From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V9 #114 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Friday, May 5 2000 Volume 09 : Number 114 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Elian's back! [Bayard ] Re: Elian's back! [Christopher Gross ] more on "FEG" [Bayard ] Re: inifinity guitar (no Robyn) [Ben ] Re: Griffin at the 12-bar ["brian nupp" ] Re: Reap ["Scott Hunter McCleary" ] Re: inifinity guitar [Mark_Gloster@3com.com] Re: inifinity guitar (no Robyn) [noe@corky.net] Zounds! [Michael Wolfe ] Re: inifinity guitar (no Robyn) [Jonathan Moren ] Kids come running for the great taste of Apples [Natalie Jacobs ] Re: Britpop night in DC, Sat. May 6 ["Stewart C. Russell" ] show & tell [BLATZMAN@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 13:18:15 -0400 (EDT) From: Bayard Subject: Elian's back! http://www.i-mockery.com/true/ =b ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 13:51:14 -0400 (EDT) From: Christopher Gross Subject: Re: Elian's back! Speaking of which, this news blurb was in yesterday's issue of The Onion: "47 Punk Bands Change Name To 'The Miami Relatives.'" - --Chris ps: Steve, what kind of heartless person doesn't recognize each sock's individuality? ______________________________________________________________________ Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 13:45:14 -0400 (EDT) From: Bayard Subject: more on "FEG" "Lastly, there is the subject of the fegs. Robyn explains: 'We had fegweevils, fegballs, fegmobile, fegism. "FegMANIA!" is really like putting two wild adverbs together and watching them mate, except neither of them are adverbs.'" - --_Fegmania!_ liner notes (1995 Rhino reissue) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 May 2000 14:00:30 -0400 From: Ben Subject: Re: inifinity guitar (no Robyn) > Have you ever done that? I can't understand how that would work. > A wah-wah is just a preamplifier with a narrow-band filter. If you > turn it backwards you get the input to the wah from the amp (so > you'd feed the wah-wah a bit of line noise) and you'd drive the guitar > pickups with the output of the wah (low-level filtered noise). There'd > be no signal path from the guitar to the amp. > Yes I have done it, but I don't know why or how it works! As for no signal from the guitar to the amp, that is correct. The guitar doesn't produce any sound, all you hear is a constant tone coming from the amp which I guess is being produced by the amp recieving some noise from the wah-wah. The guitar, or rather the volume knob, just becomes a controller for the pitch of this constant tone. Hmm all this guitar techie talk combined with references to proggie guitarists is driving my EB-bow crazy!!!! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 May 2000 15:36:20 EDT From: "brian nupp" Subject: Re: Griffin at the 12-bar Let us "new worlders" know what happens tonight! >From: "matt sewell" >Reply-To: "matt sewell" >To: fegmaniax@smoe.org >Subject: Griffin at the 12-bar >Date: Thu, 04 May 2000 17:13:58 BST > >Greetings to all, > >those of ye fegs in the big smoke may like to know Sid Griffin is doing an >accoustic session in the 12-bar tonight. >I reckon there's a good chance they'll be joined by a very tall (apparently >even bigger in America!) guest (also appearing on their album) >Anyway, if anyone goes, let us know! > >Cheers! > >Matt >________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 13:00:56 -0700 From: "Scott Hunter McCleary" Subject: Re: Reap Wow -- I hadn't thought about Bob Homme for years. I grew up south of the border, but close enough to know who he was. My little sister really liked his show for a number of years. I recall his voice most of all. Who's next? Billy Van? - ---------------- Sent from a WebBox - http://www.webbox.com FREE Web based Email, Files, Bookmarks, Calendar, People and Great Ways to Share them with Others! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 16:05:18 -0700 From: Mark_Gloster@3com.com Subject: Re: inifinity guitar #1: Thanks Ross! Package received! >Anybody have any experience with the Kramer sustainer? I have one of them. It is very good at sustaining notes, and unlike the ebow, it sustains chords. It doesn't attack as well as the ebow. Fernandes is still marketing a sustainer using the same technology as the Kramer, I believe. I have found that using microphonics, a dual coil pickup, a very strong preamp (tube best), and a good cabinet, amazing- and more creative- sustain results may be achieved by left hand technique and moving the guitar around in front of the speaker. This creates "microphonic feedback" wherein the guitar and the amp are creating a feedback circuit to boost the signal. The energy also drives the strings. Some frequencies are emphasized and strings are driven with placement and rotation of the guitar and with left hand note/ chord selection. Adrian Belew is a master at this. We have whined before about the stunted effort to put the guitar Gizmotron on the market. It seems that it would be just about a perfect device (if they hadn't eaten strings and the wheels and batteries, etc.) An ebow works on one string at a time and unless you are doing a tribute to seventies acts seems like a very specialized doohicky that most people wouldn't use much. An EB-bow is a different matter, altogether. (all: "An EB-bow is a different matter.") >> (Randi is one day away from California!) >Travelogue! Travelogue! We'll squeeze one out of her! Happies, - -markg ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 May 2000 