From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V9 #141 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Tuesday, June 6 2000 Volume 09 : Number 141 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Storefront Hitchcock ["Marc Holden" ] Re: holy Moses ["Russ Reynolds" ] Re:She's just another blunder ["Russ Reynolds" ] Re: Froggie Went a-Courtin?? ["Stewart C. Russell" ] new address! [Natalie Jacobs ] E! True Stories for Dummies [BLATZMAN@aol.com] I saw Greg Lake peeking out of a hole in Eddie Tews pants, was: Chapman Stick question [Mark_G] Re: E! True Stories for Dummies ["JH3" ] Re: E! True Stories for Dummies ["Andrew D. Simchik" ] Re: E! True Stories for Dummies [ultraconformist ] Re: E! True Stories for Dummies [Eb ] eb all over the world ["The Kielbasa Kid" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2000 15:15:55 -0700 From: "Marc Holden" Subject: Storefront Hitchcock I just noticed a release date of July 5th for Storefront Hitchcock on VHS. I can't wait to finally see it. Now I'll just have to hijack someone's TV and VCR for a while. Marc np--(in randomonium)--A Young Person's Guide to King Crimson; Robyn H.--Eye; Best of the Bonzo Dog Band; the Residents--Refused (the Pilgrimage of Santa Dog Through the Second Millenium); Dan Bern--Smartie Mine (disc 1) "I wrote a song, but I can't read music so I don't know what it was. Every once in a while I'll be listening to the radio and I say, "I think I might have written that." " ---Steven Wright ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2000 21:44:32 -0700 From: "Russ Reynolds" Subject: Re: holy Moses "The Kielbasa Kid" (is this the best Eddie nickname ever or what?) reports: > REUTERS -- Olympic Gold Medalist Edwin Moses died Sunday at his home in > Marina del Rey, following a massive brain haemorrhage. This is one of those "I thought he was dead already" ones. Did he have a close call maybe a year ago? Or am I confusing him with another Olympic track star from the 70s? - -rUss PS: given that the big ones come in threes, will Bob Hope be next or right after that? PPS: You know, there really should have been a slugging first baseman on the Detroit Tigers back in the '30s called "The Kielbasa Kid." But there wasn't. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2000 22:12:24 -0700 From: "Russ Reynolds" Subject: Re:She's just another blunder BLATZMAN thought: > Any thoughts on why "Ruling Class" never made it to a record? Stupid people calling the shots? > Is this song on the greatest hits at least? It's such a great song. Rhyming "shorts off" with "Schwarzkopf" is easily the greatest acievement by any sonwriter of our time. Hitchcock should go straight to the Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame for that feat alone. This song is on the A&M "hits" album if I'm not mistaken. Was it ever even on a 45? I had it on a cassette single (b-side of MOTW) and was never able to locate a copy on vinyl or CD. This song kicks Watch Your Intellegence's ass as the best non-album RH track, IMO. - -rUss. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2000 08:49:12 +0100 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: Froggie Went a-Courtin?? Capuchin wrote: > > As for the most unique words, well, I don't know right now. If I could find the time and inclination, I could build a Robyn corpus here, and provide you all with rivetting information like word counts, frequencies, most-commonly-used phrases, and so on. But I can't. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2000 03:17:46 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: Great Lakes Gnat: >More info on Great Lakes, please. The indie-rock kids on the E6 >list dig 'em, but what do they know? Well, I just heard several discs on the Kindercore label, and Great Lakes was the only one I really liked. I haven't read a thing about this band in print, as yet -- I have no idea whether they're a "buzz band" or the like. I just enjoy the album. Mmmm...imagine Beulah, but instead of being peppy and rocking, it's more like that psychedelic plod you hear on 1967-68 Beatles records. Of course, now you're recoiling in horror, recalling recent Colin Moulding tracks.... Anyway, the sound is a lot cleaner than on some E6 records, which figures because it's another Robert Schneider production. The arrangements are really attractive. Lots of piano and organ, horns, clarinet, flute, banjo...but unlike with many E6 acts, the extra instruments don't have that chaotic, what-the-hell-let's-add-something-else feel. The arrangements are very carefully planned. I'd say this record is a bit more nostalgic-sounding than the usual, too. It's fairly stuck in the '60s, but I tend to forgive that (probably more than I should). Great Lakes is a male trio from Athens, but the album was recorded with Schneider in Denver. There are also the usual guest stars, including a body or two from Neutral Milk Hotel and Of Montreal. It's pretty lightweight, I suppose, but its surface pleasures did grab me. Website: http://thegreatlakes.tripod.com Eb, still wincing over that "Greg Lake" comment ;) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2000 08:27:20 -0700 From: Natalie Jacobs Subject: new address! Hey kids - This is my new work address. (Sorry, I can't be "gnat" here, they won't let me.) The cyberspace.org address still exists, but for the time being I'll only be checking it a couple of times a week, so it's best to write to me here. Cheers! n. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2000 12:09:36 EDT From: BLATZMAN@aol.com Subject: E! True Stories for Dummies I can only speak from my experience, but from what I can tell True Hollywood Stories isn't that good becuase 1) the show isn't prestigious and therefore doesn't have AS MUCH cooperation from people close to the subject matter as Biography. E! did a story on Dorothy Dandridge at the same time I was editing her story at Biography. E! kept using the same photo over and over and over and I thought it was HISTERICAL cause I had access to so much more of her material (I had the pleasure of being the first person to see moving footage of her body being carried out of her house after she died. Everyone thought it was footage of her funeral, but it turned out to be much more). We had so many sources help us, and when you have cooperation from people close to the subject, you're going to get a better show. Biography knew that Halle Berry was doing her Dandridge HBO movie, so they held the Biography for many months so that they could premiere it at the same time as HBO. E! is also a half hour, I believe. If this is true, much of a person's life gets way way way way