From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V9 #32 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Monday, February 7 2000 Volume 09 : Number 032 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Dave Lang's Worst Nightmare, Now in Print! [Jon Fetter ] On the anecdotal tip... ["Paul Montagne" ] Re: The Night (0%RH) [Jeff Dwarf ] Glass Hotel is open for business [Bayard ] Re: The Night (0%RH) [lj lindhurst ] Re: ohrwurm etc. [Vivien Lyon ] 2 at ONCE! (Re: The Night (0%RH)) ["Jason R. Thornton" ] Re: ohrwurm etc. [Michael R Godwin ] Re: ohrwurm etc. [Jon Fetter ] Re: earwiggles [Vivien Lyon ] Stoldi rident verbi latini (0% RH) [Christopher Gross ] posting in the style of Eddie today [Bayard ] Re: posting in the style of Eddie today [Capuchin ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2000 15:55:52 -0500 From: Jon Fetter Subject: Dave Lang's Worst Nightmare, Now in Print! I don't even want to imagine what this book is about. http://www.powells.com/cgi-bin/biblio?inkey=1-0962435805-2 - ------------------------------------------------------------------- "Ireland, Scotland, Brittany, Wales, let's go out and count some quails." --TGQ, "The Celtic Quails of Cornwall" (Re-mix by Trevor Horn) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2000 20:40:57 EST From: HSatterfld@aol.com Subject: The Night (0%RH) Natalie Jacobs exclaimed: << np: the last (*sigh*) Morphine record >> I just bought that CD today, so I haven't listened to it yet, but I saw them on their final tour, and am under the impression that some sort of live recording will be coming out eventually. np: Liz Phair Girlysound Demos (woohoo) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2000 18:53:24 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: The Night (0%RH) ><< np: the last (*sigh*) Morphine record >> > >I just bought that CD today, so I haven't listened to it yet, but I saw >them on their final tour, and am under the impression that some sort >of live recording will be coming out eventually. I listened to The Night, earlier today. I still gotta "ehhh" on this band. Their acclaim kinda puzzles me -- I don't hear much going on beyond a vague sense of "atmosphere." Pretty drab stuff. Nice sax licks...that's about it, for me. Eb, who never saw Morphine live but *did* see Treat Her Right...go figger ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2000 18:58:00 -0800 From: "Paul Montagne" Subject: On the anecdotal tip... From: Eb >I saw Cracker last night, mainly because there was a pseudo-Camper Van >Beethoven reunion involved. The opening band ("Jonathan & Victor") included >three ex-CVBers (Jonathan Segal, Victor Krummenacher and Greg Lisher), and >the three popped onstage intermittently during Cracker's set to play some >old CVB tunes (specifically, "Take the Skinheads Bowling," "Ambiguity Song, >"Tania," "Eye of Fatima Pt. 1/Eye of Fatima Pt. 2," "Turquoise Jewelry," >"Pictures of Matchstick Men" and "Sweethearts," if you're curious). Damn, Damn, I woulda loved to have seen that! I'm still amazed at how their music transformed from whacked Balkan polka rock to borderline progressive rock, all over the course of 5 or 6 years. A Stereolab of the 80's. I was fortunate enough to open for CVB when they played Eugene for their second and third tours, and while it was a sobering experience I remeber those shows fondly. I remember them opening w/ ZZTop Goes To Egypt one time and there just was no comparison, our band sucked, and they blew the house down. >I have >to review this show, so I was skimming the CVB albums late last night to >find a few songs whose titles I had forgotten. Wow, those albums hold up >well (apart from a few punk-culture references on the debut). I think CVB >would experience the very same career arc if they debuted today, which is >mildly remarkable. They would've been an instant hit with the college crowd >who currently swoons over lo-fi and Elephant 6. CVB was *so* important to >me, way back when. I agree. Ive always thought that someday, more would look to those albums as lost treasures, and CVB would be frequently quoted as being "really influential". (Isnt this the "Nick Drake" or "Big Star" Phenomena? Hasn't happened though. Maybe the vinyl/CDs being out of print will help. Now it they could just do another tour...They could be reunited along with Donner Party, and as an opener, The Catheads. Call it the Pitch-A-Tent Tour 2000. I'd think that would be definately worth seeing. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2000 21:55:38 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: The Night (0%RH) HSatterfld@aol.com wrote: > Natalie Jacobs exclaimed: > > << np: the last (*sigh*) Morphine record >> > > I just bought that CD today, so I haven't listened to it yet, but I > saw > them on their final tour, and am under the impression that some sort > of live recording will be coming out eventually. and if nothing else,, the CD reissue era has shown us that death is no impediment to continuing to release new albums..... ===== "America's greatest natural resource still, to this day, is the moron" --Martin Mull __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 10:40:47 -0500 (EST) From: Bayard Subject: Glass Hotel is open for business It's back! Let me know if anything appears to not be working. Many more things to be added as time permits! http://glasshotel.net/gh Many thanks again to our wonderful host, atdot.com. =b ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 11:41:27 -0500 From: lj lindhurst Subject: Re: The Night (0%RH) >><< np: the last (*sigh*) Morphine record >> >> >>I just bought that CD today, so I haven't listened to it yet, but I saw >>them on their final tour, and am under the impression that some sort >>of live recording will be coming out eventually. > >I listened to The Night, earlier today. I still gotta "ehhh" on this band. >Their acclaim kinda puzzles me -- I don't hear much going on beyond a vague >sense of "atmosphere." Pretty drab stuff. Nice sax licks...that's about it, >for me. Eb, you have GOT to be kidding! Morphine is one of the greatest bands of the nineties. They have such a distinct sound-- I cannot even count how many cheap imitations of their sound I have heard. It goes far beyond "a vague sense of 'atmosphere.'" They get into a real groove, something that is not quite jazz, not quite rock, but very unique and satisfying, like a good thud in your chest. Mark Sandman was a one-of-a-kind songwriter, too-- he didn't just sing over the music, it was more like he was interacting with it, like a beat poet. And the lyrics-! Very sexy, and yet very trippy. I mean, come on, what can compare with "Head With Wings"? Or "Buena"? Or "Sharks"? Or- my personal favorite- "Honey White"? And man were they great live. I saw them for free at Central Park Summerstage during the "Cure for Pain" tour, and it was such a good show-- everyone was dancing and singing and even non-fans were thoroughly entertained. I love how the one guy played TWO SAXOPHONES at once! Speaking of, I wonder what the other members of the band are doing now? - ------------------ "I got a head with wings floatin around up here above the clouds so far above the ground and the only thing that holds my head to the ground is this one little skinny string I got a head with wings I can see so far I can see so clear you would not believe the view up here I can see so far away I can see the shadows fall across your face I got a head with wings" - ------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 08:36:10 -0800 (PST) From: Vivien Lyon Subject: Re: ohrwurm etc. Mr. Godwin said: > I had no idea that this thread would end up in a multi-lingual > nature > study discussion. All I can contribute is that 'dermaptera' > probably means > 'skin without wings'. It actually means 'skin-wings', as some earwigs have two sets of wings, one of which is filmy and the other of which seems to be thick and skin-like. Like a bat's wings. I'd like to attribute my clarification of the nomenclature to my Latin courses in college, but alas all I remember of those classes is watching 'I, Claudius.' > PS to jmbc: I particularly like that version of '1974' ... I've been using '1974' to clear out an earworm this morning...the theme song to the Facts of Life. Vivien It's been quite successful. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2000 09:08:45 -0800 From: "Jason R. Thornton" Subject: 2 at ONCE! (Re: The Night (0%RH)) At 11:41 AM 2/7/00 -0500, lj lindhurst wrote: > I love how the one guy played TWO SAXOPHONES at once! Didn't Rahsaan Roland Kirk play THREE at once at one point? I've seen Randall Willis of the B Sharp Jazz Quartet play two saxophones at once and, while a tad gimmicky, it's still quite impressive. I've got a friend, Jimmy Patton, who plays two guitars at once. And he doesn't even use his feet. - --Jason, who can't even play one clarinet at once. "Only the few know the sweetness of the twisted apples." - Sherwood Anderson ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2000 09:17:12 -0800 From: "Jason R. Thornton" Subject: earwiggles At 08:36 AM 2/7/00 -0800, Vivien Lyon wrote: >I'd like to attribute my clarification of the nomenclature to my >Latin courses in college, but alas all I remember of those >classes is watching 