From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V9 #177 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Friday, June 30 2000 Volume 09 : Number 177 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: pandemonium review [Capuchin ] Re: a glass of cold gravy with a hair in it, please [Vivien Lyon ] Re: the further impact of cable tv, post-Claudine [Stephen Buckalew ] Your take may vary..... ["John Barrington Jones" ] Re: Newman/Dylan/Lesh [Eb ] news for you Northwesterners [Eb ] Re: Your take may vary..... ["Andrew D. Simchik" ] Re: pandemonium review [Eb ] Re: Sinead O'Lesbian ["Andrew D. Simchik" ] Eb O'Lesbian ["Andrew D. Simchik" ] Sinead O'Lesbian, aka I don't think Lesbian is the capital of Portugal... [Glen Uber ] tonight in Washington Deecee [Christopher Gross ] warning: 89% Canadian geographical content 2% B.T.O. [tim fuller and ran] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 09:28:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: pandemonium review Is this the worst piece of "professional" writing you've ever seen?!? > > > Before every show I review, there’s this moment of abject fear. I > stand there in the club thinking that there’s no way I’ll have > anything to say. I picture myself sitting for hours, staring at my > screen, while millions of you sit, waiting to know how the show > really was. Yeah, Charles. MILLIONS of people read your column... and we all wait for YOUR opinion to find out how the show REALLY WAS. > But tonite I knew would be different. Tell me that "tonite" hasn't become an acceptable spelling. > There’s too much energy in their presence, too much pathos in their > songs, and most importantly of all, they are consummate entertainers > unable to leave an audience wowed. Huh? Unable to leave an audience wowed? That's too bad. > Something tonite onstage at the Crocodile would put my brain in gear > and get the words flowing. Well, one out of two ain't... come to think of it, that is bad. > Now, here I am at the opposite end of the spectrum. My mind is awash with > images and words while my fingers race along the keyboard unable to keep > up. There is so much to process and so much to keep up with that I feel > overloaded with things to tell you. I know: Every writer should have such > problems. Enough with the meta! The review is a third over and he hasn't said a word about the show! He takes two full paragraphs to say "They both played on most songs and backed up each other's vocals". Gah! I will never read another rock review as long as I live. J. - -- ______________________________________________ J A Brelin Capuchin ______________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 09:53:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Vivien Lyon Subject: Re: a glass of cold gravy with a hair in it, please - --- Natalie Jacobs wrote: > Now I have the urge to listen to "Pisces, Aquarius, Capricorn, > and Jones" > again. I dimly recall that "The Door Into Summer" was a > really good song... Door into Summer is a beautiful song. "And he paid for it with years he cannot buy back with his tears and he finds out there's been no one keeping score And he thought he heard the echos of a penny-whistle band and the laughter from a distant caravan and the brightly painted lines of circus wagons in the sand fading through the door into summer" Makes you cry. Makes me cry, anyway. > n., puttin' off work More work-puttin'-off than thou, Vivien ps- yes, that's two Monkees songs that I've confessed make me cry. Don't you wonder how many more there are? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 11:22:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: Sinead O'Lesbian - --- "Andrew D. Simchik" wrote: > --- Jeff Dwarf wrote: > > "Andrew D. Simchik" wrote: > > > quote) story doesn't ring true to me. She doesn't strike me as > the > > > sort of person who would masquerade as a woman who loves > > > men in her lyrics, even if she would in interviews and such. > > > > from what i read, it was more like, she's always been a lesbian, > but > > she's also been very uncomfortable with those feelings and tried to > > deny them, which is why she has been involved with men in the past. > > sort of a denial thing, that she's now coming to terms with. she'd > > hardly be the first person to try to repress homoerotic feelings > with > > heteroerotic actions. > > No. But I've known closeted homosexuals before and none of them > made such a convincing masquerade of (1) heterosexual lust and (2) > outspokenness and candor on every subject including sexuality. In > other words she did an excellent job of convincing me that she was > more than just attracted to men. It's very common for the closet > case to feign heteroerotic passion. It's less common for him or her > to do it quite so well. > > I'm taking into consideration also that this is someone who has > extraordinarily strong convictions that are often in contradiction, > and > who is unafraid to demonstrate those convictions in showy (some might > say outrageous) ways. To my mind it would be more likely that her > attractions to men were genuine, and her denial of her own homoerotic > feelings was genuine, and that she is now going through a stage where > she feels it necessary to deny the heteroerotic attractions, for the > sake > of political feelings (the "political lesbianism" so many bisexual > women > (and some straight women) used to and sometimes still do adopt, at > least > temporarily), political statements (I know a number of bi women who > call > themselves lesbian as a means to solidarity), spiritual feelings, or > even > the > simple rush that goes along with coming out, the sense that suddenly > you've > found what's real and all your energies are focused on this new > openness > about long-pent feelings. When they're coming out, nearly everyone > goes > through the "ultragay" phase. At the end of it, many people settle > down > and are simply gay, but a lot of people end up realizing that they've > denied > their _heteroerotic_ side, to fit in or merely to concentrate on > their new > identity, and end up having to come out again as bisexual. > > Though I came out as bi and have never really repressed any side of > me (to > most people's chagrin :)), I did go through a long phase of > downplaying my > hetero attractions to myself and others. It's only in the past > couple of > years that I've been able to sort of rediscover that I'm not just > some > sort > of impure homo (as opposed to the pure, Kinsey-6 homo) but that my > hetero > side is as valid as my homo side. Now if I could just get rid of > this > concept of > "sides" it would all be okay. > > In any case, I think I would be happier if she were right -- she > really is > predominately gay and will now be able to live the life she's always > been > meant for (except that the priest/celibacy thing is going to present > a > real problem) -- but I worry that she isn't, and that this is at best > her > "ultragay" phase prior to accepting bisexuality as a possible (if > generally > reviled) option, and at worst a publicity stunt. all quite plausible. on the other hand, sinead has never done anything half-assed, and as such i can also buy that, like everything else about her, her heterodenial (for want of a real word) would also be completely full on and over the top, from shaving her head to shredding the picture of the pope to renouncing doing pop music in favor of taking up opera to becoming a priest with that splinter group to whatever. she's just kinda naturally in a perpetual state of extreme drama. obviously where things settle down remains to be seen, but ultimately, i seriously doubt it's a publicity stunt. as notorious as she is, it's not like she needs to doing anything that dramatic for publicity. she could have just grown her hair out. and obviously (well, not obviously, but obviously now that i'm saying so), you would have more insight into the particulars of the process of coming out as a non-het than i would, since the closest i get really is being attracted to tomboys. ===== "Life is just a series of dogs." -- George Carlin __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 14:45:04 -0400 From: Stephen Buckalew Subject: Re: the further impact of cable tv, post-Claudine Me and the other songwriter in our old indie band "The Blurry Amoebas" were both were avowed Monkey fans. Drove the other members nuts. We did "Sometimes Love is Only Sleeping" (not sure if the title's right). I still do "Little Bit You, Little Bit Me" in my solo set, great tune... S.B. *************************************************************** "...isn't it good to be lost in the wood..."