From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V8 #452 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Friday, December 3 1999 Volume 08 : Number 452 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Cornwall [overbury@cn.ca] Re: The WTO, Eddie, and rubber bullets (sorry, no Robyn here) [overbury@c] It's all true... [Thoth Mother ] obscure E6 info [Natalie Jacobs ] RE: Cornwall [tanter ] wto ["Anal Oil Leakage" ] Usenet post in rec.music.dylan [Eb ] Mimolette ["Tony Blackman" ] Re: Robyn's crack-cocaine cheeseRe: fegmaniax-digest V8 #449 ["matt sewel] Re: Robyn's crack-cocaine cheeseRe: fegmaniax-digest V8 #449 ["matt sewel] Re: fegmaniax-digest V8 #451 [DDerosa5@aol.com] RE: Cornwall [Michael R Godwin ] RE: Cornwall ["matt sewell" ] RE: Cornwall ["Thomas, Ferris" ] RE: the Matter of Britain [Michael R Godwin ] RE: Cornwall ["matt sewell" ] Re: wto [Michael R Godwin ] RE: the Matter of Britain ["matt sewell" ] RE: the Matter of Britain [Marcy Tanter ] Fanespew [Christopher Gross ] RE: the Matter of Britain ["matt sewell" ] RE: the Matter of Britain [dr john halewood ] RE: the Matter of Britain ["matt sewell" ] Re: Cornwall [Jon Fetter ] RE: the Matter of Britain [overbury@cn.ca] RE: the Matter of Britain [Marcy Tanter ] Re: ....and another one for Stipe ["Russ Reynolds" ] RE: Cornwall [Tom Clark ] Tape Trader Ring Update [Plpalmer@ix.netcom.com] INTERNET LEGISLATION [Ken Ostrander ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1999 22:48:33 -0500 From: overbury@cn.ca Subject: Re: Cornwall On 3 Dec 99, at 16:05, James Dignan wrote: > > Does anyone know if there really is a place called Cornwall? > > no offence intended Carissa, but coffee came out of my nose when I read > that. I suppose the equivalent would be someone in the UK asking "does > Florida exist?". > OK fellas -- time to stop pulling Carissa's leg. Cornwall's a little paper mill town on the St. Lawrence River, with neither king nor local dialect nor even local pizza variant. Randi or Caroline can back me up on this. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1999 23:06:11 -0500 From: overbury@cn.ca Subject: Re: The WTO, Eddie, and rubber bullets (sorry, no Robyn here) On 2 Dec 99, at 18:51, Carole Reichstein wrote: > For what it's worth, John Zerzan, a well-known anarchist from Eugene, > claimed that his group of anarchists started breaking/graffitting/setting > fires until *after* the cops started using tear gas on the peaceful > protesters. Now there's a sure way to get the police to back off a bit and win sympathy for the cause. Nice move, Zerzan! Please be careful, friends. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1999 23:10:03 -0500 (EST) From: Thoth Mother Subject: It's all true... Yes, it is true what the Hmuh'd one has told you. From his shiny beak flows nothing but prophecy. Even now, yet another of my shiny minions wings its way towards the west coast, there to be brought all unwittingly into the abode of He-Who-Bears-No-Resemblance-To-George-Clooney, as yet another California city is infected with the joyous ways of aluminum madness. And think! Already there slumbers a Thothling in the seemingly impregnable hotel of the one they call MANGUM, whose hands flow with milk and holy water, for I have bewitched his paramour, Laura of the Zanzithophone That Was Broken, and his companion, the Gnome, and his friends, the Hart That Purred, Helium of the Mighty Chops, and others in his retinue. And in the wildest Northwest, Thothlings teem within a cage, pursued by a tentacled Brother, watched over by yet another Brother who is known as the Quimbies Mouse. At the stroke of midnight, four weeks from now, the aluminum which comprises their bodies, seemingly so weak, will become strong: they will bend the bars of their cage and rise up singing, along with their companions, the Monkey and the Lyon, and other Fegs throughout this most Feggish of all cities. They will be joined by Brothers in the household of Martyn the Talkative, wise in the ways of pop and Partridge, who will join with us as well (if we can ever get him to shut up). The streets of Portland will run with Mimolette, red wine, hummus, and tomatoes, and there will be much feasting and rejoicing and listening to "The Big Express," as the ibis-headed one smiles down upon each and every one of us. Never deny the power of Thoth, for he knows all, and he sees all, and soon you too will become one with him. - - the Mother ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1999 23:22:26 -0500 (EST) From: Natalie Jacobs Subject: obscure E6 info >speaking of those riders, i read that the essex green will >be