From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V9 #200 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Thursday, July 20 2000 Volume 09 : Number 200 Today's Subjects: ----------------- another clarification [Christopher Gross ] From today's Willamette Week (Portland OR paper) [John Barrington-Jones <] Re: Stone the quails [Eb ] Re: from Portland's own Willamette Week... [Vivien Lyon ] Stone the quails or everybody must get ... ["Asa Land" ] Here's one for the British Fegs! [The Great Quail ] Re: Stone the quails [Eb ] something to Crowe about? [digja611@student.otago.ac.nz] Sending out tapes? ["Ben" ] Robyn mention in TNR online article [steve ] Re: Stone the quails ["Randy R." ] Re: Stone the quails [Eb ] Re: and now, we're talking about... ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Brits Strike Back In A Star Fucking Stylee ["jbranscombe@compuserve.com" ] Re: Stone the quails [Jeff Dwarf ] Re: Eb all over the depraved Sunset Strip [Michael R Godwin ] Re: something to Crowe about? [Eleanore Adams ] Re: something to Crowe about? [steve ] Re: Stone the quails [hbrandt ] uk fegs: Apples In Stereo ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Stone the Sharon [Glen Uber ] Re: Stone the quails ["Paul Christian Glenn" ] From this week's Rocket (Portland-Seattle rag) [John Barrington-Jones Subject: another clarification On Wed, 19 Jul 2000 DDerosa5@aol.com wrote: > > I guess Hollywood figures a true American patriot fights for > > blood revenge, not representative government or national self > > determination, let alone anything as wimpy as freedom. > > by this I assume you mean "freedom from taxes"--what could be more American > than that? Pynchon handles this very well in Mason & Dixon by the way. Blood > isn't thicker than money... No, that's not what I meant. And please remember, I was commenting on the movie, not on the real historical American Revolution. My point is that if Hollywood is going to make a biased, inaccurate movie about the Revolution, why couldn't they at least gave the hero more noble motivations than personal revenge? - --right-wing flag-waving rah-rah American patriot Chris ______________________________________________________________________ Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 13:08:53 -0700 (PDT) From: John Barrington-Jones Subject: From today's Willamette Week (Portland OR paper) Robyn Hitchcock Tribute Night / Cone Exhibition A packet of locals kneel beneath the graven image of He Who Cannot Be Fathomed, the hyperquizzical popnaut who began his career as a strange young punk before scaling heights of absurdity. Fine Portland singer/strummers like Colin Meloy, Ezra Holbrook, and Jen Bernard will supplement Robyn's writings. And check this out: The evening includes an exhibition of the Northwest's largest collection of Hitchcock's "cones," orange construction pylons Hitchcock decorates with bizarre images of vegetables, seafood and globes and passes out after shows. Weird, yet cool - --just as intended. Mad Hatter Lounge, 203 SE Grand Ave., 231-2925. 9:30pm Saturday July 22. No cover. =jbj= __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail – Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 13:35:55 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: Stone the quails JL: >Come on-- Oliver Stone may be a pompous ass, but he is definitely an >artist worth reckoning with. I mean, hell, even if you don't like >him, you have to give him the fact that he's at least *trying* to >make something more than your average Hollywood formula film. And that's why he's so loathesome: his pretensions of Artistic Importance (hence, he's much more irritating than Hollywood craftsmen-for-hire like Joel Schumacher and Michael Bay). Not to mention Stone's ridiculously heavy-handed, showoff choices in directing. I think the moment which truly pushed me over into utter hatred for Stone was seeing "Talk Radio." In the penultimate scene, Bogosian's character goes into this long, rambling, manic monologue on the radio, about this or that. It should've been a climactic, emotional lynchpin of the film. And instead, Shithead totally ruined the scene with his idiotic direction. He shot the entire scene with the camera slowly revolving around Bogosian. As a result, your attention strays from Bogosian's tirade (what matters), and you just start watching the wall spin behind him and perceiving the sensation of "the ride" (what doesn't matter). If that scene had been a steady, tight close-up, it might've been powerfully intense. As is, it was a friggin' carnival attraction. *Stupid*. And I haven't even mentioned his oppressive use of film scores, yet.... >And furthermore, I love this idea that he is presenting "mythological >re-tellings." Or "overwrought, self-serving bullshit," depending on your spin.... Eb, ever puzzled at this list's ongoing fascination with comic strips, while doubting he will *ever* bother to see "The Patriot" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 13:40:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Vivien Lyon Subject: Re: from Portland's own Willamette Week... - --- "J. Brown" wrote: > By the way, does Willamette Week still suck? I used to read > it > occasionally when i was working at the mail room in Suzallo > Library. Have > the new weeklies that the Seattle Weekly and Stranger people > are planning > for Portland launched yet? if yes how are they? I don't know if it's as bad as it was when you were here, but it's morbidly unhip and badly written. Contrariwise, the Mercury (which is our version of the Stranger) is juvenile, self-conscious, and irrelevant, but not entirely without merit. It's too much a copy of the Stranger for my tastes, though. I'm tired of Portland getting Seattle's hand-me-downs. It sucks. Vivien and the same thing goes for Christmas. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail – Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 14:39:52 -0700 From: "Randy R." Subject: Re: Stone the quails From: Eb > And that's why he's so loathesome: his pretensions of Artistic Importance > (hence, he's much more irritating than Hollywood craftsmen-for-hire like > Joel Schumacher and Michael Bay). Not to mention Stone's ridiculously > heavy-handed, showoff choices in directing. I think the moment which truly > pushed me over into utter hatred for Stone was seeing "Talk Radio." In the > penultimate scene, Bogosian's character goes into this long, rambling, > manic monologue on the radio, about this or that. It should've been a > climactic, emotional lynchpin of the film. And instead, Shithead totally > ruined the scene with his idiotic direction. He shot the entire scene with > the camera slowly revolving around Bogosian. As a result, your attention > strays from Bogosian's tirade (what matters), and you just start watching > the wall spin behind him and perceiving the sensation of "the ride" (what > doesn't matter). If that scene had been a steady, tight close-up, it > might've been powerfully intense. As is, it was a friggin' carnival > attraction. *Stupid*. And I haven't even mentioned his oppressive use of > film scores, yet.. The Film Score for "Natural Born Killers" was blistering. Especially during the Prison riot or most of all, the opening scene. Jesus Eb, I'll have to take you to task on this one. Did you really want a close up on his mug, unwavering? The camera moved ever so slowly across the room, showing the intensity, what might happen should he decide to let it all go up in smoke. Gripping. And how about Oliver Stones use of Keith Richards in the opening scene of Platoon? Damn cool. He wanted a guy who looked like death, and he got it, and gave Charlie Sheen a thousand yard stare. Oh, and I must clarify myself on a point or two. Indians love to tell stories, and that previous comment about Oliver Stone attempted to make fun of ourselves. Indians do have a sense of humor dammit, John Wayne be dammed. I make more fun of myself than anyone ever could. It's a defense, and a hell of a lot of fun too ; ) Oliver Stone is probably 1/8th Indian anyways, and he probably doesn't even know how to play Bingo. Vince ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 17:41:06 EDT From: "Asa Land" Subject: Stone the quails or everybody must get ... I love hearing my juniors, who really should know better, disparage the life of glorious hedonism(oh yeah, and the madness, and the addictions, but hey, why quibble with a good time) that was the early 70s(pre 74). Sex without disease or censure. Any kind of sex without disease or censure. Drugs without any real sense of consequence. The delusion that we could actually change what it means to be human. The rapture of an open-ended future. There have only been a few such crazed moments in history like it. Wadsworth during the French Revolution wrote "It was a joy to be alive and very heaven to be young"(or something close.) Of course Stone cant get over it. Inside, buried in most of our shrunken up little hearts, most of us who were there cant either. We're just not as in your face about it as Stone. We all know we fucked up. We had a chance, and we let ourselves be derailed. I think Stone's at his best when he's dealing with that theme. Because, yes, he mythologizes it. And the best movies are where a tad of the numinous interpenetrates the actual to give meaning. LordK ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 15:01:59 -0700 (PDT) From: "Andrew D. Simchik" Subject: Re: at the movies - --- Capuchin