From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V9 #261 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Wednesday, September 20 2000 Volume 09 : Number 261 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Songs From the Eb (Three Different Ones) [Eb ] Re: East coast dates! [lj lindhurst ] Re: East Coast dates [Rob Gronotte ] Re: Rushuurgghh... ["Randy R." ] Re: Rushuurgghh... [Eb ] Re: Rushuurgghh... [hbrandt ] Re: revenge for daring to mention Jerry Garcia in a post [Eb ] Re: tape trees and comic books [Eb ] Re: [ebmaniax-l] Songs From the Eb (Three Different Ones) ["Stewart C. Ru] AC [Eb ] reap (sorta) [Jeff Dwarf ] Re: Olias of Sunhillow [overbury@cn.ca] Couldn't give a toss if it's off topic... ["matt sewell" ] Re: Rushuurgghh... [hbrandt ] Re: Couldn't give a toss if it's off topic... [Michael R Godwin ] shirts [Terrence Marks ] not these two again [hbrandt ] re: east coast dates [rich plumb ] re: east coast dates [rich plumb ] just for the record [dmw ] news, on a recurrent discussion topic [Eb ] Re: not these two again [Eb ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 14:09:21 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: Songs From the Eb (Three Different Ones) >Before you dump it, be sure to check the story on the jacket. >It was when I bought this album that I finally realised Jon >was pulling a fast one on everybody, probably even himself. How so? >PS: You done the right thing when you bought that CD player. How so? Eb ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 17:17:47 -0400 From: lj lindhurst Subject: Re: East coast dates! >>October 17: Joe's Pub, NYC > >grrrrr. joe's pub is a okay place but is generally full of annoying people >(and not just because it's associated with the public theater). this could >be a tough show to get into as the room is relatively small and all tables >and booths. there is a bar in back but, unless they clear the tables out >front, there's little standing room. > > Joe's Pub is a GREAT place to see shows, ya nut! And it's great for the reasons you think it's NOT great; it's all tables and booths, and actually has a pretty nice decor. It's definitely the most high-brow place I've ever seen Robyn performing in. If we get a "dinner reservation" (and actually order food), we can most likely sit at a table right up in front of the stage. Also, they have great martinis (paging Dr. Clark), which is usually a glaring omission at most Robyn shows, IMHO (unless you don't mind lukewarm Gordon's in a nice romantic plastic cup). And really, call me old and cranky, but thank GOD we get to sit down like decent human beings for a change instead of being crushed against the stage by a million smelly hippies (paging Dr. Quail). So who's with us?? We can't go on the 17th (opera season is upon us, after all), but we will surely be there on the 19th. lj - -- ******************************** LJ Lindhurst White Rabbit Graphic Design http://www.w-rabbit.com NYC ljl@w-rabbit.com ******************************** Adieu, adieu, to you and you and you. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 17:32:15 -0400 (EDT) From: Rob Gronotte Subject: Re: East Coast dates Is Robyn Headlining these shows, or Grant Lee Phillips? Rob Why don't you come up and surf me sometime? --> http://www.patriot.net/users/rob ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 16:12:49 -0700 From: "Randy R." Subject: Re: Rushuurgghh... This is the geddy_lee newsletter. For information on how to stop receiving this newsletter, see the end of this email. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - -- FIRST-EVER SOLO ALBUM FROM RUSH'S VOCALIST/BASSIST Anthem/Atlantic Records has announced the upcoming release of the debut solo album from Geddy Lee, the voice and bassist of the legendary power trio, Rush. The highly-anticipated collection - dubbed "MY FAVORITE HEADACHE" - is due in stores on November 14th. Following more than a quarter-century of success with Rush - including 22 albums, all certified RIAA gold-or-better, with cumulative worldwide sales of over 35 million - "MY FAVORITE HEADACHE" finds Lee joined in the studio by guitarist/multi-instrumentalist Ben Mink and drummer Matt Cameron (Pearl Jam, Soundgarden). The album's 11 diverse new Lee compositions were co-written with Mink (best known for his collaborations with k.d. lang). This landmark recording sees Lee taking on a number of instruments - along with his bass and vocal duties - including piano, guitar, percussion, and various programming elements. Recorded in Seattle, Vancouver, and Toronto, the album was produced by Lee, Mink, and renowned studio whiz David Leonard (Santana, Barenaked Ladies, Prince), and also features drummer Jeremy Taggart (Our Lady Peace) on one track. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 16:34:34 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: Rushuurgghh... >This is the geddy_lee newsletter. >For information on how to stop receiving >this newsletter, see the end of this email. Woe is me -- the end must've been cut off my copy. >dubbed "MY FAVORITE HEADACHE" Whew...talk about begging for it. Eb PS I think I may skip tonight's Amy Correia show. Blah. I'm already seeing Elastica on Thursday...I dunno, getting a bit burnt out on the unpredecented flurry of concerts, this month. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 20:23:00 -0600 From: hbrandt Subject: Re: Rushuurgghh... > Blah. I dunno, getting a bit burnt out It's an inevitability in the pop-culture weenie world! /hal, spending less and less time with music, movies and TV and more time in Rocky Mountain National Park (the aspens are amazing right now..!) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 20:14:57 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: revenge for daring to mention Jerry Garcia in a post Hal waxed recidivistic: >> Blah. I dunno, getting a bit burnt out > >It's an inevitability in the pop-culture weenie world! No, it's an inevitability in the not-enough-sleep-lately-and-25-mile-drive-to-Hollywood world. In any case, I've changed my mind and am making the trip anyway. Oh, and in the whatta-difference-two-weeks-make category, *this* Amy Correia show is a sell-out. Aha. And I bet it's in the larger upstairs room this time, instead of the three-times-smaller room downstairs. Eb, using way-too-many hyphens ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 23:57:02 -0400 From: overbury@cn.ca Subject: Olias of Sunhillow, Eb's CD player Eb, I can't imagine how you could have read that stuff and wondered what I meant. For you and the rest of the fegs, here's an excerpt, starting from the beginning, because it's as bad as, though no worse than, the rest of it. All spelling, punctuation, grammatical and syntactical errors are almost certainly Jon's, because I proofread this abomination twice before sending it. "Through the mist of a million years of high energy three riders skimmed the surface of the plain of Tallowcross and raced towards a dream. Their meeting point lying between the glades and Gardens of Geda and the high mountain masses, where fountains of light and colour and soft winds of passion, openly existing through wisdom, surrounded the three that silent eve, they sang together through motions only ways, as all around them sparkled and chorused in wonder. OLIAS was to build the ship the Moorglade Mover RANYART was to guide the moments begotten light QOQUAC a leader, a fashioner of peoples of Sunhillow Four tribes lived on Sunhillow and existed through music, rhythms and tempos, each of the tribes attained a light of their own through their songs to their stars, so their energy, their souls, their time, their movements were all accordant to the stars NAGRUNIUM deep dark skinned stretched beat ASATRANIUS jangled lines of monatone ORACTANIOM cascading ready light metal NORDRANIOUS weavers of body sound The dance of Ranyart would start the call: with beams of alternity directed to the skies. Bending the staff of motions begotten light,he moved with grace within him and charged the air to part and carry him towards the course of passion." Pee-yew! Same 'ol' catchphrases, still no coherence. I cut Jon some slack and added spaces after periods and commas, because the apparent lack thereof may have been due to typesetting. After reading this and more, I'd decided I'd Jon had been bluffing all along. I was 20 when this came out, and before that time he'd had me believing I was too dense to understand him. The above represents about a fifth of the pain Jon would inflict on you all. If you want more, you'll have to beg me. Eb, I put this at the bottom so I'll know if you suffered along with the rest of us: I said you done the right thing when you bought your CD player because you said you paid more attention to DAC and a decent transport than to frills. - -- Ross Overbury Montreal, Quebec, Canada ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 00:03:40 -0600 From: