From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V8 #458 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Wednesday, December 8 1999 Volume 08 : Number 458 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: The Hairy Arm for Paul McCartney [Eb ] Re: Yay! [steve ] "There is no owl." [Natalie Jacobs ] Re: the fellow who invented himself [Jeff Dwarf ] Dern it [shmac@ix.netcom.com (Scott Hunter McCleary)] Re: Nice Music [leahyc@tsainc.com] Re: fegmaniax-digest V8 #455 [James Dignan ] South Bay River [Terrence M Marks ] There is no Owl?! [Katherine Rossner ] Re: Nice Music [David Librik ] Re: Nice Music [steve ] SINGING HAMSTERS COULD TOPPLE SIR CLIFF! ["Crazy Unca' Nick" ] Jane Siberry [Dominic ] BBC News | ENTERTAINMENT | Singing hamsters threaten Sir Cliff ["Stewart ] Re: When I see the tray, it's tea-time [Michael R Godwin ] Re: The Hairy Arm of Paul McCartney [The Great Quail ] Re: Jane Siberry [Eb ] my own personal top 10 [Bayard ] unca lou [dmw ] Re: my own personal top 10 [Eb ] Re: unca lou [Eb ] Re: unca lou [Tom Clark ] Re: my own personal top 10 [Eric Loehr ] Re: unca lou [dmw ] Re: Jane Siberry [John Barrington Jones ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1999 16:43:39 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: The Hairy Arm for Paul McCartney >Eb, this woman kicks ass all over D#!!! :-) High praise, indeed. Actually, D# complained about her husband's abuse too. Hmm. It must be very hard, living with someone like this. I wonder if any other parallels will crop up, as Victoria's posts continue. She doesn't seem nearly as *angry* as D# was, though...there's a clear difference. General announcement: I got something interesting in the mail today: a recent issue of "Cool & Strange," a low-budget magazine devoted to exotica and the like. The publisher sent me a free copy, because there's an article about...Claudine Longet! The article's not all that illuminating (not especially insightful, and no more than two little facts which I didn't already know), but I can tell that the guy used my site as a reference. Heh. In particular, it's obvious that he sifted through my links page. He doesn't post my URL (que sera), but there was *this* delightful surprise in the next-to-last paragraph: "...She has inspired not only her own webpage [ha!], but also satires by Jagger, Dylan and SNL as well as tributes from young devotees including Tori Amos, Geraldine Fibbers and Kim Fowley proteges the Rubbermaids." But, wait! I can even make this bulletin Robyn-related. The same issue has a Q&A with Ed "Moose" Savage (not a name I know), written by famed webmaster David Greenberger. Aha! Eb ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1999 20:20:51 -0600 From: steve Subject: Re: Yay! Natalie Jacobs: >Speaking of XTC, while I was getting my 'Lab ticket, I stopped at a >listening station and skimmed through "Homespun." Man... is this a >totally unnecessary, redundant release or what?? The Partridge demos are >virtually *identical* to the finished versions. The Moulding demos are >rougher, but they're weak songs anyway and there's only two of them. The >only really interesting bits are the very rough acoustic takes at the >beginning of "I'd Like That" and "Harvest Festival" - amounting to about >two minutes of material that sounds different from the finished product. >I'm SO glad I didn't buy this! (And no, I won't buy it because "XTC need >the money." I have very little sympathy for their financial woes.) Interesting (I think) music biz stuff, XTC is in the black after selling 150,000 copies of AV 1 worldwide. This is despite spending 108,000 Pounds Sterling to make the album. However, they stand to actually make more money from Homespun, even though TVT limited it to 20,000 copies in the U.S. I did buy Homespun, cause I'm a greedy bastard and I want a new XTC album every fuckin year! Andy has two children, Harry and Holly (as in "Holly Up On Poppy"). More than you needed to know (but still on a planet where Aimee Mann and Jon Brion can't get their albums released) - Steve _______________ We're all Jesus, Buddha, and the Wizard of Oz! - Andy Partridge ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1999 21:53:57 -0500 (EST) From: Natalie Jacobs Subject: "There is no owl." > I'll get back to you on this. Gorlois (aka Gerlois), husband of Igraine > of Orkney (aka Ygerna of ditto) is