From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V9 #185 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Monday, July 10 2000 Volume 09 : Number 185 Today's Subjects: ----------------- oh...and another thing... [johann johann ] need...bottom...line ["The Kielbasa Kid" ] what with the prawns [Eclipse ] Re: OT: word games [Fwd: A Small Call for Help] (fwd) ["Stewart C. Russel] Re: six domination of the music industry must end! ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Re: Yoo-Foes ["Randy R." ] Re: Yoo-Foes [steve ] Re: Eb all over my record collection [The Great Quail ] Re: Yoo-Foes ["matt sewell" ] Re: Courtney Love quote segues nicely into my dream [Vivien Lyon ] I guess it's going to be Roger now.... [Stephen Buckalew ] Re: I guess it's going to be Roger now.... ["Andrew D. Simchik" Subject: oh...and another thing... i assume the grant lee hitchcock shows were recorded. this should go without saying: i'm interested in copies of any and all. please get in touch! woj ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 09 Jul 2000 14:07:05 PDT From: "The Kielbasa Kid" Subject: need...bottom...line yo! i'm lookin' for copies of last month's bottom line sets (both of 'em). will trade. please contact offlist. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2000 21:52:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Eclipse Subject: what with the prawns http://www.prawnography.net np: Alphaville, First Harvest 1992 - - Eclipse ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 09:11:34 +0100 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: OT: word games [Fwd: A Small Call for Help] (fwd) Capuchin wrote: > > On Fri, 7 Jul 2000 KELLERE@uk.ibm.com wrote: > > How about "attraction". > > Actually, I think this is the best one yet. But one of the requirements was 'no repeat letters', since it's all about set membership and all. After two days grinding away on a fairly powerful workstation (would've been about 20 hours had I used a less boneheaded algorithm) I give you my complete list of non-contrived (that is, all constituents are full English words, with no abbreviations or Latin terms) solutions derived from a big ol' word list I had lying around: discountable := dis : count : able dismountable := dis : mount : able enactor := en : act : or exaction := ex : act : ion exactions := ex : act : ions exactor := ex : act : or exposing := ex : po : sing exposit := ex : po : sit foramen := for : a : men forestay := fore : st : ay impactor := imp : act : or incurable := in : cur : able incurably := in : cur : ably romantic := rom : an : tic romantics := rom : an : tics Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 09:18:38 +0100 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: six domination of the music industry must end! Jerry FUCKING Mathers wrote: > > . hah! Visit http://www.uke-toons.com/ for all your ukelele-related cartoon needs. (I wish I were joking here, but this site is for real.) Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 02:43:16 -0700 From: "Randy R." Subject: Re: Yoo-Foes > >The UFO kept up its normal behaviour< > > I especially liked the above phrase. Fine and dandy. By *normal* behavior, I meant it's ping-ponging about the upper sky with no sound and no regard for any *normal* things I'd ever seen. > Beer, fireworks, clear sky, stars, wobbly camcorder. I don't think Mulder > would get out of bed for this one. True. Absolutely. I pointed that out in my original post. > There are lots good sceptic pages on the web. To draw a perhaps > presumptuous inference from your post, Vince (especially the Bigfoot > mention) I think you've had a fairly unbalanced info diet up till now. Not at all. My readings into the paranormal are quite extensive, and the 1+ hour that myself and my campmates had for the viewing gave us quite a long time to come up with possible answers. The Bigfoot mention was simply silly, much like my love for Rush, Neil Peart, and Geddy Lee. Though I would like to see any of them. I'm an experienced fisherman, hunter, and outdoorsman who's spent a lot of time under the skies, unlike you pasty computergeeks who seem to think that living consists of airline terminals, conscripting anagrams, and purchasing the latest obscure record to give you another excuse to stay out of the suns deadly rays. I know what a satellite looks like drifting across the sky. I know about meteors, jets, weather balloons, choppers, fireballs, comets, and yes, even fireworks. I've seen everything from my many trips and journeys into the those scary, scary trees where there is nary a computer in sight. My 30-30, a fishing pole, and a jacket that doubles as a tent is all I've had on occasion, and many other times very very close to that. I actually find it quite amazing that this is the only thing I couldn't explain from my many years living and traveling amongst the trees, marauding raccoons be damned. Peace, I love you all Yoo-Foes? eh, who knows. Probably just testing government aircraft or something. Tough to explain. We saw it, and I'm happy about it. Like I'd asked before; Are we alone? Apologies to those I