From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V9 #50 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Monday, February 28 2000 Volume 09 : Number 050 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Largo Sound Check ["Kim Ranocchia" ] the dream of the fields of the nephilim box-set (no robyn) [dmw ] Re: dream (no robyn) [Eb ] Gory Counterfeit e.p.'s ["Paul Christian Glenn" ] Re: Gory Counterfeit e.p.'s [Eb ] kimberley rew [fartachu ] Re: Gory Counterfeit e.p.'s [Eric Loehr ] Re: Gory Counterfeit e.p.'s [Jeff Dwarf ] Re: McCartney tribute CD [The Great Quail ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 03:03:58 -0800 From: "Kim Ranocchia" Subject: Largo Sound Check Saturday's Largo soundcheck (no particular order) included at least: Trilobite Tonight Sally Was a Legend Each of Her Silver Wands Aquarium Daisy Bomb Nietzsche's Way All That Money Wants (Psychedelic Furs) That's all I recall at the moment. I'm a bit hazy here. Talk to you = later. Marc ( mholden666@earthlink.net ) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 10:16:05 -0500 (EST) From: dmw Subject: the dream of the fields of the nephilim box-set (no robyn) we're in some sort of social services place, but no one's there, and we're snooping around looking at the cds people have left lying around. there are a bunch; some of them are pretty cool. on a dusty shelf i spy a cd single for "revelation" by fields of the nephilim, it's a weird promo i haven't seen before, and the third b-side, "grave-robber" is one that's unknown to me. i tell my companions, they're like, "'fields of the nephilim!?' get a fucking life!" * and on the shelf below that is a box-set type package, very burnished brass looking, with those squiggly faux-arcane symbols that litter fields of the nephilim product, and so of course i pick it up, and the sleeve turns out to be a die-cut folded sort of thing, you pull it open (kind of like the doors on alice cooper's _welcome to my nightmare_, but instead of opening on a flat surface, the underside of the doors accordion-folds back on itself, and pulls another set up with it, so that there are basically two continuous bands of pleated light stock cardboard) and so, like one of those paper cathedral kits, you wind up with a roofless cardboard square, with walls sort of the thickness of the box**, standing on the desk of the absent social-services type who like cool heavy obscure goth trash, and it's some sort of lost library of alexandria-like building, only, you know, full of twisty faux arcane standard evil fields of the nephilim-style decorations, and you just now that the teensy little scrolls depicted on the teensy little shelves hold all the evil magickal secrets of the universe. and then you realize that the back wall of the little paper building still has what's *really* the cd case in it, you lift up the paper building (being very careful, because it's not yours, and anyway, you're snooping) and the real cd case is standing there, all covered with twisty arcane faux runes. inside there are, like, about 15 discs -- it seems like the band recorded goofy cover tunes at rehearsal, several live concerts, gobs more b-sides i'd never heard of before. far more than even i'd want to listen to actually, but all the same, i was wondering if it would ever come up on e-bay, and, if so, if i could possibly afford it. what, you thought there was going to be a point? i did have this other dream, where this sometime co-worker, sometime rival (the only guy who has ever in real-life challenged me to a fist-fight at a client meeting) and i had somehow become mages. this thing about wings you wore, there was a black inner layer, which was completely hidden by a silver outer layer. the wings were linked to two huge birds, his a black flapping crow like thing, mine grey like dirty snow piled in a parking lot. unfortunately, it turned out they needed to eat daily, and they ate only human flesh. my rival didn't seem to see this as a problem. ...it just occured to me that the huge boxset in the dream might be linked to the fact that the complete _funhouse_ sessions set (a real life album with over 6 hours of alternate versions, unfinished takes and chatter between the band and the engineer; i can't imagine why *anyone* no matter how devout a stooges fan, would actually want to listen to the whole thing (although i think a disc's worth might be pretty cool) came up in