From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V9 #133 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Thursday, May 25 2000 Volume 09 : Number 133 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Warners no more [Bayard ] Re: Warners no more ["brian nupp" ] Re: Warners no more [Aaron Mandel ] RE: Warners no more [Larry Tucker ] Re: Stirring the Political Pot (was : Orwellian assault on the 4th) [Jeff] sweetwater confirmed from the source ["twofangs..aka..randi " ] Re: fegmaniax-digest V9 #132 [digja611@student.otago.ac.nz] New XTC [Natalie Jacobs ] Re: New XTC ["J. Brown" ] Ryko Underwater Moonlight glitch? [Benjamin Lukoff ] Re: Travis? ["J. Brown" ] Re: Ryko Underwater Moonlight glitch? ["brian nupp" ] Re: New XTC [Tom Clark ] eb all over the world ["Repent!, Inc." ] Re: Ryko Underwater Moonlight glitch? [Benjamin Lukoff ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 14:55:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Bayard Subject: Warners no more I've confirmed that Robyn and WB are no longer linked. No matter - I bet he makes more money pressing CD's on his own (not to mention spiffy tomato pens! Mine really livens up a dull meeting.) I'm told RH is "completely fine" about it all and is actually looking forward to the mini-tour, the time off, finishing the book and just generally doing what he does as always. =b ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 15:14:44 EDT From: "brian nupp" Subject: Re: Warners no more How much more could've Warner really promoted him? His 20+ years of reputation is the best marketing he has. I think he's done doing music video's (too bad, some of them were pretty cool). I'm sure Warner helps with promoting new stuff, but how much more effective are they than any other record company for an artist like Hitchcock? I don't think Robyn will see any decline in sales because he's no longer with Warner. Brian (who refuses to buy any non-Warner Hitchcock releases) Nupp >From: Bayard >Reply-To: Bayard >To: The Society of Dark Birds >Subject: Warners no more >Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 14:55:02 -0400 (EDT) > >I've confirmed that Robyn and WB are no longer linked. No matter - I bet >he makes more money pressing CD's on his own (not to mention spiffy tomato >pens! Mine really livens up a dull meeting.) > >I'm told RH is "completely fine" about it all and is actually looking >forward to the mini-tour, the time off, finishing the book and just >generally doing what he does as always. > >=b > > ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 15:45:40 -0400 (EDT) From: Aaron Mandel Subject: Re: Warners no more On Wed, 24 May 2000, brian nupp wrote: > I don't think Robyn will see any decline in sales because he's no > longer with Warner. and contrariwise, i can't imagine how much Warner thought they would be able to increase his sales. (*some*, certainly, but not much.) were they really thinking that they'd give him two albums to come up with "Back That Ass Up" and then give him the boot if it didn't happen? and if the opinions on the list are any indication, they would have thought he made at least ONE great album while on Warner, even if they couldn't agree which one it was. a ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 16:24:22 -0400 From: Larry Tucker Subject: RE: Warners no more | -----Original Message----- | From: Aaron Mandel [mailto:aaron@eecs.harvard.edu] | Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2000 3:46 PM | To: brian nupp | Cc: fegmaniax@smoe.org | Subject: Re: Warners no more | | | On Wed, 24 May 2000, brian nupp wrote: | | > I don't think Robyn will see any decline in sales because he's no | > longer with Warner. | | and contrariwise, i can't imagine how much Warner thought | they would be | able to increase his sales. (*some*, certainly, but not | much.) were they | really thinking that they'd give him two albums to come up | with "Back That | Ass Up" and then give him the boot if it didn't happen? | | and if the opinions on the list are any indication, they would have | thought he made at least ONE great album while on Warner, even if they | couldn't agree which one it was. Wasn't the only reason Robyn was even signed to Warner was at REM's insistance when they signed their mega deal and threw there weight around to add Robyn on? - -Tucker ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 14:25:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: Stirring the Political Pot (was : Orwellian assault on the 4th) of course, had the bush or reagan administrations wanted to enact this, it would have been a necessary tool in the fight against blah blah blah. the real reason it's hidden is just so they