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fegmaniax-digest        Sunday, April 16 2000        Volume 09 : Number 098



                               Today's Subjects:
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  eb's dictate all over the world    ["Capitalism Blows" <etews@hotmail.com>]
  Re: satellite dub - new music                              [overbury@cn.ca]
  only tangentially RH related; email me privately  [Carole Reichstein <caro]
  Re: Bush (NR)                                    [steve <schiavo@home.com>]
  RE: Elian....                                [tanter <tanter@tarleton.edu>]
  Re:more movie music             ["Russ Reynolds" <rcreation@earthlink.net>]
  Greatest Album Titles Ever?              [Jeff Dwarf <munki1972@yahoo.com>]
  Re: Greatest Album Titles Ever?  ["J. Katherine Rossner" <ookpik@mindsprin]
  Re: eb's dictate all over the world  [Christopher Gross <chrisg@gwis2.circ]
  Re: Greatest Album Titles Ever?                       [dmw <dmw@radix.net>]
  Album titles from me and 'the little girl'  [Vivien Lyon <vivlyon@yahoo.co]
  Re: more movie music                    [hal brandt <hbrandt@milehigh.net>]
  Re: Greatest Album Titles Ever?                          [MARKEEFE@aol.com]

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Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 14:00:13 PDT
From: "Capitalism Blows" <etews@hotmail.com>
Subject: eb's dictate all over the world

<As someone who was in South Florida when this whole thing went down, I'm 
not so sure of it.  The Miami/Ft. Laud stations gave him more airtime than 
the entirety of Fort Lauderdale.>

by "influence", i meant upon policy.


<Eddie, do you see Cuba as a reasonable approximation of the type of
socialism you advocate?>

i've said on this list more than a few times that i do not.
let me say, though, that the bit about the kennedy administration being 
scared shitless of the "threat of a good example" was not speculation 
(except for the part about mr. hedges having seen many of the documents, 
which *was* speculation).  it's in the (now) public record.


<If not, how much and in what respects does it fall short?  I'm not 
necessarily trying to start a long theoretical debate on the list, but I 
*am* curious.>

kind of a difficult question to answer, not least because of the embargo.  
the most glaring respect is that it is a state-run society.  as such, it is 
*by definition* not socialist.
but i'm not the all-out castro-hater that many on the left are.  again, it's 
so difficult to judge, given the fact of continuous u.s. intervention into 
cuban affairs.


<so government policies were not the *only* reason Cuba compares so well to 
its region.>

but that's *despite* the embargo (as opposed to u.s. "tutelage" 
"benefitting" the other countries).


<Pure speculation -- since Bush has few established views and absolutely no 
accomplishments to his credit, we have no way of knowing what kind of 
president he would be.>

we know more or less what it would be like, given he's got the backing of 
the republican party.  and, to clarify, i'm not saying that there'd be a 
huge difference one way or the other.
but gore does have a record, after a fashion.  the legacy of the clinton 
administration will be the obliteration of iraq.  halliday's said that the 
only word he can use to describe u.s. policy is "genocidal".  i'm personally 
not sure how much motives should play into assignation of the term -- and i 
don't think the policy is based on the fact that they're *iraqis*, or 
muslims.  either way, it's one of the more monumental crimes of the century, 
and al gore is a quite-willing accomplice.

from <URL:http://www.algore2000.com/agenda/issue_fp.html>:

"Starting with his own voluntary service in the United States Army during 
the Vietnam War, Al Gore has stood for a strong national defense, and an 
America that leads the world toward peace, freedom, and prosperity, for his 
entire career. From his early leadership in the House and Senate on arms 
control and nuclear deterrence; to his support for strong action against 
rogue states such as Saddam Hussein's Iraq; to his work to promote 
democracy, free markets and disarmament in the former Soviet Union, often 
serving as a critical direct channel to world leaders at times of conflict 
- -- Al Gore has been a key player in American foreign policy for more than 
two decades. As a member of President Clinton's national security team, Al 
Gore has played a role in almost every critical foreign policy decision of 
the past six years."

it's enough to make a grown man shudder.


<who is sitting two blocks from the IMF building and three from the World 
Bank's main building.  Not much seems to be going on at the moment, though.>

i believe that tomorrow ("a16") is the big day.


by the way, am in the only one positively *giddy* in anticipation of the new 
minus 5 record?
- --LET THE WAR AGAINST MUSIC BEGIN has *got* to be the greatest album title 
ever devised.  i defy anyone to "posit" its superior.
- --the first two albums kicked major ass.
- --robyn's got a spoken-word piece.  you know, i can already imagine 
precisely what his voice will sound like, but i'm awfully anxious to hear 
the exact words.



KEN "Only the drum machine's been paid" THEN KENSTER



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Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 17:26:34 -0400
From: overbury@cn.ca
Subject: Re: satellite dub - new music

> ok - I'm new to this mailing list thing and didn't know that there was a
> certain way of doing things.