'I, Claudius.' I actually received some "A+"s in Latin during college, and I remember close to nothing. The only thing I can attribute to my university Latin is an appreciation for the graffiti gag in "Life of Brian." - --Jason "insect mother" Thornton "Only the few know the sweetness of the twisted apples." - Sherwood Anderson ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 18:05:53 +0000 (GMT) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: ohrwurm etc. On Mon, 7 Feb 2000, Vivien Lyon wrote: > I'd like to attribute my clarification of the nomenclature to my > Latin courses in college, but alas all I remember of those > classes is watching 'I, Claudius.' Dubbed into Latin, I suppose? Which reminds me that the late great Paul Jennings once wrote an article proposing a Latin-language epic movie - it was full of lines like 'Dona me fracturam, mel' ('Give me a break, honey') and 'Cape illud!' ('Take that!'). I'll try and dig it out sometime. - - Mike Godwin PS Kent Duchaine last night, Fascinating Aida tonight - Godwin now back in the non-stop entertainment lifestyle ... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 13:54:25 -0500 From: Jon Fetter Subject: Re: ohrwurm etc. >It actually means 'skin-wings', as some earwigs have two sets of >wings, one of which is filmy and the other of which seems to be >thick and skin-like. Like a bat's wings. Ditto. "-aptera" means "lacking wings" like Siphonaptera (fleas), but in the case of Dermaptera we have "derma" + "ptera." "-ptera" means wings, like Lepidoptera (butterflies), Coleoptera (beetles), Dermoptera (flying squirrels or something like that), Glosterptera (the horribly endangered James Dignan), etc. Jon, who can't remember any of the Aeneid np: Anton Barbeau, "Waterbugs and Beetles" - ------------------------------------------------------------------- "Ireland, Scotland, Brittany, Wales, let's go out and count some quails." --TGQ, "The Celtic Quails of Cornwall" (Re-mix by Trevor Horn) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 11:04:56 -0800 (PST) From: Vivien Lyon Subject: Re: earwiggles - --- "Jason R. Thornton" wrote: > I actually received some "A+"s in Latin during college, and I > remember > close to nothing. The only thing I can attribute to my > university Latin is > an appreciation for the graffiti gag in "Life of Brian." Me too! I got A's too! Hooray for me! I am so smart! S-M-R-T! Well, not that smart...I never really understood conjugation. Verb conjugation, that is. I have varying degrees of familiarity and facility with other kinds of conjugation. Magister Godwin scribe: >>Dubbed into Latin, I suppose? Which reminds me that the late great Paul Jennings once wrote an article proposing a Latin-language epic movie - it was full of lines like 'Dona me fracturam, mel' ('Give me a break, honey') and 'Cape illud!' ('Take that!'). I'll try and dig it out sometime.>> Not dubbed into Latin. She was a pretty undemanding Latin magistra, because the university was about a hairsbreadth away from cutting the classics altogether, and she wanted the classes to be 'accessible' (read- easy as hell) so that people would continue to register for them. She was a decent person, though. She named her firstborn 'Ransom' after the main character of C.S. Lewis' Out of the Silent Planet trilogy. Vivien ps- You've gotta unearth that article, Mike. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 14:35:50 -0500 (EST) From: Christopher Gross Subject: Stoldi rident verbi latini (0% RH) On Mon, 7 Feb 2000, Vivien Lyon wrote: > --- "Jason R. Thornton" wrote: > > I actually received some "A+"s in Latin during college, and I > > remember > > close to nothing. The only thing I can attribute to my > > university Latin is > > an appreciation for the graffiti gag in "Life of Brian." > > Me too! I got A's too! Hooray for me! I am so smart! S-M-R-T! Me three! Actually my one year of Latin was in high school, but fairly well-taught nevertheless. I can't claim to remember much of it now, but it has been very useful in helping me understand and remember the titles of various Latin works that popped up in history classes. It also gave me an advantage later in studying Russian, which is another highly inflected language. My year of Latin happened to coincide with the height of my Pink Floyd obsession, so naturally I tried to translate "Another Brick In the Wall Pt. II" into Latin. I remember spending most of a lunch period debating whether the "you're" in "you're just another brick in the wall" should be singular or plural. Mention must be made of _Winnie ille Pu_, the only Latin book yet to hit the New York Times bestseller list. "Stultus