From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V9 #8 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Monday, January 10 2000 Volume 09 : Number 008 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: eb all over the phone, bolding [Bayard ] more on miro ["Faecal Emergency" ] rock! [Natalie Jacobs ] David Crosby and Melissa Etheridge! [tanter ] Re: the music tapes still bad [Charles Gillett ] Reissues/Wu/Buchan/Enz [digja611@student.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan)] re: foldingbone.com (and odds'n'ends) [overbury@cn.ca] Re: who is wu? ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Re: foldingbone.com ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Re: my wu-name; the music tapes still bad ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Yo, homies it's me, Bilious Bad, the world heavyweight of rap bringing joy to the world, but to the ski resorts first... [] Beatles Trivia Question [mrrunion@palmnet.net] Hola Feggos! [Tom Clark ] Re: more on miro [Tom Clark ] Re: who is wu? [Glen Uber ] eb, will, and holly (on a routine expedition) ["Faecal Emergency" Subject: Re: eb all over the phone, bolding On Sun, 9 Jan 2000, Faecal Emergence wrote: > . > > > gotta love paragraphs 5, 7 and 9 as well! not to mention paragraph 4! man, i can hardly wait to get back to work and have fast net acces again. just hook it to my vein! =b np: http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/11/tears_for_beers.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2000 14:15:34 PST From: "Faecal Emergency" Subject: more on miro . ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2000 17:55:23 -0500 (EST) From: Natalie Jacobs Subject: rock! > the music tapes aren't bad in an amusing way at all. My grandma told me to spend my Hanukah money "foolishly" so I picked up a copy of the Music Tapes record for $8 - I was curious to see if it was as bad as I remembered from listening to it at the station. The little comic inside is way cool - it was drawn by Brian Dewan (the autoharpist who was also responsible for Neutral Milk Hotel's "flying Victrola") and it looks remarkably like Robyn's artwork. The record also comes with a nifty pop-up thingy which appears to be a Photoshop collage. But the music... um. Well, there's a few songs that are OK, and the concept is imaginative, but all in all it's pretty dreary stuff. The album is only 40 minutes long but it's so turgid that it feels a lot longer. I'm going to keep the record, because I want to keep the comic and the pop-up thing, but I don't know if I'll be listening to it all that often. n. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2000 19:29:38 -0600 From: tanter Subject: David Crosby and Melissa Etheridge! Turns out, the father of ME's children is David Crosby! Well, technically they're the biological children of her partner and Crosby, but she's still their parent. Wow. I hope all those years of drugs and alcohol didn't damage the creative DNA in his sperm! ;) Marcy ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2000 21:00:45 -0600 (CST) From: Charles Gillett Subject: Re: the music tapes still bad On Sat, 08 Jan 2000 21:28:27 GMT, "shane apple" wrote: > somebody (jeff, cookie, or sebastian) asked whether the music tapes > are bad in a way that a person who likes bad music might like them. > i'm not really sure what that means. I was curious as to whether it was interesting despite being bad, or if it was uninteresting as well as bad. It seems like no one finds it very interesting. > i have no idea why anybody would keep a chart showing how often they > listened to their c.d.s. i'm not sure i get this one at all. i can tell > you that i've heard the beckster c.d. about 500 times since it came out > which blows that person's (jeff, cookie, sebastian?) magnetic fields > thing away. i'm not sure what this proves. You win the big teddy bear. - -- Charles ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 16:48:40 +0100 From: digja611@student.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) Subject: Reissues/Wu/Buchan/Enz >The thread about the top reissues of 1999 has been fun (what, no >mention of the Rush reissues? Those sounded great. And Rhino's >deluxe reissue of The Cars first album was top-notch. And those >Sinatra reissues were great, too.), but I'd like to start another: >which remasters are past due? well, AFAIK the first few Beatles albums are still only available in CD in mono. And the masterful Byrds reissues only did the first eight albums. I'd like to see reissues of Cream's albums, too. >I like the "law of fives" number, but whatthehell is a Buchan? A supporter >of the antichrist/presidential candidate, or the former president from >Pennsylvania? former Canadian Governor-General and nobvelist - writer of The 39 Steps. I have it on reliable information this book is not a self-help programme.Nor is it about the walk taken by victorious