From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V8 #456 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Tuesday, December 7 1999 Volume 08 : Number 456 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Since the list is dead... [Eb ] Re: Since the list is dead... [John Barrington Jones ] Re: Mandelbrot [normal@grove.ufl.edu] Creme de la Cheez - Top 10s [Michael Wolfe ] "The Green Boy" lyrics [Chris Franz ] Re: Creme de la Cheez - Top 10s [fartachu ] Re: farewell GLR and hello Robyn [fartachu ] Re: Cornwall [fartachu ] Re: Loud Family confusion [fartachu ] the fellow who invented himself [fartachu ] Top 8 things in this email [Joel Mullins ] Re: the fellow who invented himself [Eb ] Re: Top 8 things in this email [Eb ] Re: Creme de la Cheez - Top 10s [normal ] Best of the decade [Dominic ] Re: Creme de la Cheez - Top 10s [MARKEEFE@aol.com] Re: 3 things English [steve ] what is going on in the world? [tanter ] Nice Music [Ethyl Ketone ] Re: Top 8 things in this email [Aaron Mandel ] Re: Since the list is dead... [dmw ] Re: what is going on in the world? [The Great Quail ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1999 16:03:05 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Since the list is dead... ...I'll just have to offer some more words of wisdom from Vic Bonds, this time regarding the Beatles' influence on Charles Manson. Eb 12) NMH/In the Aeroplane Over the Sea >>apart from "Revolution 9", >>it seemed to be McCartney and Harrison's lyrics that >>drove Charlie 'round the bend. >This is true, isn't it?!! MANSON IS A SATANIST AND USED THE POWER OF MAHARISHI DREAMING FOR BAD... IF ONE DOES TOO MUCH TANTRA AND PRACTICES SATANIC RITUALS OF FLYING AND TORTURING LETS SAY MAHARISHI..FOR EXAMPLE.. OR A BLONDE HOLY SPIRIT LADY LIKE SHARON TATE... THE STARS DO GET PICKED ON THE SATANISTS DO GET VERY HIGH ON THE TORTORING OF THE SAINTLY GOOD MOVIE STARS... THEY DO TARGET THEM..AND I HAVE BEEN TORTURED BY SATANISTS AND PAUL HAS WITH CARLOS AND MAHA TRIED TO SAVE ME.. LINDA MAY HAVE BEEN TOO.. THIS MANSION LIKES TO TORTURE BLONDES IN THE UNDERWORLD A SAINT CAN BE BROUGHT WAY DOWN INTO THE UNDERGROUND AND TAUGHT HOW TO CLEAR UP THE PROBLEM OF THIS CHARLES MANSIONS AND OTHERS LIKE HIM AND KEEP THEM FROM TORTURING WITH THEIR GROUP SAINTS LIKE ME. CARLOS PERSONALLY TRAINED ME TO SPOT VAMPIRES CRIMINALS LIKE HIM WHO TRY EVERYTHING IN THE BOOK TO GROW BRILLIANT AND GET THAT LIGHT TANTRA FROM ME WHO IS A FEMALE KETHER OR ECLIPSE AND OTHERS WHO ALSO ARE DEVOTEES OF MAHARISHI AS I AM.. SOME ARE DRUIDS ..SOME ARE INDIANS OF SOUTH AMERICAN DON JUANIANS JOHN WAS INTO BOTH.. HIS YOKO AND HIM LOVE TANTRA AND SAID MAKE PEACE IN BED.. MAN AND WOMAN WOW.. YES..IT IS LIKE THAT. TO LOVE A MAN LIKE PAUL OR JOHN AS YOUR JAIN IS WONDERFUL BUT THERE ARE JEALOUS ONES LIKE CHARLES MANSION THAT GREW TOO BIG AND NEED THAT LIGHT AND ARE NOT SAINTS THEY ARE SATANISTS. YOU SHOULD READ UP ON SATANIC BIBLE AND GET AN IDEA OF WHAT IT IS ABOUT. I AM DEALING WITH STRUGGLING OUT OF THE GRASP AND TORTURE OF SATANIC HANDLING OF MYSELF SOME SAINTS LIKE PAUL HAVE TO LEARN ADVANCED TANTRA MANUVERS TO OUTWIT ONES LIKE CHARLES MANSION THERE IS A REAL WAR ABOUT LIGHT AND POWER UNDERGROUND AND WHEN A PERSON IS A POWERFUL RED MAN OR RED LADY LIKE ME OUR EYES GET OPENED THANK GOODNESS WE HAVE GOD AND GURU ON OUR SIDES AND WE GROW IN WISDOM ANY GURU HAS TO DEAL WITH THE DARK FORCES BUT WHEN JOHN OR PAUL ARE IN IT IT BECOMES NEWS.. LOVE YOU VICTORIA BONDS WILD WINGS ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1999 17:10:21 -0800 (PST) From: John Barrington Jones Subject: Re: Since the list is dead... This was my favorite part: > I AM DEALING WITH STRUGGLING OUT OF THE > GRASP AND TORTURE OF SATANIC > HANDLING OF MYSELF Is that what the kids are calling it these days? :) In any case, it sounds like a case of pure old fashioned Catholic guilt. I promise this is the last off topic smutty post from me for the year. fading off into yesterday, =jbj= ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Dec 1999 09:04:43 +0000 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: Mandelbrot Joel Mullins wrote: > > Anyway, that would be a cool bandname (The Mandelbrot Set). Wouldn't it require an infinite amount of guitar noodling? (Sorry about the late reply; forgot to unsubscribe while I was away.) Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1999 21:37:45 -0500 (EST) From: normal@grove.ufl.edu Subject: Re: Mandelbrot On Mon, 6 Dec 1999, Stewart C. Russell wrote: > Joel Mullins wrote: > > > > Anyway, that would be a cool bandname (The Mandelbrot Set). > > Wouldn't it require an infinite amount of guitar noodling? Thanks a lot, Joel. Now I've got "The Mandelbrot Set (I Presume)" running all through my head. Just got back from seeing Gorbachev speak, though. Kinda interesting. Lots of talk about New World Orders and global responsibility and so on. What little I could understand of the Russian sounded a lot more spirited than the English translation, unfortunately, kinda the Gerry Adams effect in reverse. Still worthwhile, though. Not every day a Nobel Laureate comes to Gainesville. Terrence Marks Unlike Minerva (a comic strip) http://www.unlikeminerva.com normal@grove.ufl.edu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Dec 1999 19:44:37 +0000 (GMT) From: Michael Wolfe Subject: Creme de la Cheez - Top 10s So, it's a week into December and time to start making lists! Yay! Best 10 albums! Even better, by some folks' reckoning, we're at the end of the nineties, so that gives me the opportunity to make TWO lists. I've decided to annotate mine (and to pick a couple of favorite tracks from each), so that it won't be such a completely fatuous exercise. So, without further ado, in reverse order, the Top Ten Albums of the 90's of the Millenium! (I was contractually obliged to use "of the Millenium" in there somewhere.) 10. OK Computer, Radiohead -- Much admired album, probably been discussed to death by most people who follow pop music already. I'm just as susceptable as the next person to its raw emotional power and paradoxically romantic nihilism. (Let Down; Fitter, Happier) 9. Little Earthquakes, Tori Amos -- Tori in her (IMHO) best element. A really strong group of songs simply orchestrated, with a heavy reliance on dynamics for shading. And it works, beautifully. (Silent All These Years; Winter) 8. Laid, James -- Moody and atmospheric, a startlingly cohesive effort from a band whose strength has always been its singles. Eno makes some rather cock-eyed choices in production and orchestration, but pulls almost all of them off. The songs sort of slip past like barges on the river at night. (Out to Get You; Sometimes) 7. Flood, They Might Be Giants -- The perfect TMBG album. The aural equivalent of Dr. Seuss; a collision of children's album and dadaism. Takes advantage of the freedom afforded them by being a duo to the utmost, a feeling which is lost somewhat in their later efforts with the addition of more members. (Lucky Ball and Chain; You Rascist Friend) 6. Mermaid Avenue, Billy Bragg, Wilco, Woody Guthrie -- A flawless execution of an inspired idea: resurrect the unrecorded lyrics of the most important voice of America's working class. Pays homage to the man, and introduces him to a new generation who only knows him for "This Land is Your Land." (California Stars; Way Over Yonder) 5. Eye, Robyn Hitchcock -- Ah, Eye. I can't imagine ANYONE else making an album anything like this one. Sparse, yet highly melodic. Honest and intimate. I love Robyn for a variety of reasons (many of which contradict each other), but these unpolished jewels are among his most compelling work. (Raining Twilight Coast; Aquarium) 4. Kiko, Los Lobos -- Took their (to that date) garage band/R&B party band sound (which was admittedly finely honed, if straightforward) and turned it inside out. A great band getting back to its first principles and taking them in a completely different direction. Witness the title track for how successfully they reconciled their latin and R&B influences. (Saint Behind the Glass; Reva's House) 3. Millionaires, James -- Holy shit. I got this Friday (on import; it's not out in the US yet), and I'm floored. I like James, but they've been really uneven. Sure, Laid is my #8, but their other 3 releases of 90's (James, Seven, Whiplash) had 2-5 good tracks each and the rest was crap. With Millionaires, there's not a single bad track, and you don't even hit a slightly uninteresting one until track eight. Only loses points for being less of a whole album and more like a powerhouse greatest hits collection of previously unreleased songs. (Just Like Fred Astaire; Afro Lover)(or, hell, pick any two at random. Jesus.) 