way way oversimplified, as opposed to Biography, that just tends to simply oversimplify. But Biography has a great reputation for a reason. I will bet they spend A LOT more time in post production than E!. And that means better writing, and better material. The budgets are probably A LOT higher, which means the use of better music as well as more time into the piece. Dave ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2000 10:33:10 -0700 From: Mark_Gloster@3com.com Subject: I saw Greg Lake peeking out of a hole in Eddie Tews pants, was: Chapman Stick question At 10:45 AM 6/2/00 -0700, Jason Thornton wrote: > >>And a big "hello" to the two people who didn't delete this message after >>reading the subject line! > >OK, who's the other one, and what do we win? Busted. I think I want what's behind the curtain. Actually, I "played" the Chapman Stick before Vance "Sharkboy's Not Very Evil Brother" Gloster. Truth be told- he bought mine from me, as reeeeely poorly-played stick did not fit in with the rest of my (less poorly- played) music, although it was the "writing utensil" for at least one ditty. RH content: I am one of the few people in history to play a Robyn Hitchcock song on the Chapman Stick. I was gentlemanly enough to keep it out of the earshot of other people, though. I am technically back to work from my sabbatical today. Woop de freakin' doo doo. Happies, - -markg ps. I am not a fan of LA culture and the smog, but I was rooting for the Lakers last night. It was good for me that Portland only played 36 minutes of basketball- now I can actually watch the finals without wanting both teams to lose. I dislike Scottie Pippin a little more every single year. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2000 13:21:16 -0500 From: "JH3" Subject: Re: E! True Stories for Dummies Dave B. writes: >E! did a story on Dorothy Dandridge at the same time I was >editing her story at Biography. E! kept using the same photo >over and over and over and I thought it was HISTERICAL... Yeah, I *thought* I remembered you saying once that you worked for A&E! I guess this explains why the narrator of the episode on W.A. Mozart kept saying things like, "As the number of musicians in Viennese orchestras were reduced, Mozart's work began to fall sharply in quality..." That's not to say I don't agree, of course. Personally, I think Mozart started going downhill as soon as he agreed to let Tom Hulce play him in the movie version. >The budgets are probably A LOT higher, which means the use >of better music as well as more time into the piece. Huh? I've never heard a Robyn Hitchcock track on ANY episode of "Biography" that I can remember! John "I can't stand E! either - X!, T! and C! are much better" Hedges ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2000 11:45:19 -0700 (PDT) From: "Andrew D. Simchik" Subject: Re: E! True Stories for Dummies - --- BLATZMAN@aol.com wrote: > (I had the pleasure of being the first person to see moving footage of > her > body being carried out of her house after she died. Everyone thought it > was > footage of her funeral, but it turned out to be much more). What an odd use of the word "pleasure." Drew ===== Andrew D. Simchik, schnopia@yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos -- now, 100 FREE prints! http://photos.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2000 14:58:15 -0700 From: ultraconformist Subject: Re: E! True Stories for Dummies >1) the show isn't prestigious and therefore doesn't have AS MUCH cooperation >from people close to the subject matter as Biography. Just as a person who's seen quite a few of both, as I'm kind of a nosy person who loves biographies, autobiographies, and gossip (yes, I watch Behind the Music also, wanna make something of it? :)). The E True Stories seems to vary in length. I could swear that some are an hour and some a half hour. In general they seem to focus a -lot- more on lurid stuff than Biography, often to the exclusion of many other life details, which is sort of frustrating if you're actually interested in aspects of the individual other than their drug habits. I've noticed that weird obsession with ages that someone else mentioned too. Also, the re-enactment stuff is beyond tacky- I assume they do this when they don't have enough real footage/stills to flesh out the story. That being said, I have seen some I thought were well done. The one on Bob Fosse was worth watching. A handful of them are interesting just because they're stories not often told, like the ones about Sal Mineo or Redd Foxx. In general it isn't nearly as good as either Biography OR Behind The Music, maybe because it sits on a fence somewhere in between the two, not quite "prestigious" and not quite unashamedly soap-ish, und zo not quite really anything. Love on ya, Susan ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2000 16:17:54 -0400 From: "elizabeth " Subject: Re: Worst Band Names... - ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: digja611@student.otago.ac.nz >not sure if it's istill up and running, but there used to be an odd >web-site list (The canonical list of weird band names) at >http://home.earthlink.net/~chellec/. I have a feeling this may be an >out-of-date address though (anyone know where it went, and/or if it's still >out there?) The site is down at the moment, but Chelle plans to have it back up in July; it got so much traffic that Earthlink wanted to charge her for her "free" space. She's working on resolving the situation... - -- Elizabeth (formerly elizas33@aol.com) ************ listen to SmartToons Radio at http://www.fringehead.com/smarttoons - -- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2000 15:38:26 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: E! True Stories for Dummies >E! [True Hollywood Story] is also a half hour, I believe. No, it's one hour, and sometimes two. A few details about the Longet episode: http://eonline.com/On/Holly/ Eb PS Another case study from the "almost *anyone* can have a fansite" file: http://members.unlimited.net/~seawatch/home.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2000 22:17:30 PDT From: "The Kielbasa Kid" Subject: eb all over the world speaking of which, when exactly does robyn become eligible for the hall? it is better than Watch Your Intelligence. but i don't think it's as good as: - --Underwater Moonlight (the version that showed up on 1976-81) - --Eight Miles High - --Lobsterman - --Creatures Of Light - --Caroline Says II - --Live Man Die - --Element Of Air - --Surfer Ghost KEN "Too cheap to meter" THE KENSTER ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V9 #141 *******************************