FA Cup teams. As for "Who is Wu?", he's an adventurous multimillionaire in Larry Niven's "Known Space" stories. >I think Split Enz should reform once every year for a concert - it should >be a global broadcast. Robyn could be a guest, of course. Sounds great! But...hmm. He'd probably ask Neil to drum... James(who apparently - according to wunames - is Ol' filthy sweaty bastard! So, coincidentally, is my partner, Alice. My workmate Donovan is, however, the Eight-legged DJ... ) James Dignan___________________________________ You talk to me Deptmt of Psychology, Otago University As if from a distance ya zhivu v' 50 Norfolk Street And I reply. . . . . . . . . . Dunedin, New Zealand with impressions chosen from another time steam megaphone (03) 455-7807 (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2000 23:17:29 -0500 From: overbury@cn.ca Subject: re: foldingbone.com (and odds'n'ends) The "odds'n'ends" are because I've been automatically de-listed again somehow, and I'm getting my fix from the www archives. wooooooooj! Jeme said: >A good thing doesn't hurt anybody. But yes, sometimes bad things >have good consequences. I was gonna let that slide until I got the chance to read the fillostofy battle that followed. Take that back, Jeme -- might sound good but it's not what happens. Some good things hurt some people a whole lot sometimes. Good is relative. Of more importance than an acceptable definition of "good" is my recent discovery that my wu-name (hey, is that wu as in wu-tang or what?) is Sullen Choirboy. I was rather pleased until I read somebody else got the "Choirboy" part. Hmmph. We need a fegname generator. Some otherfeg's wu-name is Bastard BASTARD Harbourmaster. Heh heh heh! What else? My VeeJay Beatles LP is a fake. Thanks Susan. Really! NP: Some old guru guru ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 08:57:22 +0000 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: who is wu? Jon Fetter wrote: > > Jonathan Fetter= Tha 23rd Buchan > > I like the "law of fives" number, but whatthehell is a Buchan? Apart from the author John Buchan (fascist-Lite author of robust spy adventures such as The 39 Steps), I'm not sure. Probably something Scottish (and therefore quality). Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 09:00:17 +0000 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: foldingbone.com Sounds like you had as shitty a New Year as I did. 45 minutes into the new year, I hit a pothole and took out the front wheel of the hire car. It's kind of fun changing the wheel of an odd French car in the dark with fireworks (which I loathe) when it's cold and there's no manual. Not. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 09:10:21 +0000 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: my wu-name; the music tapes still bad shane apple wrote: > > i reckon it's still a dull listen for anybody If anyone wants to hear some Music Tapes that is actually quite good, in a quaintly quirky way, then their first 7" 'The Television Tells Us / Reindeer Song' is fun, and probably cheaper than the CD (unless it's in a bargain bin). You'll need one of those big mechanical crackly things to play it, though. Julian Koster has hand-lettered and illustrated all the Music Tapes (and Chocolate USA, for that matter) liners. Seeing that his spelling is dreadful, and his artwork, um, "naïve", it doesn't really project a very slick image. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 09:19:44 +0000 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: for all you weenies... Bayard wrote: > > looks like you can now store 10 hours of cd-quality audio on a disc... for > real! (not mp3!) I'm more interested in AMACDYS, an MP3-playing operating system that fits on a floppy or bootable CD. With a cheapo motherboard and a CD-ROM, you got yourself a 10-hour jukebox. Sadly, the AMACDYS web site is down at the moment, so I can't give you the link. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 10:31:01 -0500 From: "Thomas, Ferris" Subject: RE: who is wu? amoung others, Jonathan announced: > > Jonathan Fetter= Tha 23rd Buchan Ol` Filthy, Sweaty Bastard ______________________________________ Ferris Scott Thomas programmer 860.409.2612 McGraw-Hill Technology Division Farmington, CT mailto:ferris_thomas@mcgraw-hill.com (work) mailto:ferris@snet.net (home) Here's too small a pasture for such store of mutton -PROTEUS The Two Gentleman of Verona, I.i ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 08:08:56 -0800 From: Mark_Gloster@3com.com Subject: Yo, homies it's me, Bilious Bad, the world heavyweight of rap bringing joy to the world, but to the ski resorts first... Well, no, actually I'm still Sharkboy, but Bilious Bad- even better with two d's- would be a good rap name for me, should I decide to abandon musical persuits. The annual Sharkboy sojorn to mountain states tour is about to commence. I am arriving in Salt Lake