sometimes referred to as the Duke of > Cornwall, but this seems extremely unlikely because: [snippage] I was actually referring to the mythical King Arthur, rather than the historical personage (if there was one). Most of the Arthur legends seem to agree about the Cornwall business. Nobody really knows much about the historical figure at all, let alone where he was born. > Yes. Could you just run me through the contents of Merlin's house when > the Wart first meets him? Uh... let's see... I remember there was a stuffed crocodile hanging from the ceiling (that Archidemes the owl perched on top of), and some baby badgers that said yik-yik-yik (one of whom Wart visited later), and a stuffed pike, I think, and an ant nest, and a set of the Encyclopedia Brittannica, and there was the mustard pot that walked around. How'm I doing so far? :) n. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1999 19:11:49 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: the fellow who invented himself someone sed: >>As for an invention besides "himself", i was speaking of the >>pen he created. I consider this an invention, at least some >>kind of engineering feat. woj sed: >so there you go... but they've had floating pens for quite a while now. Robyn DESIGNED the tomato pen, but he didn't invent the technology behind it.... that said, i have no trouble imagine robyn as a part-time rube goldberg wannabe puttering around his garage or shed or whatever he has when he isn't puttering around the house writing songs or dusting or writing the novel or painting whatever. ===== "America's greatest natural resource, still, to this day, is the moron" --Martin Mull __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. Yahoo! Shopping: http://shopping.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1999 22:23:20 -0500 From: shmac@ix.netcom.com (Scott Hunter McCleary) Subject: Dern it Eb said: Every time I see John McCain speak, I think of two words: "Bruce Dern." I just had to get that off my chest. Maybe it's those two little robots that keep following him around the greenhouse. ;-) ========= SH McCleary Prodigal Dog Communications Alexandria, VA 22312 shmac@prodigaldog.com www.prodigaldog.com www.1480kHz.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1999 10:48:42 -0600 From: leahyc@tsainc.com Subject: Re: Nice Music carrie wrote: Saw a show in NY (the Bottom Line - what a great venue!) this weekend: Jane Siberry i have two of her cd's. i really enjoy "when i was a boy" and it's on my list of favorite cd's to paint to. in fact, i was so impressed, i went out and purchased "bound by the beauty" which, much to my dismay, ended up being a bit of a disappointment. i wouldn't mind seeing her in concert though. the show you've described sounds like a pretty good time. chad ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1999 16:32:24 +1300 From: James Dignan Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V8 #455 >yikes! sorry! thought i'd proofread that. but apparently not very well. >here's a transcription, sans typos. incidentally, i know that "my fingers >do the siege" line don't make much sense. but i listened to it several >times over, and it's the only thing i can come up with. perhaps hal could >make a better guess? never heard the song in question, but could it possibly be 'my fingers do beseech", i.e., beg or plead? BTW, if anyone has sent me any personal messages in the last 48 hours, could they please resend them? Server crashed, didn't it? >3. I read something on the net about Andy Partridge. It was a quote >from him about people's perceptions of the English (that they all >collect something, have bad teeth, and are gay). He said he fit two out >of three. To which two is he referring? I bet he collects guitars or >something. I don't think I've ever seen him with an open mouth, so >maybe he's always trying to hide his bad teeth. And his sexuality is >something I wouldn't know anything about, not having ever met the guy. >All three are damn good possibilities. Actually, I'd say that all three >are damn good possibilities no matter what country a person comes from. ISTR he collects toy soldiers. And, if XTC's lyrics are anything to go by, old DC comics. And he's complained about his teeth in the past. As to being gay... again, his lyrics seem to suggest otherwise (they don't rule out bi, mind you...) Oh, and woj is