From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V9 #180 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Tuesday, July 4 2000 Volume 09 : Number 180 Today's Subjects: ----------------- shout-out [rand ] Re: OT: word games [Fwd: A Small Call for Help] (fwd) ["The Kielbasa Kid"] another shoutout [*twofangs productions* ] elf power beware [johann johann ] Invisible Hits: Glass Fish vs. Ryko [Benjamin Lukoff ] Re: elf power beware [Jeff Dwarf ] Re: fegmaniax-digest V9 #179 [tim fuller and randi spiegel ] Cyber snubbed by Robyn ...sniff... ["Marc Holden" ] Re: word games [JH3 ] Re: the subject is PENILE FITNESS [johann johann ] terrastock and terra-ble harmonica ["jbranscombe@compuserve.com" ] The sport that goes "squeak squeak" [overbury@cn.ca] Re: wordgames [digja611@student.otago.ac.nz] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 3 Jul 2000 21:30:49 -0400 From: rand Subject: shout-out sorry to interrupt whatever vigorous discussion that's going on ;-) natalie - your phone number is unlisted! natalie - call me at carole's! please - tonight - monday - it's kinda really important thanks for letting me jump in, and please resume the vigorous discussion. randi ________________________________________________________________________ - --> get your free, private gURLmail account at http://www.gURLmail.com !! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 03 Jul 2000 18:47:26 PDT From: "The Kielbasa Kid" Subject: Re: OT: word games [Fwd: A Small Call for Help] (fwd) Cri me an. "cri" is not a word, and "Cri" is probably even less of one. but it wasn't absolutely necessary for the first segment to be a recognisable word (though desirable). "cri" is a fairly common acronym, anyways. fuckin' thought i *had* it with "an tho le"...then remembered the proper terminology is "ant*hill*" (it was stretching it, anyway, using the french word for "the"). zounds! i wanna think "arc hive" should be workable as two of the three segments, but can't figure out a third. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: 3 Jul 2000 22:40:25 -0400 From: *twofangs productions* Subject: another shoutout I again interrupt your regularly scheduled programming ... please remember I lost my entire address book and thus cannot email these people until they email me first 8-) JbJ - your *Stranglers Surprise* is here. and you will be surprised ... if I am not around, which is more likely than not - please visit Ms. Carole Reichstein's house, I'm sure you remember it from when you and Michael picked me up : ) alternately, Carole works at Powells Technical Bookstore - so you could make arrangements with her to pick the cd up there. Trust me ... The 21 track cd {yes 21 tracks!} should / will be incentive enough to go and get it : ) I will return your tapes to you once I burn them at home ... so I'll be calling upon you for your snail mail addy sometime in August. {Hi Michael Keefe - since you may be reading this as well - sorry we missed going to Jake's - another time perhaps, another place ... } Okay - back to regularly scheduled Robyn programming. rand ________________________________________________________________________ - --> get your free, private gURLmail account at http://www.gURLmail.com !! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 03 Jul 2000 22:34:00 -0400 From: johann johann Subject: elf power beware ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2000 21:57:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Benjamin Lukoff Subject: Invisible Hits: Glass Fish vs. Ryko Hi there, What's the difference between the Glass Fish and Ryko editions of "Invisible Hits"? The track listing looks the same, but I'm wondering if the Ryko sound quality is better. Thanks Ben ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2000 22:25:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: elf power beware johann johann wrote: > http://www.hoosiertimes.com/stories/2000/06/30/news.000630_HT_A12_MCW87704.sto somewhat simularly, http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/outrage/nofear.htm ===== "Life is just a series of dogs." -- George Carlin __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 Jul 2000 02:35:42 -0400 From: tim fuller and randi spiegel Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V9 #179 > Rockin' Ross Overbury (W)rote > > > It is pretty common for everyone else in the world to leave out the province > > when referring to a city in Canada: like, 'Edmonton, Canada' instead of > > 'Edmonton, Alberta'. > > I do it mostly to irk separatists. I think you can do that just as easily by writing, Shawinigan, Que. instead