02:28:38 +0200 From: noe@corky.net Subject: Re: inifinity guitar (no Robyn) overbury@cn.ca wrote: > Have you ever done that? I can't understand how that would work. > A wah-wah is just a preamplifier with a narrow-band filter. If you > turn it backwards you get the input to the wah from the amp (so > you'd feed the wah-wah a bit of line noise) and you'd drive the guitar > pickups with the output of the wah (low-level filtered noise). There'd > be no signal path from the guitar to the amp. wha wha is a pedal version of a Tone knob. it filters open and close in a linear method. from hi to low and back, unlike a normal tone control (and more like an EQ control) it's slightly amplifies the tones not filtered, but this is not as a pre amp but just in order not to loose drive when some of the basic tones are filtered, by changing the filters range the overtones (harmonics) changes and the semi false affect of a pitch (tremolo like) is given. now. like every device it can be pluged the wrong way and do the opposite thing. instead of playing from full range and cutting highs untill the low is what remains it goes from full range and cut the low frequencies leaving only the hi (treble) and that feeling of like pitch change. the signal is not bound by the arrows and goes anyway you put it along the wires. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 May 2000 21:08:57 +0000 (GMT) From: Michael Wolfe Subject: Zounds! A Concert Review In Three Parts or: Leave it to Sleater Dateline: 5/3/2000, Crystal Ballroom -- Portland, Oregon I probably drank a little bit more beer before the show than I should have on 4 hours of sleep. But the plain and simple fact of the matter is, Gene Defcon just aren't a very good band. The lead singer sounds like Snagglepuss of Hanna-Barbara fame. Their songs are annoying. They make liberal and irritating use of a drum machine. So I slept through them. Thank god for ear plugs. I did wake up in time for Portland's own Number 2. They've been panned on this list before, and I can definitely see how they aren't everybody's thing, but I enjoyed them. They don't do much to expand the whole rock n' roll guitar-bass-drums idiom, but they are *tight*, and their songs are tuneful. As Michael Keefe put it, they're the kind of band that you might see in the background of a film to denote that the scene was set in an "alternative" music club somewhere. Which is definitely true, but odd, because they have a sort of generic air about them. Generic alternative? Wouldn't that be an oxymoron? Anyway, we both enjoyed the band, and did not find them at all painful to sit through. I might even go as far as to deliberately go to one of their gigs sometime, just as long as the beer was good where they were playing. If it helps, they are composed of former Heatmiser members, and their sound is very much like the parts of Heatmiser that don't sound like they came from Elliott Smith. But so then, after an enjoyable conversation with Mr. Keefe, the reason that the two of us were sitting through these acts took the stage. The three of them -- Carrie, Corin, and Janet -- carried themselves with a steely confidence and easy camaraderie, and to the roar of the sold-out crowd, Sleater-Kinney ripped out 5 in a row from their 2 most recent albums before blistering us with a searing "Words & Guitar." The first song of the evening was "Ballad of a Ladyman," and I didn't need any further convincing to know that my next music purchase will be All Hands on the Bad One. If I absolutely had to criticize last year's The Hot Rock, I would say that the band feels ever-so-slightly detached and removed. That's certainly a valid artistic choice, and some of the songs benefit from that kind of coolness. But here in concert, those songs got the fire and passion that I feel is more suited to them, particularly "The End of You," which just roared. Throw in a couple of choice covers ("White Rabbit" and "Fortunate Son"), and you've got a concert for the ages. Other highlights included "All Hands on the Bad One," "One More Hour," "Little Babies," and "#1 Must have." When the show ended, I told Michael that I thought that we had quite possibly just seen the perfect Sleater-Kinney show. It was 12:30 when the concert ground to a halt, and in spite of my sleep deprivation and my perhaps over-indulgence in hopped beverages, I was buzzing with excitement. - -Michael Wolfe ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 May 2000 03:02:06 +0200 From: Jonathan Moren Subject: Re: inifinity guitar (no Robyn) At 02:28 2000-05-05 +0200, you wrote: >now. like every device it can be pluged the wrong way and do the opposite >thing. Ah yes...samplers, guns, shavers, coffee percolators, diving-boards... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 21:19:48 -0500 From: steve Subject: HMV XTC Deal (NR) HMV (www.hmv.com) is offering a "I'm The Man Who Murdered Love" single with Wasp Star pre-orders. It has the demos for ITMWML and Colin's unreleased "Didn't Hurt A Bit". - - Steve _______________ We're all Jesus, Buddha, and the Wizard of Oz! - Andy Partridge ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 01:23:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Natalie Jacobs Subject: Kids come running for the great taste of Apples On Thu, 4 May 2000 DDerosa5@aol.com wrote: > It's a great great song album, though not a great albumin entirety, like the > Neutral Milk Hotel. NMH are heavy (man), the Apples are light. The new album is super happy and fun and goofy and cool. I particularly like the white-boy funk song ("The Bird You Can't See") and the songs that feature the trombone/flute duo. I got the new Of Montreal too, and it's pretty scattershot - it's a singles comp - but there's a good Kinks cover and a somewhat Robynesque narrative called "Ira's Brief Life as a Spider." OK, so I find out that Vic Chesnutt and Kristin Hersh, the Minders and Elliott Smith, and the Apples are all playing here within a week of each other, and then Robyn and Grant Lee Phillips are playing here a couple of weeks later. Is life sweet or what?? If only I had a job. n. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 May 2000 22:57:44 PDT From: "Repent!, Inc." Subject: eb all over my nutsack sleater-kinney are god. can't really add much to what michael said. they left yet another venue a smoldering ruins. (but they're slotted to play the same venue tomorrow night....) my b-52s cover dream didn't quite come true, but, as with last evening, they played White Rabbit and Fortunate Son tonight. White Rabbit was awesome, Fortunate Son was BLISTERING. i might even be inclined to say they'd redefined the song -- if it weren't such a cliche. all yous out there in fegLAND, get your asses to see this band when they play your town!! (this means you, joel.) and kudos to the girls for keeping the prices down: eight bucks to get in, ten for the cd (plus they throw in a poster), and ten for the t-shirt. (not to mention it was an all-ages show. i'm wondering if they refused to play the showbox unless they'd book a 21+ show, and an all-ages show. wouldn't doubt it.) and i *finally* managed to tape a sleater-kinney show without missing the sidebreak. AND they're playin' again tomorrow night! life is good. "The fact of leaving in tournee with Kimberley which is of my generation and Tim which is ten years old less me makes it possible not to have the impression to be an old greybeard who monkey his master key like Rolling Stones." --Robyn Hitchcock ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 May 2000 09:39:49 +0100 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: Britpop night in DC, Sat. May 6 Christopher Gross wrote: > > Now, what exact kind of "Britpop" are we talking here? A very, very loose definition. I would have to slough off my human guise and slaughter anyone who described Radiohead as 'BritPop'. That might just be the basil talking, though. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 May 2000 09:55:07 +0100 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V9 #111 DDerosa5@aol.com wrote: > > << Speaking of apples, anyone heard the new Apples in Stereo? >> > > It's a great great song album, though not a great albumin entirety Like the curate's egg? I'm sorry, I can't resist humour related to eggs, no matter how tenuous. Stewart (please excuse the punchy manner. I just had 60% of the already critically understaffed computer team resign on Tuesday. We're in the poo. Also, I spent a couple of hours proff-reading this morning, before cycling madly [not through Honiton Clyst] to work. That, and The Flaming Lips gig I was wanting to go to has sold out.) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 May 2000 10:42:33 +0200 From: noe@corky.net Subject: Re: inifinity guitar (no Robyn) Jonathan Moren wrote: > At 02:28 2000-05-05 +0200, you wrote: > > >now. like every device it can be pluged the wrong way and do the opposite > >thing. > > Ah yes...samplers, guns, shavers, coffee percolators, diving-boards... and of course toilet bowls... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 11:18:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Bayard Subject: who wants to do the honors? Dave Olstein, a quasi-feg (proto-feg?) (by which i mean i'm not sure if he's actually on the list) is goign to be bringing his DAT gear and such down to the bottom line on june 16th and try and tape the two robyn sets. Only potential snags are: 1) he has tickets to a play that night so someone else will need to take charge of the recorder; and 2) the club's manager, one Mr Pepper, is reportedly a moody fellow who sometimes can be hard-nosed about taping (even when the performer, one Mr Hitchcock, is perfectly happy about being recorded.) so do we have any volunteers to help out with this? I hope you stealthy types will still do your secret thing too. This is just for the soundboard hookup and/or mic stand stuff. by the way, is metallica the first band in history to sue their fans? how long until weird al does _plaster of muppets_? and what's up with that quote "it's sickening to see our art traded like a commodity instead of sold for big profits like the art that it is"? =b ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 13:28:18 EDT From: BLATZMAN@aol.com Subject: show & tell Since we all love to share our artistic accomplishments, I am proud to say that my television advertisements will be up all over the country this month. I have produced a series of television spots for Karastan Carpets and Rugs. This month, I am up pretty heavily in New York, New Jersey, Sarasota, Chicago, Baltimore, Southern Cal, Maitland, Cleveland, Michigan, Texas, and more, I can't think of them. Anyway, it's for National Karastan Month. They are individually tagged for local dealers! All Florida and Arizona Fegs can enjoy my continous Robb & Stucky ads (coming soon to Dallas). I wasn't involved in the film shoots. I run the post production arm of the firm so I write and edit the pieces. Dave ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V9 #114 *******************************