a man. Don't let that flowery ball-gown fool you. James PS - Charles Mansion? Stonehedge?? The senator's wife is a horse??? James Dignan___________________________________ You talk to me Deptmt of Psychology, Otago University As if from a distance ya zhivu v' 50 Norfolk Street And I reply. . . . . . . . . . Dunedin, New Zealand with impressions chosen from another time steam megaphone (03) 455-7807 (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1999 22:48:00 -0500 (EST) From: Terrence M Marks Subject: South Bay River Realization of the Day: The Beach Boys' "South Bay Surfer" is just an uptempo version of "Swannee River". Brian Wilson ripped off Stephen Foster.... Terrence Marks Unlike Minerva (a comic strip) http://www.unlikeminerva.com normal@grove.ufl.edu ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Dec 1999 23:01:16 -0500 From: Katherine Rossner Subject: There is no Owl?! At 09:53 PM 12/7/99 -0500, Natalie Jacobs wrote: >Uh... let's see... I remember there was a stuffed crocodile hanging from >the ceiling (that Archidemes the owl perched on top of), and some baby >badgers that said yik-yik-yik (one of whom Wart visited later), and a >stuffed pike, I think, and an ant nest, and a set of the Encyclopedia >Brittannica, and there was the mustard pot that walked around. How'm I >doing so far? :) I thought there was only one volume of the Britannica, and the mustard pot shows up later (during the meal?). And two ant colonies, with some sort of a bridge between. And maybe some sort of a pre-war plane hanging from the ceiling, or am I getting muddled with another book? Ookpik (not Archimedes) - -- Ye knowe ek, that in forme of speche is chaunge Withinne a thousand yere, and wordes tho That hadden pris, now wonder nyce and straunge Us thinketh hem, and yit they spake hem so. - Chaucer, "Troilus and Criseyde" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1999 00:21:07 -0600 From: David Librik Subject: Re: Nice Music Ethyl Ketone writes: >Saw a show in NY (the Bottom Line - what a great venue!) this weekend: >Jane Siberry How odd. Just this weekend I pulled out Jane Siberry's first (self-titled) album, and some of the songs reduced me to tears with their beauty. This is atypical for me, since I don't get those sorts of emotional reactions to music, and mostly like Rock. (insert air guitar motions here). I score low on the wojscale of wimminz muzik (Exile In Guyville doesn't count), but the harmonies & melodies & joy I heard just blew me away. I gather Siberry changes musical styles as often as hairstyles, and she seems more interested in pushing the boundaries of aural complexity than in turning out pop songs. As a result I lost interest in her stuff after she moved into new territory. But lyrically she has this keen psychological insight, specifically of the sort of obsessive and scientifically-oriented brain that definitely echoes Robyn's less psychedelic material. I liked _No Borders Here_, her second album, quite a lot back in college in the 80s, but when I listen to it now it seems a bit too tinkely-boop dated. The content is as refreshingly clever as ever, though, and "clever" counts a lot for me. I haven't bought anything of hers since 1985 or so; none of her later material held my interest. I guess I'd recommend hunting down _Jane Siberry_ and listening to "Above The Treeline," "The Mystery at Ogwen's Farm," and "The Sky Is So Blue," for starters -- but keep in mind that she almost certainly doesn't do any of this material nowadays, so it won't be what you heard. - - David Librik ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1999 00:28:33 -0600 From: steve Subject: Re: Nice Music Chad: >carrie wrote: >Saw a show in NY (the Bottom Line - what a great venue!) this weekend: >Jane Siberry > > i have two of her cd's. i really enjoy "when i was a boy" > and it's on my list of favorite cd's to paint to. in fact, i was > so impressed, i went out and purchased "bound by the beauty" > which, much to my dismay, ended up being a bit of a > disappointment. > > i wouldn't mind seeing her in concert though. the show you've > described sounds like a pretty good time. Jane rules, but she resides in a zone where Eb chooses to tread lightly. I suggest "The Walking," which (like the rest of her albums) can be purchased from her website at >www.sheeba.ca<. - - Steve _______________ We're all Jesus, Buddha, and