--Syd Barrett *************************************************************** At 05:27 PM 6/29/00 -0700, you wrote: > >--- Eclipse wrote: > >> if you can stand the post-Head releases (and i really like >> _Present_ and >> _Instant Replay_, for the most part), > >Oh man! I love Changes, the Davy and Mickey album. Sure, it's >full of crap, but Tell Me Love is one of the most beautiful >songs I've ever heard. I used to listen to that over and over >and sob...of course, I was thirteen at the time. But it still >sort-of chokes me up (I am a sentimental moron). And then >there's Midnight Train! And All Alone in the Dark! Those are >great songs! > >Vivien! >ps- when I learned that Andy Partridge dug the Monkees (and >tried to emulate Peter Tork's hairstyle) I flipped out. That my >first favorite band inspired another of my favorite bands was >so...cool! I mean, people who loved the Beatles when they were >five are used to such a thing, but I loved the Monkees, who even >now are somewhat suspect. > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Get Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! >http://mail.yahoo.com/ > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 10:20:31 -0700 From: Karen Reichstein Subject: re:testing, 1,2,3 Hey! Is this the Dan Poppe who lives in Eugene and knows Brian Baskett?? If so, my sister Carole and I met you at a RH show in Eugene a few years back. If you're not the same Dan, uh, never mind! Regardless, welcome to the list! Back to lurking mode. Karen - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 08:40:35 -0700 From: Dan Poppe Subject: testing 1,2,3 Hmmm...I sent my first post to the list from a new E-mail address this past weekend, and it never appeared in the digest, so please pardon the test message. (tap tap tap) Hello? Dan ------------------------------ Date: 29 Jun 2000 14:37:38 -0700 From: "John Barrington Jones" Subject: Your take may vary..... About Robyn's arrogance and aloofness (is that a word? how about aloofivity?): There is something to be said for the "fan" mindset affecting the perception of a meeting with our "heroes." I think Robyn himself said once in an interview that you should never meet your heroes. So, Gnat walks away thinking that Robyn grumbled, "I've already got some of these, thanks very much." when he actually said, "Oh, a creature! I've got the others at home." And Eddie, maybe Rick Gershon's nickname for you is actually "Dr. Mettle" instead of "Dr. Meddle". That would be better, now, wouldn't it? Or even, "Dr. Metal" --as in.....yew fuckin' rawk!! I guess I'm playing devil's advocate here. There have been times when I've been put off by Robyn's being put off with my "weenie-ness". But by the same token, he's never FULLY brushed me off or refused any of my zany requests (for songs, or for autographs, or for labelling my cd-r of "mossy liquor" three years ago) BUT at the same time, if he is no longer interested in being represented and promoted by a corporation, then he'd better realize the importance of us as people, not just as cash cow niche demographic consumer music geek what-have-you's. =jbj= ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 00:04:13 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: Newman/Dylan/Lesh LJ wrote: >http://www.w-rabbit.com/dumbstuff/randynewman2.html >http://www.w-rabbit.com/dumbstuff/randynewman3.html Awww. :) >If anyone wants to see the pictures of him performing, just drop me a >line and I will happily send them along... Email me a couple of choice ones. >He was a super nice guy to meet in person! I could NOT believe I was >meeting him-- I stammered, "you're one of my HEROES!" and he was >like, "Oh really?" And I said, "Oh yes, I spent many an angst-filled >teenage afternoon listening to you!" He seemed to really like that. Did you show him your nipple ring? I bet he would've liked that, too. Well, I just got back from Dylan/Lesh in Irvine. Dylan *opened* (I was led to believe otherwise), and as a result, I unfortunately missed his first two songs. I'll have to find a setlist posted somewhere, to see which songs I missed. Hopefully, nothing essential. Because I was late, I unfortunately didn't have time to take anthropological notes on the Deadhead Scene in the parking lot, either. Drat.... Anyway, I don't have anything particularly detailed to say. Dylan played several songs I adore ("Like a Rolling Stone," "I Don't Believe You," "Highway 61," "Don't Think Twice, It's Alright," "Tangled Up in Blue," "Leopard Skin Pillbox Hat," "Blowin' in the Wind"), and the only major dead spot was some traditional cover which everyone shrugged off (see below). His singing makes me sad -- he's still really sharp and inventive about phrasing (he really does never sing a song the same way twice), but the fundamental timbre of his voice has completely deserted him. I wish I could magically wave my hand, and remove every cigarette he has ever smoked from his lungs. I also found his harmonica-playing absolutely appalling -- he'd play one three-note sequence for like two minutes, just changing the rhythm of the notes! Sheesh. His band members were fine players, however, and not like session-guy-fine, but authentic-fine. Bawb said almost nothing beyond introducing the band at the end, but that's standard for him. Celeb spotting: Melrose Larry Green and (about five seats to my left) the ugliest dude from Blondie (Jimmy Destri?). Oh wait...just found the setlist on Usenet. Jeez, I don't even *know* the first two songs! What a relief. 