the maintenance of consensus that some people keep on being scared of what might happen and probably won't; otherwise, they would not be such easy prey for what can happen and actually has. There is even a name for this tactic -- it's called 'triangulation' -- and eight years of it have been much more than enough." -- Christopher Hichens in Mother Jones, Sep/Oct 2000 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 04:22:34 -0500 From: "Jack Tripper" Subject: My Introduction Hello. My name is Jason. I recently joined this mailing list (recently, like, 1 minute ago) and am very excited about it. My obsession with everything Hitchcock began, oh, about 7 years ago when, finding nothing in a CD store I picked up "A Can Of Bees" - the Ryko disc, with the billiions of tracks. I think I got it because I had read good things (mostly in R.E.M. interviews, I was just coming out of an R.E.M. phase), I liked the cover, but most of all the weird song titles! "Sandra's Having Her Brain Out", "Wading Through Your Ventilator"....I've gotten into several bands on the aesthetics of the song titles alone (Guided By Voices, The Fall, Spoon) and Hitchcock of course did not disappoint. I remember especially how bizarre "Sandra's Having Her Brain Out" sounded - all those weird parts that seemed to fit just because the band said so, the 4 part harmony, the weird r&b harmonica fueled ending. I was ecstatic. The next stuff I bought was 3 records second hand - Fegmania!, Globe of Frogs, and the live picture disc EP. Out of those three I liked (and still do) Globe of Frogs the best. Imagine my surprise when I started reading all these critical reviews, many of them classifying 'Globe of Frogs' as part of Robyn's dark period where he was lost, not up to snuff, et cetera. I guess I'm wrong, then, but that (and Respect) are to me damn solid records (excuse my swearing right off the bat, I'm a sailor). And here we are 7 years later and of course I've got the complete collection, even a couple boots hanging around (have the Dylan show and Kershaw Sessions (the long one) if anyone's into trading!). And now I'm joining this list. Obsessed, I tell you! I'm looking forward to hearing what other people have to say on some of my favourite songs, having some virtual conversations with fellow fans (I know NO ONE in my day to day life who likes Hitchcock. I'm lucky if the lad or lady has heard of him!). Oh, and before I go I wanted to mention I think Robyn of late as a songwriter is only getting better and better. I see good times ahead for us fans. That's my spiel. Hope you all have a good Monday (if it's possible!) Sincerely, Jason ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 08:22:08 -0400 From: "Bachman, Michael" Subject: RE: gnatmaniax! I first saw "cuddle-core" with the Vancouver based band cub. cub's slogan 6 years ago was "cuddle-core 94". Michael - -----Original Message----- From: Aaron Mandel [mailto:aaron@eecs.harvard.edu] Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2000 9:11 PM To: Natalie Jacobs Cc: fegmaniax@smoe.org Subject: Re: gnatmaniax! On Sat, 23 Sep 2000, Natalie Jacobs wrote: > But I did decide to opt for an evening of "cuddle-core" (did I make > that up? It seems too clever for me) if you made it up, you did it at least about five years ago... i remember seeing it used in print to refer to Bunnygrunt's first album. and punk has meant cuddle, as Tsunami said, since a few years before then. a ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 08:36:39 -0400 (EDT) From: dmw Subject: Re: My Introduction On Mon, 25 Sep 2000, Jack Tripper wrote: > "Wading Through Your Ventilator"....I've gotten into several bands on the > aesthetics of the song titles alone (Guided By Voices, The Fall, Spoon) and > Hitchcock of course did not disappoint. I remember especially how bizarre interesting...i may've picked up the habit of doing this partly from hitchcock. the first record i can remember buying on the strength of song titles alone was the catheads _hubba_ (lego down, power, love & pizza...) ...but there may've been earlier ones that i don't recall. anyway, welcome to our gang. - -- d. np kinks _muswell hillbillies_ - - oh no, you've just read mail from doug = dmw@radix.net - get yr pathos - - www.pathetic-caverns.com -- books, flicks, tunes, etc. = reviews - - www.fecklessbeast.com -- angst, guilt, fear, betrayal! = guitar pop ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 10:17:41 -0400 From: lj lindhurst Subject: Re: [ebmaniax-l] Elastic Meat >i read