the Wizard of Oz! - Andy Partridge ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Dec 1999 00:17:00 -0800 From: "Crazy Unca' Nick" Subject: SINGING HAMSTERS COULD TOPPLE SIR CLIFF! I just thought y'all should know... ~N SINGING HAMSTERS COULD TOPPLE SIR CLIFF Excite.co.uk, Tuesday 7 December 1999 Top News Veteran entertainer Sir Cliff Richard could be toppled from his number one slot this Christmas by a bunch of singing hamsters. A recording using sampling from one of the most popular websites - hamsterdance.com - is set to be released on Monday amid predictions that it could make the number one slot. The site features hamsters dancing to a squeaky, yodelled tune and was sampled to make the record, Cognoscenti Versus Intelligentsia, by The Cuban Boys group. A demo tape of the record - described in one magazine as sounding like "Pinky and Perky set to beats" - has already been played by DJ John Peel. He is reported to have said the response to the record was "the biggest reaction since I first played God Save The Queen by the Sex Pistols". The band, made up of brother and sister Jenny McClaren and Ricardo Autobahn from Preston, and Skreen and Blu, from Eastbourne, were signed up to EMI in May. The members met through the internet and only formed in July last year. Graham Sharpe, spokesman for bookmaker William Hill, said The Cuban Boys had odds of 10 to 1 to get to the Christmas number one slot - fourth favourite - with Westlife tipped as the favourite to reach number one with odds of 4-7. Commenting on the odds, he said: "Nothing in this world is certain. People said Mr Blobby would not be the Christmas number one and we all know what happened then." - -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Nature will tell you a direct lie if she can" - Charles Darwin Find more lies here... http://www.njaz.com/fegfotos ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Dec 1999 09:17:55 +0000 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: Top 8 things in this email Joel Mullins wrote: > > went back the next day to spend that 6 bucks on The Big Express. Is yours the awful one with bonus tracks wedged in the middle? Mine's unlistenable. > 6. Has anyone seen the new Bond film? No. We were going to, but there was a reprint of "Kes" on a the local arthouse, and we thought, "If Halliwell gave it four stars...". Go see if you can. Gritty Northern Realism plus Falconry; what more can you ask? Dunno why you'd bother seeing that crummy product-placement-Bond-nonsense when there's Being John Malkovich around. Welcome to floor 7-1/2! Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Dec 1999 09:24:22 +0000 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: Mandelbrot normal@grove.ufl.edu wrote: > > kinda the Gerry Adams effect in reverse. Can I just point out that "the Jerry Adams Effect" [where he couldn't speak on BBC, and his voice was replaced by an actor's] was rescinded quite some time ago? It did give rise to an amusing comedy sketch where the law was altered that Jerry Adams *could* speak, but only after breathing helium... Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Dec 1999 09:05:24 -0500 From: Dominic Subject: Jane Siberry Hey everyone, I've been listening to Jane Siberry for more than 15 years. She's one of our most respected musicians over here in Canada. Personnaly, her career high came with the release of "The Walking"....one of the most touching and haunting albums I've ever heard. "The Speckless Sky" is also pretty amazing. My least favorite cd would be "Bound By The Beauty", a more commercial album that, ironically, didn't sell very well. And for those who don't know, the Indigo Girls have once said that they were Jane's biggest fans. Take care ! Dominic Montreal ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Dec 1999 12:08:00 +0000 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: BBC News | ENTERTAINMENT | Singing hamsters threaten Sir Cliff Please, please, please; this has got to happen: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/entertainment/newsid_555000/555087.stm else we'll end up with a superannuated git doing the [Ll]ord's [Pp]rayer set to the tune of "Auld Lang Syne" as the holiday top seller. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1999 13:17:33 +0000 (GMT) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: When I see the tray, it's tea-time Eddie, I just found this among some old stuff - really funny. Did anyone ever fill in the blanks? On Sat, 29 Aug 1998, Capitalism Blows wrote: > here are some lyrics to Deck Of Cards. this one was *very* difficult to > transcribe for various reasons, not least of which robyn is doing all he > can just to keep from busting out laughing throughout the whole thing. > 'During the North African Campaign, a bunch of Selzrey [?] boys came > off of a long hike. They arrived at a little town called Casino. The > next day being Sunday, some of the boys went down to church. The > Sergeant found the boys in church. After the service was over, the > lesson was taken up. Most of the boys read Proverbs [? 3 syllables]. > But one soldier had only a deck of cards. He [record skips]...called > before the Prize [?] Marshal. [record skips]...said the Prize Marshal. > "I'm playin' cards in church, sir!" said the soldier. > "And what have you to say for yourself, sir?" said the Prize > Marshal. > "Much, sir," said the soldier. "You see, I have to satisfy you > with the purity of my intentions. You see, when i see the ACE, it > reminds me that there is, but one god. When I see the DEUCE, it reminds > me that the bible is divided into two parts: the front, and the back. > When I see the TREY, it reminds me that, it's tea time. When I see the > FOUR, it reminds me of, the Fab Four (that was John, Paul, George, and > Ringo.) When I see the FIVE, it reminds me of the five wise [? 2 > syllables] who took their wives to the show. When I see the SIX, I > think of: unit four plus two. When I see the SEVEN, I think it reminds > me there aren't EIGHT days in the week anymore -- not since the beatles > broke up. When I see the NINE [drowned out by audience laughter. all > three of them.] When I see the JACK, it makes me think I've already > played [? 4 syllables]. When I see the QUEEN, it makes me think of the > [? 3 syllables]. When I see the KING, it reminds me of [? 11 syllables] > where you can buy bicycle clips. [? 5 syllables] and that's the number > of days in a year. There are four [? 1 syllable] suits in a deck: the > number of spots in a month. [? 4 syllables] in a suit of clothes. This > is where I turn to Butch. So you see friends: my deck of cards reminds > me of a Proverb, an almanac, a bible, and a washing machine." > And friends, this story of...is true. I know. I was...that > bicycle clip. Thank You'. - - Mike Godwin PS And did I mention that there is another funny(?) version of Deck of Cards by (Sir) David Frost? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Dec 1999 08:17:08 -0600 From: tanter Subject: RE: Singing hamsters threaten Sir Cliff You know, I love the British. I think they're a wonderful people but this really has me worried. There must be something in their water or something. This is frightening...!!j 10 points to the person who can identify the music.... Marcy L. Tanter Assistant Professor of English Tarleton State University Stephenville, TX 76401 254-968-9892 (9039 to leave a message) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1999 11:39:32 -0500 From: The Great Quail Subject: Re: The Hairy Arm of Paul McCartney >DRUID ROCK PERSON I predict Woj's next screen name! - --Quail ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The Great Quail, Keeper of the Libyrinth: http://www.libyrinth.com I have always imagined that Paradise will be a kind of library. --J.L. Borges ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Dec 1999 11:51:27 -0800 From: Joel Mullins Subject: Re: Top 8 things in this email Stewart C. Russell wrote: > > Joel Mullins wrote: > > > > went back the next day to spend that 6 bucks on The Big Express. > > Is yours the awful one with bonus tracks wedged in the middle? Mine's > unlistenable. Yes, it is. But since I wasn't familiar with the original album, the odd placement of these bonus tracks does not bother me, though I can see how it might bother you. Personally, I think the 3 bonus tracks are outstanding, especially "Washaway." Joel ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1999 12:10:59 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: Jane Siberry Dominic: >And for those >who don't know, the Indigo Girls have once said that they were Jane's >biggest fans. And that's supposed to *entice* us? Oof. ;) Two cents: I like Jane Siberry and have close to