From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V9 #122 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Thursday, May 11 2000 Volume 09 : Number 122 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: more copyright current events ["J. Brown" ] The monochrome set. (19% RH) ["brian nupp" ] Re: brew-LA-LA [Jason Thornton ] John Wesley Harding [Bayard ] Re: fegmaniax-digest V9 #121 [digja611@student.otago.ac.nz] RE: sigh [Gene Hopstetter ] eb all over the world ["Repent!, Inc." ] RE: sigh [Tom Clark ] Re: fegmaniax-digest V9 #121 [DDerosa5@aol.com] Re: Limey Communists! ["matt sewell" ] Re: Limey Communists! ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Re: brew-ha-ha ["Stewart C. Russell" ] [0% rh] "CD quality" MP3s ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Re: ID this song ["Matt Browne" ] Re: [0% rh] "CD quality" MP3s (warning: may be boring!) [overbury@cn.ca] Meesa scared now... ["Thomas, Ferris" ] Re: The Tengzo Rob Boom Bad Band ["brian nupp" ] Re: fegmaniax-digest V9 #121 [Stephen Buckalew ] Gallagher bros. still tussling -- 0% Robyn, 100% smashed watermelon content ["Scott Hunter McCleary" ] recycle the dead [GSS ] Re: traffic ["matt sewell" ] Re: traffic ["matt sewell" ] Wondering [BLATZMAN@aol.com] Re: Wondering ["JH3" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 13:57:11 -0700 (PDT) From: "J. Brown" Subject: Re: more copyright current events this is too bad but it seems funny that comparitively obscure comic creators like Martin Nodell, Joe simon and Jerry Siegel will have more rights to their work than Madonna. Jason Wilson Brown - University of Washington - Seattle, WA USA BA History '99 - BA Canadian Studies '99 - MLIS Library Science '01 "I was an I now I am a V" -John Linnell ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 17:13:13 EDT From: "brian nupp" Subject: The monochrome set. (19% RH) I know a few of you are into the monochrome set. I used to be really into them a while back, and recently I'm re-discovering how great they were. I just purchased a few of their cd's online. Trinity Row is pretty good, but it was released 5 years ago. Does anyone know if they are still around or are planning to release any more albums? Also I see that their classic record "the lost weekend" is now available on cd as a japanese import. Does any one have this? Are there any bonus tracks on it? $25 is a lot to spend just to have it on cd. Also, yo la tengo shows: Did Robyn perform his #'s solo or with the band? Did he play with them the whole show? Did anyone record it? Brian ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 14:26:11 -0700 From: Jason Thornton Subject: Re: brew-LA-LA At 01:52 PM 5/10/00 -0400, BLATZMAN@aol.com wrote: >To say that the voters of the English requirement are not the ones effected >by the law is just wrong. Everyone in the city is effected. If my kid has >to sit in a class that spends half the time in spanish, I am sure some people >would think that's great. But I think it's not appropriate. By the same token, it is not "appropriate" to force native Spanish speakers to sit in a class in which 100% of the time is spent speaking English. >Tax dollars get >spent on bilingual education. English speakers aren't the only ones paying taxes. In fact, AMERICAN CITIZENS aren't the only ones paying American taxes. >And we are all effected when a city becomes >crippled by a lack of ability to communicate. Agreed. Which is why we should foster communication and bridge gaps whenever possible. For example, we can improve communication between the police department and the public by hiring bilingual officers in predominantly Latino and Asian communities. >Some people act like English is bad. I am simply advocating everyone being >able to communicate. It is not evil. One doesn't suddenly forget their >native tongue. And people don't become proficient in new languages overnight. Americans whose primary, native language IS NOT English should receive education and voter materials and such in the language they best understand. Limiting their ability to participate in the processes of society is even more crippling, discriminatory and divisive. English isn't evil, but the idea that only one segment (or every segment BUT one) of society should bend over backwards to accommodate some notion of universal communication is quite troublesome. Especially if that segment was here in Southern California long before the English speakers came and the Mormons claimed Los Angeles for the United States. >I've been told by my immigrant granparents that "back in the day" people >wanted to learn English. From what I have seen in LA, there is a large >population that resists it. If so, it is only because often it comes at