2. In the Aeroplane Over the Sea, Neutral Milk Hotel -- Most of y'all have your own opinions on this already. What blows me away is how of one mind EVERY element of this album is, how every aspect of it serves the artist's vision, from the lyrics to the melody, to Jeff's voice and the arrangements, to the order of songs and the freakin' album art. This last deserves special mention -- I particularly appreciate the combination of whimsy and nostalgia that it evokes. Thanks for introducing me to this, everyone. (In the Aeroplane Over the Sea; Holland 1945) ...and the number one album of the nineties of the millenium: 1. There's Nothing Wrong With Love, Built to Spill -- Lo-fi pop king of the Northwest Doug Martsch waxes romantic on constellations, his unborn daughter, his uncle the David Bowie doppelganger, and small-town life in Idaho. Like a distilled combination of the very best parts of 2 and 5. "You get the car/I'll get the night off/you'll get the chance/to take the world apart/and figure out how it works/Don't let me know what you find out" (Big Dipper; Car; Dystopian Dream Girl) Top 10 of 1999: 10. Hot Rock, Sleater-Kinney -- Superior songwriting makes power trio stand out. (End of You; Get Up) 9. Cul de Sacs and Dead Ends, The Minders -- Rough beatle-esque pop, long on charm. (Now I Can Smile; Bicycle) 8. Keep it Like a Secret, Built To Spill -- The epic ambition of Perfect From Now On's opuses concentrated into half the time. (Time Trap; Else) 7. In Reverse, Matthew Sweet -- A welcome return to form after a stinker in 1997's Blue Sky On Mars. (Future Shock; Trade Places) 6. Out of Here, The Departure Lounge -- Mellow, soulful pop. (Save Me From Happiness; Johnny A.) 5. Midnite Vultures, Beck -- Less challenging than Odelay, but welcome sense of humor makes this my party album of the year. (Sexx Laws; Debra) 4. Black Foliage, Olivia Tremor Control -- The year's most ambitious album, in a walk. (Hideaway; A Place Where We Have Been To) 3. Jewels For Sophia, Robyn Hitchcock -- Robyn rocks out, but also maintains a startling sense of lyricism and melody. (Mexican God; Antwoman) 2. Summerteeth, Wilco -- A smoke-tinged descent into the despair and dysfunction of American poverty. Utterly harrowing. (She's a jar; A shot in the arm) 1. Millionaires, James -- I've waxed rhapsodic about this one above. It's a crime there's no US distribution as yet. Well, that's my $2.50. Hope it provides y'all with a bit of fodder. - -Michael Wolfe ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Dec 1999 20:14:20 -0800 From: Chris Franz Subject: "The Green Boy" lyrics hal brandt wrote: > By the way, I finally figured out that Robyn is singing "First come..." > and "First served..." at the beginning of each verse of the new song > "The Green Boy". Has anyone (eddie?) been able to decipher the rapidly > sung chorus part yet? At Largo in August, he pretty clearly was saying hold-to-me-kiss-to-me-say-to-me-fall-for-me-do-to-me what you will Actually, I'll go one better. His spoken intro mentioned that the story takes place in medieval times (or at leasst theoretical medieval times), about someone who makes themselves completely vulnerable. first pass the man in britches leans against the wall and keeps a green-striped clove-ball in his pouch you know him as your friend but he is filling in for someone first come the girl in britches leans against the wall and keeps a green-striped gourd inside her palm you know her as your love but she is marking time, just mocking time hold-to-me-kiss-to-me-say-to-me-fall-for-me-do-to-me what you will hold-to-me-kiss-to-me-say-to-me-fall-for-me-do-to-me what you will and all the answers are the same as they have been before and all the questions are the same as they've been looking for my friends first served The man in green-striped tights is now in sight he picks his teeth with fragments of his lute you know him as your god but he is here with you and no one else there's no one else hold-to-me-kiss-to-me-say-to-me-fall-for-me-do-to-me what you will hold-to-me-kiss-to-me-say-to-me-fall-for-me-do-to-me what you will and all the answers are the same as they have been before my friends hold-to-me-kiss-to-me-say-to-me-fall-for-me-do-to-me what you will