From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V8 #471 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Tuesday, December 21 1999 Volume 08 : Number 471 Today's Subjects: ----------------- More evidence that some old guy named "Dennis" reads this list ["JH3" ] RIP: I hope his coffin shoots missiles... [The Great Quail ] Re: completely out of the blue [Glen Uber ] Re: digital soundcards, cdrs ["JH3" ] lonesome cowboy bill ["Certified Skank" ] Re: [Re: digital soundcards, cdrs] [Christopher Donnell ] James' Rafferty question [overbury@cn.ca] hey, stewart... ["Certified Skank" ] Re: lonesome cowboy bill [dmw ] I bought myself a liarbird [Natalie Jacobs ] The Pilgrim's Quest (the last part!) [Natalie Jacobs ] Re: fegmaniax-digest V8 #470 [James Dignan ] howdy, pilgrim [Bayard ] Reveling in my own fatuousness ["JH3" ] Re: Reveling in my own fatuousness [steve ] Re: Reveling in my own fatuousness [overbury@cn.ca] Re: I bought myself a liarbird [dmw ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 11:11:14 -0600 From: "JH3" Subject: More evidence that some old guy named "Dennis" reads this list Did anybody else notice this? I got the actual text from last Friday's Washington Post, page C3: - ----------------------- DUNG ART DEFACED New York, Dec. 16 - A man smuggled white oil paint into the Brooklyn Museum of Art today and squirted it onto a controversial painting of the Virgin Mary decorated with elephant dung, museum officials and police said. Chris Ofili's "The Holy Virgin Mary," which incensed various groups, including the Catholic League and Mayor Rudolph Giuliani, was cleaned and will be back on display Friday, the museum said. Dennis Heiner, 72, allegedly smuggled the paint into the museum in a small plastic hand lotion tube, museum spokeswoman Sally Williams said. "He squirted it on the painting and the smeared it with his hands," she said. Heiner was immediately surrounded by security guards and taken into police custody... - ----------------------- Eeeeee....gyyyypp...shunnnnnn... - -John H. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 11:23:49 -0600 From: "JH3" Subject: Re: XTCiacs? Bayardo writes: >what is the collective name for XTC faithful? >Like fegs, deadheads, spiderblasters, etc? I've heard "XTC'ers" and even "XTC-heads," and of course the term "Chalkies" is used on John Relph's wonderful mailing list, but other than that, I don't think there's a fanciful name. (I tried to push "cruel, heartless Natalie-flaming bastards" for a while, but for some reason it just didn't take... not quite pithy enough, I guess!) >> I'm watching 'A Wonderful Life' - >I did too. i love that film... Y'know, I've never seen that movie, except for snippets in promos and documentaries? Hard to believe, isn't it. - -John H. Hedges III ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 12:28:36 -0500 From: The Great Quail Subject: RIP: I hope his coffin shoots missiles... I have sad news: One of my childhood heroes has passed away, Desmond Llewellyn. Not that he was my hero, of course, but his character in the James Bond Movies certainly was, somewhere between Doctor Who and the Absent Minded Professor. Not only that, he was just one of the many people who also realized the unique loveliness of my favorite letter. Q died today. - --Very sad Quail ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 12:41:04 -0500 From: lj lindhurst Subject: completely out of the blue Now surely one of you guys knows the answer to this question... I'm looking for a cartoon classic, and I'm not exactly sure what the name of it is, or if it was a Looney Tunes, Merry Melodies, or what. The cartoon involves what appears to be a very early version of Porky the Pig. He's young and doesn't want to go to school, so he pretends to have measles (and maybe even paints some little dots on his face-?). He keeps shouting, "MEASLES! MEASLES!" over and over again in this high-pitched voice, and he even sings a little song that goes, "I've got the mea-sles, I've got the mea-sles!" Everyone is afraid of him and runs away. I have been dying to see this cartoon again, and it's been driving me nuts! Does anyone know what it is, and how I might get a copy of it? thanks thanks thanks... l * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * LJ Lindhurst White Rabbit Graphic Design http://www.w-rabbit.com NYC ljl@w-rabbit.