hbrandt Subject: Re: revenge for daring to mention Jerry Garcia in a post LA Eric wrote: > > Hal waxed recidivistic What'd I do to piss you off this time, ba-a-a-a-a-by? Recidivism? No, that's you, Eric...always ready to pounce each time I respond to anything you happen to write. Yet, if no one responds to your serialized life-novelization (i.e. your riveting call to jury duty or Spinal Tap/Bangles soirees), you whine that your lengthy posts have "fallen on deaf ears". You can't have it both ways. So, I must assume it's a personal bias you have against me. Which would be fine if you were on target in your satire of my personality (you're not really even close). For instance, if I was such a Jerry Garcia worshipper (I like the Dead, but not in an obsessive compulsive Eb pop-culture weenie way), would I post this link? http://www.chickenhead.com/features/jerry/index2.html C'mon, Eb, give it a rest, eh? Laughingly, /hal ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 00:14:11 -0600 From: hbrandt Subject: Re: Olias of Sunhillow Wasn't Olias supposedly a concept album about the Roger Dean drawn "ship"? I don't think Jon was joking in the liner notes. I think his pretentiousness was quite sincere. Just listen to Tales From Topographic Oceans. /hal, who does like a lot of Yes music ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 01:15:56 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: tape trees and comic books Hal riveted: >What'd I do to piss you off this time, ba-a-a-a-a-by? Recidivism? No, >that's you, Eric...always ready to pounce each time I respond to >anything you happen to write. Yet, if no one responds to your serialized >life-novelization (i.e. your riveting call to jury duty or Spinal >Tap/Bangles soirees), you whine that your lengthy posts have "fallen on >deaf ears". You can't have it both ways. So, I must assume it's a >personal bias you have against me. Which would be fine if you were on >target in your satire of my personality (you're not really even close). >For instance, if I was such a Jerry Garcia worshipper (I like the Dead, >but not in an obsessive compulsive Eb pop-culture weenie way), would I >post this link? > >http://www.chickenhead.com/features/jerry/index2.html > >C'mon, Eb, give it a rest, eh? So, I post one emotionally flat sentence in response (which was scarcely even hostile), and it sends Hal into another sniveling tizzy. Par for the course, I suppose. "Ba-a-a-a-a-by"? Good lord. Hal, you're an "obsessive-compulsive weenie" about the Dead, by any definition. And needless to say, the Grateful Dead is an absolutely *stellar* example of a "pop culture" phenomenon. So, drop your aristocratic pretensions, already. Ebby ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 10:40:22 +0100 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: [ebmaniax-l] Songs From the Eb (Three Different Ones) overbury@cn.ca wrote: > > The juror said: > > >What I'm NOT keeping: Jon Anderson/Olias of Sunhillow > > Before you dump it, be sure to check the story on the jacket. It's a must! Olias of Sunhillow is one of the great comedy albums of all time! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 02:50:26 -0700 From: Eb Subject: AC I won't say much about the Amy Correia concert tonight, since it was essentially redundant and I was going more for social than musical reasons. Just a few quick notes: 1. It was in the lower room of Lunapark after all, which means the "sell-out" really constituted only about 100 people. Funny thing: At the club's front desk, there was a stack of four-inch flyers saying something to the effect of "DUE TO CAPITOL'S MASSIVE PUBLICITY CAMPAIGN, SOME PEOPLE WILL BE UNABLE TO ATTEND TONIGHT'S SHOW. WE APOLOGIZE FOR THIS INCONVENIENCE." It's silly enough that they couldn't simply say "THIS SHOW IS SOLD OUT," but furthermore, why would they make a *stack* of these flyers? What, like everyone would want to take his own copy of this bulletin? :) 2. Amy played two tunes which I hadn't heard her perform yet: "Gin" (off the new album) and a spontaneous,crowd-provoked cover of "Rhinestone Cowboy," a song she was known to perform in the distant past. She moaned that she didn't remember all the chord changes. I said something like "Come on, there's only about four chords!" and she said "Yeah?" and half-jokingly asked if anyone in the audience wanted to come up and play the guitar part. You know, if I wasn't so instinctively shy, I really believe I could've faked my way through it. I'll be bemoaning that missed opportunity for awhile, I suppose. Oh, and just *imagine* the bootleg sales.... 