what you will what you will one two three four five - ----- He did say that this was the first time he played it; the song may well have undergone some refinements since then. Hey, you'd've liked this show, Hal, they did a half-assed stab at "Candyman" by the Grateful Dead! - - Chris "Has anyone got a cassette of American Beauty?" - RH ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Dec 1999 23:49:22 -0500 From: fartachu Subject: Re: Creme de la Cheez - Top 10s when we last left our heroes, Michael Wolfe exclaimed: >So, it's a week into December and time to start making lists! i'm not a fan of making lists myself, but i'm not too bad at making lists of other people's lists. unless someone else wants the job, i'll volunteer to collect and compile the feg 1999 top10 and 1990s top10. woj n.p. magnetic fields -- 69 love songs vol.3 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Dec 1999 00:03:21 -0500 From: fartachu Subject: Re: farewell GLR and hello Robyn when we last left our heroes, Ghost Surfer exclaimed: >Robyn will be >on the station from 2 & 6 pm on Saturday when the station broadcasts its >last from their present home in Marylebone High St before they move off for >a while. anyone get this on tape? from the glr website, it looks like robyn did not appear at the most recent benefit gig. +w ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Dec 1999 00:05:14 -0500 From: fartachu Subject: Re: Cornwall when we last left our heroes, overbury@cn.ca exclaimed: >OK fellas -- time to stop pulling Carissa's leg. Cornwall's a little >paper mill town on the St. Lawrence River, with neither king nor >local dialect nor even local pizza variant. Randi or Caroline can >back me up on this. as can i. cornwall was beer-run central for those of us who went to college in upstate new york in the post-21-drinking-age era. bradour! woo hoo! +w ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Dec 1999 23:59:33 -0500 From: fartachu Subject: Re: Loud Family confusion when we last left our heroes, steve exclaimed: >Interbabe Concern is pretty much jumping in at the deep end. It is a bit >of a departure from previous Loud Family albums, but maybe only in >degree. But even hardened Miller vets may have required *several* >listens to grok what was going on. _days for days_ is the one that eludes me. i'm still trying to latch onto it. the between-song noodles really throw me off -- they seem much too linear for the likes of scott miller. however, "that's why we don't live in mauritania" has become a catch phrase of choice to confuse co-workers. >Plants and Birds and Rocks and Things would probably be the best place to >start listening to The Loud Family, _the tape of only linda_ is a good starting place too. scott miller at his most straight-forward, but still giving an inkling of what the band is about. _pbrt_ is more illuminating in the latter category but maybe too disjointed to the unprepared. then again, fegs like to live dangerously. >Once you've done that, you'll want >to start haunting the used bins to pick up all the Game Theory albums, >especially Lolita Nation. many thanks to a certain feg for my copy of the lolita nation cd. woo hoo! +w ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Dec 1999 00:22:05 -0500 From: fartachu Subject: the fellow who invented himself so...i asked the author of the phoenix times piece about what he meant by "small-time inventor" when describing robyn. his reply: >As for an invention besides "himself", i was speaking of the pen he >created. I consider this an invention, at least some kind of engineering feat. so there you go... woj ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Dec 1999 00:41:22 -0800 From: Joel Mullins Subject: Top 8 things in this email Well, since no one seems to have anything to post (except for woj), I thought I'd mention a few things. 