City on Monday the 14th. I may be in Utah for the remainder of January or head into Colorado for more mahem sometime after the 22nd. If any of y'all Utah/Colo fegs and youse all feggery are not terrified by the thought of getting together, I think it would be fun to meet ya. I will probably be doing a lot of skiing. All the best, - -Bilious B(J) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 11:00:58 -0800 From: mrrunion@palmnet.net Subject: Beatles Trivia Question Hey all, Here's another one. Just so's ya know, our local coffeshop tosses out a trivia question a week, and the owner John is trying to make 'em harder. I'm sorta daring him to stump the mighty feglist, so here goes... What group (& which songs of theirs) inspired Lennon & McCartney to write "Here, There & Everywhere"? Email me privately if ya want. Mike np. Michelle Shocked - Short Sharp Shocked (1988) - ----- Sent using MailStart.com ( http://MailStart.Com/welcome.html ) The FREE way to access your mailbox via any web browser, anywhere! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 13:08:41 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Hola Feggos! Unfortunately, I'm back from Costa Rica. I can't say enough about what a beautiful and friendly place it is. We spent five days on the Pacific coast, two inland at Arenal Volcano, then two on the Carribean coast. Among the many highlights: at the stroke of midnight on New Year's, I stripped naked and plunged into the Pacific ocean. Photos forthcoming. It's good to see all you fegs survived. I'm looking forward to another great year with you. - -tc p.s. In the United Airlines flight magazine they list all their inflight audio channels, one of which is "Acoustic Sunrise". One of the selections there is RH's "I Saw Nick Drake", which they list as coming from "Rare Jewels". ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 13:14:43 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: more on miro On 1/9/2000 2:15 PM, Faecal Emergency wrote: >i?4054,,miroslav,satan,nhl,sabres,,>. For the record, Miroslav Satan's surname is pronounced "Sha-TAAN" - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 13:13:49 -0800 From: Glen Uber Subject: Re: who is wu? on 08.01.00 12:27, Bayard wrote: > that's fun, wonder how it works. I took the liberty of looking up the > fegs. looks pretty accurate: Mine is Vangelic Surgeon. Does that mean I operate exclusively on Greek keyboardists? Cheers! - -g- "If music makes people do things, how come we don't all love each other?" - --Frank Zappa, addressing Tipper Gore at the PMRC hearings, 1986 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Glen Uber uberg@sonic.net http://www.sonic.net/~uberg ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 13:42:50 PST From: "Faecal Emergency" Subject: eb, will, and holly (on a routine expedition) that's fine. but of course, we aren't exposed to *either*. and in the main, i feel like, if you want to see how people brush their teeth in other parts of the world, that's why we have anthropology classes, or novels, or cinema. if you want to see how *policy* will *affect* the way those people brush their teeth, that's why we have newspapers. it's pretty apparent that we won't achieve the latter without achieving the former. if you don't believe *me*, ask somebody in guatemala, or vietnam, or greece, or chile, or iran, etc., etc., etc.. could you give some examples? not trying to put you on the spot or anything: i'm genuinely curious. offlist is fine, if you prefer. agreed, although it's still better than nothing, considering how thoroughly we've destroyed so many lives and nations. however, i think you may have missed my points, viz., i think people *are* empathetic, and, the reason the complete devastation by the united states of iraqi society, for example, isn't newsworthy is that it would likely lead to people asking *why*. <> a while and I think of Chechnyans as "those folks that fight all the >time".> >that's just straight-up bullshit. It's not. If you ask someone what's going on in Chechnya right now, they'll say "folks are fightin'".> probably. and probably because it happens to be true. but that's a *very* different animal from saying that people think of chechnyans as "those folks that fight all the time". i guess i don't feel like you give people enough credit. whereas you seem to assume that they're incapable of figuring these things out on their own, i assume that they are quite capable of doing so. <> >more gibberish. More ebbish dismissal.