releasing an album on the elephant 6 label next week. anyone have any >idea who these guys are? and while i'm at it, has anyone heard >secret square (sort of the collective rhythm section) or clay bears? >web info is scant. just how many of these albums have come out? The Essex Green are a side project of the Ladybug Transistor. Secret Square consists of Hilarie Schneider from the Apples in Stereo and one of her friends. The Clay Bears are apocryphal and may never have existed. I think they supposedly consisted of members of Neutral Milk Hotel. I seem to recall a story about them playing one gig and getting kicked off stage. Of these three, I've only heard the Essex Green. Kinda twee orchestrated pop, as I recall. WCBN's copy of their CD has gone missing so I can't tell you more. They do have their own website, though. Secret Square have released something - I think there's info about it at www.applesinstereo.com. That's all I know. n. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Dec 1999 22:30:19 -0600 From: tanter Subject: RE: Cornwall >===== Original Message From overbury@cn.ca ===== >On 3 Dec 99, at 16:05, James Dignan wrote: > >> > Does anyone know if there really is a place called Cornwall? >> >> no offence intended Carissa, but coffee came out of my nose when I read >> that. I suppose the equivalent would be someone in the UK asking "does >> Florida exist?". >> > >OK fellas -- time to stop pulling Carissa's leg. Cornwall's a little >paper mill town on the St. Lawrence River, with neither king nor >local dialect nor even local pizza variant. Randi or Caroline can >back me up on this. What are you guys trying to do to this poor woman? Everyone knows that Cornwall is the mythical county that bred King Arthur at Tintagel. Sheesh, as Eb would say. (You can trust me, Carissa, I'm a professor! ;) ) Marcy L. Tanter Assistant Professor of English Tarleton State University Stephenville, TX 76401 254-968-9892 (9039 to leave a message) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Dec 1999 23:23:22 PST From: "Anal Oil Leakage" Subject: wto way off-topic and boring, but just to clear up any possible misconceptions: don't know how the story's been spun nationwide, but trust me when i say that one did not by a LONG shot need to be involved in vandalism and/or looting to get gassed and/or shot. in point of fact, the final time i was gassed (which coincided with my being shot) i was walking down pine st. looking for some place to catch a bus! the fuzz were really pretty out of control. uh, i've submitted a coupla paragraphs on the subject to Eat The State!, if anyone's interested. i suppose they'll run it next week. . the awful truth is, i wasn't doing much "protesting" at all, peaceful or otherwise. once the lines were more less drawn, there was nothing much to do, save shouting slogans -- an activity i try greatly to avoid, as it makes me feel awfully stupid. i was mostly just walking around taking pictures. and while i was quite impressed with the numbers of people in the street -- pretty much *any given intersection* in downtown had more people than any protest in the city since probably the gulf war -- i *still* can't figure out why this was such a "marker" event for activists. why don't imf meetings draw such attention, for example? or the obliteration of iraq? (halliday, who should probably know as well as anybody, has said that genocide is the only appropriate word for u.s. policy.) moreover, i was actually rather infuriated by the inaccuracies put forth in the myriad left analyses of the organisation during the long run-up to the conference. all of which is to say that i didn't put all that much time and energy into the event, and certainly didn't consider it worth my time in risking arrest. so if it makes you feel any better rosso, while i'm not philosophically opposed to property damage (especially when conducted upon ELF antennas, warheads and the like) i wasn't involved in the breaking of any windows. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1999 01:24:32 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Usenet post in rec.music.dylan hwycdrrev@AOL.COM (David Hwycdrrev) wrote: > Just found these . . . have NOT tried them out yet . . . but Robyn > Hitchcock is a brilliant songwriter and performer, obviously influenced by > Dylan, Lennon, McGuinn, Barrett, and Python (Monty), but he also has his > own unique artistic voice . . . > Try these: (hope I typed these correctly .. .) > for LEOPARD SKIN PILLBOX HAT w/Mickey Jones--> > http://glasshotel.net/gh/theatre.htm > > for SHELTER FROM THE STORM live in Cambridge MA --> > http://glasshotel.net/gh/ftp/audio/shelterstorm.mp3 > > if all else fails, > the website is called FEGMANIA . . . browse around . . . > new in JAN 2000 from robynhitchcock.com --> > "alternative version of JEWELS FOR SOPHIA CD called A STAR FOR BRAM . . . > > ps Robyn has performed the entire LIVE 66 concert, as well as OUTLAW BLUES, > BORN IN TIME and many more Dylan tracks . . ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1999 09:49:31 +0000 From: "Tony Blackman" Subject: Mimolette Carole said: > What's up with this "Mimolette" cheese? Has anyone on the list ever tried > it? Is it a limburger sort of thing, or just a triple-cream sorta cheese? > > Never heard of it myself, but then, Robyn probably knows much more about > cheese than I do. St. Andre's about the richest kind I've tried. Mimolette's from Northern France (Lille, I think) and is a round cheese (similar to Edam and Gouda) that is very orange indeed. It has a consistency very similar to Gouda. It is often just aged for six months and sold young in wedges, but it can be left for up to 2 years ("vieille extra") when it will have a thicker "crust". It was, so they say, General de Gaulle's favourite cheese. Ah, Cheese, now we're talking! Now I'm going to have to go out and look for some Munster, the smelliest cheese I know..... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Dec 1999 11:21:43 GMT From: "matt sewell" Subject: Re: Robyn's crack-cocaine cheeseRe: fegmaniax-digest V8 #449 >What's up with this "Mimolette" cheese? Has anyone on the list ever tried >it? Is it a limburger sort of thing, or just a triple-cream sorta cheese? > >Never heard of it myself, but then, Robyn probably knows much more about >cheese than I do. St. Andre's about the richest kind I've tried. > >Carole, who wonders if Robyn has ever eaten cheese on Ritz crackers > > I'm not sure why it would make you lie on the floor, IIRC it's similar in texture to edam, though with a stronger flavour. On the subject of RH and ritz, all I can say is that over here Bath Olivers are the only biscuit for cheese (though should you put butter on the biscuit - - a subject hotly debated by my French housemates and myself!) Matt ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Dec 1999 11:21:43 GMT From: "matt sewell" Subject: Re: Robyn's crack-cocaine cheeseRe: fegmaniax-digest V8 #449 >What's up with this "Mimolette" cheese? Has anyone on the list ever tried >it? Is it a limburger sort of thing, or just a triple-cream sorta cheese? > >Never heard of it myself, but then, Robyn probably knows much more about >cheese than I do. St. Andre's about the richest kind I've tried. > >Carole, who wonders if Robyn has ever eaten cheese on Ritz crackers > > I'm not sure why it would make you lie on the floor, IIRC it's similar in texture to edam, though with a stronger flavour. On the subject of RH and ritz, all I can say is that over here Bath Olivers are the only biscuit for cheese (though should you put butter on the biscuit - - a subject hotly debated by my French housemates and myself!) Matt ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1999 06:30:37 EST From: DDerosa5@aol.com Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V8 #451 In a message dated 12/2/99 9:14:11 PM Central Standard Time, John Hedges, 4th Patsy of the Apocalypse offered for our non-edification: www.smalltime.com. but, SmallTime are weird: You see, the advantage of being a part of the HiveMind(tm) is that you'll never be lonely again! Ever wished you had a soulmate? Well, wish no more! Soon you'll have all the company you've ever wanted. And, as smalltime industries gains acceptance the world over, you'll meet people you never knew existed! ALL THIS WITHOUT HAVING TO LEAVE YOUR COUCH. huh, sounds like part of RH's GoF manifesto.... and, Carole Reichstein reported: For what it's worth, John Zerzan, a well-known anarchist from Eugene, claimed that his group of anarchists started breaking/graffitting/setting fires until *after* the cops started using tear gas on the peaceful protesters. WOW, JZ?! Author of Agriculture, Demon Engine of Civilization, and editor of Questioning Technology? The radical from Fifth Estate whose writing could make Jeme's head explode upon mere "exposure to the cover of Alternative Press Review" alone? Actually doing something other than criticize? Wow, maybe now the cops will figure out that he's the real Unabomber, not that Kaczynski patsy. Zerzan makes my head hurt more than even Philip Jose Farmer, whose politics made him throw Herman Goering and Mark Twain in the rign together. Zerzan writes parables that would lead one to believe that all modern politics