3. There was definitely a perceptible raise in "fandom" from the show two weeks ago, prior to the album's official release. After the concert, she must've signed 25 different CDs for various adoring fans. I just hope she doesn't get too tightly embraced by Saps Who Call Out "We Love You, Amy!!" I did hear one tonight, and I already have enough excruciating memories of Saps Who Call Out "We Love You, Tori!!" and Saps Who Call Out "We Love You, Sarah!!".... 4. Here's the *big* news. Amy's dates opening for Emmylou Harris have fallen through (but not the dates with John Hiatt). However, guess whom she may be opening for in New York? ROBYN HITCHCOCK!!!!!! As you might guess, this prospect amuses me *endlessly*. If it does happen, I'll expect detailed reviews from LJ, Quail, etc. :) (PS According to the Capitol site, she has already booked an October 20th show in New York...according to Hitchcock's site, he has booked New York shows for October 17th and 19th...hmmmmm.) 5. A Capitol friend of mine informed me that Courtney of the Dandy Warhols absolutely *loves* the Amy Correia album, and was drooling all over her when they met. Ha. This illustrates once again that not only can good artists have crummy tastes, but crummy artists can have *good* tastes. ;) Speaking of which, the woman who used to lead Ednaswap (and wrote Natalie Imbruglia's hit "Torn") was in the house tonight.... 6. Small, cautionary note: I've become a bit worried about Amy's apparent lack of repertoire. Since she's debuting on record at the advanced age of 31 (well, actually, the album came out directly on her 32nd birthday!), you'd think she would have a substantial backlog of songs amassed from earlier years of performing. I'm getting a feeling this isn't the case, a feeling intensified by FegElizabeth's comments about past Largo appearances. I may love Amy's current album, but I'm not yet confident about her prospects for longevity as a songwriter. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 04:08:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: reap (sorta) not a good month for famous lesbian couples..... from rolling stone MELISSA ETHERIDGE SPLITS WITH PARTNER Seven months after MELISSA ETHERIDGE told Rolling Stone that DAVID CROSBY was the biological father of the two children she shares with partner JULIE CYPHER, the couple has announced the end of their twelve-year relationship. "As committed parents, our top priority continues to be what is in the best interest of our children," Etheridge and Cypher said in a statement. "Though elements of our lives will change, our family will always remain intact." ===== "[I]t's important for the maintenance of consensus that some people keep on being scared of what might happen and probably won't; otherwise, they would not be such easy prey for what can happen and actually has. There is even a name for this tactic -- it's called 'triangulation' -- and eight years of it have been much more than enough." -- Christopher Hichens in Mother Jones, Sep/Oct 2000 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 09:10:27 -0400 From: overbury@cn.ca Subject: Re: Olias of Sunhillow On 20 Sep 00, at 0:14, hbrandt wrote: > Wasn't Olias supposedly a concept album about the Roger Dean drawn > "ship"? I don't think Jon was joking in the liner notes. I think his > pretentiousness was quite sincere. Just listen to Tales From > Topographic Oceans. I agree; that's why I said "bluffing", not "joking". > > /hal, who does like a lot of Yes music Me too. As a matter of fact, I saw them about a year ago, and enjoyed the show quite a bit. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 15:07:21 BST From: "matt sewell" Subject: Couldn't give a toss if it's off topic... Just a quick question, something that's been bothering me for a while... do excuse me for being so off topic. In the UK, we say "I couldn't care less" when we're not interested - the statement shows that one is already at the point of caring so little, he couldn't care any less about it. Makes sense to me. However, it seems that in the US, the phrase is "I could care less", implying to me, that there is some care towards the subject... if one could care less, then they care more than not caring at all. Am I making sense? Can anyone explain why this difference exists? Sorry for the fairly random post! Cheers Matt _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 10:39:55 -0400 From: overbury@cn.ca Subject: Re: Couldn't give a toss if it's off topic... "Could care less", "couldn't care less" -- same difference! On 20 Sep 00, at 15:07, matt sewell wrote: > Just a quick question, something that's been bothering me for a > while... do excuse me for being so off topic. > > In the UK, we say "I couldn't care less" when we're not interested - > the statement shows that one is already at the point of caring so > little, he couldn't care any less about it. Makes sense to me. > However, it seems that in the US, the phrase is "I could care less", > implying to me, that there is some care towards the subject... if one > could care less, then they care more than not caring at all. > > Am I making sense? Can anyone explain why this difference exists? > > Sorry for the fairly random post! > Cheers > > Matt > ______________________________________________________________________ > ___ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at > http://www.hotmail.com. > > Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > http://profiles.msn.com. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 10:50:49 -0400 From: Stephen Buckalew Subject: Re: Rushuurgghh... I'm there.... 'cept my circle carts along our old-fashioned wooden instruments into the woods, so we get to have some forest and some music too... Steve At 08:23 PM 9/19/00 -0600, you wrote: >> Blah. I dunno, getting a bit burnt out > >It's an inevitability in the pop-culture weenie world! > >/hal, spending less and less time with music, movies and TV and more >time in Rocky Mountain National Park (the aspens are amazing right >now..!) > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 09:38:07 -0600 From: hbrandt Subject: Re: Rushuurgghh... Stephen Buckalew wrote: > my circle carts along our old-fashioned wooden instruments into the > woods, so we get to have some forest and some music too... Yes! I've had magical moments in the woods participating in drum circles around a bonfire. Ahhhh... /hal ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 16:49:17 +0100 (BST) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: Couldn't give a toss if it's off topic... During my recent hols round the Black Sea and the Aegean, I thought I would take some appropriate reading matter, so I bought James Davidson's 'Courtesans and Fishcakes', which is the best book on conspicuous consumption in Ancient Greece that I have read (indeed, the only ....). Anyhow, apart from fish and sex, the other thing that the A.G.s liked to spend money on was gambling, and their favourite betting game (I'm serious, it's in the book) was called: QUAIL-TAPPING You gather a crowd of like-minded gamblers together. You obtain a quail. You draw a circle. You put the quail in the centre. And everybody bets for or against the quail. THEN You tap the quail sharply on the head (DOYNG!) If it stays inside the circle, the pro-quail gamblers win; if it backs off and runs away, the anti-quail bets are paid out! Of course, they didn't have the RSPCA in Ancient Greece ... - - Mike Godwin PS I know you don't believe it but, it's true! here's the ISBN: Paperback - 300 pages ( 1 June, 1998); Fontana Press; ISBN: 0006863434 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 12:22:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Christopher Gross Subject: Re: Couldn't give a toss if it's off topic... On Wed, 20 Sep 2000, Michael R Godwin wrote: > Anyhow, apart from fish and sex, the other thing that the A.G.s liked to > spend money on was gambling, and their favourite betting game (I'm > serious, it's in the book) was called: > > QUAIL-TAPPING Ye gods, it IS true! I just checked. James Davidson, _Courtesans and Fishcakes_, p.185 of the hardcover edition. Those zany Greeks! - --Chris "Don't worry about the noise, dear. It's 5:45 am on a national holiday, I'm sure everyone in the building is awake by now." --my next-door neighbors, 4 Sept. 2000 ______________________________________________________________________ Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 12:27:56 -0400 From: Stephen Buckalew Subject: Re: Rushuurgghh... Never did participate in a drum circle, although I did just buy my girlfriend a bodhran for her birthday. She's a stand-up bass player, not fun to haul into the woods....the bodhran will be better for that. We play mostly "old-time".....which is still very rhythmically based (a simplistic description