have offended, Vince ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 08:51:33 -0500 From: steve Subject: Re: Yoo-Foes Randy R.: >The Bigfoot mention was simply silly, much like my love for Rush, Neil >Peart, and Geddy Lee. Does this mean that you don't really like Alex? ;) - - Steve __________ Well, Jesus ain't no astronaut And Buddah, he's no fool Cathedral bells don't ring in hell 'cos cats down there don't think that's cool. - Bill Nelson ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 10:49:29 -0400 From: The Great Quail Subject: Re: Eb all over my record collection >>>What rare, out-of-print albums are at the top of your frustrated >>>"search" list, which you can't find anywhere? There are a few, maybe some of you could help me out? Perhaps you have spied something on eBay, or in a small box on a shelf somewhere in the well-traversed Feg Network of Second-hand stores? Tangerine Dream's "Alpha Centauri" on CD. (Many of its tracks are on the recent Cleopatra set, but damn, I want the whole original!) K. Penderecki's opera, "The Devils of Loudon" on CD. (A fairly disturbing work, portions of which were used in "The Excorcist.") Jerry Goldsmith's "Alien" Soundtrack. (I don't think this has been released on CD. Why? WHY???? Two other soundtracks that have never been released on CD that I would snatch up in a heartbeat -- Tan Dun's "Fallen" and the soundtrack to "The Shining.") Laurie Anderson's "Home of the Brave" concert on VIDEO or DVD. "Posh Spice and Emitt Rhodes cover Tales from Topographic Oceans" on CD. - --Quail, still catching up on two weeks worth of Fegmail! PS: David De La Rosa -- I am currently reading "Mason & Dixon!" And I just got to that line! Funny old world, inn't? - -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The Great Quail, K.S.C. (riverrun Discordian Society, Kibroth-hattaavah Branch) For fun with postmodern literature, New York vampires, and Fegmania, visit Sarnath: http://www.rpg.net/quail "People that are really very weird can get into sensitive positions and have a tremendous impact on history." --Vice President Dan Quayle ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 08:11:39 -0700 From: Natalie Jacobs Subject: Holy shit! Quail, check this out! Lovecraft meets Pez: http://www.geocities.com/Vienna/9938/archive/arch51.html The world needs to know about this... n. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 16:26:31 BST From: "matt sewell" Subject: Re: Yoo-Foes Yoo-foe debate: > > >The UFO kept up its normal behaviour< > > > > I especially liked the above phrase. > >Fine and dandy. By *normal* behavior, I meant it's ping-ponging about the >upper sky with no sound and no regard for any *normal* things I'd ever >seen. > > > Beer, fireworks, clear sky, stars, wobbly camcorder. I don't think >Mulder > > would get out of bed for this one. > >True. Absolutely. I pointed that out in my original post. > > > There are lots good sceptic pages on the web. To draw a perhaps > > presumptuous inference from your post, Vince (especially the Bigfoot > > mention) I think you've had a fairly unbalanced info diet up till now. > >Not at all. My readings into the paranormal are quite extensive, and the >1+ >hour that myself and my campmates had for the viewing gave us quite a long >time to come up with possible answers. Knee-jerk scepticism I'm sure is just as unforgivable as knee-jerk belief in things paranormal... I wouldn't like to write off anything just because there's no straightforward, scientific "explanation". I'm not sure about UFO chasing - if they are extraterrestrial, I'm sure the odds for them enlightening us are about the same as those for them eating us... Fnord! Matt ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 16:28:24 BST From: "matt sewell" Subject: Re: Yoo-Foes >Randy R.: > >The Bigfoot mention was simply silly, much like my love for Rush, Neil > >Peart, and Geddy Lee. And equally unexplainable! ;-) Matt ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 08:34:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Vivien Lyon Subject: Re: Courtney Love quote segues nicely into my dream - --- digja611@student.otago.ac.nz wrote: > Yes, you read that subject line correctly... > > I was reading a book recently which had a Courtney Love quote > which (I > paraphrase because I haven't got it with me) said something > like: "Seattle > is only famous for music and coffee and smack". Is it just me > or does this > sound vaguely familiar from somewhere...? I think that's a pretty common observation to make about Seattle... although we all know the missing ingredient from that triad of famous-making things is the great Eddie Tews, and he doesn't even live in Seattle proper! Speaking of Eddie, he was in my dream last night. We were riding around this old neighborhood in Seattle where Eddie claimed he used to live (in a house with an alligator). I was softly singing Brian Dewan's song The Creatures, when I noticed that the neighborhood had turned very strange indeed. It seemed as though a very decrepit and depressing ghetto had been turned into a community art project, themed around clowns. There were