From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V9 #62 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Saturday, March 11 2000 Volume 09 : Number 062 Today's Subjects: ----------------- flips ["Dolph Chaney" ] Re: flips ["Paul Christian Glenn" ] Re: TISM [Tony.Blackman@sita.int] Bragging Last Night. ["Thomas, Ferris" ] Re: eb all over the world [Aaron Mandel ] where's my Jemetol? [Natalie Jacobs ] Jewels for Bram and a Star for Sophia [Griffith Davies ] Jars for Brophia ["JH3" ] never ask a militant vegetarian to endorse leatherwear.... [Jeff Dwarf ] Geek question, all others ignore. [Capuchin ] Re: never ask a militant vegetarian to endorse leatherwear.... [steve Subject: flips Since I know there are Flaming Lips fans in abundance on Feggy, I thought I'd let you know about their current tour. They opened in Champaign on Tuesday night. The setlist will be really familiar to those of you who went to the MABD show. Lots of stuff from Soft Bulletin, 2 from Transmissions, 2 from Clouds Taste Metallic, oh plus a really neato cover version that I won't spoil. 8-) Films for those songs are largely the same too, but they did a video for Waitin' for a Superman that I didn't remember from last time. Also, for those of you who (like my wife) had some trouble with the overly strobey effect of some of the films, it's much less so this time. Headphones, confetti, and puppets make their return... but Wayne has some really fun new puppets! Personally, I had a great time. Becca had bought me a frog puppet for my birthday (awwwwwwww), so I brought him to the show. (I named him Wayne.) So, being the drooling fanboy geek that I am, I waited til Wayne was hanging out after the show and brought my puppet up. He said, "I like him!" I explained the whole thing and asked him to just inscribe the puppet. But he drew on the puppet and then wrote "WAYNE" on him!! Woohooooooooo!!!! Anyway. dolph ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 08:51:29 -0600 From: "Paul Christian Glenn" Subject: Re: flips > Since I know there are Flaming Lips fans in abundance on Feggy, I thought > I'd let you know about their current tour. They opened in Champaign on > Tuesday night. Hmmm. They were in Lincoln last night, and I was invited to go, but since I know nothing about the band I decided to skip it. Mistake? Paul Christian Glenn pcg@mailandnews.com Eon Chamber http://eonchamber.virtualave.net Christian Realists http://x-real.firinn.org Currently Reading: "Shadow Song" by Terry Kay ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 15:34:26 +0000 From: Tony.Blackman@sita.int Subject: Re: TISM TISM Barking mad Australians, IIRC it's an acronym for "This Is Serious Mother". I saw them one New Year's Eve several years back when they played at the Mean Fiddler in Harlesden (North London that is). The set started with people in masks playing a couple of songs and then there was all sorts of commotion when the "real" band came barging through the crowd dressed in tribal gear and carrying placards and the like stormed the stage and threw off the pretenders. It just got more and more bizarre from there. Tony. Luckily, happy enough to attack his region 2 DVD with a soldering iron so that it can play US/Canadian region 1 releases. It's also totally legal. The luckiest bit about DVD region 2 including both Europe and Japan is that a sizable majority of European sources DVD players allow US/Japanese format NTSC to be formatted into PAL (or to be technical for a second PAL60 or quasi-PAL as it is known) so you can watch on a normal UK PAL TV. With DVD you just need to make sure that the DVD player is multi-region out of the box or has a simple software hack using the remote control to permit all regions to play or that there is a simple EPROM piggy-back board available to provide the extra R1/3/4/5/6 codes for your player that can be soldered in. Most hardware mods have the added benefit of disabling Macrovision so that you can make video copies of your DVDs. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 10:35:12 -0500 From: "Thomas, Ferris" Subject: Bragging Last Night. Just thought I would drop a quick line before dropping back into my personal Hell of work.... Went to see Billy Bragg at the Symphony Space in NYC last night. I had heard only a few days before the show that it wasn't going to be the typical Bragg show, but more of a presentation and discussion on his Mermaid Avenue album and work with the Woody Guthrie archive. The short story: Him, relaxed, on a stool with two guitars (one new for the night). Glass of water. Mug of tea. He spoke/played for two hours playing (probably) eight or ten songs, most of which weren't on Mermaid Avenue, some of which are going to be onto a follow-up record due out in the summer, and some of which aren't. I don't think I've seen anyone who, when drawn in from the outside of a project, fell so deeply in love with what he was doing. He seems so enraptured with pouring through this, what, four thousand song archive and setting these words to music. His appreciation for the work and realization that even though he's from over there (even he thought when first approached with the project that it's a job more suited for the likes of Dylan) that they--he, Guthrie, and folksingers from all over--have a lot in common. Very interesting. When all was said and done I'm really pleased I went. While he wasn't Brewing Up, and it wasn't Life's a Riot, it was a brilliant evening. Recordings, to those interested, will be available shortly ;)..... ______________________________________ Ferris Scott Thomas programmer McGraw-Hill Technology Division Farmington, CT 06032 860.409.2612 869.677.5405 (fax) mailto:ferris_thomas@mcgraw-hill.com (work) mailto:ferris@snet.net (home) Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy. --Benjamin Franklin ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 11:39:51 -0500 (EST) From: Aaron Mandel Subject: Re: eb all over the world On Thu, 9 Mar 2000, Capuchin wrote: > So if there's some idiom that says 'Taste the breath of death' that > means something other than literally dying (something more akin to > dancing with death), then I'm fine with the logic. i took "taste my breath" as another fine dysphemism for getting it on, the product of the same mind that gave us "gonna work my pig on you" and "slipping you the midnight fish". sure, nobody wants a snog with death, but it won't kill you. Death, in the song, seems less like the brooding, lonely Death of recent fiction who is a practicing Buddhist but never gets to make any friends, etc. -- he's the filthy rich lord of the underworld who's gone to the party because Lady Waters' plague is about to kill everyone there, but he gets greedy and tries to bag some money and sex. so he's outwitted by the trickster heroine. i love Robyn's invented folk songs... a ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 11:48:39 -0500 (EST) From: Natalie Jacobs Subject: where's my Jemetol? I reviewed a Departure Lounge 7" for the station last week. I would say - if you like pleasant, bland, characterless mid-tempo pop, definitely check this one out. I'm supposed to be reviewing the new Eels this week... tho' one spin through left me unimpressed. Don't like the guy's voice. Further spins may be more enlightening. I don't know if all versions have this, but this radio promo has "Mr. E's Beautiful Blues" as a hidden bonus track, and I like that a lot. I dig the Adrian Tomine artwork, also. He did one of my favorite comics, "Optic Nerve," and now seems to be whoring himself all over the place. I saw some of his stuff in the New Yorker. Apples EP - worth the cash just for the title track (which garnered my first 5-star review of the year!). Other tracks feel like B-sides. But judging by that first track, the new album's gonna be a doozy. Still haven't gotten "Stars for Bram" yet - it should be arriving in the next few days. I'm not expecting much from it, though I'm looking forward to hearing a studio version of "I Saw Nick Drake." I hope I get more Duplex Planet matches! n. (who might be developing a "lupus-like condition" from her anti-thyroid medication! whee!) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 08:52:00 -0800 (PST) From: Griffith Davies Subject: Jewels for Bram and a Star for Sophia Fegs, What tracks would you use from both JFS & ASFB to make the one proper kick-ass RH album? griffith ps - still haven't *ordered* ASFB yet (I know, I suck) ===== - --------------------------------------------------------- Griffith Davies hbrtv219@yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 12:10:39 -0500 (EST) From: Aaron Mandel Subject: Re: Jewels for Bram and a Star for Sophia On Fri, 10 Mar 2000, Griffith Davies wrote: > What tracks would you use from both JFS & ASFB to make > the one proper kick-ass RH album? Mexican God The Philosophers' Stone The Cheese Alarm Viva! Sea-Tac I Feel Beautiful Elizabeth Jade Nietzche's Way The Green Boy Antwoman Judas Sings The Underneath Jewels For Sophia unlisted bonus tracks: 1974 (psych-rock