OK, now hang out with us for a while and once we know who you are we might
become interested in your music.  Have you started by listening to what some
other fegs do?  Check out the fegbands links on www.glasshotel.net.

>  I'm hardly a ruthless business type - I've got
> hair half way down my back!

Ewww! I hope you wear t-shirts at the beach!


- --
Ross Overbury
Montreal, Quebec, Canada

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Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 16:23:06 -0700 (PDT)
From: Carole Reichstein <carole@technical.powells.com>
Subject: only tangentially RH related; email me privately

Years ago, my friend Brian played Robyn's "Beautiful Girl" at a wedding.
The couple later divorced, unfortunately, but it was still a sweet little
moment.

My friend Ellen is getting married in 3 weeks. She has no idea what music
to play at her wedding. I told her I'd ask the Feglist: what cool songs
would YOU play at your wedding? Any ideas? 

Any and all suggestions welcome. 

Email me in private, please. Thanks!

Carole
 

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Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 19:45:40 -0500
From: steve <schiavo@home.com>
Subject: Re: Bush (NR)

>>why? there's no fucking way in hell that a bush presidency would be more 
>>damaging than a gore presidency.

Christopher Gross:
>Pure speculation -- since Bush has few established views and absolutely no
>accomplishments to his credit, we have no way of knowing what kind of
>president he would be.

Chris has hit the bullseye. Bush is a weak governor (49th of 50) dealing 
with a state legislature that is evenly divided. He has only two 
executive powers - veto and appointments. He can do nothing in Texas if 
the Democrats do not agree.

He got elected (in a Republican state) because his name is Bush and he's 
not a troglodyte aggie idiot like the previous Republican candidate, who 
bragged about how he and his pals got "serviced" at a Mexican whorehouse.

Bush has never had an actual idea in his life.  If elected, he will make 
policy by choosing from whatever proposals are put forward by his staff.  
He will bring some people from Texas, but the rest will be the usual 
suspects from the various Republican thinktanks, although of a newer 
generation than those of his daddy's administration.

Also ask yourself this - do you want a Supreme Court that is a good bit 
more right wing than the one we have now, and do you think Bush will say 
no to whatever bullshit those evil bastards Dick Armey and Tom DeLay can 
get passed in the House?


More than willing to vote for the lesser of evils (although in Texas that 
may be Libertarians and Greens) -

Steve

Oh yeah, that great victory Bush had in the last election - the turnout 
was 26% and the Democrats didn't field or fund a viable candidate.


__________
Iąd sit down and meditate but my ass is on fire. - Bill Nelson 

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Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 22:58:56 -0500
From: tanter <tanter@tarleton.edu>
Subject: RE: Elian....

>===== Original Message From Christopher Gross

>Pure speculation -- since Bush has few established views and absolutely no
>accomplishments to his credit, we have no way of knowing what kind of
>president he would be.
>

That's not really true.  We can see what kind of pres he'd be based on the 
kind of governor he is--he advocates killing people (death penalty), has few 
thoughts of his own (the lt. gov is actually the one in charge here), thinks 
kids shouldn't think their own thoughts (state testing virtually mandates that 
kids are taught to the test, are taught what they need to take the test but 
aren't taught much else), has little idea of what goes on in other places 
outside of Texas. We had a killer tornado here a couple of weeks ago in Ft. 
Worth. LOTS of damage.  Rather than come see the damage, Bush was on the stump 
and just signed emergency legislation from his fancy pad wherever he was.  
That says more than most things.  So what kind of pres will he be?  Not a very 
good one, in my view.

Marcy L. Tanter
Assistant Professor of English 
Tarleton State University
Stephenville, TX  76401
254-968-9892 (9039 to leave a message)

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Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 00:08:38 -0700
From: "Russ Reynolds" <rcreation@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re:more movie music

> Christian Bale, who played
> him, may be the first person in the history of the English language to say
> "This track is called 'Sussudio.' Great song."

As inconceivable as it sounds I betcha it's already been said by dozens of
radio DJ's around the country, skilled at pretending that they actually LIKE
the music their listeners like.   Having to say shit like that to get
ratings is one of the reasons I moved into the production studio full time.
Anyone thinking of becoming a radio DJ for a living should write me for the
complete list of remaining reasons.

- -rUss.

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Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 01:01:26 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jeff Dwarf <munki1972@yahoo.com>
Subject: Greatest Album Titles Ever?

Capitalism Blows <etews@hotmail.com> wrote:
> by the way, am in the only one positively *giddy* in anticipation of
> the new minus 5 record?
> --LET THE WAR AGAINST MUSIC BEGIN has *got* to be the greatest album
> title ever devised.  i defy anyone to "posit" its superior.