paintings of clowns on the buildings, mannequins dressed as clowns in doorways and windows. Not nice clowns, though- threatening, punk, skeletal clowns. There was a general atmosphere of an ominous fun house. And then once people had lost interest in their project, it had gradually returned to its previous ghetto-stature and was now viewed as an extremely dangerous place to be. Of course, Eddie was very familiar with the area and wanted to take us inside one of the buildings. As I could hear all kinds of mayhem and bizarre otherworldly things happening in the vicinity, I was not in favor of such an enterprise, but Eddie was persistent and exuberant (as he most always is) and so we entered. Of course, I immediately wanted to leave, but found that the concrete stairs by which we had entered now led up to a concrete wall. I could tell there was some trick to getting out, but I couldn't figure it out and I started to panic. The End. ps- thanks, Eddie, for trapping me in an evil clown ghetto. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail – Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 08:42:16 -0700 From: " Brian Hoare" Subject: Re: Eb all over my record collection - -- On Mon, 10 Jul 2000 10:49:29 The Great Quail wrote: >>>>What rare, out-of-print albums are at the top of your frustrated >>>>"search" list, which you can't find anywhere? > Power Plant by The Golden Dawn. I know there was a cd reissue (I have the album) but it was deleted before I could get my hands on it. I once had an album by a Bristol band called "Startled Insects" I don't know how well it would have aged but 10 years ago it sounded very , um , insecty Brian - --== Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ ==-- Before you buy. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 12:02:49 -0400 From: The Great Quail Subject: Re: Holy shit! Quail, check this out! Ia Ia Pezthulhu! Of course, get to the *children* first.... And all this time I thought they were waiting for the stars to be right; but indeed, the Revolution will come one tiny sugary rectangle at a time.... - --Nyalarthoquail - -- +---------+---------+---------+---------+---------+---------+---------+ The Great Quail, K.S.C. (riverrun Discordian Society, Kibroth-hattaavah Branch) For fun with postmodern literature, New York vampires, and Fegmania, visit Sarnath: http://www.rpg.net/quail "The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents." -- H.P. Lovecraft ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 11:59:46 -0400 From: The Great Quail Subject: I guess it's going to be Roger now.... Glen "I can distinguish 125 different species of hops with my tongue alone" Uber writes, >"I Used To Love You" - It's a perfect mixture of anger, >regret and acceptance of the choices one has made. I still don't know if >it's from Robyn's point of view, or if he's singing from the point of view >of a ex-lover, or a child singing to his parent or a father singing to his >son (Raymond from beyond the grave?). Each time I hear it, I try to listen >from a different point of view. I firmly believe it is about Syd Barrett -- I think there are plenty of lyrics that support this, but I don't have the energy to type them out, and I leave this as an exercise for the student. (As my physics text would always say.) Also, the two times he played it at the Bottom Line were followed by, or preceded by (I can't remember) Syd Barrett songs. - --Quail - -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The Great Quail, K.S.C. (riverrun Discordian Society, Kibroth-hattaavah Branch) For fun with postmodern literature, New York vampires, and Fegmania, visit Sarnath: http://www.rpg.net/quail "With the quail you had to stay on the move... Quail was king. Only the quail exploded upward into the sky and made your heart bang away so madly in your ribcage." --Tom Wolfe ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 12:19:19 -0400 From: overbury@cn.ca Subject: Re: Yoo-Foes On 10 Jul 00, at 16:26, matt sewell wrote: > > Knee-jerk scepticism I'm sure is just as unforgivable as knee-jerk > belief in things paranormal... I wouldn't like to write off anything > just because there's no straightforward, scientific "explanation". See dictionary definitions below if necessary. So what's a knee-jerk skeptic? The skeptic by definition subjects new information to an evaluation process, reserving judgement until sufficient evaluation has been done. You sure you don't mean a knee-jerk cynic? One thing that bugs me is when new-age types write off people by labeling them "skeptic", as if that meant "their minds are already set against the concept". A skeptical attitude can and should be applied to science as well. Read Carl Sagan's "The Demon-Haunted World". He says it rather better than I. - -------- From Miriam-Webster's Collegiate Dictionary: Main Entry: skep·ti·cism Pronunciation: 'skep-t&-"si-z&m Function: noun Date: 1646 1 : an attitude of doubt or a disposition to incredulity either in general or toward a particular object 2 a : the doctrine that true knowledge or knowledge in a particular area is uncertain b : the method of suspended