would be the merging of European folk melodies with African rhythms). So we could probably fit into your drum circle without disrupting things too much. Fiddlin' Steve At 09:38 AM 9/20/00 -0600, you wrote: >Stephen Buckalew wrote: > >> my circle carts along our old-fashioned wooden instruments into the >> woods, so we get to have some forest and some music too... > >Yes! I've had magical moments in the woods participating in drum circles >around a bonfire. Ahhhh... > >/hal > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 13:08:33 -0400 (EDT) From: Terrence Marks Subject: shirts How much does Robyn charge for shirts? How much did you pay for the last three band/concert-related t-shirts you bought? What's the most you've paid for one? (Yeah. Working on Unlike Minerva shirts and trying to determine a good price point. So far, I'm thinking of $16, on the justification that someone who'll pay $12 will probably shell out another $4) Terrence Marks Unlike Minerva (a comic strip) http://www.unlikeminerva.com HCF (another comic strip) http://www.mpog.com/hcf normal@grove.ufl.edu ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 12:11:15 -0600 From: hbrandt Subject: not these two again eb back-pedaled: > So, I post one emotionally flat sentence in response (which was scarcely > even hostile) When it comes to me, you're teeming with hostility, Eb. It's not at all scarce. For the record, I purposely did not quote or mention your name in my original post. I simply responded to something you said publicly, trying to leave your name out of it, anticipating (and attempting to circumvent) one of your infamous tirades toward me; obviously resulting in an utter failure on my part to do so. > "Ba-a-a-a-a-by"? Good lord. That's some old Blues Brothers song (I know...they didn't write it. I think it was called "Flip, Flop and Fly".) Good lord, I figured you would've heard that one. > > Hal, you're an "obsessive-compulsive weenie" about the Dead, by any > definition. To borrow your own phrase...How so? Funny, I've never even met you. Why do you feel qualified to make this assumption? > And needless to say, the Grateful Dead is an absolutely > *stellar* example of a "pop culture" phenomenon. Sounds like you're the one obsessed with that aspect of the Dead. I just like some of the music and think they were good live (and sometimes great and sometimes lousy). You got me on comic books, though..! > So, drop your aristocratic > pretensions, already. Eric, perhaps our "differences" are insurmountable, as I'm sure those who read these diatribes may attest. As for me, as long as you can accept that the ego-driven intimidation techniques you call "writing" (I call it "typing") can't silence me, and that your long-winded lifestyle posts to the list don't make me want to join your cult of personality, there's no reason we can't both co-exist here. And, if we ever meet somewhere, I'll buy the first round. Or, better yet, I'll guide you into the mountains and help to clear the pop/rock cobwebs outta yer head. Whaddya say? In the meantime, learn to laugh at yourself a little. Peace, fer chrissakes! ;) /hal ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 11:31:27 -0700 (PDT) From: rich plumb Subject: re: east coast dates dick cheney wrote: >October 15 & 16: The Iota Club, Alexandria, VA > >as eddie pointed out, this is in arlington...but y'all knew that. they >don't seem to have a website, but there are listings and information at: > >. actually they do have a fairly primitive under construction website anyways very exciting news. I will actually be able to see one of these DC area shows. rich __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 11:37:31 -0700 (PDT) From: rich plumb Subject: re: east coast dates speaking of the iota club dates. I just called the club and was told the actual dates are October 29 (definite) and October 30 (tentative). rich ===== Rich reply to either: rplumb@cais.com or billytell@yahoo.com webpage: http://www.dc.net/rplumb/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 14:43:53 -0400 (EDT) From: dmw Subject: just for the record i generally enjoy Eb's OT concert/rock'n'roll schmooze reports, even when i don't say so onlist. i thought the Spinal Tap piece, in particular, was interesting enough to forward to several of the more Tap-obsessed of my firends (who i'll call Leech Breath, and Smog Nose, and...) i find 'em pleasantly irreverant and playful...too much rock journalism takes itself too