1. Duncan And Brady 2. That Lucky Old Sun 3. Masters Of War 4. Don't Think Twice, It's All Right 5. Tangled Up In Blue 6. Searching For A Soldier's Grave [the "traditional cover" mentioned above] 7. Country Pie 8. Tell Me That It Isn't True [this song was really good...I need to go look up which album it's on!] 9. Down In The Flood 10. I Don't Believe You (She Acts Like We Never Have Met) 11. Drifter's Escape 12. Leopard-Skin Pill-Box Hat 13. Things Have Changed 14. Like A Rolling Stone 15. Forever Young 16. Highway 61 Revisited 17. Blowin' In The Wind Anyway, I was very happy to finally see Dylan again, but I sure wouldn't want to hear this concert on *tape*, minus the crowd/visuals. As for Phil Lesh, well, I managed to sit through about 45 minutes of it. I walked around "observing culture" for another 15 minutes after that (with the music still audible), then I left. By the time I left, the house was notably less full than during the peak of Dylan's set, which comforted me. Basically, the Lesh gang would just riff on one or two chords with the expected Clippety Cloppety Brainfry Beat, and every so often, they'd subtly switch time signatures. Neato. I *know* they were playing in 11/8, at one point -- I guess that means they're brilliant. Oh, and I "miracled" my extra ticket to some needy, 16ish hippie girl. I hope she appreciated it, because I never saw her inside the venue. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 12:22:36 -0700 From: Eb Subject: news for you Northwesterners PRESTIGIOUS FESTIVAL RETURNS TO THE U.S. FOR FOURTH ANNUAL JAMBOREE The fourth Terrastock festival of arts and music takes place this year over the weekend of November 3rd - 5th. The venue chosen is the historic Showbox, located in downtown Seattle, Washington, USA. Terrastock IV aims to build on the continuing tradition and success of the first three Terrastock festivals, held in Providence, RI (1997), San Francisco CA (1998), and in London, England (1999). This upcoming three-day event has been conceived in a similar spirit of "peace, love and cooperation" in order to celebrate the music championed by the long running magazine, The Ptolemaic Terrascope. This year we are pleased to be associated with our good friend and associate Chris Porter, from the Seattle-based arts and events company One Reel. Together we hope to make Terrastock IV one of the most outstanding of what has already been a very special series of events. Terrastock is not an indie rock record company feeding frenzy. Bands and artists will be there solely at the personal invitation of the organizers. The one thing they all have in common is the fact that each has at some time been adulated in The Ptolemaic Terrascope. It's simply about the music and that indefinable "spirit of Terrastock". If you were fortunate enough to be at any of the previous Terrastocks, you'll already know what we mean. And if you're intrigued enough to check out what all the fuss has been about in previous years, then now's your chance: don't hesitate, because tickets to this unique event are promising to sell out VERY quickly indeed. Below you'll find a list of confirmed bands and artists to date, many of who are travelling over vast continents and oceans under their own steam to be with us. Bear in mind that this is by no means a complete and final roster and is subject to confirmation. As always, we have several additional guest artists and special surprises in store. Weekend passes, which are available through Ticketweb (see below for details), can be purchased this year at the extremely reasonable price of $65.00 until August 31st, thereafter still only $75.00. This is for three days worth of music remember, and a chance to see many bands who are making a rare if not unique appearance in the North West. Orders MUST be made by the cut-off date in order to attract the early supporter rate. However, since we anticipate the festival to completely sell out well in advance of the cut-off date once again, it's in your own best interest to PURCHASE YOUR TICKETS IMMEDIATELY. Furthermore, in order to minimize potential disappointment this year, we have limited orders to a maximum of 4 passes per person ordering. If you have any questions regarding directions, travel information, accommodation, or the comparative price of pasta shells in Seattle, feel free to regularly check our website at