wrote: > On Wed, 19 Jul 2000, Andrew D. Simchik wrote: > > >From what I've seen Cyclops is more my type. > > Who was it that said "Cyclops is as gay as we all knew he was"? I read > that in a review somewhere. Now I definitely must see it. > This is an important point. The black latex is certainly tired, but you > can't make yellow leotards do what they're supposed to do. The closest > thing to the comic would be just painting the bodies of the actors and > applying a little liquid latex where... um... things bump out and then > adding bikini briefs. This would be very difficult to do correctly. I don't understand. Why couldn't the latex simply be painted yellow and blue? Why couldn't Storm wear robes? Just because it's sleek body armor doesn't mean it has to be basic black. Granted, there's no good rationale for the yellow and blue, but I'm willing to suspend disbelief on that score. I wasn't suggesting that they all run around in tights or body paint. > However, you also see shit like Warren Beatty's Dick Tracy and the like > where real people are running around cardboard sets. I can't recall an > instance where this was done well and to good effect. The people always > look out of place and the whole thing comes off as a gag. I kind of liked that about _Dick Tracy_. It was a distinctive look and I thought it fit. > The worst of the sort is probably the type where everything's a joke > about the origin of the story. The last two Batman films are right up > there (however, the line "no, they're probably halfway to metropolis by > now" was a nice subtle touch). The first two Batman films were deeply flawed but definitely in the right spirit. The last two were crushingly, jaw-droppingly awful for so many reasons, including this one. > Yeah, let me know what you think (sheesh, do I really have to say that > to Drew Simchik?). Well! I never! Fine, young man, if that's how it's going to be, you watch me sit on my hands for the rest of the week. Maybe I'll just unsubscribe and do you all a favor! Drew ===== Andrew D. Simchik: drew at stormgreen dot com http://www.stormgreen.com/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail – Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 18:25:27 -0400 From: The Great Quail Subject: Here's one for the British Fegs! http://zeta.broonale.co.uk/finland/slang.html I've been having fun with that all day.... - --Quail PS: Yes, Dave, it is because I am reading Mason & Dixon! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 17:14:18 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: Stone the quails >>And I haven't even mentioned his oppressive use of >> film scores, yet.. > >The Film Score for "Natural Born Killers" was blistering. Especially during >the Prison riot or most of all, the opening scene. OK, so you agree with me. >The camera moved ever so slowly across the >room, showing the intensity, what might happen should he decide to let it >all go up in smoke. Gripping. That comment scarcely even made sense. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 13:22:16 +1200 (NZST) From: digja611@student.otago.ac.nz Subject: something to Crowe about? >Of course, the main appeal for me >was the guy who played Wolverine, who is *extremely* sexy. He's Australian, >and the equally hot Russell Crowe is a Kiwi; James or Dlang, is it something >in the water down there?? > >n. (moving to New Zealand ASAP) Russell's regarded as fairly plain by NZ standards - of course NZ'sother main film personality, is just plain plug-ugly for a kiwi ;) >I believe Russell Crowe is 100% aussie! born and bred in NZ, although moving to Aussie when he was a nipper. Two of his cousins both captained the NZ cricket team (Mqartin Crowe is regarded as one of our greatest ever players). >> ya zhivu v' 50 Norfolk Street And I reply. . . . . . . . . . > >Ya know, you really don't need that apostrophe after "v" there, assuming >you're writing in modern Russian. I couldn't resist pointing that out. hmm.You're right. Well spotted that man. James James Dignan___________________________________ You talk to me Deptmt of Psychology, Otago University As if from a distance ya zhivu v 50 Norfolk Street And I reply. . . . . . . . . . Dunedin, New Zealand with impressions chosen from another time steam megaphone (03) 455-7807 (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 21:15:30 -0400 From: "Ben" Subject: Sending out tapes? I saw this message on the museum of RH website: To clear up any misunderstaindings, Robyn Hitchcock is not represented in any way by World of Lobster, who were simply hired to manage Robyn's 1999 U.S. tour. Live audience tapes from this or subsequent tours should be sent to The Museum of Robyn Hitchcock (P.O.Box 133, Greenwich, NY 12834), not to the World of Lobster, whose vaults are groaning already. Many thanks, The Curator What does this mean? Are they collecting tapes for some project? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 23:12:51 -0500 From: steve Subject: Robyn mention in TNR online article For what it's worth, there's a Robyn mention in this article about the dangers of net radio: http://www.thenewrepublic.com/online/goldberg071000.html - - Steve __________ Well, Jesus ain't no astronaut And Buddah, he's no fool Cathedral bells don't ring in hell 'cos cats down there don't think that's cool. - Bill Nelson ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 22:31:50 -0700 From: "Randy R." Subject: Re: Stone the quails From: Eb > >The camera moved ever so slowly across the > >room, showing the intensity, what might happen should he decide to let it > >all go up in smoke. Gripping. > > That comment scarcely even made sense. Watch it again, dumbass. The package was supposedly a bomb, and the talking figure slowly, and slowly made sense of that. It's while Ollie Stone slow motioned the camera around the room. Get in now? Stick to things that you know about Eb. We luv ya (I hate pompous asses) Vince ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 23:25:17 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: Stone the quails >> >The camera moved ever so slowly across the >> >room, showing the intensity, what might happen should he decide to let it >> >all go up in smoke. Gripping. >> >> That comment scarcely even made sense. > >Watch it again, dumbass. The package was supposedly a bomb, and the talking >figure slowly, and slowly made sense of that. It's while Ollie Stone slow >motioned the camera around the room. Get in now? Get in where? You have said nothing to convince me it wasn't a badly directed scene. Sorry. Why is an endlessly revolving camera necessary to show a character's inner thoughts? Please explain. >Stick to things that you know about Eb. You haven't exactly won much credibility for your own views around here, bubba. (Except in the field of animal-slaughtering, that is.) Eb, who finds it really annoying when people send posts simultaneously to the list *and* to the private respondee ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 08:42:17 +0100 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: and now, we're talking about... Michael R Godwin wrote: > > In all > of these books, Sir William Wallace was portrayed as a crusader type > knight in armour, chivalrous and well-born. I guess that this was less of > a distortion than showing Wallace as a 3rd-century Pict, but who knows? Current Scottish historical thinking likens Wallace, Bruce, Comyn et al to the likes of Al Capone and his ilk. They were basically gangsters, controlling territory to get income from land rents, trade taxes, etc. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 02:25:20 -0700 From: "Randy R." Subject: Re: Stone the quails Eb and Vince square off again, and it's not about Rush..... > >Watch it again, dumbass. The package was supposedly a bomb, and the talking > >figure slowly, and slowly made sense of that. It's while Ollie Stone slow > >motioned the camera around the room. Get in now? > > Get in where? Yeah, sorry. typo. The affect would've been better had I not missed the correct key. > > You have said nothing to convince me it wasn't a badly directed scene. > Sorry. Why is an endlessly revolving camera necessary to show a character's > inner thoughts? Please explain. The scene begins with a simple call to talk radio. It revolves ever slowly with our hero simply talking to a soon-to-be seen psycho. Finally with much careful camera work. The psycho finally asks about the package, and the camera finally focuses on the box sitting on his desk. In perfect timing, the camera shows the radio hosts sweating face, the phone, and the tick-tocking box. Good work if you ask me. > > >Stick to things that you know about Eb. > > You haven't exactly won much credibility for your own views around here, > bubba. (Except in the field of animal-slaughtering, that is.) Thanks Eb. Lets go hunting ; ) > > Eb, who finds it really annoying when people send posts simultaneously to > the list *and* to the private respondee Bleh. I hit the "respond to all"key and worry about the implications later. I find that if I don't say it publically, I don't say it at all. that is, except for Ross and his self photos. Folks gotta see Ross and his merry band of Led Zepplin freaks. Ooops, sorry Ross. See why I just hit "respond to all"? If you'd ever want a private conversation, there are better ways to ask me, you dear loveable Eb. Thanks anyways though. Vince ( and Rush are going back in the studio this October, dood ) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 