From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V9 #71 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Tuesday, March 21 2000 Volume 09 : Number 071 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Those Mekons [gondola@deltanet.com] AOL RH BS ["brian nupp" ] the three johns - mekons ["jbranscombe@compuserve.com" ] fegmaniax "radio" station [Thomas Rodebaugh ] fegmaniax station addendum [Thomas Rodebaugh ] Re: Sally [digja611@student.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan)] Gibson (was Re: the Underneath) [Christopher Gross ] Re: vermont all over the world [Ken Ostrander ] The Bloke With No Hand [Tom Clark ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 13:25:37 -0800 From: gondola@deltanet.com Subject: Re: Those Mekons dmw the dc show was one of the most genuinely anarchic things i've seen in a long time. ============= The one time I saw the Mekons live (long ago, during the brief period when they were on A&M), the encore ended up with the band ganging up on Jon and forcibly tearing his pants to shreds. Heh heh. Eb, numbering Jon's underpants among the lesser sights of his concert-going experiences ;) - ----- Sent using MailStart.com ( http://MailStart.Com/welcome.html ) The FREE way to access your mailbox via any web browser, anywhere! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 17:54:06 EST From: "brian nupp" Subject: AOL RH BS What the hell is this? Someone selling RH bootlegs? Check it out if you want: http://member.aol.com/yoursongs5/home.html Look under H for Hitchcock. - -Brian ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 18:35:24 -0500 From: "jbranscombe@compuserve.com" Subject: the three johns - mekons Hate to pull rank (tee, hee). I mean age. But if you ever find anything by a band called the 3 Johns, buy it. They are/were the best Mekons off-shoot going. jmbc ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 23:10:22 +0000 (GMT) From: Michael Wolfe Subject: New Releases The only 2000 release for me so far has been Grant Lee Phillips' Ladies Love Oracle, which I like just fine. His concert here in Portland a week ago was quite a bit of fun, too. Though I forgot the cardinal rule of taping: always bring more media than you think you need. He played over 30 songs and for over 2.5 hours (which is not as excessive as it sounds, given that there was no opening act). He did some choice covers for his encore, including Wave of Mutilation, some Johnny Horton song, Jealous Guy, and Ashes to Ashes. He seemed very personable, and had some quite entertaining stage patter. Coming up soon, though, Sleater-Kinney is playing at the Crystal Ballroom on, uh, May 3, I think. The poster has it billed as a cd release party. So that's something for (some of) us to look forward to. Finally, apparently the Minders have a disc of brand new material due out on Spinart in October. Yeah, it's a ways off, but I haven't heard of much else in the pipeline that has me much excited. - -Michael ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 20:15:46 -0500 (EST) From: Thomas Rodebaugh Subject: fegmaniax "radio" station hi all, an announcement and a request for help. i'm creating an mp3.com "station" called fegmaniax. the idea is to collect mp3.com songs by folks who happen to be fegs. the thing is, at the moment, i only know of myself, dolph, and the new nairobi trio as possible members for this station. does anyone know of other fegs who have music on mp3.com? in the meantime, the roughed-out station can be seen at: http://stations.mp3s.com/stations/38/fegmaniax.html i'll add songs from the available artists as time allows. or, as procrastinating about working on my masters thesis allows. thanks for any suggestions for artists to include, tom aka tlr3/the tlr3 automaton *************************** *Tom Rodebaugh * *Graduate Student, UNC-CH * *tlr3@email.unc.edu * *************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 21:03:24 -0500 (EST) From: Thomas Rodebaugh Subject: fegmaniax station addendum i gave incomplete information regarding the mp3.com "fegmaniax" station: note that, unless i am mistaken, songs on stations have to be on mp3.com, and cannot be covers. however, if you have cd or mp3 format songs, it'd be pretty easy for you to make an mp3.com page. it doesn't take a horribly long time, and it's good publicity. i know it's kind of a bummer that we have to go through mp3.com on this one, however. bummed, tom *************************** *Tom Rodebaugh * *Graduate Student, UNC-CH * *tlr3@email.unc.edu * *************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 14:30:37 +1200 (NZST) From: digja611@student.