http://www.terrascope.org - we will be posting as much information as possible there throughout the coming months. Likewise, to subscribe to the Terrascope's mailing list for updates and related news, please send a message to terraguests@terrascope.org and put SUBSCRIBE in the subject line. CONFIRMED BANDS SO FAR ABUNAI! THE ALCHEMYSTS AMBER ASYLUM THE BEVIS FROND CHARALAMBIDES CHILDREN OF THE RAINBOW COUNTRY JOE McDONALD & THE FROND-FISH DAMON AND NAOMI DONOVAN'S BRAIN ETHEREAL COUNTERBALANCE GHOST THE GREEN PAJAMAS THE LINUS PAULING QUARTET LOTHARS MAJOR STARS MARTYN BATES (Eyeless in Gaza) MAZARIN THE MINUS FIVE THE MONKEYWRENCH PAT ORCHARD THE SIX ORGANS OF ADMITTANCE SPACEHEADS STONE BREATH SUBARACHNOID SPACE TARANTEL WELLWATER CONSPIRACY WINDY AND CARL Venue address: Showbox 1426 1st Avenue Seattle, WA 98101 (206-628-3151) Tickets (go on sale TODAY at 6am Pacific Time, 9am Eastern): * Ticketweb (www.ticketweb.com or call 1-800-965-4827) Direct link to purchase tickets on-line: http://www.ticketweb.com/user/?region=wa&query=schedule&attract=37999 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 12:23:46 -0700 (PDT) From: "Andrew D. Simchik" Subject: Re: Your take may vary..... - --- John Barrington Jones wrote: > BUT at the same time, if he is no longer interested in being > represented and promoted by a corporation, then he'd better realize > the importance of us as people, not just as cash cow niche > demographic consumer music geek what-have-you's. Part of the problem may be that the geek as a species can be difficult to understand if one is not a member of that species (or even if one is). For example, I'm a pretty hardcore music geek by most people's standards, but I still shake my head in amazement and admiration at people with the passion to follow a musician on tour like many of the fegs I met last week do. At least I can relate to the desire to do so, though, if not the dedication. I suspect, however, that while Robyn may be quite musically literate, his relationship to the music he loves is different and not a music geek's. So I think he and many other recording artists with "cult followings" (read: music geeks) see our behavior as somewhat fetishistic. I can't say I'd blame them. Also I wonder what sort of fans he'd like to acquire -- whether he's happy about having a pretty well-established group of Robynites, or whether he'd prefer to, say, steal fans from Korn or Britney Spears. (Unlikely, obviously.) Or would he prefer a different crowd every night that he leaves, to a one, gasping with ecstasy and buying every one of his records the very next day? I said "fetish" before...did I mean "habit"? What does he think goes on in our heads? Can he recognize it as a form of the same respect and adoration he presumably felt and feels for his musical heroes? Drew ===== Andrew D. Simchik, schnopia@yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 12:36:30 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: pandemonium review Pandemonium review: >Although very similar in style (both play acoustic guitars and both write >lyrics that'll kill you with their beautiful simplicity) "Simplicity" isn't exactly the first word I'd associate with Robyn Hitchcock's lyrics. >Grant Lee banged on the highest notes of the >piano while Robyn danced his "trippy dance" around the stage (not the only >time we saw it tonite either). Arms waving and hips swaying he stayed >completely true to the lyrics while saturating them with their full meaning >and feeling through a total clarity of voice that Jimi never had. >I'm still not out of words (if you can believe that after the tome above). Oh, shadduuuuuuup. (Yes, that review was indeed a hideous spectacle.) Eb, now trashing all posts with "Sinead O'Lesbian" as a subject line ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 12:37:02 -0700 (PDT) From: "Andrew D. Simchik" Subject: Re: Sinead O'Lesbian - --- Jeff Dwarf wrote: [] > all quite plausible. on the other hand, sinead has never done anything > half-assed, and as such i can also buy that, like everything else about > her, her heterodenial (for want of a real word) would also be > completely full on and over the top, from shaving her head to shredding > the picture of the pope to renouncing doing pop music in favor of > taking up opera to becoming a priest with that splinter group to > whatever. she's just kinda naturally in a perpetual state of extreme > drama. Agreed -- that pretty much describes my take on it, yeah. "Extreme drama." :) > obviously where things settle down remains to be seen, but > ultimately, i seriously doubt it's a publicity stunt. Oh, I have no doubt she's got