can not tell anyone, not to "sneak" it past the republicans. "Thomas, Ferris" wrote: > One of my libertarian-leaning friends sent me this. While it's got > next to nothing to do with music I thought y'all might like it. The > implications of it scare the crap out of me. > > National Review Online > 5/18/00 9:50 a.m. > > Fourth Amendment Sneak Attack > Reno's outrageous Secret Searches measure. > > By Dave Kopel, of the Independence Institute > > > The Reno Department of Justice is very good at being sneaky. The > DOJ's lobbyists are on the verge of successfully sneaking into law > a provision which will authorize federal agents to stealthily enter > people's homes, search the homes, and not tell anyone. > > The Secret Searches measure is so outrageous that it would have no > chance of being enacted as a bill on its own, when subjected to > public scrutiny and debate. So instead, the DOJ has nestled the > Secret Search item deep inside a long bill dealing with > methamphetimines. The measure is further disguised with the > innocuous title of "Notice Clarification." > > Subject to virtually no public discussion, the Secret Searches item > has already passed the Senate, hidden inside the methamphetimine > giant S. 486. Next week, the House Judiciary Committee will take up > H.R. 2987, the House version of the Senate bill, which also contains > the buried clause on Secret Searches (section 301). The federal > bankruptcy reform bill (which has passed both houses, and is > currently in a conference committee) likewise has the hidden Secret > Searches language. > > If the Secret Searches provision became law, it would apply to all > searches conducted by the federal government, not just searches > involving methamphetimines or bankruptcy. > > When conducting searches, federal agents are currently required to > announce their presence before entering, and to provide an inventory > of any items they take. Because the person whose home or business is > being searched knows about the search, he can exercise his Fourth > Amendment rights, and make sure that the police have a > properly-issued search warrant. He can also see if the search is > being conducted according to the warrant's terms - i.e., the police > are searching only for items authorized by the warrant, they are > searching the right address, etc. > > But under a Secret Searches law, federal police could enter a > person's home surreptitiously, conduct a search, and not tell the > homeowner until months later. > > Even months later, the police would not have to provide an inventory > of "intangible" items which were taken in a search. So if the police > entered your home secretly, and photocopied your diary or made a copy > of your computer hard disk, they would never have to inform you of > their actions. > > Should the Secret Searches item be deleted from the methamphetimine > and bankruptcy bills, it is likely that Clinton will try to sneak the > item into a gigantic budget bill, during the Congressional > Republicans' annual fall appropriations surrender. Take note: In a > previous Congress, Clinton was able to obtain authority for > warrantless wiretaps - which had been defeated after public debate > earlier in the year - by hiding the authority in the year's omnibus > budget bill. ===== "Life is just a series of dogs." -- George Carlin __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 18:52:56 -0400 From: "twofangs..aka..randi " Subject: sweetwater confirmed from the source hey y'all, jut got this in my snail mail * * * * * * * * I do apologize for the delay in getting back to you. Yes, we are adding a show, I myself just got confirmation on info, at Sweetwater on June 22. * * * * * * * * so... it seems like a show is a happenin' You probably all know this already don't you :( Well, I try to be the bearer of good and light...and info ;) randi p.s. - if there's a pic of me on the web, could someone email me privately so *i* can see it? merci :) get your free gURLmAIL at http://www.gURLmAIL.