the expense of their own language, culture and access. Wanting to learn English is one thing. Not being able to take a course in mathematics or vote because you can't read English very well is another. Don't get me wrong - I think learning more than one language is a great idea. In fact, I believe the US should be doing more to promote multi-lingualism amongst all its residents. And, everyone of Hispanic origin living in the US would probably be better off learning some English. As would every Caucasian individual in Southern California be better off learning a little Spanish, and possibly at least one Asian tongue. But, much of the voter-approved legislation we've seen in California on these sorts of issues HAS been motivated by racism and bigotry, by the arrogant assumption that white, English speaking culture should necessarily be the prominent driving force of American culture overall. It won't be, in California at least, for very much longer. >We don't have infinite rescources, you know. We do, however, horde and squander a disproportionate amount of them for ourselves. - --Jason "yo no tengo un corazón" Thornton "Only the few know the sweetness of the twisted apples." - Sherwood Anderson ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 20:31:28 -0400 (EDT) From: Bayard Subject: John Wesley Harding It happens that I have an extra live JWH cd... anyone want it? All i ask in return is help with the song titles... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 13:29:07 +1200 From: digja611@student.otago.ac.nz Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V9 #121 I don't think I can remember a pair of digests so completely devoid of interest as the last two: only the Quail's brief surfacing and more joyous notes from the Californication of Randi were there to lighten up the load. I realise that I'm a fine one to talk as far as off-topic subjects are concerned, but I'm seriously beginning to wonder whether some of this English as a prerequisite and the tyranny of the petrolhead talk should be taken off list. Perhaps I'm just bummed [1] that my lyrics quiz (which I realise was nearly as off topic: 2% RH) generated a massive two responses. Oh, and a strange dream the other night - I dreamt I was walking down St Andrew's Street (a central Dunedin street) when, opposite Fresh Freddies (a fish emporium) a Chinese woman said she had what I was looking for! Out of curiosity, I walked down St Andrew's Street the next day, and there, opposite Fresh Freddies, was a new branch of an Asian food shop. I used to go to another branch of the same shop in a different part of the city until it closed down a few months ago. I used to always buy the same things when I was in there - haw flakes and peanut cake. Surprised, I went into the shop, and the woman behind the counter (who was Chinese) recognised me and said "I know what you want - I have just what you're looking for!" and went to get some peanut cake. Only they were out of stock. True, weird but true. James, wondering whether it's time for something surreal to happen. [1] I am using this term in its American sense - in Newzild speak this can mean to indulge in homosexual behaviour. nf - the Republic of Ireland. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 16:31:45 -0500 From: Gene Hopstetter Subject: RE: sigh > From: The Great Quail > > The URL has been working fine for a few days -- of course the very > MOMENT I send a mass e-mailing, it craps out! > I can't hit the site, or resolve its address, either. It's probable that its DNS entry hasn't propagated yet. IIRC, it takes about five days for a new DNS entry to propagate throughout the USofA's host tables. *Killer* domain name, though. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 18:58:45 PDT From: "Repent!, Inc." Subject: eb all over the world oh, i'm quite sure he's lurking merrily. he is, however, a socialist, which *would* make him ineligible. having seen eb's "back-hoe", all i can say is that he'd be fucking KING of peoria were he to move there. <(Aside from sticking English-only Playskool ads all over my Big Wheel.)