sometime in the last few months that Cris' brother (his name >escapes me at the moment) had gone missing. he was apparantly a known >junkie and this wasn't the first time he'd disappeared, but this was >definitely the longest and (iirc) they were assuming the worst. the >articles is probably archived on the Phoenix (AZ) New Times website >somewhere.. I know that Eb (or someone) may have posted this URL a while back, but it's a good story about Cris and his never-ending heroin troubles: http://www.auschron.com/issues/vol18/issue18/music.kirkwood.html l - -- * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * LJ Lindhurst White Rabbit Graphic Design http://www.w-rabbit.com NYC ljl@w-rabbit.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 11:28:05 -0500 (CDT) From: GSS Subject: Re: alt-rock hero guitar babes On Mon, 25 Sep 2000, Eb wrote: > same period, and I'd certainly call Dylan "mainstream." I can't imagine I think it is more like, i'd call the mainstream 'dylan'. I can listen to dylan and hear lots of different bands, but when I listen to just about any alt/pop/rock/ I hear dylan. gss ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 16:51:01 +0000 (GMT) From: Michael Wolfe Subject: Re: [ebmaniax-l] Elastic Meat >on 9/22/00 4:41 PM, Eb at gondola@deltanet.com wrote: > >> There wasn't much instrumental >> flash, not even in Kirkwood's own playing, and that's a shame since he >> remains one of our few genuine, alt-rock guitar heroes (Tom Verlaine, >> Robert Quine, Billy Zoom, Thurston Moore, J Mascis, Tom Morello...ummmm, >> who else?). > >I smell a thread!! > >Here are two for discussion: Richard Lloyd and Joey Santiago. Yeah! Jo-EY, baby! How about Doug Marsch? - -Michael ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1904 16:18:38 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: alt-rock guitar on 9/24/00 7:43 PM, Russ Reynolds at rcreation@earthlink.net wrote: >> DMW: No one would know Richard Lloyd if he wasn't linked with Tom Verlaine >> (witness Lloyd's invisible solo career), > > I guess that makes him even more alternative then, doesn't it. Anyway, I > for one have heard some of Lloyds solo work and find it incredibly good, > invisible or not. I prefer him to Verlaine. He gets my pick of all the > nominations so far. I agree with Russ (again). Whether or not Lloyd has had a successful solo career really doesn't change the fact that he's a great guitarist. I think Verlaine plays the Alt-Rock-God part as well as he can, while Lloyd just loves the music. Witness his side work for the then not so popular Matthew Sweet. I'm done. - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 10:32:20 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: alt-rock guitar >on 1/3/04 4:18 PM, Tom Clark at tclark@reardensteel.com wrote: Looks like the beta test of our time machine went pretty well! - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 13:47:15 -0400 From: lj lindhurst Subject: Re: AC/tori/sarah/blah/blah/kill me now/blah/blah eb: >>>I did hear one tonight, and I already have enough excruciating memories of >>>Saps Who Call Out "We Love You, Tori!!" and Saps Who Call Out "We Love You, >>>Sarah!!".... On that note (and I'm sure I bitched about this before), there's always an asshole at every EC concert who insists on yelling "ALISSOOOONNN!" over and over again. The best instance of this was when I saw EC with the Brodsky Quartet in Boston and Elvis finally broke down and snapped, "We're not going to play it, so shut the fuck up!" [On another occasion, there were these 2 redneck couples sitting in front of us who were VERY drunk, and when EC played "Poor Fractured Atlas", one of the guys turned to his date and shouted, "Yeah! Yeah! A woman WOULDN'T understand it!!! In your face!!! Yeah!!!" He puked and was thrown out of the show about 3 songs later...] Okay, and while I'm on the BitchWagon, here's something that TGQ and I have been bitching about ad nauseam for about a week now: Has anyone else noticed the tendency for commercials these days to sound like they came right out of the Sarah McLaughlin weepy folk-chick factory? Geez, does every Pillsbury product deem a heart-warming moment delivered in perfect shmaltz by some dumbitch with an acoustic guitar???!! Okay, okay, deep breaths...where's our pizza??? lj ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 11:14:51 PDT From: "Souped Up For Ja" Subject: Re: My Introduction can't answer for the reviews you've read, but robyn's "dark period when he was lost" was when