conversation at last night's velvet underground tribute show. at which i had a blast; i still have a tinge of post-performance exuberance; i've never felt so good about my singing live before. apologies to anyone who actually read this. i'm going to go brew coffee now. - -- d. p.s. mar9 @ velvet lounge w/licoln brigade, traylor park romeos; mar25 @ studio 1019 with 555, arise from thorns, ether net, moodroom, naughty pine, the patsies, screaming goddess, signs point to yes & smartbomb (more TBA) * perhaps Eb was one of the companions? ** even now that i'm all the way awake, i'm pretty convinced that you could actually make this thing. you couldn't make it with a single die-cut per wall-set, though, because you need little spacer bits that fold up to separate the inner and outer walls of the structure (and to make it unflimsy enough to stand on its own) so there'd have to be a number of glue joints -- it would be a fantastically expensive thing to put into a production package. but golly, it was neat! - - oh no, you've just read mail from doug = dmw@radix.net - get yr pathos - - www.pathetic-caverns.com -- books, flicks, tunes, etc. = reviews - - www.fecklessbeast.com -- angst, guilt, fear, betrayal! = guitar pop ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 14:09:55 -0500 From: fartachu Subject: sonicnet chat transcript fegs, remember that online chat robyn did back in december of 1998? well, the transcript has finally appeared on the sonicnet website. i don't know when it appeared since this is the first time in a long while since i've looked there. i don't think it has been posted to the list though. you can find it at: here's the text for those of you who don't care to browse... Robyn Hitchcock: I'm Robyn Hitchcock and I am in my control room in London. It's now 11:00 PM. Impeaching President Clinton is a complete waste of time and money. I'm just sipping some hot lemon and honey, as I have a cough. SonicNetMod2: Gil: You recently saw the release of the film "Storefront Hitchcock," a live document of two shows you did in a New York storefront last year. How did it feel to see yourself on a huge movie screen? Robyn Hitchcock: It was pretty strange. Cause you're so big when you see yourself. My guitar was huge. But after a while, the mind shrinks it back down to normal size in the eye. SonicNetMod2: Gil: How did you originally get hooked up with Jonathan Demme, the director of the film, who also directed "Silence of the Lambs?" Robyn Hitchcock: He appeared through a trap door in a dressing room in upstate New York and asked me if I wanted to make a movie. SonicNetHost: Michael: Tell us about the movie and why you wanted to have a film done of your performance. Robyn Hitchcock: It was Jonathan’s idea, it wasn't mine. And if Jonathan Demme says he wants to make a movie about you, then you should let him. SonicNetMod2: Gil: How did the concept of doing it in a storefront come up? Robyn Hitchcock: That was Jonathan's concept. It was based on a Dutch theater group he had seen some years previously. I wanted to do it in an abandoned railway carriage, but that was not a practical idea. SonicNetHost: Michael: Had you seen the "Stop Making Sense" film he made of the Talking Heads years ago? Robyn Hitchcock: Yes, I did. It's really good. SonicNetHost: Goldberg: What do you find of interest that is going on in music right now? Robyn Hitchcock: Boy, I have absolutely no idea… I haven't heard the Massive Attack, the Mercury Rev. But then again, I haven't heard "Sketches of Spain" by Miles Davis. SonicNetHost: Goldberg: So, I take it you don't pay a whole lot of attention to other people's music? And you really should give "Sketches of Spain" a listen. SonicNetMod2: Gil: In addition to the film you are also working on a new album and a novel. Tell us a bit about those projects? Robyn Hitchcock: The album is called "Jewels for Sophia" and it should be out this spring. That is almost finished, and the book… I don't know when that will come out. I just finished the first rough draft, so I don't think it will be out this millenium. Oh, back to the last question, I like some of the stuff on the new REM record. There's an awful lot of music, or things that contain music cluttering up my house, but I spend most of the time in either my kitchen or my control room. And neither of those places has a music station. Every time I walk out of the front door an old man walks out of the