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) Subject: Re: Sally >Just to ruin the song for you forever (as this has for so many >others)... > >The chorus melody is way too much like Dancin' In The Dark for me. I do hear the Bunnymen similarity, but agree about Broos. Still, look on the positive side. Next time you hear Dancing in the Dark you can liven it up by singing about pointing to Norway with your fist. >"Pat Robertson believes in freedom of religion about as > much as Bill Clinton believes in being sexual fidelity." still haven't quite grasped the grammar of this... >Wouldn't that have been Ui'Duibhgeannain? hm. Possibly. Then again, it may simply have been Ui'Duigenain. There was a bardic college run by Ui'Duigenains in the middle ages, so it would be nice to think so... >You know, it didn't even occur to me until recently that seeing Gorky's >Zygotic Mynci tonight is geographically appropriate for Paddyday. hm. Methinks it would have been better for St David's day on March 1st. I know Patrick was born in Wales, but... as for it being close to Ireland, It's further than England is from France, and you try suggesting that the English celebrate any damn Froggy anniversaries (no offence intended to the French).Then again, it wouldn'tsurprise me if undiscovered tribes in the mountains of New Guinea celebrated St Paddy's Day. Oh, and if it's any consolation to Stewart, here in Dunedin we celebrate Burns' night. Then again, his nepher was one of the city's founders. James nf - Belgium, man. Nearly square, with vertical stripes of black, deep yellow and red. No orange duck (Duck a l'Orange?) PS - looks like summer is over. Gales, driving rain, and only 15 degrees today :( PPS - April 23rd. Patron saint of Lebanon, as well - another country which in the past (?) was frequently bombed by its noisy neighbours. James Dignan___________________________________ You talk to me Deptmt of Psychology, Otago University As if from a distance ya zhivu v' 50 Norfolk Street And I reply. . . . . . . . . . Dunedin, New Zealand with impressions chosen from another time steam megaphone (03) 455-7807 (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 07:59:27 -0500 (EST) From: Christopher Gross Subject: Gibson (was Re: the Underneath) As the messages sent during GWU's weekend system outage slowly started to trickle in, I noticed this: On Sat, 18 Mar 2000 Mark_Gloster@3com.com wrote: > >> PS: Happy William Gibson's birthday, everyone! > > >If that guy attempts to write another episode of The X-Files, I'm > >firebombing all of Canada. > > He is responsible for the two worst episodes ever. I haven't read > his other pieces of, um, writing, but after these episodes I think > I'll have to pass them up for sure. I don't know what kind of writing Sharkboys prefer, but I do think you're dismissing Gibson too quickly. I saw one of Gibson's X-Files episodes, the one with a main character called Shadowgoth, and I thought it was far from the worst X-Files ever. Stephen King's episode was far worse, to take one obvious example. Anyway, even if you hated Gibson's X-Files scripts, you might still like his novels and short stories. I think some of his best points as a writer are those less likely to come through in a TV script: his imagery, his ability to write convincingly from different points of view, and the simple high quality of his prose style. Most of his work isn't very heavy on plot, the element most necessary for the tube. What was the second X-Files he wrote? I mostly stopped watching the X-Files last season, so it was probably since then. - --Squidboy (El Calamar Loco) ______________________________________________________________________ Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 11:49:55 -0500 (EST) From: Aaron Mandel Subject: Re: Gibson (was Re: the Underneath) On Tue, 21 Mar 2000, Christopher Gross wrote: > What was the second X-Files he wrote? I mostly stopped watching the > X-Files last season, so it was probably since then. it was about two weeks ago, and was indeed just about the worst X-Files ever. "Killswitch", the one you saw, was much more watchable. it appeared not to have ever been run past an editor who 1) had used a computer 2) had seen an episode of the X-Files or 3) had played a video game and it turned out that what plot there was was there only to set up a computerized image of Scully's head on a naked body. aaron np. The Nields - If You Lived Here, You'd Be Home Now (not nearly as good as the Elliott Smith promo that was playing in the store, damn the clerk, but the best album they've made since Bob On The Ceiling, if not ever) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 12:02:25 -0500 (EST) From: Aaron Mandel Subject: Re: Gibson (was Re: the Underneath) On Tue, 21 Mar 2000, Aaron Mandel wrote: > it was about two weeks ago, and was indeed just about the worst X-Files > ever. "Killswitch", the one you saw, was much more watchable. it appeared > not to have ever been run past an editor who by that last "it", i meant the more recent Gibson episode, "FPS". i'll shut up now. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 10:19:06 -0800 From: Mark_Gloster@3com.com Subject: Re: Gibson (was Re: the Underneath) On Tue, 21 Mar 2000, Aaron Mandel I and Aaron Mandel II wrote: >> it was about two weeks ago, and was indeed just about the worst X-Files >> ever. "Killswitch", the one you saw, was much more watchable. it appeared >> not to have ever been run past an editor who >by that last "it", i meant the more recent Gibson episode, "FPS". i'll >shut up now. Aarons, I completely agree with your assessments. I think that in both Gibsonian X-files he started with a couple of cool ideas (Scully naked not being the least of which) and loading crap all around them. I don't think there was any understanding of character involved in either episode. On one hand, I would hope that a best selling author can write well on his own. On the other hand, if you can't even write for Mulder and Scully, you should take a high school creative writing class or develop a new carreer in surfing the web for money. 