From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V9 #160 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Saturday, June 17 2000 Volume 09 : Number 160 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Napster and gnutella. [Capuchin ] Robyn Tribute CD: if you would be so kind [Bayard ] Re: Napster and gnutella. [Aaron Mandel ] Speaking of "Boingo"... [Bayard ] Randi & Mill Valley [Glen Uber ] the l.a. show = sad randi ["twofangs productions" ] Re: Juliana Hatfield and also covers (0% RH) [HSatterfld@aol.com] Re: Randi & Mill Valley ["The Kielbasa Kid" ] Re: Randi & Mill Valley [Tom Clark ] Claudine Longet (no Robyn) ["Ben" ] amusing [Bayard ] Re: Speaking of "Boingo"... [Capuchin ] Rendezvouz with Randi! ["Crazy Unca' Nick" ] The Fun Ensues. [Capuchin ] Re: Bikelifters of the world [Sebastian Hagedorn ] Re: eb all over the world [Eb ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 12:32:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: Napster and gnutella. On Thu, 15 Jun 2000, Aaron Mandel wrote: > my luck hasn't been nearly as good, with a few exceptions. (the > other day i turned up some of the original Mystic Knights Of The > Oingo Boingo tracks, to my tremendous surprise.) Wow. What'd you get? > it definitely lets you in on some of the harder-to-find stuff by > bands that are popular but make a habit of *occasional* obscurity > (or just put out lots of british CD singles), but i haven't run into > much archival material. Now, Sayer was over on Wednesday and he says that he gets ALL of the material for his radio show from Napster and gets calls every week from people thinking he just has the most amazing record collection of rarities and hard-to-find tunes. He also said Napster has increased the breadth (is that right?) of his musical tastes, but has also made him more selective in artists. He collects very old country music and does a great job with Napster. Just sharing someone else's experience. J. - -- ______________________________________________ J A Brelin Capuchin ______________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 15:46:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Bayard Subject: Robyn Tribute CD: if you would be so kind ..as to look at this page if you have a track on the disc? just trying to make sure i have everything right. http://glasshotel.net/gh/linernotes.htm The formatting is a little rough, but the text should be ok - if not, tell me. we're getting very close. This disc is, dare i say it, a quantum leap over the original (still quite good) release. more info: http://glasshotel.net/gh/glass_flesh.htm thank you for your time and band-width. =b ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 15:51:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Aaron Mandel Subject: Re: Napster and gnutella. On Fri, 16 Jun 2000, Capuchin wrote: > > other day i turned up some of the original Mystic Knights Of The > > Oingo Boingo tracks, to my tremendous surprise.) > > Wow. What'd you get? "Don't Go In The Basement", "Ballad Of The Caveman", "You Got Your Baby Back" and a live performance of something called "Louise". > He collects very old country music and does a great job with Napster. yeah, Napster makes it very easy to try something new, but you have to have a name to go on. i don't know what it's like in other genres. > Just sharing someone else's experience. that's the Napster way! aaron ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 15:58:48 -0400 (EDT) From: Bayard Subject: Speaking of "Boingo"... Did they do a Budweiser commercial? Sounds like it from this mp3 i found. When (and why) did that happen? - -boingo boy ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 13:05:59 -0700 From: Glen Uber Subject: Randi & Mill Valley Has anyone bought Randi's ticket for the Mill Valley show? If not, I'll pick her up one this afternoon. Let me know. - -- Cheers! - -g- "P.T. Barnum's marketing theories are the cornerstone of pop culture." - --Mark Gloster +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Glen Uber uberg@sonic.net http://www.sonic.net/~uberg ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 17:24:51 EDT From: "twofangs productions" Subject: the l.a. show = sad randi Well, No good way to put this ... And I will try to iron things out with Eddie ... But here is the deal. There was a bunch of money I had - then didn't have. All my money for the month of June disappeared. Also, I'm low on blood - no way! you say ... And, I fell in the middle of an intersection here in Portland, luckily my guardian angel Carole was there to help me, but the event yielded scratches and bruises. So, I used a heating pad on the particularly painful spots. I must have fallen asleep - do not try this at home boys and girls! - and woke up with second degree burns on my tummy. Somehow the heating pad had slipped in a very odd way as I slept. So, at Carole and Natalie's prodding and gentle {? : } insistence, I went to the hospital. The doctor was less than amused, as was I. Second degree burns from a heating pad! that's just craziness ... I'm on antibiotics, and I have to change the wound dressing twice a day ... aren't I just the girl who has never ending fun ; ) So, I may just ride with Eddie to My Unka Nick's house and see the Mill Valley Show and the SanFran show .... instead of making it all the way to L.A. oh ... I'm not allowed to drive ... I should mention that extra crunchy goodness fact ; ) However, I feel terrible because I had promised myself I'd meet all the L.A. fegs. The doctor said "no way are you spending all that time in a car - unless you want to get an even worse infection" ... so I don't think I "can " go to L.A. Unless someone has a brilliant idea ... I feel so bad! I'm so sorry! I suck!!!! But any help, suggestions, declarations of "we don't hate you Randi" would really help. On the way to the doctor again now ... the burn has to be checked every three days. I really suck!!!! Please - write back at .... twofangs@gurlmail.com I had to get *this* account the other night when 'gurlmail' was down. stealing from susan yet again ... love on ya, randi ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 14:35:22 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: the l.a. show = sad randi >There was a bunch of money I had - then didn't have. >All my money for the month of June disappeared. How so?? Eb ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 18:04:55 EDT From: HSatterfld@aol.com Subject: Re: Juliana Hatfield and also covers (0% RH) > Speaking of insufferable waifs, anyone heard the new Juliana Hatfield > album(s)? I haven't. The new Juliana Hatfield albums are conveniently divided up into the two types of songs that she seems to like to do, IMHO. Choose your poison. The one by Juliana Hatfield has a lot of quiet pop songs. The one by Juliana's Pony has a lot of noisy songs with feedback and profanity and stuff. I bought the box set which includes a bonus Police cover tune and some multimedia. It was what I expected. I wouldn't necessarily recommend it to the uninitiated. I am happy that her label is letting her do what she wants. I am not happy that people in Japan get bonus tracks. Regarding cover tunes, I don't know how this fits into this discussion, but doesn't the song have to have been released in the US for you to release it? It is my understanding that the album Original Sin by Pandora's Box was not released in the US in order for the producer, Jim Steinman, to be able to control who could release the songs stateside, i.e. Celine Dion and not Meat Loaf. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 15:46:19 PDT From: "The Kielbasa Kid" Subject: Re: Randi & Mill Valley as stated last week, i've got l.a. and mill valley covered, and the tomster has the rest. 'course now, that l.a. ticket may be up for grabs. though, randi, if it's simply a matter of money, there's *no* problem helping you out there. but it sounds as though your doctor thinks it's *more* than just a matter of money.... what might he or she say about taking the train to l.a.? From: Glen Uber Reply-To: Glen Uber To: My Kind of Peelers Subject: Randi & Mill Valley Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 13:05:59 -0700 Has anyone bought Randi's ticket for the Mill Valley show? If not, I'll pick her up one this afternoon. Let me know. - -- Cheers! - -g- "P.T. Barnum's marketing theories are the cornerstone of pop culture." - --Mark Gloster +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Glen Uber uberg@sonic.net http://www.sonic.net/~uberg ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 15:57:47 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Randi & Mill Valley On 6/16/2000 3:46 PM, The Kielbasa Kid wrote: >as stated last week, i've got l.a. and mill valley covered, and the tomster >has the rest. > Provided "the rest" consists of just the SF show. >'course now, that l.a. ticket may be up for grabs. though, randi, if it's >simply a matter of money, there's *no* problem helping you out there. but >it sounds as though your doctor thinks it's *more* than just a matter of >money.... what might he or she say about taking the train to l.a.? > Southwest Airlines or the United Shuttle are pretty cheap. The flight's only about an hour or so from SJC. - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 21:28:19 -0400 From: "Ben" Subject: Claudine Longet (no Robyn) I don't know if someone already mentioned this, but I am sure they will be re-running it 10000 times again: E! True Hollywood Story - Claudine Longet and Spider Sabich Death in Aspen: The Claudine Longet and Spider Sabich Story Premiere: June 11, 2000 Airs: June 12: 10 a.m., 4 p.m.; June 15: 9 p.m.; June 16: 10 a.m., 4 p.m. Two-time world ski champ Spider Sabich met Claudine Longet in 1972 while participating in a celebrity ski race--and the two quickly became an item. On March 21, 1976, police responded to a frantic call from Spider's house and found him sprawled on the bathroom floor. Police arrested Longet, who claimed she fired a small .22 caliber pistol accidentally. On January 14, 1977, Longet was found guilty of criminally negligent homicide. Interviews include Spider's brother Steve, friends and police investigator Michael Fisher. >I talked to Varese Vintage, earlier today -- the label rep says the >Claudine Longet compilation is selling 60-80 copies a *week*. Total! What's >more, the guy is *happy* with that figure. Heh heh. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 00:16:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Bayard Subject: amusing http://www.thecrocodile.com/images/GrantLeeHitchcock.gif ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 23:15:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: Speaking of "Boingo"... On Fri, 16 Jun 2000, Bayard wrote: > Did they do a Budweiser commercial? Sounds like it from this mp3 i found. > When (and why) did that happen? You know, that sounds really familiar. What did you find? I seem to recall reading about a Budweiser commercial. In the early/mid eighties, Danny was signing them up for all kinds of things... probably just needed the money for his big cocaine habit. J. - -- ______________________________________________ J A Brelin Capuchin ______________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 23:22:32 -0700 From: "Crazy Unca' Nick" Subject: Rendezvouz with Randi! "Ms. Randi" ranted: > 2) Did someone pick me up a ticket for Mill Valley? Aren't you getting my emails Ms. R.? I was starting to think the lines must be down between here and Portland... Sorry to blast the list, but in short, tc has your ticket for GAMH - I have you covered for the Sweetwater. Fear not! As for the rest of you: PLEASE bring your cameras to all these shows. Fame and Fegfotos awaits! (A picture of yourself with Randi definitely wins a spot!) If you're coming to a Bay Area show, I'll see you there! ~N PS I am another deviant who has never ridden a bike in his life. Perhaps Drew and I can start an anti-clic to challenge the human-powered faction... PPS I should have announced the Grand Prize Winners of the "help Nick fix Fegfotos competition". They are: *Chris Gross* *T.G. Quail* *Michael Wolfe* *Jeme "The Cap'" Brelin* I believe I have addresses for all. Thanks and congratulations. "Fabulous" prizes will be on their way ...just as soon as I figure out what they are. ;-) PPPS For those who don't know, the idea behind Fegfotos is to immortalize any occasion when two or more Fegmaniax-ers meet in person. So, with the new tour upon us, *now* is the perfect time to organize to meet up at the show closest to you ...and bring your camera! I'm want to break the 100-Feg barrier. Help me out won't you? PPPPS There is no PPPPS. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Some performers on television appear to be horrible people, but when you finally get to know them in person, they turn out to be even worse" - - H. Allen Smith Find people who are less horrible than they appear: http://www.njaz.com/fegfotos ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 01:17:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Capuchin Subject: The Fun Ensues. OK. In about seven hours, Viv and I embark on our little... um... vacation. The plan is more or less what I spilled a week ago, so I won't bore anyone with more detail. Magritte at SFMOMA is a must for me on this trip, so that'll be worked in. Mark, expect us Sunday or Monday. We'll call several times from Shasta to San Francisco, so you'll be plenty forewarned. If you're not going to be around, Viv and I can work something else out. That's not a problem... but we do want to see you and Viv wants to meet your cats. Nick, I just got a new digital camera today. It's not the fanciest on the market, but the image quality's pretty darned good and it's supported by GNU software, so I'm pleased. I suspect there'll be fegfotos aplenty. Viv and I are going to Ashland, SF, Santa Cruz (Aptos), and maybe someplace else. If you want to meet up, you know where to find us. (Oh, and we're on the bay area list, too, so that might be more convenient.) I'll be carrying my pager the whole time. Go ahead and send text messages to pager@bitmine.net or numbers to 800.537.7858. This is a change from my last trip to SF, so if you think you have that info, you don't. And man o man, my pager number is listed in the AT&T Toll Free directory as belonging to a balloon company in Peurto Rico. I get some of the strangest pages. See some of you in a few days. Byeee. Je. OH, and if any of you in that area remember to send me your contact information in the next day or two, that'll help. I can't find nearly everybody's email and phone numbers. - -- ______________________________________________ J A Brelin Capuchin ______________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 14:42:54 +0200 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: Bikelifters of the world - -- "Andrew D. Simchik" is rumored to have mumbled on Freitag, 16. Juni 2000 14:41 Uhr -0400 regarding Re: Bikelifters of the world: > Great subject line. Thanks :-) > - --- Sebastian Hagedorn wrote: >> that there is a world of difference in the "Bremsweg" (distance it takes >> for a braking vehicle to come to a full stop) between a car doing 20 and > > I don't speak much German so I am continually and agreeably surprised > to find that there are eight-letter words for thirteen-word English > concepts. I just looked up "Bremsweg" and my Langenscheidt gives "stopping distance" as translation. However, that does not necessarily mean that that expression is in