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 09:55:51 -0800 From: Glen Uber Subject: Re: completely out of the blue on 20.12.99 09:41, lj lindhurst wrote: > I have been dying to see this cartoon again, and it's been driving me > nuts! Does anyone know what it is, and how I might get a copy of it? I'm surprised I don't remember that one. I thought I had seen all the Looney Toons and Merrie Melodies cartoons. You might be able to find the info you're looking for here: http://www.toonzone.net/looney/ Cheers! - -g- "If music makes people do things, how come we don't all love each other?" - --Frank Zappa, addressing Tipper Gore at the PMRC hearings, 1986 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Glen Uber uberg@sonic.net http://www.sonic.net/~uberg ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 12:03:41 -0600 From: "JH3" Subject: Re: digital soundcards, cdrs WARNING: YET MORE TECHNOWEENIEISM CONTENT Bayard "mr tech help" Catron writes: >As a followup to Brian's question, there is a very good list of digital >soundcards at: >http://www.digitalexperience.com/cards.html Brian's original question was about moving Minidisc recordings to a computer: >Does any one know the best or easiest way to burn a cdr from >minidisc on my computer? Is there some software I can down load >from some place? If you're buying a soundcard to do digital connections from a Minidisc player to a computer, be aware that the soundcard needs a "toslink" optical SP/DIF input jack. Most soundcards use coaxial SP/DIF input jacks (which look like ordinary RCA stereo jacks). You can buy converters though, and in some cases that might even be cheaper. It's something to be aware of, regardless. A good article on the subject of converters: http://www.smr-home-theatre.org/Reviews/Converters/index.html The cheapest one (AFAIK) is the Midiman CO2, for about $80; check out http://www.midiman.com. It would be a lot *easier* to buy an audio-component CD burner with a toslink input, specifically meant to be used for Minidisc-to-CD transfers, and then just rip the resulting CD's. (That method would handle the sample-rate conversion for you, I suspect, as might some of the more expensive converters.) That might even be cheaper, until the prices for digital-input sound-cards come down a bit more. Sorry, no punch-line for this one. John "Zzzzzzz" Hedges ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 10:52:38 PST From: "Certified Skank" Subject: lonesome cowboy bill <+ 6 unreleased tracks CD : ROBYN HITCHCOCK, CALEXICO, TUE-LOUP, GOOD EVENING MISTER WALDHEIM, PULL, DE NEUVE.> wonder just how many bands are named after lou reed songs? ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: 20 Dec 99 14:44:48 EST From: Christopher Donnell Subject: Re: [Re: digital soundcards, cdrs] www.minidisco.com has a Xitel Storm Platinum sound card that has TOS inputs for $78.95. I don't have any experience with these though.. just seen it on the site. "JH3" wrote: > WARNING: YET MORE TECHNOWEENIEISM CONTENT > > Bayard "mr tech help" Catron writes: > > >As a followup to Brian's question, there is a very good list of digital > >soundcards at: > >http://www.digitalexperience.com/cards.html > > Brian's original question was about moving Minidisc recordings to a > computer: > >Does any one know the best or easiest way to burn a cdr from > >minidisc on my computer? Is there some software I can down load > >from some place? > > If you're buying a soundcard to do digital connections from a > Minidisc player to a computer, be aware that the soundcard > needs a "toslink" optical SP/DIF input jack. Most soundcards > use coaxial SP/DIF input jacks (which look like ordinary RCA > stereo jacks). You can buy converters though, and in some > cases that might even be cheaper. It's something to be aware > of, regardless. > > A good article on the subject of converters: > http://www.smr-home-theatre.org/Reviews/Converters/index.html > > The cheapest one (AFAIK) is the Midiman CO2, for about $80; > check out http://www.midiman.com. > > It would be a lot *easier* to buy an audio-component CD > burner with a toslink input, specifically