> rolling on the tarmac laughing my motherfucking ass off. wholeheartedly disagree. here's an even better idea: use your delete button, james. i bought, like, a brick of haw flakes when we were in vancouver for the world's fair in 1986. i betcha if i looked hard enough, i could still find some of them -- nearly fourteen years on. speaking of the 1980s: we're eight days from the twentieth anniversary of mt. st. helens' big boom. i remember that as though it were yesterday. (okay, well, maybe the day before yesterday...) apparently Madonna Of The Wasps was muzak-ed? anybody got a tape of it? better yet, is it in the partridge disco.? "The fact of leaving in tournee with Kimberley which is of my generation and Tim which is ten years old less me makes it possible not to have the impression to be an old greybeard who monkey his master key like Rolling Stones." --Robyn Hitchcock ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 19:05:14 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: RE: sigh On 5/10/2000 2:31 PM, Gene Hopstetter wrote: > I can't hit the site, or resolve its address, either. It's probable >that its DNS entry hasn't propagated yet. IIRC, it takes about five days >for a new DNS entry to propagate throughout the USofA's host tables. I've had it up for an hour or so. - -tc p.s. The web site works, too. ;^) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 02:34:36 EDT From: DDerosa5@aol.com Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V9 #121 yesterday, quail asked << Jeme -- maybe you can tell me why oh why technology does these sort of things? >> I ain't Jeme, but can I recommend the book "Why Things bite back?: Technology and the Revenge of Unintended Consequences"? It's by Edward Tenner. dave ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 09:34:47 BST From: "matt sewell" Subject: Re: Limey Communists! True enough, our "socialist" government gets more and more extreme in the wanting-to-control-everything stakes, and this is reflected in the overall erosion of the few legal rights we have (I'm sure you know we DON'T have the right to silence if arrested)... The thought of MI5 reading my emails isn't really that worrying, as they've been shown up as being really, incompetant - intelligence service is such a misnomer... I guess this email would be read if I added the words Semtex, terrorism, anti-capitalist, sinn fein, riot, guns, anarchist, Ken Livingstone (Yay!) but I'm certainly not about to do that..! Matt >From: "Thomas, Ferris" >Reply-To: "Thomas, Ferris" >To: "the oracle (E-mail)" >Subject: Limey Communists! >Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 15:40:31 -0400 > >In a desperate attempt to break from the Anglo-Fascist rants that have been >going on lately, I'll interject that, "By the end of this year, any e-mail >to or from a friend or business in England can be read by a British >intelligence agent at MI5 headquarters in London." > >Check it out: http://www.csmonitor.com/durable/2000/05/05/p1s1.htm > >Pretty intrusive, if you ask me. > >Do I dare toss two bits into the ring on the arguments of late? Ugh. >Education in one language, yes. One for operating a motor vehicle? >Please. >I would get a bigger hoot out of mandatory re-testing over the age of >sixty, >myeself. >______________________________________ >Ferris Scott Thomas >programmer > >McGraw-Hill Technology Division >195 Scott Swamp Road >Farmington, CT 06032 >860.409.2612 >860.677.5405 (fax) >ferris_thomas@mcgraw-hill.com (email) > >"We keep you alive to serve this ship, >so row well... and live" > - Ben Hur > ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 09:57:57 +0100 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: Limey Communists! "Thomas, Ferris" wrote: > > In a desperate attempt to break from the Anglo-Fascist rants that have been > going on lately, I'll interject that, "By the end of this year, any e-mail > to or from a friend or business in England can be read by a British > intelligence agent at MI5 headquarters in London." Makes a change from all the European e-mail, phone calls and faxes already being intercepted by the US/UK Echelon base at Menwith Hill, Yorkshire... - -- Stewart C. Russell Analyst Programmer, Dictionary Division stewart@ref.collins.co.uk HarperCollins Publishers use Disclaimer; my $opinion; Glasgow, Scotland ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 09:55:29 +0100 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: brew-ha-ha BLATZMAN@aol.com wrote: > > Tax dollars get spent on bilingual education. And what's so bad about that? No civilisation without taxation. > I've been told by my immigrant grandparents that "back in the day" people > wanted to learn English. I have an eldster Russian friend who lived in Phoenix for seven years when he was a teen. He never learnt English then; he never needed to leave the Russian part of town. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 10:05:34 +0100 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: [0% rh] "CD quality" MP3s You might enjoy http://www.r3mix.net/ with its spectacular refutations of most MP3 and audio myths. It also points out a serious flaw in most commercial encoders, and why everyone should use LAME (http://www.sulaco.org/mp3/) instead. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 06:38:05 -0400 From: "jbranscombe@compuserve.com" Subject: The Tengzo Rob Boom Bad Band In answer to Brian's questions. Robyn was on for about a third of the numbers played, which may not sound much, but the show was 2 1/2 hours long, so that puts it in some perspective. Both of his own songs were accompnied. On Flavour Of Night he didn't even play guitar. Sonic Boom, for once, came up with some interesting electronic twitterings as backing, Yo La Tengo also fell in with the atmosphere beautifully. I can't remember if Neil Innes was on the piano at the time (like Robyn he drifted on and off stage. I wish Sonic Boom had stayed off when he went). For the esoteric sect of Robyn-as-piano-god worshippers, he hovered near the keys a few times, and on one occasion really looked like he was going to start playing. But didn't. Ooooh, what a tease. I Wanna Destroy You was Robyn and the Tengos cranking it out. Bliss. Another highlight came during the encore when Robyn did the spoken bits in the Bonzos' Mr Apollo - "Now I am two separate gorillas... (etc)" Brian, if you like The Monochrome Set check The Bonzo Dog Band, if you don't know them already. Btw Neil Innes also did Cheese And Onion, for all the Rutles fans out there. jm 'still smiling' bc PS. One more for the album titles. More specifically, one for James - The Cramps' live album, Rockin'andreelin'inAucklandNewZealand. PPS Surfer Ghost. What were the other two he did in Brighton? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 07:39:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Terrence Marks Subject: ID this song I picked this up recently and I'm trying to find out who it's by or anything else about it. It's an early electronic/synth piece, probably from the early 70s or late 60s. Do any of you know anything about it? http://grove.ufl.edu/~normal/09__Childrens_Carnival.mp3 Terrence Marks Unlike Minerva (a comic strip) http://www.unlikeminerva.com normal@grove.ufl.edu ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 13:37:45 +0100 From: "Matt Browne" Subject: Re: ID this song On 11/05/2000, at 07:39, Terrence Marks wrote: >I picked this up recently and I'm trying to find out who >it's by or anything else about it. It's an early >electronic/synth piece, probably from the early 70s or >late 60s. Do any of you know anything about it? Hi Terrence - That's really interesting! I *definitely* recognise it, but can't remember where from. I have a suspicion: It's probably from something like the Chappell Music Library. I've had to go through shedloads of music library LPs in the past (dating mainly from the late 70s and early 80s)... If you can track down an alternative, shorter version of the track it makes it almost a certainty. - -- Matt Browne ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 09:57:53 -0400 From: overbury@cn.ca Subject: Re: [0% rh] "CD quality" MP3s (warning: may be boring!) On 11 May 00, at 10:05, Stewart C. Russell wrote: > You might enjoy http://www.r3mix.net/ with its spectacular refutations > of most MP3 and audio myths. Some of his "myths" bugged me, and yes, I do appreciate what happens in recording studios because I spent years working in them. I don't mean to discredit his site in general, but he seems to make some very superficial, broad statements that are kind of true. Like: "3. CD doesn't have a low enough signal to noise ratio. The new DVD super audio is a huge improvement. Reality check: CD was invented to be perfect sound without waste." I always thought that the 44.1Khz sampling rate was chosen because it was compatible with the NTSC video recorders used as the first digital recorders. Seems the choice was "perfect". Anybody who thinks the bit depth is "perfect" ought to hear a dithering demo I got from Symetrix. You can hear the bottom end of a slowly decaying signal (bells and crickets) suddenly go "GRITCH" as it drops below the resolution of the converters. The effect is obvious when you boost the volume enough. This is a result of not having enough bits to do the job. And: "4. Equalizers are bad and should not be used. They distort the sound. 'Audiophiles' are rather ignorant when it comes to knowing anything about the process that goes into recording and mastering music." Odd, because I remember fiddling engineers endlessly with microphone positions to reduce the need to introduce equalisation. Phase shifting introduced by equalisation is not desireable. And: "5. Music is recorded much better than boomy movie soundtracks and you must have a better system to produce music at it's best. Reality check (long): Again, "audiophile" ignorance about what occurs "behind the scenes" in the production phase. " True in the strictest sense, assuming you have the kind of money it takes to set up 2 1/2 really good audio systems. I doubt most peoples' home theatre systems are up to this. There's no reason why movie soundtracks shouldn't be just as well-produced as music, but not many of us can afford to hear justice done to both. And no, I'm not the sort of guy who believes $100 oxygen-free cables make any appreciable difference. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 10:58:08 -0400 From: "Thomas, Ferris" Subject: Meesa scared now... http://members.xoom.com/jarjarmahir/index.htmlaa ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 11:14:27 EDT From: "brian nupp" Subject: Re: The Tengzo Rob Boom Bad Band Thanks for the info! Flavour of Night sounds like it was a pretty unique performance. I like little tricky sounds in the background. I'll check out the Bonzo Dog Band! BRian >From: "jbranscombe@compuserve.com" >Reply-To: "jbranscombe@compuserve.com" >To: tango with tengo >Subject: The Tengzo Rob Boom Bad Band >Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 06:38:05 -0400 > >In answer to Brian's questions. Robyn was on for about a third of the >numbers played, which may not sound much, but the show was 2 1/2 hours >long, so that puts it in some perspective. Both of his own songs were >accompnied. On Flavour Of Night he didn't even play guitar. Sonic Boom, for >once, came up with some interesting electronic twitterings as backing, Yo >La Tengo also fell in with the atmosphere beautifully. I can't remember if >Neil Innes was on the piano at the time (like Robyn he drifted on and off >stage. I wish Sonic Boom had stayed off when he went). For the esoteric >sect of Robyn-as-piano-god worshippers, he hovered near the keys a few >times, and on one occasion really looked like he was going to start >playing. But didn't. Ooooh, what a tease. I Wanna Destroy You was Robyn and >the Tengos cranking it out. Bliss. > >Another highlight came during the encore when Robyn did the spoken bits in >the Bonzos' Mr Apollo - "Now I am two separate gorillas... (etc)" > >Brian, if you like The Monochrome Set check The Bonzo Dog Band, if you >don't know them already. Btw Neil Innes also did Cheese And Onion, for all >the Rutles fans out there. > >jm 'still smiling' bc > >PS. One more for the album titles. More specifically, one for James - The >Cramps' live album, Rockin'andreelin'inAucklandNewZealand. > >PPS Surfer Ghost. What were the other two he did in Brighton? ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 11:20:20 -0400 From: Stephen Buckalew Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V9 #121 #2 is The Hoodoo Guru's....."Like Wow, Wipeout".. (not sure if that's the name...) Welcome back Quail! Oh....and You Are *All* a Bunch of Racists .....I feel better now oh.... and "Hitler blah blah something or other...." S.B. *************************************************************** "...isn't it good to be lost in the wood..."--Syd Barrett *************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 08:21:33 -0700 From: "Scott Hunter McCleary" Subject: Gallagher bros. still tussling -- 0% Robyn, 100% smashed watermelon content Maybe it's just the name. ;-) http://www.apbnews.com/media/celebnews/2000/05/09/gallagher0509_01.html - ---------------- Sent from a WebBox - http://www.webbox.com FREE Web based Email, Files, Bookmarks, Calendar, People and Great Ways to Share them with Others! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 11:32:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Aaron Mandel Subject: Re: traffic On Wed, 10 May 2000, matt sewell wrote: > Otherwise, I guess the world is a slightly more racist, bigoted, > self-obsessessed, money-worshipping shithole than I thought is was... er... well, that's possible, now, isn't it? i mean, the smaller the scale, the better a guide personal experience is. contrariwise, the world could easily be more racist than you think it is, or less racist; the same applies to me and the monkey and everyone else who's posted to this thread. we're all just trying to get by on what understanding we have. a ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 10:58:12 -0500 (CDT) From: GSS Subject: recycle the dead > *IF* the United States *were* to have an official language, it should > probably be a "Native" American language, like say Sioux. Or maybe even Inuktitut. > > The problem is only compounded by the number of selfish single drivers who > commute around town in incredibly resource wasteful SUVs. That can only stand if you NEVER use a vehicle powered by internal combustion that burns gasoline, yourself. It's kinda like saying - 'yeah but I only kick my mom in the head twice a week'. Not all SUV's are incredibly wasteful. There are some small ones that are much more efficient than the Suburbans or