common use. What do you think? > Is it true what we used to joke about when determining whether > a user interface could be translated -- that there are also thirteen- > syllable German words for eight-letter English words? I can't name one offhand, but the tendency is certainly there. I think that every language has neat words that express a concept in a very concise fashion. Those words are usually the ones that end up as borrowed words in other languages, e.g. the German Weltschmerz or Kindergarten. But if you do a comparison between languages, you'll find that English is about the "shortest" language there is. Take any novel and compare the English, the German and the French version and you'll find that the English one has the fewest letters, followed by German and the French. Things might look a little different if you were to count syllables instead of letters, because French has so many silent letters in its orthography... > No. It's as weird for me not to know how to ride a bike as it is for > my girlfriend not to know how to drive. OK, that puts it into perspective. Cheers, Sebastian - -- Sebastian Hagedorn Ehrenfeldgürtel 156, 50823 Köln, Germany http://www.spinfo.uni-koeln.de/~hgd/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 11:49:18 -0500 From: JH3 Subject: Re: you think *Robyn* has sales problems? >>Regarding bios, I think the most horrible one I ever received was one for >>Praxis' Transmutation (Mutatis Mutandis). I even liked the album all right, >>but the press bio was even more pretentious than the album title, if you >>can believe that. I thought I still had it around for novelty sake, but I >>can't seem to find it. But, oh, it made Praxis seem like the most landmark >>ideological collective since the United Nations.... >begging the question: if praxis *aren't* the most landmark ideological >collective since the united nations, who *is*? i guess my vote would >go to the Little Rascals. "Praxis", for any of you who by the merest chance aren't well-versed on the history of East-European communism, was a Yugoslav philosophical journal first published in 1964. But it could also (loosely) be described as an "ideological collective," whose basic schtick was "humanist Marxism," communism without totalitarianism, etc... Dissident stuff, you might say. In some respects, it actually *was* the most landmark ideological collective since the United Nations, though IMO that isn't saying much. As Eddie would tell you, the Little Rascals had better TV ratings than the UN and Praxis combined, so their ideas (such as the ethical imperative expressed in the line, "It weren't right to steal that nickel from Alfalfa's lemonade stand, Spanky") probably had much more impact, at least in the West. I guess it depends on how you define "landmark." (The word "Praxis" is actually a Latin-derived term meaning "practical application of learning," or something to that effect. Not in common usage, but hey, I'm sure somebody would point that out if I didn't.) So this is what I'm wondering: Is it possible, Eb, that the bio to which you're referring actually referred to the *Yugoslav* Praxis in some way? Or maybe it's a parody? I'm just curious, I suppose. (How old is/was this record?) Here's my anecdote about band bios: The only one I ever wrote for my own band basically stated, "our goal as a band is to get famous and wealthy, so that we can use our fame to set a bad example for children and blow our enormous gobs of money on wasteful luxury items and suicidal cocaine habits." From that, we got an entire page in Washington's City Paper (this was 1983), and the best review we ever received from anybody, for a *cassette album*! (Not even a particularly good one!) That could be taken to mean that the press appreciates it when you tell them the truth, except that I never did use cocaine. OTOH, I'm hardly a good example for children, and I did just buy a DVD player. Which reminds me: "Storefront Hitchcock" and "Yellow Submarine" are fine reasons for buying DVD players, but to me, the real purpose of DVD is to be able to instantaneously skip to *precisely* the Monty Python bit one is seeking, whenever one durn well pleases. Ah, technology! John "not personally involved in Balkan war atrocities" Hedges ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 14:19:04 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: eb all over the world >since the United Nations....> > >begging the question: if praxis *aren't* the most landmark ideological >collective since the united nations, who *is*? i guess my vote would go to >the Little Rascals. Well, there's the most obvious answer, which coincidentally can be derived by throwing Praxis and the Little Rascals in a conceptual blender: Fat Albert & the Cosby Kids. Now there was a band throwin' down some heady shit. (The Praxis album came out in 1992, JH3. I can't speak about the specifics of the bio, because I don't remember them. I just recall that I was laughing out loud at how ridiculously pompous the text was. It was one huge paragraph, where practically every word was three or four syllables. :)) Eb ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V9 #160 *******************************