he was making GROOVY DECAY. while i too enjoy GLOBE OF FROGS a great deal, robyn himself is not too fond of it. says it was a kind of parody of a robyn hitchcock album: they'd just signed to a&m, and wanted to prove it didn't mean they'd sell out; so they made a whole album about fish. <(excuse my swearing right off the bat> well factually, it's *quite* encouraged! what's the "long one"? (please, no wisecracks about eb's "unit". well, okay, maybe just one or two.) KEN "Don't cross the streams" THE KENSTER _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 14:29:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Bayard Subject: Re: My Introduction/ DC feggery > The next stuff I bought was 3 records second hand - Fegmania!, Globe of > Frogs, and the live picture disc EP. Out of those three I liked (and still > do) Globe of Frogs the best. I think I would rank my enjoyment of the A&M albums in descending chronological order. IE, I like Globe of Frogs the best. It's very enjoyable (even luminous rose!) Queen Elvis was the first RH production I didn't love thru and thru. But don't get me wrong. Imagine my surprise when I started reading all > these critical reviews, many of them classifying 'Globe of Frogs' as part of > Robyn's dark period where he was lost, not up to snuff, et cetera. By the way, i also like Groovy Decay. DC fegs: who is going to what shows? Should we arrange a feg-together for the first IOTA gig? Is anyone else besides Carissa and me going to the ram's head? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 14:43:24 -0400 (EDT) From: Bayard Subject: self-pedantry is the best > I think I would rank my enjoyment of the A&M albums in descending > chronological order. IE, I like Globe of Frogs the best. I think I meant, my enjoyment is inversely proportional to date of issue. Or something. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 15:20:12 -0400 From: bocchi ball Subject: re: east coast dates when we last left our heroes, rich plumb exclaimed: >speaking of the iota club dates. I just called the club and >was told the actual dates are October 29 (definite) and >October 30 (tentative). i forwarded this to david greenberger (and also mentioned the fact that the tla website indicates that somebody else is playing there on the 13th). here's his reply: >Here's the info I've just received from the booking agent for the tour: > >Fri-Oct-13 Philadelphia Theater of Living Arts (TLA) (Grant & Robyn) >Sun-Oct-15 Arlington, VA Iota Cafe (Grant & Robyn) >Mon-Oct-16 Arlington, VA Iota Cafe (Grant & Robyn) >Tue-Oct-17 New York Joe's Pub (Grant & Robyn) >Wed-Oct-18 Hoboken Maxwell's (Grant & Robyn) >Sun-Oct-22 Boston Middle East (Grant & Robyn) > >David which doesn't resolve any of the confusion...but it does look like the second nyc and second boston shows are actually provisional. ticketmaster bears this out since they are not yet selling tickets for the second middle east show. joe's pub hasn't announced either of their shows yet so who knows. woj ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 12:34:10 -0700 From: Eb Subject: addendum to previous concert-habits post I skimmed over my concert list...there's no easy way to definitively tabulate whom I've seen the most, but I was surprised to find that the #1 artist is probably none other than Mr. Robyn himself. Nine shows. I guess this makes sense, since I've seen him about three times now for "social reasons." Looks like the runners-up are Downy Mildew and Firehose, who were about seven times apiece. Seemed to be only a half-dozen bands whom I've seen five times or more. I also spotted four other bands (besides Pere Ubu and King Crimson) whom I've seen twice within days: the Spinanes, the Hang Ups, the High Llamas and the Muffs. All these isolated cases included some element of social obligation or extreme convenience. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 15:47:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Christopher Gross Subject: Re: DC feggery On Mon, 25 Sep 2000, Bayard wrote: > DC fegs: who is going to what shows? Should we arrange a feg-together for > the first IOTA gig? Is anyone else besides Carissa and me going to the > ram's head? I'm willing to go to any show that Bayard is willing to drive me home from. But hopefully my presence won't scare off the other Fegs! Groovily decayed, Chris ______________________________________________________________________ Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V9 #266 *******************************