From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V9 #6 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Saturday, January 8 2000 Volume 09 : Number 006 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Remasters which should happen ["Gene Hopstetter, Jr." ] hypoglycaemia ["foldingbone.com" ] Re: hypoglycaemia [MARKEEFE@aol.com] I apologize if my casual remark caused you lightheadedness, good sir [Viv] Lake of Fire, Millennium, Steven Wright, belated RIP [digja611@student.ot] Re: hypoglycaemia [Eb ] Re: hypoglycaemia [Capuchin ] Re: hypoglycaemia [steve ] Re: "Jesse," the scourge of tv [Eb ] Re: hypoglycaemia [MARKEEFE@aol.com] hi my name is woj and i'm an addict [fartachu ] RIP [Jeff Dwarf ] Re: hypoglycaemia [Bayard ] for all you weenies... [Bayard ] radio, radio [Natalie Jacobs ] who is wu? [Bayard ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 13:27:10 -0600 From: "Gene Hopstetter, Jr." Subject: Remasters which should happen The thread about the top reissues of 1999 has been fun (what, no mention of the Rush reissues? Those sounded great. And Rhino's deluxe reissue of The Cars first album was top-notch. And those Sinatra reissues were great, too.), but I'd like to start another: which remasters are past due? For example, where are the 20-bit remastered Leonard Cohen albums? Those cruddy old Columbia CDs have gotta go. And Tom Waits, isn't it time his back catalog was cleaned up and re-released? Sheesh. I do imagine that the job queue at those remastering services is quite long, though. Maybe these CDs are for sale only in England, like the new remastered Black Sabbath CDs (which are replete with original artwork and sundry b-sides, mmm tasty). More better sounding CDs now, please. Thank you. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 15:18:13 -0600 From: "bret" Subject: Re: hey... W. Plesant content (and RH sort-of) > > heh...... Ann Arbor eh? You guys play some Wally Pleasant up there? > > I do. I don't know if anyone else does. > > I'm particularly fond of "Hippie's Lament" and "The Day Ted Nugent Shot > All the Animals." > heh.... I suspected as much........nice guy..... pretty funny........ and a pretty big Robyn fan...... his old band (with Alex Lumelsky) used to do a cover of listening to the higsons.......... I remember him, ALex, and I sitting around a real crappy room in Austin one nite with old worn out guitars, (ok, so only mine was old and worn out) playing and singing misc Robyn (and other songs we won't mention here) songs...... good nite, twas about as drunk as I have ever been.......... hey, I did pull Robyn into it eh? __________________________________________ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2000 15:12:50 PST From: "foldingbone.com" Subject: hypoglycaemia while i thought it was rather ingenious of whoever-it-was that abruptly decided to have switched to daylight savings time in response to whoever-it-was that had unilaterally repositioned a section of the international dateline, i'm still incredulous that *anybody* could think that *anybody* could give a fuckall which landmass was the first to witness the year 2000. unless there'd been some sort of corporate sponsorship up for grabs, i suppose. let me just wipe this tear from my eye. now you're just talking gibberish. any media with any sort of nuts whatever, if attemtping to truly "put things in perspective"; rather than subjecting us to 'round-the-clock coverage of various inane "celebrations" of a completely artificial and arbitrary global "event", should have offered continous coverage of the russian blitz of chechnya, for example. or of another fucking u.s. bombing of iraq. or of the continuing deterioration of yugoslavia in the wake of the u.s. bombing and in the presence of the u.s. occupation. or of the "low-intensity" warfare being waged (with u.s.-supplied weaponry) upon peasants in central and south america. or of all the poor schmucks going back to work in their toxic cesspools monday morning, creating fineries for the western world. or of any of a bajillion other insanities that one could uncover without having to think too terribly long and/or hard. or, hell, if we're duty-bound to only think happy thoughts, only be presented with good news, during the holidays; how about the best news of the young millennium: that the yugoslavia war crimes tribunal is proceeding with an investigation of nato. triple this with pinochet's malaise, and the complete collapse of the wto talks in seattle, and, yes, perhaps we *do* have cause (if ever-so-slight) to celebrate. my nomination for most nauseating paragraph of 1999: "France has a long history with Algerian terrorism. The colonial power in the North African country since 1830, France tried to crush an armed independence movement there in the 1950s but granted Algeria independence in 1962." KEN "There's no more Reds in the union" THE KENSTER ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 18:36:42 EST From: MARKEEFE@aol.com Subject: Re: hypoglycaemia In a message dated 1/7/00 3:20:29 PM Pacific Standard Time, etews@hotmail.com writes: << now you're just talking gibberish. any media with any sort of nuts whatever, if attemtping to truly "put things in perspective"; rather than subjecting us to 'round-the-clock coverage of various inane "celebrations" of a completely artificial and arbitrary global "event", should have offered continous coverage of the russian blitz of chechnya, for example. >> Eddie, I love ya, and being concerned with the problems of the world can be a good thing, but LIGHTEN THE HELL UP!!!! Or take a day off once a millennium. Er sumthin'. - ------Michael K. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 15:42:36 -0800 (PST) From: Vivien Lyon Subject: I apologize if my casual remark caused you lightheadedness, good sir - --- "foldingbone.com" wrote: Re: globalocity of fauxmillenium > now you're just talking gibberish. any media with any sort of > nuts > whatever, if attemtping to truly "put things in perspective"; > rather than > subjecting us to 'round-the-clock coverage of various inane > "celebrations" > of a completely artificial and arbitrary global "event", Actually no more artificial or arbitrary than any other event brought about by a group of people (in this case, a very large group). Yes, the corporations had a huge hand in sponsoring, promoting, funding, etc. the 'celebrations' that went on around the world, and many people were left out, not interested, or had nothing to celebrate. What I meant by global event wasn't that it included every person in every country, or was celebration-worthy for everyone, but that it included more countries and more people in those countries than ever before. Of course I can't prove that, and have no idea what the benefit is even if it's true. That's just how it seemed to me. I too would have liked to have seen more honest coverage of these places presented, rather than a couple cameras trained on some fireworks. Nevertheless, I was overwhelmed by the sheer enormity of it. Guess I'm just a dumb yokel. Vivien ps- Where is the Capitalism Blows of yesteryear? 'Foldingbone' is rather oblique and dandified for such a straightforward person as you, Mr. Tews. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 13:07:16 +0100 From: digja611@student.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) Subject: Lake of Fire, Millennium, Steven Wright, belated RIP >> >"If you find yourself laughing at this story, think about this: where will >> >YOU spend eternity? In heaven? Or in the LAKE OF FIRE?!" -J. Chick >> won't see 'em again, till the fourth of July... > >You know, my ex-roommate actually thought that was a Nirvana song. I >could have cried. well, he'd probably only heard it on Nivana's unplugged album, although I'm pretty sure they introduce it there as a Meat Puppets song. Re: Steven Wright, thanks to Cap, Marc, Dave, Michael, Jeff, Marcy,Paul, jbmc, Hal, and anyone else whom I've forgotten, who gave me pointers towards his stuff. >That night (morning?) as we were getting ready for bed, Viv noted that >it was, in her memory, the first truly global event. I had to agree and >I'm still thinking about that. You really did get a sense of the planet >revolving... of time passing and of humanity sharing an experience. And >it's not like watching Neil Armstrong in 1969 because it isn't the world >living vicariously through one man, it was each person in the world >sharing in how the others celebrate a thing that we seemed to all be >celebrating. > >I'm hoping this happens every new year. I think it would do us very >much good to see the rest of the planet once a year. Just to put things >in perspective. agreed, even if it's on a smaller scale (say a couple places in each time zone for midnight, and a couple more for dawn ceremonies).It's probably the first time since Live Aid that TV has made me feel like we all live on the same planet. >> Anyhoo, I hope you all had great ones. It's good to be back. > >It's good to HAVE you back. aw shucks, thanks Cap!It's only temporary - I'll be on holiday from the 16th until about Feb 7th (driving round the North Island), but then I'll be back on a more permanent basis. and a belated RIP - I've just discovered that Madeline Kahn died during December. James James Dignan___________________________________ You talk to me Deptmt of Psychology, Otago University As if from a distance ya zhivu v' 50 Norfolk Street And I reply. . . . . . . . . . Dunedin, New Zealand with impressions chosen from another time steam megaphone (03) 455-7807 (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 16:37:06 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: hypoglycaemia >to put things in perspective. I'd really love to see this cliche abolished from the Earth. :) Eb ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 17:26:12 -0800 (PST) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: hypoglycaemia On Fri, 7 Jan 2000, foldingbone.com wrote: > < That night (morning?) as we were getting ready for bed, Viv noted > that it was, in her memory, the first truly global event. I had to > agree and I'm still thinking about that. You really did get a sense > of the planet revolving... of time passing and of humanity sharing > an experience. And it's not like watching Neil Armstrong in 1969 > because it isn't the world living vicariously through one man, it > was each person in the world sharing in how the others celebrate a > thing that we seemed to all be celebrating.