> you're right. i apologise. kind of the opposite, actually. i'm saying that, for example, when you go buy a can of pepsi, it doesn't say anywhere on the label that the product uses a sweetener made with scab labor. that when somebody invests some money somewhere, there's a good chance it'll be used for pretty nefarious ends. that, in other words, we *don't* see the tyranny of the system; and not seeing it, are much less likely to question it than if we did. which, to bring it back around to the point, is a sort of banality. our lives are so suffused with commodification that it's more less taken for granted. this may be our biggest point of contention, and i suppose we'll just have to disagree on it. i'll concede that you're right to an extent, that being the extent to which we're spoonfed a bunch of racist lies every time the country gears up for another fucking war. but i think our chauvinism, while it can be frighteningly broad, is really not very deep. again, i've got to disagree. witness the brouhaha over the kathy lee gifford story, for example. or the relative explosion of "sweatshop-free" labeling, or the big show by nike to (falsely) demonstrate the marked improvement of conditions in its indonesian factories. and of course, by contrast, we *don't* have to go to other countries to witness absolutely brutal labour conditions. it abounds right here in the u.s.a.. it doesn't stop people from buying american goods, which indicates that we've a long way to go. but i don't think the distinction between domestic and offshore barbarities holds much water. um, whose dreams? those of the bosses? i think we've a right to ask how valid are any dreams that negatively effect tons and tons of people. well, just to be clear. there's a precedent for convicted war criminals being hanged. not saying i'd endorse it, but you can bet that western leaders would have called for milosevic to be executed; but the notion that clinton, blair, albright et al. are guilty of the same crimes and therefore deserving of the same punishment is considered "ridiculous", to quote the state department. but remember, i find this latest development cause for celebration *not* because a couple of fuckheads might go to prison, but because it could potentially lead to the u.s. conceding to pay reparations, and it could potentially deter future military agressions. okay, i guess i see your point. but, again, if we're talking about bringing some justice to a world in which same is sorely lacking, then it's a trifle difficult not to get just a little giddy at the prospects. and i honestly don't think it has anything to do with vengeance. it's nothing personal against bill clinton, for example. it's more the symbolic victory that's cause for celebration. <> same with the wto, in essence. the talks collapsed because the >delegates from the third world countries, emboldned by the tens of >thousands of dissenters in the streets, refused to take it in the >shorts again. this is not speculation or interpretation. this is >exactly what they've said. What the FUCK are you talking about?> well, like i said: it's not speculation or interpretation. it's exactly what they've said. the issue is a *lot* more complex than you're implying. what it boils down to is what capitalism itself boils down to in the year 2000: rhetoric aside, the rich countries want as much protection/public subsidy as they can possibly get, and they want as little as possible of the same for the poor countries. the proposed labour and environmental regulations, if enacted, should have been another spectacular form of protectionism for the rich, for reasons that are fairly obvious. the point, of course, isn't that labour and environmental conditions in the third world today are something to write home about. they're not. but those conditions were created by the system *imposed* upon the third world by the first (and, it's true, in the specific case of the uruguay round there was quite a bit of ignorance on the part of the third world as to the eventual fallout of signing on to the wto). for a good, if brief, overview of the immediate issues surrounding the collapse of the seattle talks (from a third world perspective), see . and the third world network's site offers quite a bit of valubale, in-depth analysis of seattle, the wto, etc.. additionally, its publication Third World Economics, while a bit pricey, should really be considered essential reading for anyone interested in the general topic. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 14:08:51 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: eb, will, and holly (on a routine expedition) "Daddy, do something...AAAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!" Eb PS This new Sonic Youth album is *fascinating*. Did anyone else buy it? Quail? Charles G.? I think I'm moving it to #14 on my year-end list, just one notch ahead of that "Sophia" deal. I worried that it might be "boring," but I don't think so at all. It's just too bad the packaging is so no-budget -- I'm going to have to do some websearching, if I'm going to at all understand the schematics behind some of these pieces. And the CDs are so hard to take out of the pockets -- especially without scratching.... ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V9 #8 *****************************