Titles I still like better:
Fresh Fruit for Rotting Vegetables
FrankenChrist
If Evolutions is Outlawed, Only Outlaws Will Evolve
Teenage Symphonies to God
Music for the Masses (though i would have liked it better as an
Einsturzende Neubauten or Throbbing Gristle title)
Invisble Hits

> --the first two albums kicked major ass.
> --robyn's got a spoken-word piece.  you know, i can already imagine 
> precisely what his voice will sound like, but i'm awfully anxious to
> hear the exact words.


=====
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Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 04:19:44 -0400
From: "J. Katherine Rossner" <ookpik@mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: Greatest Album Titles Ever?

Don't Crush That Dwarf, Hand Me the Pliers
Dark Ships in the Forest

- --
You've got Tom Jones singin' on the stereo
- --well, that I could do without,
Ah, but who needs perfection?
I like the tension when there's room for doubt...
				- Ellis Paul, "Seize the Day"

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Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 09:45:48 -0400 (EDT)
From: Christopher Gross <chrisg@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu>
Subject: Re: eb's dictate all over the world

On Sat, 15 Apr 2000, Capitalism Blows wrote:

> <Pure speculation -- since Bush has few established views and absolutely no 
> accomplishments to his credit, we have no way of knowing what kind of 
> president he would be.>
> 
> we know more or less what it would be like, given he's got the backing of 
> the republican party. 

True enough.  Actually, I can imagine all too well what Dubya would be
like as president.  But when I wrote that I wasn't really serious; rather,
I was taking the opportunity to mock Bush, one of my favorite hobbies.
The man is just contemptible.  

> --LET THE WAR AGAINST MUSIC BEGIN has *got* to be the greatest album title 
> ever devised.  i defy anyone to "posit" its superior.

Equal, if not superior:

- -Jonestown Aloha
- -Beelzebubba
- -Big Electric Metal Bass Face
- -Bring Me the Head of Yuri Gagarin 
- -The Mind Is a Terrible Thing to Taste 
- -Taking Drugs to Make Music to Take Drugs To
- -The Devil's Bris
- -Rat Music for Rat People
- -Got Moose?

- --CHRIS "Oh, and just about every Butthole Surfers album" THE CRIPSTER

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Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 11:39:01 -0400 (EDT)
From: dmw <dmw@radix.net>
Subject: Re: Greatest Album Titles Ever?

My Dad is Dead - _Let's Skip the Details_

i like FZ's _Ship Arriving too Late to Save a Drowning Witch_ pretty well,
too.

- -- d.

- - oh no, you've just read mail from doug = dmw@radix.net - get yr pathos
- - www.pathetic-caverns.com -- books, flicks, tunes, etc. = reviews
- - www.fecklessbeast.com -- angst, guilt, fear, betrayal! = guitar pop

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Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 10:59:46 -0700 (PDT)
From: Vivien Lyon <vivlyon@yahoo.com>
Subject: Album titles from me and 'the little girl'

GNAT says:

Gotta Let this Hen Out- M. Robyn et le Egyptianes (which she
claims to have liked before she really knew who Robyn was)

Rum, Sodomy and the Lash- The Pogues

It Crawled into My Hand, Honest -The Fugs

I say:

We Are His People- The Good News Circle


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Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 13:05:21 -0600
From: hal brandt <hbrandt@milehigh.net>
Subject: Re: more movie music

Russ Reynolds wrote:

> As inconceivable as it sounds I betcha it's already been said by dozens of
> radio DJ's around the country, skilled at pretending that they actually LIKE
> the music their listeners like.   Having to say shit like that to get
> ratings is one of the reasons I moved into the production studio full time.
> Anyone thinking of becoming a radio DJ for a living should write me for the
> complete list of remaining reasons.
 
Amen to that, Russ. I got out of radio entirely (after 17 years on-air.)

/hal, who did have to pretend to like "Sussudio" and a helluva a lot
worse during the eighties/nineties

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Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 17:14:13 EDT
From: MARKEEFE@aol.com
Subject: Re: Greatest Album Titles Ever?

some album titles I like a lot:

Hal Willner: "Whoops, I'm an Indian"
John Fahey: "The Transfiguration of Blind Joe Death"
Squarepusher: "Music is Rotted One Note"
NMH: "In the Aeroplane Over the Sea"
Funkadelic: "Free Your Mind, and Your Ass Will Follow"
Public Image, Ltd.: "Compact Disc" (the format I happen to own; any will 
suffice)
Charles Mingus: "Black Saint and the Sinner Lady"
Belle and Sebastian: "If You're Feeling Sinister"
Robyn: "Element of Light"
The The: "Dusk" (simple, yet evocative . . . and true to the sound)
Firesign Theater (again): "How Can You Be in Two Places at Once When You're 
Not Anywhere at All?"
and the forthcoming Sleater-Kinney title knocks my socks off: "All Hands on 
the Bad One"

- -----Michael K.

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