> > let me just wipe this tear from my eye. eddie, you, of all people, should not be mocking compassion and the spirit of cooperation. Your entire worldview depends on people seeing their common strengths and common frailties. Or do you just want to bitch about capitalism, greed and unequal distribution without actually embracing the quality of sharing, that one thing that impels a person against those things you bitch about? > very much good to see the rest of the planet once a year. Just to > put things in perspective.> > now you're just talking gibberish. any media with any sort of nuts > whatever, if attemtping to truly "put things in perspective"; rather > than subjecting us to 'round-the-clock coverage of various inane > "celebrations" of a completely artificial and arbitrary global > "event", should have offered continous coverage of the russian blitz > of chechnya, for example. > or of any of a bajillion other insanities that one could uncover > without having to think too terribly long and/or hard. And that sort of view of the world does nothing to enhance compassion, understanding or any other idea that encourages people to think that all folks DESERVE to be treated somewhat equally. Showing nothing but the sensational and devastating events in the world actually decreases empathy. Americans, for example, see Somalia or Chechnya on television every day for a while and I think of Chechnyans as "those folks that fight all the time". We don't get to see them also as "those folks that make dinner and have children and laugh and tell stories and go to work and talk on the phone and share, in some form or another, just about 90% of the experiences I have... Those people that are human, like me, but don't live in my neighborhood or in my culture or on my hemisphere, but people". When I was watching the midnight hour circle the earth (and then dawn hours later), I saw people going about their lives. I saw that while it's five or six pm here, the sun's coming up in Egypt and people are coming out and getting ready for a new day. And those people wake up and have to clean up after their party and have to worry about getting the kids dressed and fed and everything else people think about the world over. And while, intellectually, I knew that all along people have been doing the same things for thousands of years, this drove it home in a new way. People need to see the banal as well as the extraordinary. People need to see how much they have in common before they inequality. > or, hell, if we're duty-bound to only think happy thoughts, only be > presented with good news, during the holidays; how about the best > news of the young millennium: that the yugoslavia war crimes > tribunal is proceeding with an investigation of nato. triple this > with pinochet's malaise, and the complete collapse of the wto talks > in seattle, and, yes, perhaps we *do* have cause (if ever-so-slight) > to celebrate. eddie, those are not good things. They further your causes and perhaps will bring about good change, but they are all negative. They are people being punished and dreams being squashed. I know that these could very well be bad people with evil dreams, but they are negative things. A good thing doesn't hurt anybody. But yes, sometimes bad things have good consequences. So, yes, Eb and eddie, showing people around the world doing something similar does throw suffering into perspective. J. PS. The Olympics? Eb, I should have counted on a professional spectator to miss the difference between watching someone do a spectacular thing and sharing a common action. You don't watch the Olympics and think about how you're going to go out and run a 4 minute mile tomorrow. You do not share the experience with the people of Australia or Greece. You share the observation. There's an important difference between doing and watching. - -- ______________________________________________ J A Brelin Capuchin ______________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 19:40:06 -0600 From: steve Subject: Re: hypoglycaemia >I'm hoping this happens every new year. I think Split Enz should reform once every year for a concert - it should be a global broadcast. Robyn could be a guest, of course. - - Steve _______________ We're all Jesus, Buddha, and the Wizard of Oz! - Andy Partridge ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 18:03:14 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: "Jesse," the scourge of tv