From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V9 #109 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Sunday, April 30 2000 Volume 09 : Number 109 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Pitchfork Review of Cap'n Keegan's latest [blandest] [Chris Gillis ] elian, robyn, penn & canada ["randi..aka..twofangs" ] Re: elian, robyn, penn & canada [Jeff Dwarf ] Re: elian, robyn, penn & canada [Jeff Dwarf ] Re: elian, robyn, penn & canada [overbury@cn.ca] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2000 01:21:45 -0700 From: Chris Gillis Subject: Re: Pitchfork Review of Cap'n Keegan's latest [blandest] > > http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/record-reviews/k/keegan_tim/out-of-here.shtml > > Rating: 7.6 > Anyone who knows me knows that I like really, really sad music. I mean, > I really enjoy sad music. If any review states such, subtract several points for your own opinion of same record, i.e. 4.6-5.6. Your milage may vary..., .chris ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2000 15:19:09 EDT From: MARKEEFE@aol.com Subject: Re: Pitchfork Review of Cap'n Keegan's latest [blandest] In a message dated 4/29/00 1:26:08 AM Pacific Daylight Time, chris@photogenica.net writes: << > http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/record-reviews/k/keegan_tim/out-of-here.shtml > > Rating: 7.6 > Anyone who knows me knows that I like really, really sad music. I mean, > I really enjoy sad music. If any review states such, subtract several points for your own opinion of same record, i.e. 4.6-5.6. Your milage may vary... >> Mine varies tremendously! I'd say it's a 7.2, easy ;-) It's become one of my favorite albums to clean house to (along with the latest Echo and the Bunnymen). Get it! :-) - ------Michael K., fellow mope-o-phile np - Smiths: "Queen Is Dead" (I really am!) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2000 23:16:33 -0700 From: Eleanore Adams Subject: raymond chandler evening I hear Raymond Chadler Evening on NPR this evening during This America Life. they were doing a story about murder mysterys. NPR rocks! eleanore PS for Kiwis...NPR is national public radio in the US ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 03:18:43 -0400 From: "randi..aka..twofangs" Subject: elian, robyn, penn & canada "Wazzup Elian?" say many ... May I ask a question ... would there be all this fuss if the kid was from Costa Rica? Is it simply the fact that Elian is 'Cuban' that the American government has decided they can interfere? There can't be that many countries the U.S. is so officially against ... yes ... no ...? ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ I would love to see as many Robyn shows as possible, so if anyone is going from Portland to SanFran than eventually up to Seattle - please please please let me know. Also - Three Michael Penn / Aimee Mann shows in SanFran I will be around to see, I will be at sharkboy's until May 17th I believe, the Mann / Penn shows are on May 14, 15, and 16th ... Can anyone help me out, even just check if tickets are still available ... Much appreciated as always ... ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ steve mentioned a commercial that is playing ad nauseum here in Canada: > I'm not a lumberjack < > or a fur trader... < > and I don't live in an igloo < {believe me when i tell you i get this _all_ the time.} ............................................ > or eat blubber, or own a dogsled ... < {i do have a friend who owns a dogsled though} ............................................ > and I don't know Jimmy, Sally or Suzy from Canada, < > although I'm certain they're really, really nice. < {people always say: "oh - you're from Canada, do you know my cousin Ross? we are the second largest landmass you know... ... I know our feg-Ross - but that is sheer coincidence } ............................................ > I have a Prime Minister, {PM,} not a President. < {aaaahhhh - how many people outside Canada know we have a PM, know his name, and how he gets elected} ............................................ > I speak English and French, *not* American < {and there is a _difference_} ............................................ > and I pronounce it *about, not a boot* < {people from scotland *do* call it _a boot_ , scotland, not canada} ............................................ > I believe in diversity, *not* assimilation, < {we celebrate the differences in all our cultures - as opposed to the idea of "the big melting pot."} ............................................ > and that the beaver is a truly proud and noble animal. < { yes - the beaver is not the eagle, or the lion, or the bear... ... however ... beavers are resourceful, build and maintain strong dams ... ... they are known for their engineering feats ... ... over time, beavers reinforce bank dens with sticks and mud ... ... they are also important in managing river and wetland habitats ... ... beavers construction of dams, and thus the formation of pools, create habitats for a large number of highly beneficial wildlife species ... ... thank you very much :-} ... btw - it's not like Nebraska doesn't have beavers :-} ............................................ > and it is pronounced *zed* not *zee,* *zed* < {in french 'zee' is pronounced 'zed' hence Canadians say *zed*} {even Canadian Sesame Street teaches the alphabet and we say *zed,* the British do as well, so I guess the origins of *zed* may be British} ............................................ And all this fuss is for what? A beer commercial - Molson Canadian beer. I am Canadian, Randi *what scares you most will set you free* ~ Monsieur Robyn Hitchcock ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 03:37:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Terrence Marks Subject: Re: elian, robyn, penn & canada On Sun, 30 Apr 2000, randi..aka..twofangs wrote: > May I ask a question ... would there be all this fuss if the kid was > from Costa Rica? Within a week, three Haitian boys washed ashore and were returned immediately. There was a brief series of articles about protests in the Haitian community along those lines. Nothing came of it. > Is it simply the fact that Elian is 'Cuban' that the American government > has decided they can interfere? No. The American government has always maintained that it has a right to control immigration. Most countries do the same. The fact that he's Cuban is what got him five months with his great-uncle and is why he's still here. I'm of the opinion that a national government cannot allow itself to be delayed indefinitely. > There can't be that many countries the U.S. is so officially > against ... yes ... no ...? Cuba, North Korea, Iraq, Libya (I think), and maybe a few others. Terrence Marks Unlike Minerva (a comic strip) http://www.unlikeminerva.com normal@grove.ufl.edu ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 00:40:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: elian, robyn, penn & canada "randi..aka..twofangs" wrote: > "Wazzup Elian?" say many ... > > May I ask a question ... would there be all this fuss if the kid was > from Costa Rica? > > Is it simply the fact that Elian is 'Cuban' that the American > government has decided they can interfere? well, it's not the government that's interfering, though many in the legislative branch want to. in a rare moment of Clintonia not making me want to puke, the executive branch is actually trying to help the father retain custody. but if he were from costa rica, there wouldn't be this demented outrage at letting a father raise he own child, rather than turning it over to the nutty drunken uncles and the cousin constantly suffering from the vapors. > There can't be that many countries the U.S. is so officially > against ... yes ... no ...? Cuba, Iraq, ... maybe North Korea or Vietnam. you know, the ones that have kinda embarassed us in the past 45 years. not necessarily the most evil (or only evil) most, just the ones that make us look silly. it's about vanity, not democracy. > ............................................ > > > and I pronounce it *about, not a boot* < > > {people from scotland *do* call it _a boot_ , scotland, not canada} > i've always heard the canadian accent on about is being closer to "a boat" but with the "o" slightly flatter and the "t" sharper and even shorter." but it is different than any of the various american pronunciations (we only have 647 or so dialects and accents here). ===== "Life is just a series of dogs." -- George Carlin __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online and get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 00:40:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: elian, robyn, penn & canada "randi..aka..twofangs" wrote: > "Wazzup Elian?" say many ... > > May I ask a question ... would there be all this fuss if the kid was > from Costa Rica? > > Is it simply the fact that Elian is 'Cuban' that the American > government has decided they can interfere? well, it's not the government that's interfering, though many in the legislative branch want to. in a rare moment of Clintonia not making me want to puke, the executive branch is actually trying to help the father retain custody. but if he were from costa rica, there wouldn't be this demented outrage at letting a father raise he own child, rather than turning it over to the nutty drunken uncles and the cousin constantly suffering from the vapors. > There can't be that many countries the U.S. is so officially > against ... yes ... no ...? Cuba, Iraq, ... maybe North Korea or Vietnam. you know, the ones that have kinda embarassed us in the past 45 years. not necessarily the most evil (or only evil) most, just the ones that make us look silly. it's about vanity, not democracy. > ............................................ > > > and I pronounce it *about, not a boot* < > > {people from scotland *do* call it _a boot_ , scotland, not canada} > i've always heard the canadian accent on about is being closer to "a boat" but with the "o" slightly flatter and the "t" sharper and even shorter." but it is different than any of the various american pronunciations (we only have 647 or so dialects and accents here). ===== "Life is just a series of dogs." -- George Carlin __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online and get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 11:01:20 -0400 From: overbury@cn.ca Subject: Re: elian, robyn, penn & canada Randi said: [elian and penn snipped] > steve mentioned a commercial that is playing ad nauseum here in Canada: > > and I don't live in an igloo < ... but Montreal streets were covered in snow about 10 days ago. The trees are still bare, and the tulips aren't open yet. I might have had crocuses this week, but marauding squirrels nipped the buds before they could bloom. I haven't seen any elsewhere in my neighbourhood. > ............................................ > > > I have a Prime Minister, {PM,} not a President. < > > {aaaahhhh - how many people outside Canada know we > have a PM, know his name, and how he gets elected} I've got to admit, when the TV stations are going on about "super Tuesday" and "electoral college" it's indistinguishable from Swahili to me. > ............................................ > > > I speak English and French, *not* American < > > {and there is a _difference_} If American isn't English, I doubt Quebecois could pass as French. Not to mention Acadien! > > ............................................ > > > and I pronounce it *about, not a boot* < > > {people from scotland *do* call it _a boot_ , scotland, not canada} There are those in some small Northern towns who would say something approaching "a-boat". It's not big-city Canadian English. Jane Fonda uses this 'Bob & Doug McKenzie' accent in Agnes of God, where she plays a Montreal doctor. Kind of like hearing a New York doctor with an Adirondack backwoods accent. Now Ontario accents are *funny*! 'Berry' for 'Barry' -- tee hee hee! Oh yes, the web site says "I drink 'pop' not 'soda'. Here in Montreal we drink 'soft drink', not 'pop' or 'soda'. I'll get on the soapbox about one issue -- people from the USA often remark on the Canadian use of 'eh'. I won't deny that it's over-used here. It's used like "y'know". What gets me is I've been approached over this as if its use is some dark mystery to Americans, who do use it, but without such shocking regularity. I read it in American literature and hear it on American movies and TV, but I still get asked "what does it mean?". That being said, I know many Canadians who can't get two sentences out without at least one "eh". > > ............................................ > > > I believe in diversity, *not* assimilation, < > > {we celebrate the differences in all our cultures - as opposed to the > idea of "the big melting pot."} Sadly, this offer is void where prohibited by law (Quebec). > ............................................ > > > and it is pronounced *zed* not *zee,* *zed* < > > {in french 'zee' is pronounced 'zed' hence Canadians say *zed*} > {even Canadian Sesame Street teaches the alphabet and we say *zed,* the > British do as well, so I guess the origins of *zed* may be British} The USA is the only country where this letter is called 'zee'. I think I remember reading some quote from a revolution-era American about fostering an American language. That may have been the idea behind the invention of lite spelling and the letter 'zee'. I think it was done at least in part to create a more American identity. Did anybody get all the way down here? Wow! - -- Ross Overbury Montreal, Quebec, Canada ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V9 #109 *******************************