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 15:25:20 -0400 From: lj lindhurst Subject: Are you kidding? Eb invented "The Mouse" back in '62 "When he recorded his zany dance creation "The Mouse", the record=20 sold over a quarter of a million copies in two weeks in New York=20 alone, and along with another Sales record, "Spy with a Pie," became=20 a national chart-topper." >26lr%3D&safe=3Doff&btnG=3DGoogle+Search>. > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 15:39:50 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Travis? On 5/23/2000 7:08 AM, lj lindhurst wrote: >Anyone have this new Travis record, _The Man Who_? Any opinions? Whiny, unsubstantial, melodramatic shit. I would've turned it off halfway through but I felt I needed to hear the whole thing so as to give you a fair review. You owe me 15 minutes of my life back. - -t "It Does Not Rock" c ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 15:40:38 +1200 (NZST) From: digja611@student.otago.ac.nz Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V9 #132 >> Have I not been attention > >I just read this over and just want to say: > >I like apologize way grammar of my be. I not have attention when I writed >it. > >I kiss you! dowe have Roberto Benigni on the list??? Oh and as for "everyone who writes a book is immediately [sic] smart":, could I invoke Godwin's law here by naming someone else who wrote a book and was not necessarily smart? James James Dignan___________________________________ You talk to me Deptmt of Psychology, Otago University As if from a distance ya zhivu v' 50 Norfolk Street And I reply. . . . . . . . . . Dunedin, New Zealand with impressions chosen from another time steam megaphone (03) 455-7807 (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 23:46:39 -0400 (EDT) From: Natalie Jacobs Subject: New XTC Hmmm... initial listen produced a highly positive reaction, but I've been listening to it again in the car and I'm not so sure anymore. On the plus side, there's some really excellent songs, Andy Partridge is full of beans (literally screaming on one track), and there's a rougher feel to the production that's a nice change from the anal, prissy sound they've been favoring for a long time. But on the debit side, Dave Gregory is indeed missed, Andy's still harping about his freakin' divorce, and there's not two, but THREE tedious Colin Moulding songs. And even the best tracks (e.g. "Playground," "The Wheel and the Maypole") are not as interesting or affecting as "River of Orchids" or "Greenman," off the previous album. I agree with my friend Colin's rating - 3 3/4 stars. XTC records rarely grow on me, so I dunno if I'll change my mind. mildly disappointed n. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 00:32:19 -0700 (PDT) From: "J. Brown" Subject: Re: New XTC On Wed, 24 May 2000, Natalie Jacobs wrote: > But on the debit side, Dave Gregory is indeed missed, Andy's still harping I think this albu,m shows that dave was unnecessary. His playing while good was always too glossy and undistinctive. I love Andy's playing its unique and original. > about his freakin' divorce, and there's not two, but THREE tedious Colin > Moulding songs. And even the best tracks (e.g. "Playground," "The Wheel I think the moulding songs are the best he's done inover a decade. Boarded up is a really great song and Standing in for Joe is infectious pop trash! 4 out a 5 fer me! Jason Wilson Brown - University of Washington - Seattle, WA USA BA History '99 - BA Canadian Studies '99 - MLIS Library Science '01 "Did George Perez's work on Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band lead to huge demand for comics based on movies based on songs based on posters?" -Nat Gertler ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 00:33:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Benjamin Lukoff Subject: Ryko Underwater Moonlight glitch? Hello, I just got a sealed copy of the Ryko Underwater Moonlight CD, and the bonus tracks are afflicted with what seems to be some sort of digital distortion. Is this the case on all copies or did I get a bad one? Thanks Ben ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 00:59:46 -0700 (PDT) From: "J. Brown" Subject: Re: Travis? On Wed, 24 May 2000, Tom Clark wrote: > >Anyone have this new Travis record, _The Man Who_? Any opinions? I love it. its radiohead without all the bomabast. i love that melancholy stuff! Is it dadrock? sure but its still great. its not cutting edge or anything but its solid moving stuff. Jason Wilson Brown - University of Washington - Seattle, WA USA BA History '99 - BA Canadian Studies '99 - MLIS Library Science '01 "Did George Perez's work on Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band lead to huge demand for comics based on movies based on songs based on posters?" -Nat Gertler ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 09:55:12 EDT From: "brian nupp" Subject: Re: Ryko Underwater Moonlight glitch? I hate to say it but I think you got a bad one. Mine is fine. Maybe you can send it back? Brian >From: Benjamin Lukoff >Reply-To: Benjamin Lukoff >To: fegmaniax@smoe.org >Subject: Ryko Underwater Moonlight glitch? >Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 00:33:43 -0700 (PDT) > >Hello, > >I just got a sealed copy of the Ryko Underwater Moonlight CD, and the >bonus tracks are afflicted with what seems to be some sort