Capuchin: >You don't watch the >Olympics and think about how you're going to go out and run a 4 minute >mile tomorrow. Well, not *exactly*, but during the run of the Olympics, millions of spectators suddenly become a little more concerned about how fit they are, and start thinking "Hey, maybe I should take up [jogging, weightlifting, basketball...] again." I betcha the traffic in gyms and health clubs rises noticeably during the Olympics period. >You do not share the experience with the people of >Australia or Greece. Well, we didn't really share the Millennium either, because of the time-zone warp. I think the "globalness" of the event actually dampened the impact in a way, because instead of one great cathartic moment of transition, we experienced a trail of "falling dominos." When it struck midnight here, it kinda felt to me like "OK, yet another time zone changes over...let's see, I guess Hawaii is about all that's left?" >You share the observation. There's an important >difference between doing and watching. I was at a celebration in a local bar/grill, when the clock struck midnight. If I had been there to cheer a sporting event instead, the experience would've been identical. They're both just excuses to get together and party. Either way, *you* aren't achieving anything, and are only cheering an external event. I *watched* the new year begin -- I'm not sure how you can say that you "did" the new year instead. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 21:08:11 EST From: MARKEEFE@aol.com Subject: Re: hypoglycaemia In a message dated 1/7/00 5:33:11 PM Pacific Standard Time, capuchin@speakeasy.org writes: << There's an important difference between doing and watching. >> ?!?!? Aw, crap! Man, I'm in *big* trouble then! Just kiddin'. I thought that Jeme's post was incredibly thoughtful and right on the money. It's nice that someone took the time to really dissect what Eddie said and make intelligent and compassionate suggestions in response, rather than just offering a glib remark (like mine). - ------Michael K. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2000 21:16:22 -0500 From: fartachu Subject: hi my name is woj and i'm an addict (hi woj.) +w ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 20:46:49 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: RIP Mad Magazine's Don Martin Dead Sad news from the world of Thwak! Poit! Splop! Shtoik! and Fagroon! Don Martin, legendary Mad Magazine cartoonist Don Martin passed away this week at the age of 68. According to the Associated Press, Martin, who for over 3 decades, contributed his unique drawings and way with punctuating acts of violence with unique exclamations to the influential humor mag. In his later years, Martin worked at Cracked, which some viewed as a Monkees to Mad's Beatles, if you will. Many of Martin's classic strips are His anthologies are also available in paperback editions. ===== "America's greatest natural resource, still, to this day, is the moron" --Martin Mull __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 23:55:20 -0500 (EST) From: Bayard Subject: Re: hypoglycaemia > let me just wipe this tear from my eye. seriously. if anything's going to save this race, it won't be our watching each other on tv. =b ps. go skins ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 00:25:07 -0500 (EST) From: Bayard Subject: for all you weenies... looks like you can now store 10 hours of cd-quality audio on a disc... for real! (not mp3!) http://www.beyond.com/PKIN116054/prod.htm ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 11:04:48 -0500 (EST) From: Natalie Jacobs Subject: radio, radio My last prime-time show (before I go back into early-morning limbo) was a great success... got some nice calls: a guy pleased that I had played the Gang of Four, my friend Andy the proto-feg (wanting to report an animal mutilation)... oh, and some guy named... "woage," something like that? Wanted to hear some sort of girly band! Why do these people harrass me so?? (Thanks for calling, woj. That was way cool.) cheers, n. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 15:27:23 -0500 (EST) From: Bayard Subject: who is wu? On Fri, 7 Jan 2000, Stewart C. Russell wrote: > - find out your WuName: > > http://www.recordstore.com/cgi-bin/wuname/wuname.pl that's fun, wonder how it works. I took the liberty of looking up the fegs. looks pretty accurate: Jeme Brelin: Excitable Misunderstood Genius Susan Dodge: Inscrutable Drama Queen Vivien Lyon: Gratuitous F-REEK woj (real name): Embryonic Crusadah Stewart Russell: Budget Nudist Randi Speigel: Sheepish Lord of Chaos Mark Gloster: Bilious Bad Janitah The Great Quail: Spunky Misunderstood Genius (must be related to Jeme) Eb (real name): Bastard, BASTARD HarbourMastah Eddie Tews: Dubious Masturbatah-X maybe i should add this to the fegNAMIA page? =pre-raphaelite shaolin ps. "Allen Ruch": same results as Eb ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V9 #6 *****************************