et delusus fui, et ursus sine ullo cerebro sum." - --Christopher Magnus ______________________________________________________________________ Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 11:44:02 -0800 (PST) From: Vivien Lyon Subject: 1/2 at ONCE!!! and other things - --- "Jason R. Thornton" wrote: > I've seen Randall Willis of the B Sharp Jazz Quartet play two > saxophones at > once and, while a tad gimmicky, it's still quite impressive. I've seen a guy play half a saxophone at once. It was Mats Gustaffson (or something like that), and he bit, hissed, and clanked that thing (which was physically whole and complete) every which way he could, but I don't think he ever produced what could be called an actual note. > --Jason, who can't even play one clarinet at once. Aha! We may both have gotten A's in Latin, but I'm one up on you now! I can play one clarinet at once! I can also play the bassoon (also limited to only one at a time). Our household's musical ensemble now contains: two (low-quality) guitars, a trumpet, a clarinet, many recorders and tin whistles, a slide whistle, a crab-shaped harmonica, and an orange electric chord organ, the recent purchase of which inspired me to write a song. It starts like this: "I bought an organ in Oregon, it didn't cost me too much. I bought an organ in Oregon, and it plays at the slightest touch...." And it just goes downhill from there. Added to which, it's a country song. Vivien every song I write is turning out to be a country song. Help. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 15:05:47 -0500 (EST) From: Bayard Subject: posting in the style of Eddie today > a slide whistle, a crab-shaped harmonica, and an orange electric so, do you blow into the crab's ass, or does the music come out of his ass? =b anyone else in DC metro area wanna see the old 97's tomorrow? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 12:24:30 -0800 (PST) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: posting in the style of Eddie today On Mon, 7 Feb 2000, Bayard wrote: > > a slide whistle, a crab-shaped harmonica, and an orange electric > so, do you blow into the crab's ass, or does the music come out of his > ass? Well, neither, of course, because a crab's ass isn't situated in a place well-suited to blowing. But for your information, the crab faces away from the blower. Viv, you've got a slide whistle? Is it as nice as my pretty metal slide whistle? Have I seen it? Not paying attention to his own home, J. - -- ______________________________________________ J A Brelin Capuchin ______________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 12:51:49 -0800 (PST) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: posting in the style of Eddie today On Mon, 7 Feb 2000, Viv wrote: > a slide whistle, a crab-shaped harmonica, and an orange electric On Mon, 7 Feb 2000, I stupidly wrote: > Viv, you've got a slide whistle? Is it as nice as my pretty metal slide > whistle? Have I seen it? I guess she was, in fact, referring to my slide whistle and that list was meant to be comprehensive and include all instruments in the house. However, I'm sure it misses some of mine, the only one of which I recall right now is my wooden flute. Enough talk of flutes and whistles. I'm ordering my SCMS bitstripper this week. If Nick Winkworth is around, he should write to me. J. - -- ______________________________________________ J A Brelin Capuchin ______________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 13:07:54 -0800 From: Eb Subject: re: anecdotal Someone: >Now it they could just do another tour...They could be reunited along with >Donner Party, and as an opener, The Catheads. Call it the Pitch-A-Tent Tour >2000. I'd think that would be definately worth seeing. The Cat Heads weren't ever connected with Pitch-A-Tent, were they? I know the two albums were on Restless. I still have them on vinyl -- the second one (Submarine) was one of the last albums I remember which was never issued on CD. I saw the Cat Heads play once, in Long Beach. The audience was literally about seven people. Even at the time, they were overlooked. I still remember that Rudy Vallee-esque hidden track on Submarine: "Fuuuuck yewwwww/You're too dull to even argue with...." Heh. I wish I was better at adhering to that wisdom. LJ: >Eb, you have GOT to be kidding! Morphine is one of the greatest >bands of the nineties. They have such a distinct sound-- I cannot >even count how many cheap imitations of their sound I have heard. I kinda feel like *their* sound is a cheap imitation. ;) Eb ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V9 #32 ******************************