05:50:34 -0400 From: "jbranscombe@compuserve.com" Subject: Brits Strike Back In A Star Fucking Stylee I know Jason Isaacs, the chappie who plays the anti-Patriot, quite well, and you couldn't hope to meet a nicer geezer, 'pon my life, bloody hell, cup of tea and a lot of different types of cheese. jmbc ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 03:41:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: Stone the quails "Randy R." wrote: > Yeah, sorry. typo. The affect would've been better had I not missed > the correct key. perhaps even the effect :P >> You have said nothing to convince me it wasn't a badly directed >> scene. Sorry. Why is an endlessly revolving camera necessary to show >> a character's inner thoughts? Please explain. > > The scene begins with a simple call to talk radio. It revolves ever > slowly with our hero simply talking to a soon-to-be seen psycho. > Finally with much careful camera work. The psycho finally asks about > the package, and the camera finally focuses on the box sitting on his > desk. In perfect timing, the camera shows the radio hosts sweating > face, the phone, and the tick-tocking box. Good work if you ask me. it could have also been achieved, more subtly, cutting from one shot to another. personally, i'm with eb on the oliver stone as bloated pretentious twat thing. he'd be a lot more palatable if he didn't think he was god's gift to cinema. that said, "talk radio" is about the only movie of his i actually sort of like. i shuuder to think how bad it could have been if stone hadn't directed it before he gave himself the mantle of filmmaker laureate. >> Eb, who finds it really annoying when people send posts >> simultaneously to the list *and* to the private respondee > > Bleh. I hit the "respond to all" key and worry about the implications > later. actually, i suspect his complaint was that when you hit "respond to all," you should take care to edit your send box(es) so that you don't send the same post multiple times to the same person (via the newsgroup, and directly). not that he cared about this going to private e-mail or not. [and i edited mine to send it to you twice on purpose, just to point out how annoying it can be (though everyone does it once in a while).] ===== "Life is just a series of dogs." -- George Carlin __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail – Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 12:25:56 +0100 (BST) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: Eb all over the depraved Sunset Strip On Tue, 27 Jun 2000, Terrence Marks wrote: > Lothar and the Hand People - Space Hymn You don't mean Ramesses - Space Hymn do you? Maybe both bands gave the same title to an album? - - Mike Godwin n.p. Lord of the Reedy River - great! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 07:56:49 -0500 (CDT) From: GSS Subject: Jesus and his gay half sister On Wed, 19 Jul 2000, Fbb wrote: > You haven't exactly won much credibility for your own views around here, > bubba. (Except in the field of animal-slaughtering, that is.) Wow, isn't it nice to have someone around who can speak for the majority? But then isn't the majority usually,,, ok never mind. gss 'remember those who win the game lose the love they sought to gain in debentures of quality and dubious integrity' - j.ian ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 06:01:35 -0700 From: Eleanore Adams Subject: Re: something to Crowe about? Ok, this is silly, but if Russell Crow is ugly for a Kiwi, when my husband passes away (bless his heart) I am moving down under. Yummy! eleanore digja611@student.otago.ac.nz wrote: > >Of course, the main appeal for me > >was the guy who played Wolverine, who is *extremely* sexy. He's Australian, > >and the equally hot Russell Crowe is a Kiwi; James or Dlang, is it something > >in the water down there?? > > > >n. (moving to New Zealand ASAP) > > Russell's regarded as fairly plain by NZ standards - of course NZ'sother > main film personality, is just plain plug-ugly for a kiwi ;) > > >I believe Russell Crowe is 100% aussie! > > born and bred in NZ, although moving to Aussie when he was a nipper. Two of > his cousins both captained the NZ cricket team (Mqartin Crowe is regarded > as one of our greatest ever players). > > >> ya zhivu v' 50 Norfolk Street And I reply. . . . . . . . . . > > > >Ya know, you really don't need that apostrophe after "v" there, assuming > >you're writing in modern Russian. I couldn't resist pointing that out. > > hmm.You're right. Well spotted that man. > > James > > James Dignan___________________________________ You talk to me > Deptmt of Psychology, Otago University As if from a distance > ya zhivu v 50 Norfolk Street And I reply. . . . . . . . . . > Dunedin, New