From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V9 #78 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Wednesday, March 29 2000 Volume 09 : Number 078 Today's Subjects: ----------------- bonus quote for hal ["CORNHOLE ARMAGEDDON" ] Re: rew review [Capuchin ] Re: worst part of the Oscars [Capuchin ] Re: robyn news [Capuchin ] Re: The Best Ten Parts of the Oscars [Miles Goosens ] Re: worst part of the Oscars [hal brandt ] Cappuchy fibs: was worst part of the Oscars- this is gonna get me in trouble.... [Mark_Gloster] fegtishism ["J. Katherine Rossner" ] Re: I can't remember which of you were DP fans... [Tom Clark ] Re: The Best Ten Parts of the Oscars [Glen Uber ] Re: worst part of the Oscars ["Jason R. Thornton" ] NMH Austin ["Bret" ] de-lurking ["she.rex" ] I'm an idiot. ["Bret" ] yo la tengo ["brian nupp" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 21:48:30 PST From: "CORNHOLE ARMAGEDDON" Subject: bonus quote for hal and anybody else who might give a rat's ass. another quote from 1986, this one about captain sensible: He blundered on stage with us one night, and was very drunk. He offered to join us in a version of "Sandra's Having Her Brain Out" as an encore. He sang a couple of lines, grabbed my hair, threw water over the audience, fell over, was thrown off by our roadies, and then shoved down into the street by the management. He rang me up about six months later, said he was making a record, and would I like to help? So having cemented our relationship, I went along and worked on the last two albums, and I'm working, I hope, on the present one. which reminds me of a funny story told to me by mr. chris franz, as we were wheeling our way from sf to la (and which i hope he doesn't mind me re-telling). mr. franz had gone to see the damned, and during the opening act (i've forgotten who it was), the captain walked across the stage, in front of the band, eating an apple. as he finished his apple, he chucked it behind him, and it...i've forgotten what it did, now! i think it either hit somebody on the head, or landed in the drumset. at any rate, i was laughing my ass off when chris told me about that. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 22:38:43 -0800 (PST) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: rew review On Mon, 27 Mar 2000, CORNHOLE ARMAGEDDON wrote: > Rew was once Robyn Hitchcock's foil in the Soft Boys, Britain's > premier late-'70s neo-psychedelicists, but he's best known for two > songs he wrote after he and Hitchcock parted: "Going Down to > Liverpool," which was covered by the Bangles, and "Walking on > Sunshine," a 1985 hit for Rew's own Katrina and the Waves that lives > on in antihistamine ads. I am not lying: This very antihistamine ad was on TV fifteen seconds ago... as I was reading this post! I was lying: ...when I said I wasn't going to watch more TV... though technically I'm not watching it. J. - -- ______________________________________________ J A Brelin Capuchin ______________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 22:43:30 -0800 (PST) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: worst part of the Oscars On Mon, 27 Mar 2000, Eb wrote: > Jeme anti-Hollywooded, again: > >Whatever. Nobody outside of the entertainment industry (or LA, which is > >just full of people thinking they're in the entertainment industry out > >of some mistaken belief that it has more validity than any other random > >industry, like, say food service). > > Uhh...is this last sentence missing a clause? Yeah. Posting while trying to code again. Sheesh. s/service)./service) knew that anything had happened in the first place. I only pieced together what happened from Eb's post and Billy Crystal's comments./ And I apologize if you understood that. > >Which is why he made a realistic politician in Bulworth. Beatty is good > >at saying a whole lot of nothing. That's pretty much what actors do > >when someone's not handing them a script. > Whew. Are you sure that *I'm* the "angry" one on the list, /hal? Judging > from the posts of the last hour or so, I'd say I'm in third or fourth > place, at best. Oh, come on, Eb. You'll always be second best in my book. > Eb (who would want to fuck a dress?) I don't know, but Quail seemed to like Ms. Hayek's dress better than what held it up. Everyone talks about how sexy the dresses are. I don't think I've ever seen a sexy dress on a hanger or mannequin. Not much of a fetishist, J. - -- ______________________________________________ J A Brelin Capuchin ______________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 22:46:37 -0800 (PST) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: robyn news On Mon, 27 Mar 2000, fartachu wrote: > >ROBYN HITCHCOCK TOUR DATES > >Touring will be minimal this year as Robyn is currently revising his > >novel, provisionally titled The Unbaby. What happened to the Ballad of Jacob Lurch? I loved that title. > >Robyn will be making the following guest appearances: > > April 24: with comedian Rich Hall at the Comedy Store in