all her albums (I've fallen a bit behind lately, now that she's "indie" and weakly stocked), but I will say that "When I Was a Boy" is her only album which *really* grabs me. All her releases have a certain precious, cloying quality, which makes me grit my teeth and dampens my appreciation for her other virtues. (I've probably said this before, but I do have a certain sentimental attachment to No Borders Here, because it was the first album I ever got free as a "perk." ;)) Did anyone hear Howard Stern's phone call with David Letterman this morning? Woooow. Could Dave BE more bitter about being in second place to Leno? His nasty comments about Leno were SO tactless and unprofessional that I really gotta wonder if he's giving serious consideration to abandoning his show. I despise Leno and all, but jeez, Letterman really sounded like a loser today. Eb 10) The Velvet Underground/Live MCMXCIII ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1999 15:34:01 -0500 (EST) From: Bayard Subject: my own personal top 10 Top ten most memorable feg posts of the 1990s: 10. robyn's forwarded post to the list in '93 9. "harrison of ford" (susan even) 8. "friends of feg" (d.lang) 7. "straight outta enola" (tews) 6. "fegmaniax has all been an experiment in human culture" ("Rob wojchik") 5. "how being a programmer is like being in the music business" (JH3) 4. "taco bell pigeon pecking at a webTV console" (lj lindhurst) 3. "it's hard to be a saint in the city" (ben nicastro) (send-up of Eb) 2. "the misadventures of seaman barclay" (john fetter) (i think) and the one that started it all: 1. the diaries of debbie "chairman mao" flosshilde (the great quail) Tons of great stuff missing from here, of course, for example, all the surreal stuff Eb's sed over the years. =b ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1999 15:42:20 -0500 (EST) From: dmw Subject: unca lou On Wed, 8 Dec 1999, Eb wrote: > 10) The Velvet Underground/Live MCMXCIII no kiddin! you already said you weren't interested in discussing rationale for the selections, didn't you Eb? i thought _live mcmxciii_ had decent song selection, was well recorded, and the performances were less tired than i would've expected...but i didn't think it a candle holder to _1969_ or _max's kansas city_, and far and away the most startling thing i've seen as your list slides buy. if you care to clue me into why you thought it so extraordinary, i'll give it another go and see if i was just missing something. (for what it's worth i think "new adventures" is easily the best r.e.m. record of the decade; unfortunately, i don't think that merits "best-of" status anymore.) - -- d. - - oh no, you've just read mail from doug = dmw@radix.net - get yr pathos - - www.pathetic-caverns.com -- books, flicks, tunes, etc. = reviews - - www.fecklessbeast.com -- angst, guilt, fear, betrayal! = guitar pop ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1999 12:50:51 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: my own personal top 10 >10. robyn's forwarded post to the list in '93 I wouldn't mind seeing this, if someone has it saved.... honorable-mention Eb ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1999 13:04:36 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: unca lou dmw: >> 10) The Velvet Underground/Live MCMXCIII > >no kiddin! you already said you weren't interested in discussing >rationale for the selections, didn't you Eb? i thought _live mcmxciii_ >had decent song selection, was well recorded, and the performances were >less tired than i would've expected...but i didn't think it a candle >holder to _1969_ or _max's kansas city_, and far and away the most >startling thing i've seen as your list slides by. As with New Adventures in Hi Fi, I knew this would be another controversial call. Come on, somebody surprise me for a change. ;) Sure, it's not as good as 1969. But that wasn't released in '90s, was it now? And actually, I'm not that crazy about Max's Kansas City. It's badly recorded, not real inspired and Mo (not to mention Cale) isn't even on it. I'd rank it below MCMXCIII, myself. I know people who think MCMXCIII really taints VU's glories. On the other hand, the new Trouser Press Guide positively raves about it. As for me, I think the album puts enough creative spin on the old songs to make it a great album. Others may disagree, but I don't think the band sounds