hedge and gives me a new CD. The control room is where most of my guitars are, as well as a lot of tape machines that don't work or should work. It's like being in the prow of the ship here in my control room. SonicNetHost: Goldberg: What is this "control room" that you keep referring to? Robyn Hitchcock: I just answered that. SonicNetMod2: Gil: You previewed a few songs from the new album at last year's South By Southwest conference, such as "Viva Sea-Tac," inspired by the Seattle-Tacoma airport. Are there other songs on the new album inspired by your trips to the Northwest, or any other discernible theme? Robyn Hitchcock: There's one song that mentions the LAPD and there's another that mentions New York City called "Flesh Head," but I'm not sure that it’s going to make it on this record. But there are bits of America that crop up in the songs, because I keep cropping up in bits of America. SonicNetMod2: Gil: Does the new album feature any collaborations with your old friend, frequent collaborator and REM guitarist Peter Buck? Robyn Hitchcock: Peter's on it, Yeah! Peter's on four songs. It was great to work with him again. Grant Phillips of Grant Lee Buffalo, Scott McCoy of the Young Fresh Fellows, Kimberley Rew of the Soft Boys is on it, as well as the guy who wrote "Walking On Sunshine." Captain Keegan is in the movie and on a lot of the songs. There are a lot of people on this record. SonicNetMod2: Gil: What is it about [Peter Buck] that makes him so easy to work with? He has so many side groups and projects, and people seem to really click with him. What are the titles of the songs he's on? Robyn Hitchcock: He's very quick to assess what a song needs. He doesn't overplay. He can write a very complimentary guitar part. It's not that he's in demand, it's that he wants to be in as many bands as possible. And the other songs are "Viva Sea-Tac," "Elizabeth Jade," "Ringing Them Bones" and… I think that's it. SonicNetMod2: Gil: You always seem to have a backlog of songs ready to go and new material written. How many songs do you write in the average year, and is it ever frustrating that you can't get them all out? Robyn Hitchcock: I probably start with forty or fifty in a year and I probably finish about twenty of them. And I probably record about fifteen. And I probably release about ten. I think I release too many songs. But it's a matter of nurturing an idea from it's conception to the point that it swings out to the world at large. And sometimes I don't have the patience for that, or the idea isn't strong enough. SonicNetMod2: Gil: Will you be doing any more impromptu performances such as you did on the street in New York recently? Robyn Hitchcock: I won't know about them ‘til they happen. The next show I have booked is in Gothenburg, Sweden on January 31st at a club called Nefertitti's. SonicNetHost: Goldberg: So you have a recording studio in your home – is that it? Do you record songs there to release, or record demos and then go to another studio? Robyn Hitchcock: Right now I have various machines, but none of them are very good quality. Eventually though, I will make master quality recordings either up in my control room or downstairs next to the piano. SonicNetHost: Goldberg: You have a really loyal "cult" following, but you haven't experienced mainstream success. Is that something you hope for? Or are you happy with how things are? Robyn Hitchcock: Regardless of what I feel, I've answered more questions about this than anything else in the world. Obviously, the dollar has the last word. Is artistic merit to be assessed solely in terms of bankability? SonicNetHost: Goldberg: Sorry about that then. But I don't know that the dollar has the last word. You've made music that the people who hear it love and feel strongly about. It’s more important to make a strong, lasting impression than to score with pop drivel, don't you think? Robyn Hitchcock: Gee, I hope so. But I wasn't just talking about myself, I was talking about a society that could be spiritually or morally driven, but in fact is motivated by greed alone. And if it isn't… then the religious right is even more frightening than we think it is. qnaughty : Does your wife travel with you? Robyn Hitchcock: I'm not married. swishsweet : Hey Robyn, what was the most embarrassing moment of your life? Robyn Hitchcock: Once when I was playing in Sweden, I discovered that my fly was undone… but I realized this at