London > > > >The following three dates he'll be playing with Yo La Tengo (that is to say, > >as guitarist in their band!): > > May 6: Brighton (check local listings for venue) > > May 8: London (check local listings for venue) > > May 13: Glasgow (check local listings for venue) Do either of these make anyone ELSE'S eyes bulge out? I mean... weird. Rich Hall always SEEMED like a Robyn fan... but Robyn's going to be at the Comedy Store. Fucked up. > >U.S. Solo Shows > > Jun 16: The Bottom Line, New York City (two shows) Two shows on the sixteenth? Hrrm. The question is, who do we know that might be in New York City that week and willing to house some wayward feg and her doting beau? Because mid-June is a great time to take a little vacation... J. - -- ______________________________________________ J A Brelin Capuchin ______________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 01:26:26 -0600 From: Miles Goosens Subject: Re: The Best Ten Parts of the Oscars At 07:13 PM 03/27/2000 -0500, The Great Quail wrote: >3. The look on Denzel Washington's face when the Oscar went to Kevin >Spacey, a look that clearly said "Fucking white racist fucking >assholes, goddamn, ...!!!!...FUCK!!!" Nope, this look was the "I picked this year to give up my carefully-preserved good guy image that I've worked to keep since that ST. ELSEWHERE Emmy, belive all my press, act like I've got the thing won, and WHAT?" See also the much more delightful victory of La Petite Binoche over mega-bitch Lauren "They Have To Give It To Me Before I Croak... Don't They?" Bacall a couple o' years ago. >8. Watching Billy Crystal become more like Jackie Mason right before >one's very eyes. Big difference: Jackie Mason has actually been funny since 1987. I thought the best ten parts of the Oscars all belonged to Chloe Sevigny. later, Miles ====================================================== Miles Goosens UNlimited edition R. Stevie Moore CDs now available! http://www.rsteviemoore.com My personal website http://www.mindspring.com/~outdoorminer/miles "If a million people say a stupid thing, it is still a stupid thing." -- Anatole France ====================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 10:26:42 +0100 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: New Internationalist: Robyn in a dress? Whilst skimming this month's copy of New Internationalist (http://www.oneworld.org/ni/), I noticed their ersatz 'Statue of Liberty' character looks a lot like Robyn, circa Respect, but in a dress. A scan here: http://homepages.enterprise.net/scruss/Images/isthisrh.jpg Make your own minds up. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 05:50:42 -0800 From: mrrunion@palmnet.net Subject: Re: worst part of the Oscars Eb (who would want to fuck a dress?) "I used to ring you and put down the phone, Once wore a hole in your dress..." -- someone or other Mike (who really digs the image this implies) Runion - ----- Sent using MailStart.com ( http://MailStart.Com/welcome.html ) The FREE way to access your mailbox via any web browser, anywhere! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 15:51:17 +0100 (BST) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: robyn news On Mon, 27 Mar 2000, fartachu wrote: > >Robyn also contributes guitar and background vocals to the song > >"Straight From the Heart" on the new album by Sid Griffin's band, > >Western Electric. This is also newly released on Gadfly > >Records.http://www.gadflyrecords.com Is Western Electric the same band that used to be called the Coal Porters? Or is it a new outfit? It would be a shame if the CPs have folded. - - Mike Godwin ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 08:18:03 -0700 From: hal brandt Subject: Re: worst part of the Oscars Eb wrote: > [inevitable, hypocritical petulance ignored] Well, 'ignored' is certainly the wrong word here! As to my (again, in your poorly chosen, inflammatory words) 'hypocritical petulance': You disparaged Ray Charles in your initial Oscar post. I 'compared' you to Elvis Costello (circa 1978) and his (admittedly much harsher) slam on Ray. It was a joke, Eric. Lighten up. (Eddie, you think YOUR humor is misunderstood-!) > >Was there a "best" part of this year's Oscars?! > > Umm.... > Pedro Almodovar winning an Oscar. "All About My Mother" was dreadful. Did anyone really enjoy it, or are we just happy that he won based on his (much better) other films? (I wonder who'll be *next* year's Roberto Begnini-esque speech maker?) /hal, risking the inevitable Ebacklash® that will certainly result, here or offlist, due to my attempting to join the discussion ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 08:18:33 -0800 From: Mark_Gloster@3com.com Subject: Cappuchy fibs: was worst part of the Oscars- this is gonna get me in trouble.... Capoochy (a.k.a. missing clause) elucidates thusly: >I don't know, but Quail seemed to like Ms. Hayek's dress better than >what held it up. Everyone talks about how sexy the dresses are. I >don't think I've ever seen a sexy dress on a hanger