1) I got some great CDs this weekend. I found a new copy of Oranges and Lemons for like 6 bucks and figured I should go ahead and get it on CD (I've had it on tape for years, so this was no big deal.) But when I got home, I realized that the girl at the checkout stand had not charged me for the CD. I had paid for the movies that I rented (plus my fine), but the CD was fucking free! So, I said "thanks checkout girl" and "fuck you superstore" and went back the next day to spend that 6 bucks on The Big Express. I've had a copy of this one for a few years, but I never liked it, so had only heard it once or twice about 5 years ago. I guess I finally "got" whatever it was that I needed to "get," because now I love it! Listening to it in headphones is fucking amazing. I love the way they slow the train down at the end. And Andy or Dave or both play some mean fucking guitar that makes Nonsuch sound pillowy (I don't think I've ever called something pillowy before, and I'm not sure what I think it means.) So, then I was on such an XTC rush that I grabbed a used copy of Rag and Bone Buffet. I really like this as well, though not quite as much as The Big Express. "Tissue Tigers" is killer. However, the skips in tracks 9 and 23 suck! Luckily, the store took the CD back and ordered me another one (and well hell . . . as long as they're ordering me that one, they might as well get me Black Sea and English Settlement too, right?) So, I had them order all that. I figure if I like those, then I'll keep moving backwards through XTC albums. I've always been afraid that I wouldn't like the earlier stuff, but I may have been wrong. 2. Anyway, finals are coming up. Is that why no one's posting? 3. I read something on the net about Andy Partridge. It was a quote from him about people's perceptions of the English (that they all collect something, have bad teeth, and are gay). He said he fit two out of three. To which two is he referring? I bet he collects guitars or something. I don't think I've ever seen him with an open mouth, so maybe he's always trying to hide his bad teeth. And his sexuality is something I wouldn't know anything about, not having ever met the guy. All three are damn good possibilities. Actually, I'd say that all three are damn good possibilities no matter what country a person comes from. 4. Only in a forum like this could someone ask the following question: is woj a boy or a girl? Okay, stop laughing! How should I know? I used to think woj was a guy, but there have been some things said lately that have led me to consider the possibility of me being wrong. Not that it matters or anything. I've just been curious and since no one else is really posting, I figured we could talk about woj's reproductive organs. Hopefully, Mark won't get jealous. Hell, we've already discussed Capuchin's breasts, or someone's, I can't remember whose, so this discussion isn't far off. 5. Saw Entrapment this weekend. Cool gadgets. Shitty movie. 6. Has anyone seen the new Bond film? 7. End of finals - seven days. Graduation - eleven days. 8. In case anyone's wondering, I'm a boy. Later Joel np: XTC / Oranges and Lemons ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1999 00:10:37 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: the fellow who invented himself >>As for an invention besides "himself", i was speaking of the pen he >>created. I consider this an invention, at least some kind of engineering >feat. > >so there you go... Oh gawd. Cutesy, cutesy, cutesy. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1999 00:16:00 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: Top 8 things in this email >3. I read something on the net about Andy Partridge. It was a quote >from him about people's perceptions of the English (that they all >collect something, have bad teeth, and are gay). He said he fit two out >of three. To which two is he referring? I bet he collects guitars or >something. I forget exactly what, but I think AP collects something having to do with the military. I'm sure Gnat and Steve will chime in presently.... >4. Only in a forum like this could someone ask the following question: >is woj a boy or a girl? Okay, stop laughing! How should I know? I >used to think woj was a guy, but there have been some things said lately >that have led me to consider the possibility of me being wrong. Try not to let Woj's musical tastes confuse you. He's all MAAAAN, baby. ;) Eb ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Dec 1999 08:45:10 +0000 (GMT) From: normal Subject: Re: Creme de la Cheez - Top 10s On Mon, 6 Dec 1999, Michael Wolfe wrote: > 7. Flood, They Might Be Giants -- The perfect TMBG album. The I always thought that Apollo 18 was the perfect TMBG album. Harder rockin'. Displays serious competence (TMBG are