version) Little Princess And Mr. Tongs or whatever it's called "I Used To Love You" is very pretty, but it's the only thing on A Star For Bram about which i entirely buy the line that it just didn't fit on JfS, running length no object. a ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 12:14:38 EST From: DDerosa5@aol.com Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V9 #61 In a message dated 3/10/00 9:45:03 AM Eastern Standard Time, owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org writes: << did anyone buy the new apples ep? i was just wondering if it's worth dishing out the dollars for 6 songs. actually, i'm sure i will buy it (indie rock record dork), but i just want to know if it's good. >> I did, it's pretty good, though no Wallpaper reverie. I paid $4 for it used, it's worth that...6? dunno. Hillarie sings one song, and the album track is very pretty, though a bit slight. But, I'm damn excited to go see the Apples when they come to town--they're playing Schuba's with Gorky's Zygnotic Minci at the end of March. Anyone know if they're touring together, or if this is a one-off? I think GZM was booked solo, originally, but then the Apples (like many other touring acts) may have thought they could play the Lounge Ax again, only to find that with it gone, they'll have to find other venues... Which is fine with me, if they conitnue to book into places like Shubas and Beat Kitchen instead. But now, having typed all this I find myself curious: are any Chicago fegs going? More to the point, are there any other Chill fegs even on this list anymore? dave ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 12:32:48 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: Tori Spelling's mise en scene, etc. Dave: >Anyone know >if they're touring together, or if this is a one-off? I think GZM was booked >solo, originally, but then the Apples (like many other touring acts) may have >thought they could play the Lounge Ax again, only to find that with it gone, >they'll have to find other venues... The Apples aren't opening, but Gorky's ZM are playing here on the 17th and I can't *wait*. Probably the #1 band whom I haven't seen yet. What's more, one of the opening bands is Grandaddy, whom I think (at least, based on their last album) are one of the most underrated bands around. (They're not a very good live act, however -- their gifts are mostly studio-based.) Speaking of my top unseen bands, Oasis is playing on April 9th, but I probably *won't* be going to that. :( Someone I used to know wrote: >I reviewed a Departure Lounge 7" for the station last week. I would say - >if you like pleasant, bland, characterless mid-tempo pop, definitely check >this one out. Heh heh heh. >I'm supposed to be reviewing the new Eels this week... tho' one spin >through left me unimpressed. Don't like the guy's voice. Further spins >may be more enlightening. I don't know if all versions have this, but >this radio promo has "Mr. E's Beautiful Blues" as a hidden bonus track, >and I like that a lot. "Mr. E's Beautiful Blues" is actually the album's *single*. E pulled that perverse, "Train in Vain" gambit. Eb, who never heard of anyone having strong objections to E's voice before ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 16:09:32 -0600 From: "JH3" Subject: Jars for Brophia >> What tracks would you use from both JFS & ASFB to make >> the one proper kick-ass RH album? OK, I've given this some thought, and here's my version: 1. No, I Don't Remember Guildford 2. Sally Was a Legend 3. NASA Clapping 4. Viva! Sea-Tac 5. Elizabeth Jade 6. Mexican God 7. Nietzche's Way 8. I Saw Nick Drake 9. I Feel Beautiful 10. The Green Boy 11. Cheese Alarm (preferably without the intro, at least in this context) 12. Adoration of the City 13. Dark Princess 14. The Underneath (obligatory 60-sec. silence before the...) Hidden Bonus Tracks: 15. Judas Sings (Jesus & Me) 16. I Used to Love You ...I might just as readily move "I Used to Love You" to the #1 position and move "Guildford" to the spot between "Green Boy" and "Cheese Alarm." (Either way, it's just because I like albums that start out with something quiet and sad, then immediately go into a mass-appeal pop song of some sort.) And I'd also put "Antwoman" in there either before or after "Adoration of the City," except that it would spoil the carefully-constructed mood progression... Maybe I'll go and burn a CD-R with this track order right now! It would certainly be more constructive than what I've *been* doing today. John "losin' it