or mannequin. >Not much of a fetishist, Folks, aside being one of the top 2 on the all time list of crabby participants of this listserve, Jeme is not necessarily completely candid here. If you have ever had "certain conversations" about, well, "intimate things," with him, you could easily measure his physical responses without scientific apparati. When he and I discussed one of his, er, uh, "vehicles of ecstacy" his pupils dialated, his brow sweated, his cheeks became flushed, and he started to drool out of both sides of his mouth (he was standing level.) He also excused himself to go to the restroom to "get rid of some cranberry juice." Yea. Right. Is that what he calls it? I could go on for some time about his physical responses to mere words, but there are kindler and gentler personages (Eddie, you know who you are) than myself here and I wouldn't want to horrify or upset them. Now, I understand that the rigid, if I may use that term, definition of "fetish" is something if whose presence is omitted from the presence of "lovemaking" causes the experience to, well, er, not achieve the pinnacle of its experience. I think that a definition should include ideas whose mere consideration, or mention, cause a significant physiological change in the person who experiences even just that _idea_. I know I'm talking out of turn and exposing intimate details, and I have tried to circumlocute to what degree I could, but I think I should expose exactly what we were discussing at that moment. We were talking about Linux at the time. Jeme's not just crabby, he's also kinda nerdy. I'm sure that some of you will think he's a disgusting pervert- as I do, but please forgive his unnatural transgressions against the one true operating system. Happies, This has been another grating message from Markg, your public savant. ps. I didn't have any problem with Ray Charles. I think he's doin' great for an old guy who was on heroin for 20 years. pps. I was a little disappointed at how poorly some actors and actresses did at reading the cue cards. ppps. Maybe he was a little off, but who is a better host for an awards show than Billy Crystal. I like Gary Shandling too, but nobody else seems to. pppps. Slightly disappointed to see that Ashley Judd had covered her reproductive equipment this year. Similar slight disappointments throughout the evening, as mammaries and navels seemed to be largely in hiding. ppppps. On the flipside, I'm okay with Cher's covering of a few of her tatoos. I fear for her that one day she's going to go to the plastic surgeon and he's going to put her on the skin stretching machine and she's just going to pop and guts will go flying all over the place. Spleens a- go-go. pppppps. I saw about half of the show. Saw few of the movies that they were raving. Very few of the movies did I want to see. I'm just not a "grandeur and majesty" kinda guy. Not too much of a "blow things up" kinda guy. Maybe I'm just a man of mystery- an enigma wrapped in a Hawaiian shirt. Maybe this is the year the "Sharkies" awards come out. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 11:30:40 -0500 From: "J. Katherine Rossner" Subject: fegtishism At 08:18 AM 3/28/00 -0800, you wrote: >Now, I understand that the rigid, if I may use that term, >definition of "fetish" is something if whose presence is omitted >from the presence of "lovemaking" causes the experience to, well, >er, not achieve the pinnacle of its experience. I think that a >definition should include ideas whose mere consideration, or >mention, cause a significant physiological change in the person >who experiences even just that _idea_. The DSM-IV just defines "fetish" as a nonliving object (one which is "required or strongly preferred for sexual excitement"). Certainly it sounds as though UNIX qualifies in this instance. I'll leave the more obvious puns to your discretion. (Reading the DSM's brief entry on fetishism, I am amused by the note that "this paraphilia is not diagnosed when the fetishes are limited to articles of female clothing used in cross-dressing, as in Transvestic Fetishism, or when the object is genitally stimulating because it has been designed for that purpose, e.g. a vibrator.) Katherine - -- Ye knowe ek, that in forme of speche is chaunge Withinne a thousand yere, and wordes tho That hadden pris, now wonder nyce and straunge Us thinketh hem, and yit they spake hem so. - Chaucer, "Troilus and Criseyde" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 09:57:44 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: I can't remember which of you were DP fans... I love a good DP! (Sorry, couldn't resist) if you don't get it, then nevermind, - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 10:09:26 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: The Best Ten Parts of the Oscars On 3/27/2000 4:13 PM, The Great Quail wrote: >10. The winner of that Isreali documentary who harangued the audience >in an increasingly strident German tone that surely brought a nervous >sweat to whatever unfortunate bastard was assigned the task of >dragging him off if he went on to long. As soon as I heard the nominees for this category I knew this one would win. That's the golden rule of the Oscars: Make a film about Nazi Germany. Are you listening, Trey Parker??? - -tom "I Love Chloe Sevigny" the tomster http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/p/nm/20000327/en/mdf62039.