a sapphic side that she's been repressing, at least publicly. The publicity stunt part would be the timing of the revelation and the spin she's offering on it. My cynical not-so-inner voice thinks she expects her fan base has shifted to a Lilithcentric galaxy, and that this seems an opportune nothing-to-lose time to come out. > and obviously (well, not obviously, but obviously now that i'm saying > so), you would have more insight into the particulars of the process of > coming out as a non-het than i would, since the closest i get really is > being attracted to tomboys. I don't want to come across as claiming expert insight into the matter -- it's just that I've come out and have watched, at close range, a lot of others come out. And I must admit that I'd much rather see a celebrity come out definitively as bi than as gay because it's usually so freakin' wishy-washy when people do it (e.g. Michael Stipe). But mainly I don't think she was faking her love songs to men...just obfuscating the ones to women. So how *is* the new album? Does it suck? Drew ===== Andrew D. Simchik, schnopia@yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 12:56:32 -0700 (PDT) From: "Andrew D. Simchik" Subject: Eb O'Lesbian - --- Eb wrote: > Eb, now trashing all posts with "Sinead O'Lesbian" as a subject line Isn't that just one step up on the tackiness meter from announcing publicly that you have so-and-so in your killfile? Drew ===== Andrew D. Simchik, schnopia@yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 12:52:56 -0700 From: Glen Uber Subject: Sinead O'Lesbian, aka I don't think Lesbian is the capital of Portugal... On 30.06.2000 12:36, Eb wrote: > Eb, now trashing all posts with "Sinead O'Lesbian" as a subject line Cool! Does that mean we can now say whatever we want as long as we choose the right subject line? Now we know what to do if we don't want to incur the Wrath of Eb. ;-) Gettin' even less work done than (g)Nat and Vivien while I get in touch with my inner A-hole Hoppies! - -g- n.p. Ween, _White Pepper_ "Half the world's starving and half the world bloats, half the world sits on the other and gloats." - --Robyn Hitchcock +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Glen Uber uberg@sonic.net http://www.sonic.net/~uberg ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 13:04:44 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: Robyn O'Likespussy >--- Eb wrote: >> Eb, now trashing all posts with "Sinead O'Lesbian" as a subject line > >Isn't that just one step up on the tackiness meter from announcing >publicly that you have so-and-so in your killfile? I'm not sure, but it's at least five steps up from titling a thread "Sinead O'Lesbian." Eb ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 16:17:26 -0400 (EDT) From: Christopher Gross Subject: tonight in Washington Deecee So, are any of you fine Fegs going to see Uz Jsme Doma, the Czech Republic's greatest non-beer invention, in Washington DC tonight? I hope so! C'mon. try it! You'll like it.... It's at the Black Cat, 831 14th St. NW. (202) 667-7960, and it's $8 at the door. They're playing with two other bands, Fee Foe V and Macitajs on Acid, but I don't know who's up first. I should be there, unless something unforeseen happens. If you want to hear them before making up your mind, I think clamazon.com has some samples in RealAudio format. Just search for Uz Jsme Doma and scroll down to The Ears, their latest album. UJD links: - --Chris ______________________________________________________________________ Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 13:10:54 -0700 (PDT) From: "Andrew D. Simchik" Subject: oof - --- Eb wrote: > >--- Eb wrote: > >> Eb, now trashing all posts with "Sinead O'Lesbian" as a subject line > > > >Isn't that just one step up on the tackiness meter from announcing > >publicly that you have so-and-so in your killfile? > > I'm not sure, but it's at least five steps up from titling a thread > "Sinead > O'Lesbian." Glad you felt it necessary to trump it. Ungh. Drew ===== Andrew D. Simchik, schnopia@yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 23:31:21 -0400 From: tim fuller and randi spiegel Subject: warning: 89% Canadian geographical content 2% B.T.O. > > gahhhh!!! the classic reference point, along with 'about' (which the > > world insists > > we pronounce 'aboot'). a rather typical Canadian accent is a blend > > somewhere > > between Scottish (Edinburgh nae Glasgow) and Native Canadian > > (aboriginal). Bob and > > Doug MacKenzie got it right I have to admit. > > Tim, are you from Northern Ontario? Uh...no, I'm from Northern Toronto. (Don Mills, actually - refer to