judgment, systematic doubt, or criticism characteristic of skeptics 3 : doubt concerning basic religious principles (as immortality, providence, and revelation) synonym see UNCERTAINTY - ------ Main Entry: cre·du·li·ty Pronunciation: kri-'dü-l&-tE, -'dyü- Function: noun Date: 15th century : readiness or willingness to believe especially on slight or uncertain evidence - ------- Hail Atlantis! - -- Rosso, skeptic ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 12:28:26 -0400 From: LDudich@ase.org Subject: check out this mention of Uncle Bobby...and the cones! http://www.memepool.com/ And in other cone-related news, Robyn Hitchcock is known amongst fegmaniax for his collectible cone art . to Music by eclipse --------------------------------------------------------------------- Also, Would anyone else be interested in doing a Glass Flesh 2 release party/ concert? (Specifically in the Baltimore / Washington area?) I asked Bayard about it, and seemed to like the idea. lemme know privately... - -luther (formerly of the Number Nine Line) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 12:54:21 -0400 From: lj lindhurst Subject: and while looking around at meme.com I found this: http://www.phonebashing.com (Eddie, this is right up your alley!) lj p.s., the gerbil babies are getting bigger every day: http://www.w-rabbit.com/gerbils.html - -- * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * LJ Lindhurst White Rabbit Graphic Design http://www.w-rabbit.com NYC ljl@w-rabbit.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 13:01:00 -0400 From: Stephen Buckalew Subject: I guess it's going to be Roger now.... I must agree...it does seem to me to be about Syd. BTW, I really dig the metaphor "your liquid voice" in that song. (it is a metaphor right?) S.B. *************************************************************** "...isn't it good to be lost in the wood..."--Syd Barrett *************************************************************** Quail wrote: >I firmly believe it is about Syd Barrett -- I think there are plenty >of lyrics that support this, but I don't have the energy to type them >out, and I leave this as an exercise for the student. (As my physics >text would always say.) > >Also, the two times he played it at the Bottom Line were followed by, >or preceded by (I can't remember) Syd Barrett songs. > >--Quail >-- >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >The Great Quail, K.S.C. >(riverrun Discordian Society, Kibroth-hattaavah Branch) > >For fun with postmodern literature, New York vampires, and Fegmania, >visit Sarnath: http://www.rpg.net/quail > >"With the quail you had to stay on the move... Quail was king. Only >the quail exploded >upward into the sky and made your heart bang away so madly in your ribcage." > --Tom Wolfe > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 10:50:48 -0700 From: "Randy R." Subject: Same bat time, same bat channel From: steve > Does this mean that you don't really like Alex? ;) You just had to ask, didn't ya? : ) Here's the latest photo of "Big Al" taken last month at his club in Toronto (The Orbit Room for those scoring at home). Conspiracy theorists insist that Big Al and Adam West have never been seen together. http://wchat.on.ca/public/therienj/alx_jef1.jpg Vince (who's never bagged a quail and would loooove to take Eb for a weekend hunting trip) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 12:07:00 -0700 (PDT) From: "Andrew D. Simchik" Subject: Re: I guess it's going to be Roger now.... - --- The Great Quail wrote: > >"I Used To Love You" - It's a perfect mixture of anger, [] > I firmly believe it is about Syd Barrett -- I think there are plenty > of lyrics that support this, but I don't have the energy to type them > out, and I leave this as an exercise for the student. (As my physics > text would always say.) I got this impression also, but I wondered if it was also about some of his other heroes (and thus addressed to an amalgam of those people). A sort of look back on what used to be anxiety of influence. The lyrics most strongly suggest Syd to me, too. Drew ===== Andrew D. Simchik, schnopia@yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail – Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 16:20:06 EDT From: MARKEEFE@aol.com Subject: Re: I guess it's going to be Roger now.... In a message dated 7/10/00 10:07:56 AM, sbuckalew@minitab.com writes: << BTW, I really dig the metaphor "your liquid voice" in that song. (it is a metaphor right?) >> I think that "liquid" would just be an adjective, but I could be wrong. In order to be a metaphor, wouldn't the description have to be set up in such a way that the voice is described as actually *being* liquid? Like (in the simplest possible example): "Your voice is liquid." And, if it were a simile, it would be: "Your voice is like liquid." As it stands, it merely states something to the effect of: "Your voice has the quality of a liquid." So, it could maybe be an implied simile. Anyone have some sort of a rulebook handy? :-) - -----Michael K. ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V9 #185 *******************************