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 10:32:22 -0800 From: Glen Uber Subject: Re: The Best Ten Parts of the Oscars On 28.03.00 10:09, Tom Clark wrote: > As soon as I heard the nominees for this category I knew this one would > win. That's the golden rule of the Oscars: Make a film about Nazi > Germany. Are you listening, Trey Parker??? Yes! Cartman could dust off his Hitler Hallowe'en costume specially for the movie. For a double-whammy, Trey could even get Danny Elfman to score it. Or does the rule not apply when it comes to Danny Elfman? - --glen "Winona Ryder certainly had a few of the best parts of the Oscars, too" the glenster http://www.eonline.com/Features/Awards/Oscars2000/Gallery/photo4.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 13:37:58 -0800 From: "Jason R. Thornton" Subject: Re: worst part of the Oscars At 05:14 PM 3/27/00 -0800, Capuchin wrote: >Why are there separate awards for short >live-action flicks and short animated flicks, but not seaparate awards >for live-action features and animated features? It seems that the >requirements and skills involved in making these two kinds of features >differ enough to make them almost incomparable. This is probably a really obvious answer, but it's most likely because there just aren't enough animated full-length features (much less "good" ones) released in a year to justify a separate category, whereas there are buttloads of shorts. That's my uninformed guess at least. - --Jason "whatever you do, an actor works harder than you do" Thornton "Only the few know the sweetness of the twisted apples." - Sherwood Anderson ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 19:34:12 -0600 From: "Bret" Subject: NMH Austin Any of you Austin fegs have any info on the Austin show? NMH's site shows a show at Electric Lounge, but I believe it is closed. if it had indeed closed, has it been moved? canceled? whatever? any *ANY* help would be appreciated. thanx! - --b ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 20:23:27 -0500 From: "she.rex" Subject: de-lurking Date: 3-28-00 To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Subject: de-lurking Hello, fegs! Someone mused recently (well not *that* recently, actually) that the lack of T.Rex lyrics and Tim Curry references must mean I was outta here. Not to mention Fegbooks hasn't been updated in a coon's age. Sorry about that - I have been saving your comments and will get to it soon. I've actually been here, reading, all long (though at one point about 20 digests behind) but have just had a very stressful few months and wasn't posting. Also am way behind on picking up the music I so want to get but shouldn't be paying for at the moment, so had not much constructive to say. Except (and I know this comes ridiculously late): Joel - big, huge CONGRATS on quitting smoking! Way to go! Hope it sticks and you're doing great. Also, congrats on graduating! Love Jewels, can't wait for Bram, but will have to wait to leave SoCal on Saturday before ordering. Not a second of free time to do more than pick up email here & load it in my Psion to read on the road. (Working, with my in-laws.) Wasn't struck at all by Guildford on Storefront, but the treatment on Jewels is terrific. One of my favorite tracks. But I might have started it out with the title song. Tom Waits' latest is outstanding, IMO, and so is XTC's Apple Venus Vol. 1 - thanks to all of you for your reviews (especially eb - can't remember the name of the group you said were so underrated but I got it and you were right - it'll come to me at 3am like everything else does... anyway, strong throughout except for Sonny Boy - track 8, is it? - and the last one. not too many albums keep it going like that - refreshing!). BTW - Has anyone heard Leona Naess? I read a positive review of her Comatised, which compared her to Liz Phair and Beth Orton. Is this right? Just wondering. Good to be back - have been enjoying the posts of the surreal posse and others - - you've kept me entertained through a hard time. Thanks! She.Rex (p.s. disregard the return address - my universal email is still She.Rex@lycosmail.com - just using this service to send while away) nr - She (but I'm not a bit like HER, no...) (no lyrics - no brain today...) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 21:26:34 -0600 From: "Bret" Subject: I'm an idiot. ignore my last post. thanx! - -b ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 12:15:05 EST From: "brian nupp" Subject: yo la tengo I know I've heard of them, but who is yo la tengo? Brian ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V9 #78 ******************************