'pologies all, but my Jemetol didn't kick in so I took an extra dose and both hit me at the same time. No, I honestly haven't read anything by Gibson and am, therefore, not an expert on his writing. But I do play an irrefutable one on the internet. Now it's my turn to shu'up. - -Eddie Finklebottom Thlggewswagglle Over-Dorkman Hlubbleblubble Tews III ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 13:18:00 -0500 From: Ken Ostrander Subject: Re: Gibson (was Re: the Underneath) >> it was about two weeks ago, and was indeed just about the worst X-Files >> ever. "Killswitch", the one you saw, was much more watchable. it appeared >> not to have ever been run past an editor who > >by that last "it", i meant the more recent Gibson episode, "FPS". i'll >shut up now. 'first person shooter' was worth watching just to see scully as the digital vixen at the end. actually, it was in 'killswitch' that she does her gnarly kickboxing routine. is it me or is it gibson and maddox? probably me. ken "are you gonna take off these cuffs or do i have to do this with my tongue?" the kenster ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 13:18:04 -0500 From: Ken Ostrander Subject: Re: vermont all over the world >Say sum'in about these two...sound, label, etc.? Ideally, a discussion of >new releases would be something more than just posting one's receipts.... well, sorry... >>superhoney no standing boston band on moxxy records. original r&b/funk. i wonder if they'll ever be more than a really great bar band. check out their soundclips: http://superhoney.com/ >>damn personals driver/driver another local band on big wheel recreation. one of the best boston bands around. very influenced by early eighties new wave; but not too derivitive. they've got tight, catchy melodies and a whole albums worth of good songs. http://members.tripod.com/~mitchzaavo/ the new cure album has been discussed here. it's supposed to be a completion of a trilogy including _pornography_ and _disintegration_. all three albums have a similar murkiness, taking rob smith's dreary world view down as far as they can. _bloodflowers_ is characterized by churning, syrupy guitarwork but doesn't have any upbeat songs like the other two albums of the trilogy. _naked self_ has been a long time coming. since his last full album matt johnson has had albums near completion and pulled them for personal reasons. apparently, they weren't good enough. this is what we've been waiting for. very well produced with a new band behind him, he sounds great. he rocks out more than i ever thought he could. it sounds like he's never been away. how do we get some of those 'unreleased' albums listed on the sleeve discography? morphine's posthumous _the night_ plays a little bit with their distinctive sound; but not much. some people i know can't stand this band because "all their songs sound the same"; but they can do so much with so little. with all his dark humor intact, it's a fitting memorial to the memory of mark sandman. the mekons latest _journey to the end of the night_ is a concept album for insomniacs with percolating dub grooves. it starts out slowly and leads you through the darkness with resignation and hope. the album leaves me with a long sigh. there is a sense of loss throughout; but even more powerful is the idea that whatever doesn't kill you only makes you stronger. i also got the new yo la tengo. i was pretty underwhelmed at first; but it's growing on me. some of the songs are beautiful and some are the answer to the mekons concept. there is only one song that i actually skip: last days of disco. the new smashing pumpkins brings them back to rock. that's not to say that there isn't a yawn-inspiring ten minute opus smackdab in the middle; but there is only one. some solid rockers mixed with a few delicate numbers. welcome back jimmy. even the new oasis is pretty good. it has it's share of beatles ripoffs and hollow stadium rockers; but the songwriting is strong and the music is better. still, not as impressive as _the masterplan_. ken "nobody's looking for a puppeteer in today's wintry economic climate" the kenster ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 16:37:48 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: The Bloke With No Hand I don't know if anyone's brought this up in the past (I don't have enough brain cells to hold that kind of information), but does anyone think that the "bloke with no hand" from 1974 is Victor "Moulty" Moulton, drummer for the 60's band "The Barbarians"? Apparently he had his hand blown off as a teen in a fireworks accident and held one of his sticks with a hook. Input? Comments? - -tc ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V9 #71 ******************************