Zealand with impressions chosen from another time > steam megaphone (03) 455-7807 (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 08:53:12 -0500 From: steve Subject: Re: something to Crowe about? Eleanore Adams: >Ok, this is silly, but if Russell Crow is ugly for a Kiwi, when my husband >passes away (bless his heart) I am moving down under. Yummy! OK Feggurrls - what do you guys think of the Finn brothers? - - Steve __________ Well, Jesus ain't no astronaut And Buddah, he's no fool Cathedral bells don't ring in hell 'cos cats down there don't think that's cool. - Bill Nelson ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 08:33:39 -0600 From: hbrandt Subject: Re: Stone the quails > Eb, ever puzzled at this list's ongoing fascination with comic strips I recommend Scott McCloud's entertaining and highly informative "UNDERSTANDING COMICS" and it's recent sequel "REINVENTING COMICS". They'll give you some insight into the form and its appeal, if you're interested in solving your perpetual puzzlement on this subject. Also check Will Eisner's "COMICS AND SEQUENTIAL ART." /hal ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 16:51:57 +0100 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: uk fegs: Apples In Stereo their latest, Discovery of a World inside the Moone, is out on Cooking Vinyl on Monday. Form a disorderly queue. Stewart (chip-chip-chipper 'cos we're going to see Eels tomorrow night) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 11:19:53 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: Stone the quails Dood responded finally, finally, finally: >> You have said nothing to convince me it wasn't a badly directed scene. >> Sorry. Why is an endlessly revolving camera necessary to show a >> character's inner thoughts? Please explain. > >The scene begins with a simple call to talk radio. It revolves ever slowly >with our hero simply talking to a soon-to-be seen psycho. Finally with much >careful camera work. The psycho finally asks about the package, and the >camera finally focuses on the box sitting on his desk. In perfect timing, >the camera shows the radio hosts sweating face, the phone, and the >tick-tocking box. Good work if you ask me. This doesn't answer my question. Bottom line (repeating myself): The revolving camera work makes the viewer's attention stray from some intense, climactic dialogue, and instead vacantly focus on the visual sensation of spinning scenery. Bad direction, which sabotages the emotional focus of the screenplay. And you choose to defend his directing choice by instead talking about what happened *after* the revolving pan. Strange. Eb, who ain't too fond of Sharon Stone either ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 11:33:16 -0700 From: Glen Uber Subject: Stone the Sharon On 20.07.2000 11:19, Eb wrote: > Eb, who ain't too fond of Sharon Stone either Hear, hear! I also don't understand American men's idea of what a "beautiful" woman is: Julia Roberts, Charlize Theron, Cameron Diaz, and especially Cindy Crawford. Of course I tend to like wallflowers, waifs and other such non-traditional beauties. Well, except for Elizabeth Hurley, that is. And my fiancée, of course. ;-) Glen, whose fiancée bears a striking resemblance to Gillian Anderson, only far more beautiful. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 13:22:41 -0500 From: "Paul Christian Glenn" Subject: Re: Stone the quails > Eb, who ain't too fond of Sharon Stone either What about Stone Phillips, with his precious head-nods and smirky smugness? I say we just exterminate anyone with Stone in their name. :) - -Paul (who really likes Oliver Stone's work a lot) Paul Christian Glenn pcg@mailandnews.com Eon Chamber http://eonchamber.port5.com "Freedom is the most demanding of all responsibilities. It is something constantly to be worked at if it is to be understood, maintained, and developed. Freedom is not so much the liberty to do what one likes, as the right to be able to do what one ought". - Ashley Montagu ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 13:06:44 -0700 (PDT) From: John Barrington-Jones Subject: From this week's Rocket (Portland-Seattle rag) "If Robyn Hitchcock is your thing, however, be sure and hop over to the Mad Hatter Lounge on July 22 for a Robyn Hitchcock tribute night featuring the talents of Colin Meloy, Jen Bernard, Ezra Holbrook, Brian Cutler, James Burnett, Loren Depping, and Paul Montagne, among others, assaying their favorites from the Hitchcock songbag, from the present all the way back to his dusty Soft Boys days." - -Johny Renton's "Lip Service" column __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail – Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V9 #200 *******************************