of digital >distortion. Is this the case on all copies or did I get a bad one? > >Thanks >Ben > ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 09:33:37 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: New XTC As a related fyi, for the past few days I've been hearing a sponsorship blurb on NPR from TVT Records. Something along the lines of "This program is brought to you by TVT Records and their new electric release by XTC, ..." I keep thinking they mean "eclectic" though. Carry on, - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 11:20:04 PDT From: "Repent!, Inc." Subject: eb all over the world hitler may not have been the nicest guy in the world; and he surely made a colossal blunder in opening up the second front; but i don't think one could make a very solid argument that he wasn't "smart". sorry for the delay. i kept forgetting to get around to looking this up. from the may-june, 1987 issue of the BOB: My favorite Soft Boys record is the first one, which was done in '77 with Wangbo (Alan Davies), the old guitarist. It's been re-released with a, sort of, bright-green cover. I think that's brilliant. I love that. I think I've said all this before. I really can't find anything new to say about these records. I think they're good. How did this release come about? Well, it's a semi-bootleg. The contract doesn't really exist for it anymore. We never got paid for it by the guy that put it out -- only by the distributors. And the guy that put it out is a crook. He paid for the recordings of those tracks in '77, with our original guitarist (Wangbo), and I think the Soft Boys was at its best then. My favorite record of my own is probably Black Snake Diamond Role, but I'm also very fond of "Eaten By Her Own Dinner" (the old one, the seven-inch), 'cause I think it's really very unconfined. It does exactly what it likes. There's no attempt to really fit in with anything. Wading Through A Ventilator" and "Vyrna Knowl Is A Headbanger" are virtually the same song. They're the same backing track. I just changed the words to avoid being sued by Vyrna Knowl. But that's not her real name, either. Was she someone you knew? She was a horrible old lady over the road who used to complain when we made too much noise. Although looking back on it, she might have had a right to complain. We did make a lot of noise. That's sort of the way we did it in the Soft Boys. We had no right to make all that noise and disturb the neighbors. But all the other neighbors were, sort of, mature hippies who felt it was unfair to object. Who thought it was cool to be near a band that was rehearsing. She looked a little like Margaret Thatcher, and her husband looked like Jim Hallahan (who was the prime minister at the time). I thought they were really full of meat. Where did you rehearse at the time? In those days we rehearsed in the house where I lived -- the front room of the house I was in, on this, sort of, domestic sidestreet in England. A backstreet in Cambridge. I left there six years ago. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 11:28:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Benjamin Lukoff Subject: Re: Ryko Underwater Moonlight glitch? Damn, I was afraid of that. I should point out that this defect is inaudible when played on speakers at low volume but really really annoying when being listened to through headphones. I think I will be able to send it back -- the dealer I bought it from has a 100% money back guarantee. I guess I'll just have to get another one! Thanks Ben On Thu, 25 May 2000, brian nupp wrote: > I hate to say it but I think you got a bad one. Mine is fine. Maybe you can > send it back? > Brian > > > >From: Benjamin Lukoff > >Reply-To: Benjamin Lukoff > >To: fegmaniax@smoe.org > >Subject: Ryko Underwater Moonlight glitch? > >Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 00:33:43 -0700 (PDT) > > > >Hello, > > > >I just got a sealed copy of the Ryko Underwater Moonlight CD, and the > >bonus tracks are afflicted with what seems to be some sort of digital > >distortion. Is this the case on all copies or did I get a bad one? > > > >Thanks > >Ben > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 14:37:21 -0400 From: overbury@cn.ca Subject: OT - clarinet info? Anyfeg know about clarinets? Please write me off-list. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 17:38:53 -0400 (EDT) From: Bayard Subject: To the scholars of the arcane... Is the song that is always referred to as "More Chinese Boys" actually called "Chinese Boys Again"? I seem to recall reading an interview that stated this. Hal, jonesie, eddie? ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V9 #133 *******************************