like they're going through the motions at all. Two prime examples: the heady freakout on the extended version of "Mr. Rain" and Cale's careful performance of "The Gift." And we all know the songwriting is superb -- no question about that. Well, unless you ask Terrence. Eb, really grumpy due to extracurricular online battles, pressing deadlines and an absolutely terrible night's sleep (and besides, LJ owes me email) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1999 13:04:55 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: unca lou On 12/8/99 12:42 PM, dmw wrote: >> 10) The Velvet Underground/Live MCMXCIII > >no kiddin! you already said you weren't interested in discussing >rationale for the selections, didn't you Eb? i thought _live mcmxciii_ >had decent song selection, was well recorded, and the performances were >less tired than i would've expected... After hearing such critical acclaim for this I finally gave it a listen. Man, does Lou even sound like he wants to be there? He sounded like he was doing Sweet Jane in a Vegas lounge. And btw, does anybody know if Cale was reading "The Gift", or could he recite it from memory? - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1999 16:06:48 -0500 (EST) From: Eric Loehr Subject: Re: my own personal top 10 On Wed, 8 Dec 1999, Eb wrote: > >10. robyn's forwarded post to the list in '93 > > I wouldn't mind seeing this, if someone has it saved.... > > honorable-mention Eb > Likewise -- why not forward it to the list (again)? Eric "bubbling under the top 10,000,000 fegposts" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1999 16:27:05 -0500 (EST) From: dmw Subject: Re: unca lou On Wed, 8 Dec 1999, Eb wrote: > they're going through the motions at all. Two prime examples: the heady > freakout on the extended version of "Mr. Rain" and Cale's careful > performance of "The Gift." And we all know the songwriting is superb -- no > question about that. Well, unless you ask Terrence. > > Eb, really grumpy due to extracurricular online battles, pressing deadlines > and an absolutely terrible night's sleep (and besides, LJ owes me email) 'ppreciate that, Eb -- will check out "rain" again. (i flat-out don't like "the gift," which may be part of my problem.) and i'm well aware that my fondness for "max's" is itself a dark-horse choice. someday i might write an eloquent long defense of it, but probably not. i'm looking forward eagerly to the top nine, anyway. - -- d. n.p. doleful lions _the rats are coming, the werewolves are here!_ - - oh no, you've just read mail from doug = dmw@radix.net - get yr pathos - - www.pathetic-caverns.com -- books, flicks, tunes, etc. = reviews - - www.fecklessbeast.com -- angst, guilt, fear, betrayal! = guitar pop ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1999 13:36:09 -0800 (PST) From: John Barrington Jones Subject: Re: Jane Siberry Hey, Eb (or whoever else) Is "When I was A Boy" the album that was produced by Brian Eno? The one with "Let Me Into Your Temple"? Just wondering. I checked whichever one that was out one time from the library, and really enjoyed it. =jbj= On Wed, 8 Dec 1999, Eb wrote: > Dominic: > >And for those > >who don't know, the Indigo Girls have once said that they were Jane's > >biggest fans. > > And that's supposed to *entice* us? Oof. ;) > > Two cents: I like Jane Siberry and have close to all her albums (I've > fallen a bit behind lately, now that she's "indie" and weakly stocked), but > I will say that "When I Was a Boy" is her only album which *really* grabs > me. All her releases have a certain precious, cloying quality, which makes > me grit my teeth and dampens my appreciation for her other virtues. (I've > probably said this before, but I do have a certain sentimental attachment > to No Borders Here, because it was the first album I ever got free as a > "perk." ;)) > > Did anyone hear Howard Stern's phone call with David Letterman this > morning? Woooow. Could Dave BE more bitter about being in second place to > Leno? His nasty comments about Leno were SO tactless and unprofessional > that I really gotta wonder if he's giving serious consideration to > abandoning his show. I despise Leno and all, but jeez, Letterman really > sounded like a loser today. > > Eb > > 10) The Velvet Underground/Live MCMXCIII > > ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V8 #458 *******************************