meant to be used for > Minidisc-to-CD transfers, and then just rip the resulting > CD's. (That method would handle the sample-rate conversion > for you, I suspect, as might some of the more expensive > converters.) That might even be cheaper, until the prices > for digital-input sound-cards come down a bit more. > > Sorry, no punch-line for this one. > > John "Zzzzzzz" Hedges > ____________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 15:20:15 -0500 From: "Thomas, Ferris" Subject: RE: digital soundcards, cdrs > WARNING: YET MORE TECHNOWEENIEISM CONTENT Yet again... I was a bit disappointed when I found that the soundBlaster Live (value/OEM) card that came with my Dell didn't have the digital I/O jacks that the full-blown SB Live has. After poking around the Minidisc Appreciation page and asking a few people I was pointed in the direction of Hoontech Industries (http://www.hoontech.com) and recently got a Digital I/O add-on card from a distributor in Jersey for about $35.00. While I haven't had the time to install it yet, it seems as though it will solve all my troubles. I've been having good luck doing MD/Analog/CD recordings, but wanted to take it a step further. For those in the same boat or who are interested, the add-on card is the SB DB-3(S/PDIF and Optical) found at Tracer Technologies, Inc. http://WWW.tracertek.com . The card includes AES/EBU ins and outs, Optical ins and outs, as well as S/PDIF coaxial ins and outs. The home unit I have has optical, s/pdif, and toslink ins and outs on it so I'm thinking I ought to be able to get one of them to work right, if not all. - -ferris. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 13:24:39 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Shaggs review (and picture!) http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/9947/sotc.shtml ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 16:43:00 -0500 From: overbury@cn.ca Subject: James' Rafferty question >PS - exactly what is it that Gerry was doing 'all over the place' in "Stuck >in the Middle with you"? I've never been able to decipher that lyric... "choking up", no? PS: Oh yeah, *that* Billy Connolly! Now I get it! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 14:17:11 PST From: "Certified Skank" Subject: hey, stewart... just discovered that "moreso" is not in the dictionary (The American Heritage Dictionary of The English Language, Third Edition). what gives? also, could you give the address to send tix stubs to? and the url to view them? here's the text of a letter to the editor for this week's eat the state!, which i (lamentably) did not write, but whose wording i *wholly* approve of: ETS!, I am jealous as fuck! I wish I was there with you folks out in the street. Good fucking job! Close that fucker down! In solidarity, KEN "Size-of-the-entire-universe man" THE KENSTER ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 17:28:22 -0500 (EST) From: dmw Subject: Re: lonesome cowboy bill On Mon, 20 Dec 1999, Certified Skank wrote: > wonder just how many bands are named after lou reed songs? something less than the total number of lou reed songs ("i'll be your mirror" would be a terrible band name), but an awful lot. i'm pretty sure there are over a dozen that've had national u.s. or international distribution. i tried making a list at one point, but i don't know if i still have it anywhere. had multiple folks come up after my solo sets t'other night and tell me i sounded like unca lou. really weird -- i don't know whether to feel honored or insulted. on the one hand, comparison to one of the greatest songwriters of the 20th century, ok, can deal. on the other hand, i try to write songs with actual notes in the vocal melody, and then try to hit them in the performance. ;) i guess i can blame my head cold. you didn't say "candy says," - -- d. n.p. v/a _when you stop believing in santa claus you start getting clothes for christmas_ - - oh no, you've just read mail from doug = dmw@radix.net - get yr pathos - - www.pathetic-caverns.com -- books, flicks, tunes, etc. = reviews - - www.fecklessbeast.com -- angst, guilt, fear, betrayal! = guitar pop ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 20:22:42 -0500 (EST) From: Natalie Jacobs Subject: I bought myself a liarbird >You're OK so far Joel, but if you really get to liking "My Weapon" or The >Big Express, then I'm afraid you're slipping into Hedges territory. No, no, you mean "Go2" - the album beloved by John Hedges and no-one else. Many, many people love "The Big Express," and are no more the fanatical for doing so. Why, are you calling such luminaries as woj and Viv fanatics?? Such blasphemy. n. p.s. I don't know of any particular name for XTC fans, although I can think of some names for certain denizens of the XTC mailing list, which I will not repeat here. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 20:54:11 -0500 (EST) From: Natalie Jacobs Subject: The Pilgrim's Quest (the last part!) When last we left our heroes, the Pilgrim and the gnome, they had just passed through the perils of the Hitchcock Gates, and now they must call for help through the maze that lies before the Shrine of woj, resting place of the fabled Aleph Tape... The Pilgrim frowned. "The Lyoness said we were supposed to call on the priestess of my persuasion. What's my persuasion?" "Well, what do you believe in the most?" the gnome asked sensibly. The Pilgrim responded promptly: "Capitalism blows!" "Ah-ha!" The gnome took out his little trumpet and began to play a familiar tune. A soft light appeared in front of them, becoming gradually more distinct, until a human form began to take shape within it: a tall woman, robed in red and wearing a red crown, holding a copy of "Das Kapital." A breeze blew through the tunnel, redolent of seaweed, as she materialized. The Pilgrim's jaw dropped, and he fell to his knees in awe. "The Communist Daughter!" he breathed. "Arise, comrade!" the Communist Daughter said with a gentle smile. "I have come to aid you in your quest. Come, Pilgrim, and the wise gnome; follow me through the maze, and have no fear, for I shall not lead you astray." And so they followed the Communist Daughter through the twisting tunnels, and she and the Pilgrim discoursed on Noam Chomsky and other subjects dear to the Pilgrim's heart, while the gnome, not knowing what the hell they were talking about, opted instead to take a nap. The walls of the maze were covered with the graffiti of those who had been there before them: "SHINE ON SOPHIA!" "CAPTAIN KEEGAN ROOLZ!!" "LONG LIVE THE GREAT QUAIL!" and an ominous warning, scrawled in a shaky hand, "BEWARE THE GUARDIAN OF THE ALEPH TAPE!!" "Who is this Guardian, anyway?" the Pilgrim asked. The lovely face of the Communist Daughter grew grave. "He is a creature most dangerous and terrible," she said. "You will need all your proletarian wiles to escape his clutches. Do not for a moment let down your guard, or your soul will be utterly destroyed!" The Pilgrim shuddered. At last, they arrived at a door of black onyx, in which the Pilgrim could see the frightened reflections of himself and the awakened gnome. "Take care, comrade," the Communist Daughter said. Smiling comfortingly, she faded from view, and the Pilgrim, steeling his heart, pushed the door open. The Shrine of woj, Lord of Fegs, was an enormous cave, with a vaulted ceiling a hundred feet high, and was, in fact, the hollowed-out interior of the mountain the Pilgrim had been trying so hard to reach. In the center of the cave, a great image of woj himself stood, wearing his famous T-shirt of Toast and listening to a Tori Amos album on his headphones. At woj's feet was an altar of silver filigree, upon which rested... the Aleph Tape. It shone with iridescent effulgence, and from it emanated the enchanting sounds of every Robyn show ever recorded. The Pilgrim, mesmerized, began to walk towards it. Suddenly, a small cheerful bearded man stepped out in front of him. "Hi, Pilgrim!" he said, waving. "How's it going?" The Pilgrim stopped in his tracks and stared, unable to believe his eyes. "Bayard??" "Yeah, it's me, Bayard, the Guardian of the Aleph Tape. Man, you look really tired. You want to sit down? I've got some tomatoes and chickpeas if you're hungry. Hey, is that a gnome? He's cute! I mean, as far as gnomes go. Oh, and he's got a little trumpet, too! That's so cool. Oh, I managed to tape that HBO special that Robyn was on, do you want the tape? It's OK, I've got it up on my website anyway, you can have