damn seriously. so, not that anyone's putting it up for vote or anything, but they're not necessarily falling on deaf ears just because no one comments. on the other hand, when there's a half-dozen posts or more of people sniping at each other personally, i do start to wonder why the sniping has to be in public. - -- d. np reign of frogs _a case of mistaken serenity_ - - oh no, you've just read mail from doug = dmw@radix.net - get yr pathos - - www.pathetic-caverns.com -- books, flicks, tunes, etc. = reviews - - www.fecklessbeast.com -- angst, guilt, fear, betrayal! = guitar pop ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 12:02:30 -0700 From: Eb Subject: news, on a recurrent discussion topic The 16 finalists on this year's Rock & Roll Hall of Fame ballots: Michael Jackson, Paul Simon, AC/DC, Patti Smith (the only newly eligible artist to appear, which figures...who *else* worthwhile debuted in 1975?), Bob Seger, the New York Dolls, Aerosmith, Queen, Black Sabbath, Solomon Burke, the Flamingos, Brenda Lee, Lynyrd Skynyrd, Lou Reed, Steely Dan and Richie Valens. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 12:22:38 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: not these two again H-- again milked the only issue which makes people notice him: >For the record, I purposely did not quote or mention your name >in my original post. I simply responded to something you said publicly, >trying to leave your name out of it, anticipating (and attempting to >circumvent) one of your infamous tirades toward me; obviously resulting >in an utter failure on my part to do so. You are *nuts*. You directly respond to something I've written, call me (yet again...get some new material) a "pop culture weenie," and you don't think that's confrontative/argumentative only because you didn't explicitly use my *name*? And then you act surprised that I perceived your insult in a negative light? Who are you kidding? However, in deference to you, I'm leaving your name out of this post. Maybe I'll "circumvent one of your infamous tirades," this way. Meanwhile, I write *one sentence* in direct reply to you, and you label that a "tirade"? >> H--, you're an "obsessive-compulsive weenie" about the Dead, by any >> definition. > >To borrow your own phrase...How so? Funny, I've never even met you. Why >do you feel qualified to make this assumption? Well, for starters, take your solemn, ritual observance of the anniversary of Garcia's death a few weeks ago. Add to that your heavenknowshowbig concert-tape collection (which requires far more effort to amass than just a quick trip to the local record store), your ability to easily toss out specific Dead show dates and compare/contrast them, the unceasing years-long grudge you bear against me for daring to forcefully point out why I can't stand the group's music, the general soul-of-an-accountant nature of your trainspotting Fegposts.... And you've never met me, either. So wherefore all your own assumptions about me? >> And needless to say, the Grateful Dead is an absolutely >> *stellar* example of a "pop culture" phenomenon. > >Sounds like you're the one obsessed with that aspect of the Dead. I just >like some of the music and think they were good live (and sometimes >great and sometimes lousy). You're soft-pedalling, big time. And whether you choose to acknowledge it or not, the Grateful Dead is absolutely a part of your much-abhorred "pop culture." And so is David Lynch. And so is.... >As for me, as long as you can >accept that the ego-driven intimidation techniques you call "writing" (I >call it "typing") can't silence me Your ongoing dismissals of my writing don't bother me a bit, as you might imagine. Since I get loads of positive feedback from others (both personally and professionally), and since you've never offered any of your own "typing" which is remotely entertaining or thought-provoking, I'm pretty blasé about your (again recurrent...get some new material) sneers about my abilities. >Whaddya say? In the meantime, learn to laugh at yourself a little. I laugh at myself *plenty*. There's no doubt that I take more ribbing than anyone else on this list (maybe more than the rest of the list *combined*), and I take most of it with grace. For instance, I didn't even respond to Natalie's recent satire of my "concert reviews," and the tone of that post wasn't even particularly friendly. Eb ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V9 #261 *******************************