the end of the show. My guitar hadn't covered this up. More embarrassing still was my first gig in Texas in 1985 where I was so weak after having had an operation that I only got halfway through the set. So that's two. stephen_dedalus80 : Robyn, what do you think of the Stone Roses topping so many "Best Albums" lists? Did you like them when they were around? Robyn Hitchcock: They were OK. They're not as much of a mystery to me as Phil Collins. whirrywhirry : Robyn, do you keep in touch with Andy and Morris, your pals from The Egyptians? Robyn Hitchcock: Not really. I haven't seen Morris or Andy for a while, but I have seen quite a lot of Kimberly. fauteuil7 : Robyn, my favorite song is "Driving Aloud." I read somewhere that there was originally another couple of verses that weren't recorded. Is this true? If so, could they be put on your web site? Robyn Hitchcock: There are hundreds of verses that weren't recorded, but I think that all the best bits wound up in the three that were. I'm glad you like the song though! lindielv : Have you written any songs for any other artists? Robyn Hitchcock: I submitted a song for the Tom Hanks movie "That Thing You Do." I wrote lyrics for former Damned member Captain Sensible. That's about it… SonicNetMod2: Gil: For those who don't know, the busking I was talking about also featured some REM members playing on the sidewalk in New York with you a few weeks ago. Was that the first time you'd done that kind of al fresco busking? Robyn Hitchcock: I think it's the first time I've busked with Peter Buck, Though it's not the first time I've busked. I remember singing The Beatles on a Hyde Park corner in 1973. But Peter and I did raise seven dollars the other night outside The Film Forum. stephen_dedalus80 : How did the song "Flesh Head" come about? Robyn Hitchcock: I don't remember exactly. I was writing it during August. stephen_dedalus80 : Robyn, what is your favorite kind of guitar? Robyn Hitchcock: My favorite guitars are the ones I have. The Fyld Acoustics are the best (which you can see me playing in "Storefront Hitchcock"). The Fender Telecasters are also tops. scary_mary_x : Are you planning a combined art gallery show/acoustic performance tour in the US? Robyn Hitchcock: I was, about five years ago. I think that I'll show some pictures on my website, www.robynhitchcock.com. You can see some of the stuff in 3D, and I'm hoping my girlfriend Michele will donate one picture to it. So, to answer the original question, when I have an art exhibition it will be in cyberspace only. whirrywhirry : I know this is reaching back into the murky past, but what inspired "Heart Full of Leaves?'' That song laid me flat the first time I heard it. Incidentally and strangely, National Public Radio used a portion of it as a filler between newsbits – oddly inappropriate, but pleasing nonetheless. Robyn Hitchcock: I think it was playing that Fyld guitar… it was one of the first songs Iwrote on it. I think I described it elsewhere as Captain Beefheart meets Country Joe and the Fish. I'm very proud of that one. fauteuil7 : Robyn, I'm shy and have problems talking to pretty girls. What should I do? Robyn Hitchcock: Everyone wants to talk, no one walks to listen. You're in a winning position. Keep it up. SonicNetMod2: Gil: Do you consider yourself a rock star, in the strictest sense of the term? Do you have any leather trousers or indoor-outdoor shades? Robyn Hitchcock: Just to get back to an old question, Andy is in LA and Morris is in Gloucester. I did have some leather trousers, back in 1973, but the bad news is that I also had a beard. No, I'm an anti-star, as y'all would say. I'm a star for people who don't like stars. fauteuil7 : Where and when do you do most of your writing? Do the lyrics all come out at once, or do they sort of dribble out? Robyn Hitchcock: That's a good question. I never really notice at the time, but I look back in the book and see that I've written something. It's best not to be too aware of what you're doing in this instance. It's healthier if all the words come at once, but sometimes you have to be gracious enough to leave a few gaps and hope that the right words will come to roost in them. fauteuil7 : Do you produce and put out your early stuff with the Soft Boys, or did you sign to a label? If the latter, how did you "get discovered?" Robyn Hitchcock: The first couple of records were for record labels, then we put out the