underrated instrumentalists). A more mature sense of humor. > 3. Millionaires, James -- Holy shit. I got this Friday (on Is this Jools Holland's band or another Millionaires? Terrence Marks Unlike Minerva (a comic strip) http://www.unlikeminerva.com normal@grove.ufl.edu ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Dec 1999 17:10:44 -0500 From: Dominic Subject: Best of the decade Hey, here's my Top 25 list (in no particular order) : - -Sam Phillips' "Martinis & Bikinis" - -Maria Mckee's "Life Is Sweet" - -Lemonheads' "It's A Shame About Ray" - -Mark Eitzel's "West" - -Elliott Smith's "XO" - -XTC's "Nonsuch" - -Squeeze's "Ridiculous" - -Wilco's "Summerteeth" - -Billy Bragg's "William Bloke" - -Aztec Camera's "Frestonia" - -Juliana Hatfield's "Hey Babe" and "Only Everything" - -Elvis Costello's "Brutal Youth" - -Aimee Mann's "I'm With Stupid" - -Michael Penn's "Resigned" - -Lucinda Williams' "Car Wheels On A Gravel Road" - -Heatmiser's "Mic City Sons" - -Matthew Sweet's "In Reverse" - -Loud Family's "Plants & Birds & Rocks & Things" - -Liz Phair's "Whip-Smart" - -Beautiful South's "0898" - -Blake Babies' "Sunburn" - -Blue Rodeo's "Casino" - -Fountains Of Wayne's "Utopia Parkway" - -Cake's "Fashion Nugget" - -Radiohead's "OK Computer" Take care ! Dominic Montreal ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1999 06:11:06 EST From: MARKEEFE@aol.com Subject: Re: Creme de la Cheez - Top 10s Well, Michael Wolfe has thrown down the gauntlet, and I'm happy and (mostly) ready to follow suit . . . well, not to throw down yet another gauntlet, but to add to the merriment of list-making. These are definitely subjective lists of favorites, rather than objective lists of albums that I thought contributed the most to yadda-yadda and so forth . . . 1990's: 10. Trash Can Sinatras: "I've Seen Everything" (1993) 9. REM: "Automatic for the People" (1992) 8. Verlaines: "Ready to Fly" (1991) 7. Jack: "Pioneer Soundtracks" (1996) 6. Robyn Hitchcock: "Eye" (1990) 5. Jeff Buckley: "Grace" (1994) 4. Neutral Milk Hotel: "In the Aeroplane Over the Sea" (1998) 3. Marillion: "Brave" (1994) 2. Tindersticks: "Tindersticks" (1st) (1993) 1. Radiohead: "OK Computer" (1997) 1999: 10. Snakefarm: "Songs From My Funeral" 9. XTC: "Apple Venus, Volume I" 8. Pavement: "Terror Twilight" 7. Moby: "Play" 6. Built to Spill: "Keep It Like a Secret" 5. Tindersticks: "Simple PLeasure" 4. Flaming Lips: "The Soft Bulletin" 3. Magnetic Fields: "69 Love Songs" 2. Marillion: "marillion.com" 1. Robyn Hitchcock: "Jewels for Sophia" - -----Michael K. So, should we wait until the *actual* end of the millennium (i.e., 'round 'bout this same time next year) to post lists of favorites of the century/millennium/all-time? I kinda think so. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1999 08:57:20 -0600 From: steve Subject: Re: 3 things English Eb: >I forget exactly what, but I think AP collects something having to do with >the military. I'm sure Gnat and Steve will chime in presently.... Toy soldiers Cool find from the sixties: Billy Nicholls - "Would You Believe" - a must have if you like Smile-ish stuff like Sagittarius or The Millennium. - - Steve _______________ We're all Jesus, Buddha, and the Wizard of Oz! - Andy Partridge ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Dec 1999 10:01:38 -0600 From: tanter Subject: what is going on in the world? I just read that a Dutch student shot up his school and a teacher and 3 other people were hurt. You can't convince me that our lax gun policies aren't going to have repercussions--sure, this kid could have had the idea on his own with absolutely no influence coming from the school shootings here, but it's too coincidental. What is wrong with all these kids and the fucking guns? I just don't get it! Marcy (I'm almost afraid to send my son to school anymore!) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1999 11:23:12 -0500 From: Ethyl Ketone Subject: Nice Music Saw a show in NY (the Bottom Line - what a great venue!) this weekend: Jane Siberry I knew nothing about her but the friends I took to see the Rock Armada took me to this show. She played solo - guitar (electric) and piano, sang silly and serious songs, had stuffed bunnies on the stage and told stories (apparently impromptu) throughout the performance. Spoke to the audience alot. Invited an audience member up on stage to play piano on one of her songs. All in all a refreshing and entertaining evening. Don't think I'll run out and buy all her music but enjoyed the show. Reminded me a little of someone we all talk about... She seemed a little too *nice* in a puppy and kitten kind of way however... Be Seeing You, - - carrie "Questions are a burden for others. Answers are a prison for oneself." **************************************************************************** C. J. Galbraith Ketone Press meketone@ix.netcom.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1999 11:33:24 -0500 (EST) From: Aaron Mandel Subject: Re: Top 8 things in this email On Tue, 7 Dec 1999, Joel Mullins wrote: > 3. I read something on the net about Andy Partridge. It was a quote > from him about people's perceptions of the English (that they all > collect something, have bad teeth, and are gay). He said he fit two > out of three. To which two is he referring? in a Rolling Stone interview years ago he said the same thing except that he specified tin soldiers as the thing that one must collect... anyway, he collects tin soldiers, has bad teeth, and had a kid with his ex-wife. (i always thought "Pink Thing" was about his personal pink thing, but i'm told it was supposed to also refer to his baby.) > 4. Only in a forum like this could someone ask the following question: > is woj a boy or a girl? Okay, stop laughing! How should I know? there are feg photo pages somewhere, from which i discovered the identity of a handful of fegs i saw holding microphones at shows from back when i was embarrassed to walk up to such people and ask them if they were on the list. a ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1999 11:48:08 -0500 (EST) From: dmw Subject: Re: Since the list is dead... On Mon, 6 Dec 1999, Eb wrote: > ...I'll just have to offer some more words of wisdom from Vic Bonds, this > time regarding the Beatles' influence on Charles Manson. > > THIS MANSION LIKES TO TORTURE BLONDES > IN THE UNDERWORLD A SAINT CAN BE BROUGHT > WAY DOWN INTO THE UNDERGROUND AND TAUGHT > HOW TO CLEAR UP THE PROBLEM OF THIS > TO LOVE A MAN LIKE PAUL OR JOHN > AS YOUR JAIN IS WONDERFUL > BUT THERE ARE JEALOUS ONES LIKE CHARLES a little judicious editing and some work on the scansion, and blamed if i don't think there's a song lyric lurking in here. i especially like the manson/mansion typo, and i think i might change every other occurence of "torture" to "tutor." thanks, Eb! - -- d. np _a splendid tray_ anton barbeau - - oh no, you've just read mail from doug = dmw@radix.net - get yr pathos - - www.pathetic-caverns.com -- books, flicks, tunes, etc. = reviews - - www.fecklessbeast.com -- angst, guilt, fear, betrayal! = guitar pop ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1999 11:47:01 -0500 From: The Great Quail Subject: Re: what is going on in the world? Marcy writes, >I just read that a Dutch student shot up his school and a teacher and 3 other >people were hurt. You can't convince me that our lax gun policies aren't >going to have repercussions--sure, this kid could have had the idea on his own >with absolutely no influence coming from the school shootings here, but it's >too coincidental. What is wrong with all these kids and the fucking guns? I >just don't get it! Lord knows I am just as distraught and confused about this epidemic of shootings; and I, as an actual member of the NRA (lapsed years ago, did not renew. My dad was a rifle instructor for the NRA) who has been raised around guns and *likes* to shoot them -- even I am beginning to think we need firmer gun control. BUT come on, Marcy, this is the *Dutch!* To claim that *our* lax policies on anything are influential on the Dutch, of all people! This is a nation that, God bless them, legalized heroin, cannabis bars, prostitution, sex clubs, and Heinekin Beer. . . . - --Quail +---------+---------+---------+---------+---------+---------+---------+ The Great Quail, K.S.C. (riverrun Discordian Society, Kibroth-hattaavah Branch) For fun with postmodern literature, New York vampires, and Fegmania, visit Sarnath: http://www.rpg.net/quail "The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents." -- H.P. Lovecraft ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V8 #456 *******************************