From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V8 #469 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Sunday, December 19 1999 Volume 08 : Number 469 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Lucinda [Dominic ] RE: you got a sweet mouth onion baby [ultraconformist@ets.cncdsl.com] Re: SPIN's 90 revisited ["Minky Sponge" ] eb all over the world ["Certified Skank" ] Re: SPIN's 90 revisited [Sebastian Hagedorn ] we do the work, you do the pleasure [fartachu ] Re: SPIN's 90 revisited [Glen Uber ] Re: SPIN's 90 revisited ["Chris!" ] Re: SPIN's 90 revisited [MARKEEFE@aol.com] top...whatever [Katherine Rossner ] tech question [Joel Mullins ] Clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right [digja611@student.otago.ac.] Far below, the curlews call from strangely stunted trees [digja611@studen] digital soundcards, cdrs [Bayard ] Re: fegmaniax-digest V8 #468 [DDerosa5@aol.com] Glass Hotel Downtime [Bayard ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 07 Dec 1999 11:51:14 -0500 From: Dominic Subject: Lucinda Eb wrote: > 7. Lucinda Williams, Car Wheels on a Gravel Road Hey, Lucinda's cd is an excellent one....But, then again, I might be biased 'cos I'm a big fan of alt-country music. Anyone here likes Blue Rodeo ? Our best Canadian band ever !!! Take care ! Dominic Montreal ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 19:11:35 -0600 From: ultraconformist@ets.cncdsl.com Subject: RE: you got a sweet mouth onion baby >I call BS. > >Bayard is responsible for this. Nuh uh. Is Helen Percival. *ducking* Love on ya, Susan ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Dec 1999 01:04:42 GMT From: "Minky Sponge" Subject: Re: SPIN's 90 revisited Eb wrote: >4. The Fugees, The Score i still do not see the fuss about this album or lauryn hill. >6. The Orb, the orb's adventures beyond the ultraworld the best orb album, imho. i think it is one of the best electronic releases in the past years. >11. Cornershop, When I Was Born for the 7th Time >[didn't like the earlier Cornershop stuff, but who knows...] i agree with you about the early stuff. it seems the farther you go back in their discography, the worse they are. i really love this one, but i hate their album just previous to this one, "woman's gotta have it". >Moby i still stand with "everything is wrong" as his masterpiece. i like "play" also, but not to the same extent. - --dave "24 from spin, 28 from pitchfork" the davester ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 23:03:38 PST From: "Certified Skank" Subject: eb all over the world not quite. he introduced the entire band during the improv. chris wasn't onstage at the time, but he did refer to lindsay as "lindsay anderson". this is correct. chris did not play song one with the armada in austin. he started doing the oboe thing on Antwoman during that first week. carrboro, perhaps? and since he was already onstage, he then started staying on after that to help on the backing vocals for Sleeping With Your Devil Mask. the first time the armada played America, in detroit, was during the encore, and chris did not appear. don't know what happened in cincinnati, alas. but by the time they'd got to chicago, the setlist had been arranged so that Antwoman, America, and Sleeping With Your Devil Mask were played in succession. after the last of which, robyn would say something like, "thank you chris anderson for that three-song cameo!" and, yes, chris was a very nice fellow, as were all the lounge boys. they were always out chatting it up with the fans directly after the gig. KEN "I want to get off of this couch immediately, and into a spiritualized atmosphere as soon as possible" THE KENSTER ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Dec 1999 12:06:41 +0100 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: SPIN's 90 revisited > The top 12 albums on SPIN's 90 which I really want to hear, and haven't: > > Anyone wanna weigh in on these? > > 8. Buena Vista Social Club, Buena Vista Social Club > [why has this album sold so massively??] I have no idea. I find it boring. YMMV. > 11. Cornershop, When I Was Born for the 7th Time > [didn't like the earlier Cornershop stuff, but who knows...] I don't know the earlier stuff, but that CD is one of my favorites from that year. The others I don't know. Cheers, Sebastian - -- Sebastian Hagedorn Ehrenfeldgürtel 156, 50823 Köln, Germany http://www.spinfo.uni-koeln.de/~hgd/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Dec 1999 09:03:08 -0600 From: tanter Subject: RIP Grover Washington. Marcy L. Tanter Assistant Professor of English Tarleton State University Stephenville, TX 76401 254-968-9892 (9039 to leave a message) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Dec 1999 11:29:57 -0500 From: fartachu Subject: we do the work, you do the pleasure proof that some tori amos fans have a sense of humor: +w ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Dec 1999 09:49:53 -0800 From: Glen Uber Subject: Re: SPIN's 90 revisited on 17.12.99 14:55, Eb wrote: > 7. Lucinda Williams, Car Wheels on a Gravel Road Great album! Though I am not prone to hyperbole, it might be the best album ever released by a female. After hearing this I wondered why all of those other "cunt-rockers" are so much more popular than Ms. Williams. Natalie Merchant once dreamed of making an album this good. Super songs, super musicians (Steve Earle, Emmylou Harris, Greg Leisz, et al.) It's super, thanks for asking! > 9. Ice Cube, Amerikkka's Most Wanted God, it's been awhile since I've heard this. Absolutely awesome! Some of the socio-political references are a bit dated by now, I'm sure, but the sentiment and the inspiration behind those lyrics certainly are not. The only "Gangsta Rap" (I hate that term, but you know what I mean) album I ever played regularly. I can't even recall why or when I got rid of it. > 12. Beastie Boys, Check Your Head One of my former housemates used to play the shit out of this. It's some funky shit, brotha! I would actually own if not for the fact that my roomie overplayed it and ruined it for me. I would say it's the Beasties' second best (after _Paul's Boutique_, of course) > Anyone wanna weigh in on these? Q.E.D. Cheers! - -g- "If music makes people do things, how come we don't all love each other?" - --Frank Zappa, addressing Tipper Gore at the PMRC hearings, 1986 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Glen Uber uberg@sonic.net http://www.sonic.net/~uberg ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Dec 1999 10:01:57 -0800 From: "Chris!" Subject: Re: SPIN's 90 revisited Sebastian Hagedorn wrote: > > > The top 12 albums on SPIN's 90 which I really want to hear, and haven't: > > > > Anyone wanna weigh in on these? > > > > 8. Buena Vista Social Club, Buena Vista Social Club > > [why has this album sold so massively??] > Because people have not hear the brilliant Estrellas de Areito's "Los Heroes." It far exceed the Buena Club stuff making the rounds, although it is technically a different style of Cubanismo... .chris ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Dec 1999 14:43:23 EST From: MARKEEFE@aol.com Subject: Re: SPIN's 90 revisited In a message dated 12/17/99 9:59:35 PM Pacific Standard Time, aaron@aaronlowe.com writes: << >ps - it's been a long time since I looked at that Spin Top 90 list, so I have >no idea how many I own . . . 10-20? . . . I just tried to find the list at >www.spin.com, but didn't see an obvious link to it. Oh well. http://www.spin.com/magazine/features/1999/08/13/1/ >> Thanks to Aaron for passing along the url :-) Well, it looks like we have 27.5 out of those 90 at home [the ".5" comes from having Dr. Octagon's "Instrumentalyst" ('vocals surgically removed'), rather than "Dr. Octagonacologist" -- so, ya know, it's pretty much the same album (only better, IMO)]. Anyway, if anyone's counting . . . - ------Michael K. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Dec 1999 15:18:46 -0500 From: Katherine Rossner Subject: top...whatever I didn't buy enough new (1999) discs this year to have a top ten; the three I thought were outstanding were: Dave Carter and Tracy Grammer, WHEN I GO John Wesley Harding, TRAD ARR JONES Garnet Rogers, SPARROW'S WING More than ten for the decade, but not a round number...just my favorites, with no weeding and in almost no particular order: Vying for first place, depending on my mood: Jez Lowe and the Bad Pennies, THE PARISH NOTICES Dave Carter and Tracy Grammer, WHEN I GO Greg Greenway, SINGING FOR THE LANDLORD And a bunch of others I couldn't do without: Erin Corday, PAINTED DOOR Greg Greenway, A ROAD WORTH WALKING DOWN John Wesley Harding, JOHN WESLEY HARDING'S NEW DEAL Robyn Hitchcock, EYE and MOSS ELIXIR Jez Lowe, BACK SHIFT Jez Lowe and the Bad Pennies, TENTERHOOKS and BEDE WEEPS Eileen McGann, TURN IT AROUND Lynn Miles, SLIGHTLY HAUNTED Ayub Ogada, EN MANA KUOYO Jean-Luc Ponty (and a bunch of uncredited African musicians), TCHOKOLA Ellis Paul, CARNIVAL OF VOICES and STORIES and SAY SOMETHING Garnet Rogers, SUMMER LIGHTNING Tarika, SON EGAL Susan Werner, TIME BETWEEN TRAINS - -- Ye knowe ek, that in forme of speche is chaunge Withinne a thousand yere, and wordes tho That hadden pris, now wonder nyce and straunge Us thinketh hem, and yit they spake hem so. - Chaucer, "Troilus and Criseyde" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Dec 1999 15:28:31 -0800 From: Joel Mullins Subject: tech question Hello all. My mommy and daddy bought me a Hewlett-Packard CD-RW drive for graduation, and I just finished installing it. Now, I've got questions. I downloaded all the "Stand Back, Dennis" mp3s a while back. I wanted to put those on a CD. How do I do this? The program was asking for wave files, so I'm starting to wonder if I need to somehow convert the mp3s to wav files in order to write a CD, but I don't have a clue how to do this -- or if it's even possible. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. Joel ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1999 10:42:28 +0100 From: digja611@student.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) Subject: Clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right ><< TRIVIA: Jerry Rafferty had a hit single in the mid seventies- > "Baker Street". What early seventies band did he sing for, & > what was the title of their hit song? >> >wasn't he in Stealer's Wheel, with that pseudo-Dylan song, "Stuck in the >middle with you"? Sorry if this question was already answered before I got >the digest... Gerry Rafferty was in Stealers Wheel, who had hits with "Stuck in the Middle with You", "Star","Right or Wrong", and "Everyone's agreed that everything will turn out fine". He was also in the Humblebums with, of all people, Billy Connolly, before the latter took to stand-up comedy. No hits for them, but some delightful fey folkishness such as "Her father didn'tlike me anyway" later not a hit for Shane McGowan either. Jerry Rafferty, however, was in Tent-pole Sputnik and the Trousermen, who had a major underground smash with "I'm leaking, put my plug in", which gained notoriety when it was banned by the BBC for using the word "Nestle's", thus contravening the "no chocolate please, we're the BBC" rule. He later retired from the music business to take up a career in calculating river heights for the meteorological service before returning with his one big hit "Bakers' treat" (obviously misheard by the original questioner), the gripping tale of a picnic organised by alocal bread-making consortium which ended in the ritualistic slaying of three flour sifters. This too was banned, as it bore a striking resemblance to a real event occurring at the Social Democrat party conference in Bognor Regis, held two months earlier. Jerry, disheartened, again quit the business.He is now running a boarding kennels in Skegness. James James Dignan___________________________________ You talk to me Deptmt of Psychology, Otago University As if from a distance ya zhivu v' 50 Norfolk Street And I reply. . . . . . . . . . Dunedin, New Zealand with impressions chosen from another time steam megaphone (03) 455-7807 (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1999 10:49:57 +0100 From: digja611@student.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) Subject: Far below, the curlews call from strangely stunted trees >Peter Scott's Wildfowl Trust is actually in Slimbridge, Gloucestershire. >The usually reliable James Dignan's memories of the old country are >beginning to fade ... sigh.Yup.Right you are. And Stewart, too, who dragged me up on this one. >Maybe I missed it in the list, but who the heck was the keyboardist that >played with Keegan? erm...was this while he was with Newcastle United?Or was that a different Keegan? James Toucan, erm, Dignan (who recently wrote an instrumental called Shoebill) PS - exactly what is it that Gerry was doing 'all over the place' in "Stuck in the Middle with you"? I've never been able to decipher that lyric... James Dignan___________________________________ You talk to me Deptmt of Psychology, Otago University As if from a distance ya zhivu v' 50 Norfolk Street And I reply. . . . . . . . . . Dunedin, New Zealand with impressions chosen from another time steam megaphone (03) 455-7807 (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Dec 1999 17:33:05 -0500 (EST) From: Bayard Subject: digital soundcards, cdrs As a followup to Brian's question, there is a very good list of digital soundcards at: http://www.digitalexperience.com/cards.html Converting your live concert collection to CDR is good b/c every copy sounds as good as the first (if the data is carefully extracted and copied each time.) Also, with a CD burner you can duplicate a show at up to 8 times real time, so an 80 minute CD is created in about 10 minutes. Plextor and Yamaha make the best CDR writers, btw. Thanks woj for the suggestion of the digital card list pointer. =mr tech help ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Dec 1999 18:54:25 EST From: DDerosa5@aol.com Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V8 #468 In a message dated 12/17/99 6:17:54 PM Central Standard Time, owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org writes: << 2. Tortoise, Millions Now Living Will Never Die >> this was a turntabel fave of mine a few years back. maybe I'll play it at my party tonight... dave ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1999 01:56:31 -0500 (EST) From: Bayard Subject: Glass Hotel Downtime NOTE- The Glass Hotel will be offline until next month, when it will return with more features. In the works: "The Gallery", a virtual version of the exhibition we never got, of RH's paintings and drawings; and "Radio Hitchcock", streaming and downloadable interviews and live appearances. ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V8 #469 *******************************