first LP ourselves, because nobody else wanted to put it out. We finally spent the last year of our existence on a tiny British independent label called Armageddon Records. It was run by a man named Richard Bishop who now manages, among others, Henry Rollins, Love Spit Love and a band with a very elemental/druggie/metallic sounding name (which none of us can remember). SonicNetMod2: Gil: Are you going to party like it's 1999? Robyn Hitchcock: When? SonicNetMod2: Gil: Exactly! Soon, this month, next year… Robyn Hitchcock: That depends on exactly how much of me there is left when the time rolls around. mgoosens : Any chance that the promo CD of your "Royal Albert Hall" show will be released more widely? Robyn Hitchcock: Not the Warner Brothers version, but I think that we may release it through the Museum of Robyn Hitchcock, which has various pieces of merchandise of new and old for sale including floating pens, either twist or click in green, black and purple. As part of the Museum's policy of bringing you what you need only a mere two and a half months after you need it, we'll release a range of records which will feature various recordings that I have the rights to, which have previously been scarce or unavailable. One of these is the "Royal Albert Hall" disc, and I hope that this stuff will begin to come out next fall. SonicNetMod2: Gil: You mentioned the whole Clinton impeachment thing at the beginning. What do you think of it? From an across-the-ocean perspective, does it seem as silly and petty as it does from atop the rotating San Francisco SonicNet offices? Robyn Hitchcock: Absolutely, completely. It's just beyond words. I think Michael Stipe put it well – "What is a presidential blow job in comparison to the Iran Contra Affair?" I think it's pretty terrible that Monica didn't get one measly orgasm out of the whole affair. I think that's the worse thing of the whole affair. I think he should be censored for not going down. The heart bleeds. SonicNetMod2: Gil: We'd like to thank Robyn for typing in from his Control Room, it's been a pleasure. Check out the movie "Storefront Hitchcock" when you get a chance. Robyn Hitchcock: I don't think I'm physically capable of answering any more questions. I hope you all have a good winter and don't fall through the cracks and if you do, I hope you emerge as something really beautiful. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 13:03:59 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: dream (no robyn) found newsgroup quote of the week: "All of the dreams I can remember feature a celebrity cameo...I don't own a TV and rarely see movies anymore -- maybe this explains all the Ricky Schroeder and Alan Thicke appearances?" Eb ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 15:39:21 -0600 From: "Paul Christian Glenn" Subject: Gory Counterfeit e.p.'s Hey folks! I recently picked up Martin Gore's "Counterfeit e.p." from a used cd store. A friend of mine had it when I was in high school, and I always really dug it, so I couldn't resist the $2.99 price tag. Perhaps it's the nostalgia, but I still find it yummy - Gore's voice is mesmerizing (I always wished that he would do more lead vocals on DM's records, but nevermind). Point is, all the songs are covers, and I'm wondering if anyone knows who the bands are that performed the original tunes. There isn't much in the way of liner notes, but here's how the songs are credited: "Compulsion" written by Joe Crow "In A Manner Of Speaking" written by Winston Tong "Smile In The Crowd" written by Vinni Reilly "Gone" written by Glaisher/Peake/Fellows/Brown "Never Turn Your Back On Mother Earth" written by Ron Mael "Motherless Child" (Traditional) Winston Tong comes up at www.cddb.com as having two solo records, but neither lists "In A Manner of Speaking". Vinni Reilly is/was apprently involved with a band called The Durutti Column, but "Smile In the Crowd" doesn't appear in any of the track lists for their albums at CDNow. Anyone have any insight? Paul Christian Glenn pcg@mailandnews.com Eon Chamber http://eonchamber.virtualave.net Currently Reading: "The Fated Sky" by Henrietta Branford ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 13:52:12 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: Gory Counterfeit e.p.'s >Winston Tong comes up at www.cddb.com as having two >solo records, but neither lists "In A Manner of >Speaking". > >Vinni Reilly is/was apprently involved with a band >called The Durutti Column, but "Smile In the Crowd" >doesn't appear in any of the track lists for their >albums at CDNow. > >Anyone have any insight? Winston Tong used to lead Tuxedomoon. And I suspect that most Durutti Column releases are out of print. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 18:03:27 -0500 From: fartachu Subject: kimberley rew fegs, got a note from kimberley rew (or, perhaps, his webmaster). the points he made: * new website at * distribution of the new album in europe, canada and japan is in the works * a tour in the united states is planned, but nothing with respect to dates or personnel has been finalized woj ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 22:48:11 -0500 From: Eric Loehr Subject: Re: Gory Counterfeit e.p.'s At 03:39 PM 2/27/00 -0600, Paul Christian Glenn wrote: >Point is, all the songs are covers, and I'm wondering if >anyone knows who the bands are that performed the original >tunes. There isn't much in the way of liner notes, but >here's how the songs are credited: > >"Never Turn Your Back On Mother Earth" written by Ron Mael This was by Sparks from their 1974 Island LP, Propaganda. Eric ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 22:30:00 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: Gory Counterfeit e.p.'s Paul Christian Glenn wrote: > I recently picked up Martin Gore's "Counterfeit e.p." from > a used cd store. A friend of mine had it when I was in > high school, and I always really dug it, so I couldn't resist > the $2.99 price tag. Perhaps it's the nostalgia, but I still > find it yummy - Gore's voice is mesmerizing (I always wished > that he would do more lead vocals on DM's records, but nevermind). > > Point is, all the songs are covers, and I'm wondering if > anyone knows who the bands are that performed the original > tunes. There isn't much in the way of liner notes, but > here's how the songs are credited: > > "Compulsion" written by Joe Crow supposedly by, strangely enough, Joe Crow. i've never been able to find anything about him either. a friend of mine says he heard this from Gore's mouth, and he isn't the bsing sort. > "In A Manner Of Speaking" written by Winston Tong TuxedoMoon > "Smile In The Crowd" written by Vinni Reilly 'tis a Durutti Column song; the original is probably just out of print. > "Gone" written by Glaisher/Peake/Fellows/Brown Consat Angels > "Never Turn Your Back On Mother Earth" written by Ron Mael Sparks > "Motherless Child" (Traditional) i kinda remember hearing this was, for want of a better term, an old "negro" spiritual the pre-civil war days, but i don't know that. > > Winston Tong comes up at www.cddb.com as having two > solo records, but neither lists "In A Manner of > Speaking". > > Vinni Reilly is/was apprently involved with a band > called The Durutti Column, but "Smile In the Crowd" > doesn't appear in any of the track lists for their > albums at CDNow. > > Anyone have any insight? > > Paul Christian Glenn pcg@mailandnews.com > Eon Chamber http://eonchamber.virtualave.net > Currently Reading: "The Fated Sky" by Henrietta Branford ===== "America's greatest natural resource still, to this day, is the moron" --Martin Mull __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 11:11:10 -0500 From: The Great Quail Subject: Re: McCartney tribute CD >Posted to another list -- the tentative lineup of artists/bands slated to >participate in the upcoming Paul McCartney tribute CD project (for charity). >>Robyn Hitchcock: Goodbye (prev. unreleased McCartney track) Heh heh heh . . . maybe he'll slip in Lennon's "How Do You Sleep?" - --Quail, in a provocative mood, apparently. PS: Fun LJ-Fact of the day: when she was younger, she practiced synchronized swimming in her pool, and had girlish dreams of being a professional synchronized swimmer. PPS: Alas for my childhood, the Olympics do not recognize Marco Polo as an official event. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The Great Quail, K.S.C. (riverrun Discordian Society, Kibroth-hattaavah Branch) For fun with postmodern literature, New York vampires, and Fegmania, visit Sarnath: http://www.rpg.net/quail "With the quail you had to stay on the move... Quail was king. Only the quail exploded upward into the sky and made your heart bang away so madly in your ribcage." --Tom Wolfe ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V9 #50 ******************************