it. Hey, you know, we'll be able to order 'Stars for Bram' soon! I'm totally looking forward to it. I can snag you a copy if you can't afford it, you can always pay me back. So what do you think about what James Dignan said yesterday? I thought it was pretty funny. Pilgrim...? Are you OK? You don't look so good!" The Pilgrim, enveloped in a cloud of Bayard's niceness, was beginning to feel dizzy. He staggered and nearly fell down. Bayard took his arm, looking very concerned, and the niceness grew suffocating; he could hardly breathe. The gnome, smaller and less resistant, had already fainted. Now he knew the true, insidious horror of the Guardian of the Aleph Tape. He knew that if he did not fight back soon, the niceness of Bayard would destroy him. He racked his bleary mind for solutions, and finally came up with an idea, though it hurt him even to think about it. But he had to try it. Summoning all his strength, he gasped, "Fuck that! Robyn sucks!" "What?" Bayard gasped. "Robyn sucks! He's an old has-been. Dan Bern could kick his ass! Jeff Mangum could, too!" "Yeah!" the gnome wheezed, coming to upon hearing the name of his master. "Even that dork from Of Montreal could kick Robyn's ass!" "You... you can't say that!" Bayard said in horror. "'Jewels for Sophia' blew! The production was wimpy and the songs are fucking idiotic! I mean, fuckin' 'Cheese Alarm'? Give me a fucking break!" The Pilgrim was trembling with the effort of his pretense, but he went on, "Man, who wants to hear Robyn singing a bunch of sappy love songs? He's never going to do another album like 'Eye.' He's burnt out!" Bayard was faltering. The fog of niceness which surrounded him was beginning to dissipate. "It's not true," he whispered. "Robyn is better than ever!" "He's a has-been! He's a never-was! Deal with it, Mr. Nice Guy!" the Pilgrim yelled. Bayard collapsed to the floor, sobbing. "Sorry, Bayard," the Pilgrim said, and, stepping over him, reached out to grasp the Aleph Tape. As his fingers closed around it, its brightness flared up and obscured his vision. And then... The hot desert sun beat down upon him. He was standing next to his car, his broken-down red Geo, where he had left it by the side of the road, so long ago. Following some hidden instinct, he got into the car and put the Aleph Tape into the tape deck. The car became suffused with an unearthly glow, and when he turned the key in the ignition, the engine ran as smoothly as if it had been repaired by an expert mechanic. "Yes!" screamed the Pilgrim. "I won! I have the Tape!" The gnome blew a triumphant blast on his trumpet, and then they were off. When he arrived home, he immediately went to his computer to brag to the Fegs of his conquest. But he found that word of his adventure had already somehow leaked back to the list. His mailbox was filled with 30,238 messages, each from a Feg demanding a copy of the Aleph Tape! Staring at the screen, the Pilgrim took a deep breath, and shrieked at the top of his lungs, "FUCK!!!!" THE END ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1999 16:01:49 +1300 From: James Dignan Subject: seasoons grotlings! Just a short note to wish you all the compliments of whichever season you celebrate. Any of you I still owe mail, don't worry, I'll get round to it soon! Oh, and this server will be down for a few days - mail will still be saved, but I won't be able to access it for a while, probably not until early in the New Year. So don't be surprised if I'm strangely silent for a while (not that some of you would notice...) Anyway, I hope that Christmas/Hanukkah/Solstice (summer or winter)/Phagwah/ whatever is great, and that you have loads of fun when the big numbers roll over. Remember, the best way to settle the argument as to when the new millennium really starts is to start partying on 31/12/99 and don't stop partying until 1/1/2001. That way, you avoid any Y2K bugs, too! James James Dignan___________________________________ You talk to me Deptmt of Psychology, Otago University As if from a distance ya zhivu v' 50 Norfolk Street And I reply. . . . . . . . . . Dunedin, New Zealand with impressions chosen from another time steam megaphone (03) 455-7807 (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1999 16:05:22 +1300 From: James Dignan Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V8 #470 >You're OK so far Joel, but if you really get to liking "My Weapon" or The >Big Express, then I'm afraid you're slipping into Hedges territory. how can anyone NOT like The Big Express??? James ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1999 01:53:45 -0500 (EST) From: Bayard Subject: howdy, pilgrim about TIME i showed up in that story! I was startin' to get insulted. ;-D cheers, gnat! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1999 00:55:09 -0600 From: "JH3" Subject: Reveling in my own fatuousness >>You're OK so far Joel, but if you really get to liking "My Weapon" >>or The Big Express, then I'm afraid you're slipping into Hedges >>territory. >No, no, you mean "Go2" - the album beloved by John Hedges and >no-one else... Yup, I'm the only one! The only one in the whole, wide world... I'm unique! It's *JH3 vs. Earth!* My whole life is like one big Charlton Heston movie. Or else I'm just like the guy in that NZ movie "The Quiet Earth," except that I still have all my hair. [Knocking on wood whilst typing] Charlton Heston still has pretty much all of his hair left, doesn't he? Or is that a toupee? I can never get close enough at the NRA board meetings to really tell. - -John "but does it make me a bald - oops, BAD - person?" Hedges ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1999 08:54:06 -0600 From: steve Subject: Re: Reveling in my own fatuousness JH3: >>>You're OK so far Joel, but if you really get to liking "My Weapon" >>>or The Big Express, then I'm afraid you're slipping into Hedges >>>territory. > >>No, no, you mean "Go2" - the album beloved by John Hedges and >>no-one else... > >Yup, I'm the only one! The only one in the whole, wide world... I'm >unique! It's *JH3 vs. Earth!* We wouldn't want to give Joel the idea that there are questionable XTC albums, because there aren't. Buy them all Joel - buy, buy, buy! White Music and Go2 are excellent - but might be a bit of a surprise if you're working backwards. - - Steve _______________ We're all Jesus, Buddha, and the Wizard of Oz! - Andy Partridge ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1999 10:45:56 -0500 From: overbury@cn.ca Subject: Re: Reveling in my own fatuousness On 21 Dec 99, at 8:54, steve wrote: > We wouldn't want to give Joel the idea that there are questionable XTC > albums, because there aren't. Buy them all Joel - buy, buy, buy! White > Music and Go2 are excellent - but might be a bit of a surprise if you're > working backwards. I've got them both. I can't say I really remember much about Go2, except for Mechanik Dancing which is OK. Go2 is on vinyl, and my turntable has been out of commission for many months. I picked up White Music within the last couple of years, and I don't think I'd recommend it offhand to anyone who got on the XTC bus recently -- not without a pre-purchase listen. It's obvious from White Music that they had a long way to go, and not so obvious that they'd get there. The words "gimmicky" and "affected" spring to mind. I find it interesting from a historical point of view, but if the band had done that one LP and disappeared, I wouldn't have mourned their loss. Does that mean I lose the XTC fan contest? Shucks. What if I like Oranges and Lemons more than both you guys? PS: Bayard -- I think it's "chalkhillians", if we're "fegs", but I don't think that term refers to anybody but the listmembers. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1999 12:35:18 -0500 (EST) From: dmw Subject: Re: I bought myself a liarbird On Mon, 20 Dec 1999, Natalie Jacobs wrote: > No, no, you mean "Go2" - the album beloved by John Hedges and no-one else. not so! i admit, i hated it when if first heard it, but it's one of my favorites. heck, i even like take away/lure of salvage. bring back barry andrews! (what is he doing now, anyway? it's what, 3 years since the last shriekback record?) - -- d. - - oh no, you've just read mail from doug = dmw@radix.net - get yr pathos - - www.pathetic-caverns.com -- books, flicks, tunes, etc. = reviews - - www.fecklessbeast.com -- angst, guilt, fear, betrayal! = guitar pop ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V8 #471 *******************************