Excursions or Blazers or Land Rovers etc... But still, if you don't walk, bike or use P.T. exclusively then you are blowing smoke. Then there is always the ones that say, "but I live 37 miles from work so I have to drive my subaru, geo, saturn, celica or whatever everyday and you should sell your Bronco II and get a car like mine." Well, if it really bothered these folks then they would move closer to work or get a job closer to home and walk. People in the US should not be forced to learn English. But learning the language of the natives in whatever country you end up in is probably best. greg 'yeah, but this one's a militant libertarian' shell "don't it always seem to go that you don't know what you've got till its gone they paved paradise and put up parking lot" - jm ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 17:09:00 BST From: "matt sewell" Subject: Re: traffic >On Wed, 10 May 2000, matt sewell wrote: > > > Otherwise, I guess the world is a slightly more racist, bigoted, > > self-obsessessed, money-worshipping shithole than I thought is was... > Aaron: >er... well, that's possible, now, isn't it? i mean, the smaller the scale, >the better a guide personal experience is. contrariwise, the world could >easily be more racist than you think it is, or less racist; the same >applies to me and the monkey and everyone else who's posted to this >thread. we're all just trying to get by on what understanding we have. > >a Ah yes, but I am actually a space-dwelling giant who has been studying the world under a microscope... looks like a pretty small-scale world from here... Maybe I need one of those stereo microscopes - perhaps my lack of personal experience of the world is because I have been seeing everything in mono. Also, who's this monkey you speak of - how racist does he/she think the world is, and if he/she found that the world was more racist than he/she thought it was, well, it wouldn't be? ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 17:18:29 BST From: "matt sewell" Subject: Re: traffic > > Otherwise, I guess the world is a slightly more racist, bigoted, > > self-obsessessed, money-worshipping shithole than I thought is was... > Aaron: >er... well, that's possible, now, isn't it? i mean, the smaller the scale, >the better a guide personal experience is. contrariwise, the world could >easily be more racist than you think it is, or less racist; the same >applies to me and the monkey and everyone else who's posted to this >thread. we're all just trying to get by on what understanding we have. > >a Oh, and another thing... Thanks for cutting my (rather overblown) rhetoric down to size! I hope to bloody well do the same for you one day! ;-p Matt ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 14:02:24 EDT From: BLATZMAN@aol.com Subject: Wondering Just a thought, but if it is is the law to carry auto insurance, why isn't it also the law to be able to communicate your insurance info in case of an accident? On a different note, I have been listening to The Smiths a lot lately, and I was wondering if anyone knew of a list for them or where I could find out what the members were doing. Johnny Marr was one of my favorites in the 80's, and I just can't believe he's dropped out of the scene I think I missed some posts. Someone said there has been a lot of fascist ranting here and I haven't seen any of that. Dave ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 13:59:06 -0500 From: "JH3" Subject: Re: Wondering >Just a thought, but if it is is the law to carry auto insurance, why isn't it >also the law to be able to communicate your insurance info in case of >an accident? Isn't that what "proof-of-insurance" forms are for? Those are usually printed in English! >On a different note, I have been listening to The Smiths a lot lately, and I >was wondering if anyone knew of a list for them or where I could find out >what the members were doing. Johnny Marr was one of my favorites in the >80's, and I just can't believe he's dropped out of the scene Actually, Johnny Marr has his *own* list: http://www.egroups.com/group/marr For a good Smiths site, I recommend http://shoplifters.morrissey-solo.com/ because it's very, very clean. Not quite as nice-looking as Quail's new site, though. AND I'd just like to point out that the guy who made the "Morrissey Handwriting Font" actually asks for a *$5 regisration fee* from people who use it! Like he's ever going to get it! (Still, aren't you all glad I'm not such a mercenary sort?) >I think I missed some posts. Someone said there has been a lot of >fascist ranting here and I haven't seen any of that. Hey, it wasn't me! John H. ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V9 #122 *******************************