totally" Hedges ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 14:26:00 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: never ask a militant vegetarian to endorse leatherwear.... http://wallofsound.go.com/news/stories/chrissiehynde030900.html Pretenders' Hynde Arrested in Protest Pretenders singer Chrissie Hynde was arrested in New York today for protesting against The Gap and against what she claims is the store's use of leather from "illegally and cruelly" slaughtered cows in India. Hynde, who was arrested and charged with criminal mischief along with three other members of People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals members, was led handcuffed into a waiting police van to cheers from activists. Hynde says that Gap jackets bearing "made in India" labels likely use leather from cows slaughtered in India, where cows are sacred, despite the company's claims that the labels did not mean that the leather was from India. "India does not import leather, and it is the largest exporter of leather in the world," says Hynde, who ripped up a Gap jacket as part of the protest. "So it seems highly unlikely that The Gap buys its leather from America, where the slaughterhouse practices are considered humane and legal, and sends the leather to India, stitches up the jacket, and sends it back to America." There is a bit of irony in the situation. On Tuesday, the New York Post reported that the clothing manufacturer had actually approached Hynde about using one of her songs in their "Everybody in Leather" ad campaign. Hynde refused to give The Gap permission to use "Stop Your Sobbing" and was inspired to lead the protest. The Gap, which has met with PETA activists, distributed a statement telling customers that the company shares concerns "about the humane treatment of animals," adding that it buys its finished goods from apparel factories. "Apparel factories often source their leather from other countries," the statement says. "We expect apparel factories to source leather from vendors that follow applicable laws and industry best practices, including the humane treatment of animals." Hynde and the Pretenders are slated to play New York's Roseland Ballroom Friday night — there is no word as to whether the arrest will affect the performance. Reuters contributed to this report. ===== "Pat Robertson believes in freedom of religion about as much as Bill Clinton believes in being sexual fidelity." -- overheard while eating "Life is just a series of dogs." -- George Carlin __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 19:38:03 -0800 From: "Russ Reynolds" Subject: Re: cute :) > "I said, 'But we're willing to break that tradition -- for one knight.'" What a great line! Good thing there happened to be a reporter there who could tell she said it with a "K"! That's why the New York Daily News is such a respected publication I bet! - -rUss ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 03:50:03 -0800 (PST) From: Capuchin Subject: Geek question, all others ignore. On Fri, 10 Mar 2000 Tony.Blackman@sita.int wrote: > The luckiest bit about DVD region 2 including both Europe and Japan is that > a sizable majority of European sources DVD players allow US/Japanese format > NTSC to be formatted into PAL (or to be technical for a second PAL60 or > quasi-PAL as it is known) so you can watch on a normal UK PAL TV. DVD movies are just DVD disks with MPEG2 video on them encoded by the DVDCCA's CSS encryption for the region in which sale is intended. The player is gonna do all the local decoding for video signal. So far as I know, MPEG don't know nothin' 'bout no PAL or NTSC or SEACAM or any old thing, do it? MPEG is just about pixel encoding and frame rates, yes? And how that gets interpreted in hardware is somebody else's business. Anyway, that's how I always figured it. J. - -- ______________________________________________ J A Brelin Capuchin ______________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 09:32:03 -0600 From: steve Subject: Re: never ask a militant vegetarian to endorse leatherwear.... Jeff Dwarf: >Pretenders' Hynde Arrested in Protest There's a live Pretenders webcast tonight - but only for those of you who walk on the dark side. Check your local NPR station, but here's the link at my station. http://publicbroadcasting.net/kera/arts/music/40.html - - Steve _______________ We're all Jesus, Buddha, and the Wizard of Oz! - Andy Partridge ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V9 #62 ******************************