of Shawinigan, PQ (pronounced 'pay cuue' sort of kind of, I think). I have a quick and painful story to tell of a trip to Quebec (City). I was in a record store with a friend who lived in Ste. Foy ('San Fewahhh' sort of) just across the icy St. Lawrence (pronounced 'Saint Law-rence'...). I was trying to enquire about the CD playing (which I thought was the first Opal CD - a compilation of their early singles - which was long deleted even back but was simply enough, Mazzy Star). I asked to see the cover, "S'cuse me, can I see the cover?". The man behind the counter snarled and indicated that he couldn't understand me. I scrambled together as much french as I could, "Ou est...la musique...ici...qu'est-ce que sais...uhhh...le couvre...uhhh..." I was much bolder ordering a hot dog at a brasserie in Paris then I was trying to find out from my countryman (ha!) what music was playing. After more fumbling about, a sympathetic soul piped up - *in english* with a pronounced Quebecois accent - "I tink ee wants ta see de cover...", at which point the guy behind the counter said, "Oh, here..." and gave it to me. Gaaaah! I was paying the price for being from Toronto and not Plattsburgh. See, we in Toronto are the remnant of the evil anglo forces that tried to keep Montreal an english-speaking city and our record store friend spotted me a mile away as an R.O.C. "Rest of Canada) terrorist or something. If I was a tourist from Upstate New York I figure I'd be treated very well. And yet - at 10:15 PM on a Saturday night (ooops - sorry - hockey reference, not Cure reference) - as Jean Guy or Serge are talking about the team's win - I still manage to feel good about their culture and feel that it too is a part of my culture. That shared history would be impossible to separate. (And for that matter, Quebec is home to the 'Festival International Musique Actuelle Victoriavillle' which is one somewhat 'out there' kind of happening, man. I think you have to read 'The Wire' to really understand it ...I) > Mmmmm. Cheesequake. It's funny cuz it's true. James 'Dig, man?' Dignan wrote: > Mainly to Tim I suppose... > > I forgot the cardinal rule: if you're a NZer talking to someone in Toronto, > you have to say six words: Go the Raptors! Yay Sean Marks! I am still very hesitant to embrace this new sport that is called basketball. It is strange to me. It seems like a lot of running around and jumping and such and then, whoever gets the last two points wins. Am I missing something? Ahhhh...I see now - Rangitoto high school, eh? I think you can safely leave out the 'the' before Raptors, though. It wouldn't be grammatically correct but this *is* sports we're talking about...(and even that seems wrong - 'sports' is plural yet it is usually referred to in the singular. The English are proper when they called it 'The World of Sport'. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 Jul 2000 08:47:39 +0100 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: OT: word games [Fwd: A Small Call for Help] (fwd) dmw wrote: > > a suitably big word list in an easily parsed form. i don't. anyone? heh, he chortled smugly... Apart from our EDSH (English/Electronic Dictionary of Spelling and Hyphenation) which I dont think I can give away, there are many word lists out there, some of them quite usable. There's the old SIL list at http://www.mirror.ac.uk/sites/ftp.simtel.net/pub/simtelnet/msdos/lingstcs/ in files words1.zip - words4.zip Alternatively, there should be a decent word list in /usr/dict/words -- if not, "here's a nickel, kid. Get yourself a better computer." I wish I could find the site, but there used to be a bloke selling a list of every single English word ever. It was somewhat hilarious. Stewart np: Collins Bird Guide / Bird Call Identification, with such classics as "Avocet, Bee-eater, Black-winged Stilt", "Little Owl excitement and begging calls", and of course the classic "Spotted Crake song: Quail song". ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2000 16:33:53 +0100 (BST) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: Newman/Dylan/Lesh On Fri, 30 Jun 2000, Eb wrote: > I also found his harmonica-playing absolutely appalling -- he'd > play one three-note sequence for like two minutes, just changing the rhythm > of the notes! * He's always done that. If you're a Toots Thielmans fan you tend not to like it. If you just treat it as a sort of soundscape drone which gives a break from the verses it can be quite relaxing... > 1. Duncan And Brady * Traditional song about a crooked cop, apparently. Just found a version by James Taylor at http://www.geocities.com/scottgw6/geo6.htm JT says he got it from Tom Rush, who probably learned it from Ramblin' Jack Elliott. > 2. That Lucky Old Sun * By Haven Gillespie and Beasley Smith (who they?) > 8. Tell Me That It Isn't True [this song was really good...I need to > go look up which album it's on!] * Nashville Skyline - - Mike Godwin ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2000 10:34:51 -0700 From: "Marc Holden" Subject: Cyber snubbed by Robyn ...sniff... RH: I don't know if the statistic is true, but supposedly, most albums that >sell over a million or two million copies are only played once by the >purchaser. In other words, the mega-sale that the company's after where >you're selling five or ten million copies - you're selling to people who >aren't going to listen to them. One NZ band who was mentioned very briefly but who has always been close to my heart is Straitjacket Fits. I remember seeing them at the 9:30 Club in D.C. shortly after Arista released "Melt". What an amazing experience! I have rarely been as transfixed by the power of a band's live performance as I was that evening. I'm sure there are at least half a dozen other people who felt the same. There's a sort of yin-yang thing about getting what feels like a private show by one of your favorite bands. I was working in record stores during the period in which some of the NZ bands were being signed by larger labels in the U.S. and I believe it was difficult if not impossible for these artists to live up to the expectations of the conglomerates. Granted, there were internal pressures (normal stuff like ego conflicts) that caused the implosion of such fine bands as Straitjacket Fits, the Chills or the Verlaines but whatever successes they did achieve on our shores were mostly due to the efforts of some of the more creative indie labels. An example would be the Noisyland tour with Straitjacket Fits, the Bats (who seemed to be the major draw) and JPSE which required the cooperation of 3 labels to pull off and which I believe was achieved somewhat successfully primarily by the marketing efforts of Mammoth and Matador, both fine, hard-working independents. Ironically these 2 labels inevitably achieved longevity by working distribution deals with major labels but have also managed to maintain their autonomy. Which is something Flying Nun has also done on the other side of the world. Ah, the economic realities of the music biz. It seems that the artists who have the endurance to go on after their major label deals sour (eg. Robyn Hitchcock, Grant Lee Phillips, Luna) are blessed with the wisdom of hindsight and the savvy to approach their careers with flexibility and maturity. It would be great to see Martin Phillipps get past his personal difficulties and be able to find the financial backing to give his independent venture a go. It's hard to start over but maybe by severing his ties with Flying Nun he'll have enough momentum to actualize his vision. Happy 4th of July! Cheers, Roberta ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 Jul 2000 10:55:59 PDT From: "The Kielbasa Kid" Subject: fourth of july fuckoff pol ice man "pol" is "informal" apparently, but it's certainly "recognisable" if you ask me. i was actually thinking that the british spelling of "polarise" would work if there were such a word as "pola" (pol a rise), so checked the dictionary to find out that there *isn't*, but stumbled upon "policeman" at the same time. can't remember where i read (maybe it was a dream, even) that cynthia plaster caster is going to be having a show somewhere (new york, i think); and that momus' cock *will* be included. "Kenny came from out on the island" THE KENSTER ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 Jul 2000 12:55:16 -0500 From: JH3 Subject: Re: word games >> Need your help in conjuring up a word. Try not to laugh, but it's for a >> math enrichment unit I'm writing up on basic set theory. HA HA HA! Ooops, sorry... Actually, this *was* pretty hard. The only one I could come with was "incurable," which was fairly obvious once I tried to come up with a good word to describe the sort of psychopathology required to devise a word game of this sort. If it's acceptable for the letter "a" to count as a word (and it doesn't say it can't), then you could use "foramen," though it isn't a very common word outside of my own house. And if "subking" and "dom" are acceptable words ("dom" should be, at least), then you could also use "subkingdom." I might come up with some others, if there was enough money involved. John "just call me Mister Language Person" Hedges ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 Jul 2000 14:39:50 -0400 From: johann johann Subject: Re: the subject is PENILE FITNESS when we last left our heroes, lj lindhurst exclaimed: >http://www.penis-enlargement-now.com/penilefitness/index2.html in a similar, um, vein... +w ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2000 16:04:46 -0400 From: "jbranscombe@compuserve.com" Subject: terrastock and terra-ble harmonica I was at the London Terrastock festival last year. Great fun, lots of weird surprises, but was disappointed by Lothars (great concept, dull execution) and Green Pajamas ("We're a cult American band" I like their last album, 7 Fathoms Down And Falling, though) Of the artistes who are playing again I'd recommend Spaceheads (includes trumpeter from Dislocation Dance and David Thomas's Two Pale Boys), Pat Orchard (psych-folk), Alchemysts (psych-Stooges) and Abunai! (prog-rock with laughs - impossible as that may seem). On the harmonica front - I simply can't listen to Dylan's playing, and I rather blanch when Robyn straps on his rack as well. He seems to deliberately 'play down' as if making some ironic nod to Deely Bobdyn. Funny because when I saw him play for someone else (Peter Blegvad) he's actually quite good in a traditional, can-play-the-notes kind of a way... np: Creedence Clearwater Revival (John Fogerty is another crap harp player) jmbc ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2000 13:29:29 -0700 From: Eb Subject: re: Flying Dylan Mike: >> I also found his harmonica-playing absolutely appalling -- he'd >> play one three-note sequence for like two minutes, just changing the rhythm >> of the notes! > >* He's always done that. I don't agree at all. He did some quite nice harmonica-blowing on the '60s albums. And even some live recordings I own via the Biograph and Live 1966 sets are miles more inventive than what I heard last week. Roberta: >An example would be the Noisyland tour with >Straitjacket Fits, the Bats (who seemed to be the major draw) and JPSE which >required the cooperation of 3 labels to pull off I saw that show (oof...ugly personal memories of that night, but never mind). Myself, I definitely got the idea that JPSE was the major draw (and after all, they were the headliner). That was back in the days when everything released on Matador was automatically a "buzz" item. Eb, wishing he had a copy of Fifty Flavours of Glue ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2000 17:17:04 -0400 From: overbury@cn.ca Subject: The sport that goes "squeak squeak" > I am still very hesitant to embrace this new sport that is called > basketball. Basketball was invented in the USA by a Canadian. It's properly played with peach baskets, of course. http://www.tvdsb.on.ca/tecumseh/student/5/Naisek.htm ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 15:08:11 +1200 From: digja611@student.otago.ac.nz Subject: Re: wordgames READJUST!!! RE-AD-JUST; READ-ADJUST >> 1. Each letter is different from every other. check >> 2. The first and second segments of the character string contain the >> letters that would belong to the first of the two sets. check. r-e-a-d >> 3. The second and third segments of the character string contain the >> letters that would below to the second of the two sets. check a-d-j-u-s-t >> 4. The complete character string is a recognizable word. check, readjust vt. to adjust for a subsequent time >> 5. The substring consisting of the first and second segments is also a >> recognizable word. check, read vti. to scan and cogitate words in order to comprehend their meaning >> 6. The substring consisting of the the second and third segments is also a >> recognizable word. check, adjust vt. to change a setting or position by moving some feature, part or whole >> 7. The substring consisting of just the second segment is also a >> recognizable word. check, ad n. advertisement >> 8. The substring consisting of just the third segment is also a >> recognizable word. check, just (1) adj. prudent, correct, seemly, reasonable; (2) ad. precisely, barely, exactly >> 9. It would be nice, though not essential, for the substring consisting of >> the the first segment also to be a recognizable word. check, re prep. concerning, with reference to James James Dignan___________________________________ You talk to me Deptmt of Psychology, Otago University As if from a distance ya zhivu v' 50 Norfolk Street And I reply. . . . . . . . . . Dunedin, New Zealand with impressions chosen from another time steam megaphone (03) 455-7807 (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V9 #180 *******************************