Eugene Levy's character of the same name in SCTV's 'Republic Serials' sketches - it was 'North America's first planned suburb'; we then emigrated to Willowdale - refer to Rush - The Necromancer, "...the three travellers, men of Willowdale...fording (?) the river Don..." Well Willowdale does sound like something from The Hobbit I suppose but the river Don is certainly not too mystical, especially if you fall in to it by The Gardiner Expressway...yecccch. However, having said that I realize I am generalizing a bit. Take Toronto and Vancouver out of the picture and most of Canadians from Ontario to BC *are* somewhat homogenous and the accent is very similar. But, Toronto has often been called the most cosmopolitan city in the world - something like 100 different languages - so it would be hard to say that accent applies to us here. I myself start talking that way once I'm up near Bala... > > Once you go east of Toronto, you get into some much more folky cultures > > To a Montrealer, Torontonians sound a tad more American. Just a tad. Yes, Randi has talked about her first trip to T.O. and how she found it so American. I attribute that to watching too much Rocketship 7 (any Fegs from Cheektowaga?) and living in a city that still pines to be N.Y.C. > A couple of years after my sister moved to Ontario I could hear the difference. > And you guys say "pop" instead of "soft drink". Fascinating, eh? Pop? Soft Drink? I think neither of us call it a soda, though...same for 'slacks' and 'hoagies' (pants, submarine sandwiches). Ski Doo, however, is a proudly universal term! Speaking of Montreal, are you doing any Jazz Festival stuff this weekend? > > Actually, my favourite Canadian band is Max Webster, but they're more in the Frank Zappa meets Rush dept. > A few weeks ago I was thinking that a time or two the list has discussed > bands that you'd like others to hear that they likely hadn't. If I'd have > had my wits about me, I'd have suggested Max Webster. I miss them. Kim > Mitchell's solo stuff doesn't interest me. I actually got to see them at their very short-lived reunion tour (I think they did three shows) about five years ago. It remains one of my favourite shows ever. It was as intense as I hoped - heavier, actually. Of course this doesn't make up for the fact that I missed their appearance at Victoria Park Secondary School in 1977... Kim's solo stuff *is* pretty uninspired. I got to meet 'Pye Dubois' a few years back (over coffee and donuts, eh) though I can't reveal how...he was writing some lyrics for Rush at the time and he quoted one of them: Pye: "There's a lake between the sun and the moon..." Tim: "uhhh..." OK - it was no 'cocaine coloured computer cards' but it was still pretty cool. He told me some great stories about Terry Watkinson's numerous acid trips and other Max eccentricities. I'm glad to hear they were not just an Ontario phenom. Some folks I used to know from B.C. laughed at me when I mentioned Max - as if I was saying that B.T.O. (or even The Poppy Family) was my favourite band...they just didn't get it. (Although, B.T.O. were quite fine in a guilty pleasures way). > > The Rheostatics are (were?) pretty special but it's very hard when > > you're a > > little country > > and little bit rock'n'roll ahhh!... > I picked up a Rheostatics CD for a buck or something and I couldn't for > the life of me understand how it ended up in the cheapies bin. Very > enjoyable stuff. Well, they certainly progressed between 'The Ballad of Wendel Clark' and stuff from 'Whale Music' or 'Introducing Happiness'. Melville may be my fave. They got a little too ambitious too quickly though, if that's possible, but they were one of the first bands (post-Stompin' Tom) who actually sang about being Canadian. Patriotism - as you know - is not something we discuss much. (It is only a mild coincidence that we speak of our lil' big country on the eve of our 133rd birthday!) > 'bye, eh? yes, yes we do say 'eh'...but Terence and Philip have distinctly English accents!!! > - -- > Ross Overbury > Montreal, Quebec, Canada It is pretty common for everyone else in the world to leave out the province when referring to a city in Canada: like, 'Edmonton, Canada' instead of 'Edmonton, Alberta'. (final point) I can't believe that Molson has had to reassure everyone that the Canadiens will be 'staying in Montreal'...How on earth could anyone buy them and move them??!!! I think Chretien would be forced to give them a tax break or else get lynched...sheeeesh!! over'n'out, tim, who is warning seattle that randi is coming! ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V9 #177 *******************************