is a farce. He'd be right of course, but what a disruptive person. Kill him like Socrates! Birthday was good, listened to old Fishbone and new NMH and danced. Also heard Allan Nairn talk on East Timor tonight, with an analysis that violence in Seattle was right because it was not in support of a violent movement abroad. "Trade talks, how boring" was shattered, and Americans and their vassals must come to terms with the idea that economics has real world consequences. Fuck Mike Moore and anyone else of his ilk from the "Labor Party" , for whom you could vote in 1974 but you can't anymore. Here's hoping that Indonesia's army crumbles, and Freeport McMoran, Mobil Oil, and anyone related to Suharto goes with it. Down with Citigroup! I say we all get credit cards with them, transfer all balances to them, and declare bankruptcy! that'll teach em.... done trying to make sense or type clearly, dave ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1999 12:09:35 +0000 (GMT) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: RE: Cornwall On Thu, 2 Dec 1999, tanter wrote: > What are you guys trying to do to this poor woman? Everyone knows that > Cornwall is the mythical county that bred King Arthur at Tintagel. > Sheesh, as Eb would say. > (You can trust me, Carissa, I'm a professor! ;) ) Nothing mythical about it. You can go to Tintagel and see the guaranteed bona fide Round Table any day of the week, made of high-quality Victorian plywood (oops, what a giveaway). The castle is still there and everything. Amazing place, specially if you like cream teas. You can trust me, I'm a researcher in tax policy. - - Mike Godwin pp Sir Harry le Fise Lake, Sir Bors de Ganis, Sir Aglovale and Sir Urre of the Mount PS And King Arthur is of course from Cadbury, in the county of Somerset. Not Cornwall, which is two counties away :) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Dec 1999 13:27:46 GMT From: "matt sewell" Subject: RE: Cornwall Mr Godwin informs us: >Nothing mythical about it. You can go to Tintagel and see the guaranteed >bona fide Round Table any day of the week, made of high-quality Victorian >plywood (oops, what a giveaway). The castle is still there and everything. >Amazing place, specially if you like cream teas. > >You can trust me, I'm a researcher in tax policy. > > Tintagel is well worth a visit, particularly the beach, with its special feature: Merlin's Cave - I once had a scary experience whilst sleeping there. No-one told me the tide comes in and flows right through it! Luckily I was on a shelf, so avoided being swept out to sea... Cadbury castle was apparently Camelot, complete with its round table, which was actually made entirely of chocolate. Arthur's resting place, though, is under Glastonbury Tor (Glastonbury, for ye heads among you is apparently heart chakra of the world, and can't you just feel it...). Don't dig for it, though, it's now full of water! You can trust me...I'm Geoffrey Archer! Mystic Matt ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1999 09:26:20 -0500 From: "Thomas, Ferris" Subject: RE: Cornwall Lies! All of it! It's a sleepy town here in Connecticut! > -----Original Message----- > From: overbury@cn.ca [mailto:overbury@cn.ca] > Sent: Thursday, December 02, 1999 10:49 PM > To: fegmaniax@smoe.org > Subject: Re: Cornwall > > > On 3 Dec 99, at 16:05, James Dignan wrote: > > > > Does anyone know if there really is a place called Cornwall? > > > > no offence intended Carissa, but coffee came out of my nose > when I read > > that. I suppose the equivalent would be someone in the UK > asking "does > > Florida exist?". > > > > OK fellas -- time to stop pulling Carissa's leg. Cornwall's a little > paper mill town on the St. Lawrence River, with neither king nor > local dialect nor even local pizza variant. Randi or Caroline can > back me up on this. > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1999 14:38:28 +0000 (GMT) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: RE: the Matter of Britain On Fri, 3 Dec 1999, matt sewell wrote: > You can trust me...I'm Geoffrey Archer! A better bet would be to trust Geoffrey Ashe, author of numerous books on King Arthur and the Isle of Avalon. See for example his excellent encyclopaedia entry at: http://www.britannia.com/history/arthur1.html (+ 3 further parts). - - Mike Godwin (One of the three golden tax policy researchers of the Isle of Britain) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Dec 1999 14:40:25 GMT From: "matt sewell" Subject: RE: Cornwall > > > I suppose the equivalent would be someone in the UK > > asking "does > > > Florida exist?". > > > Well, does it? ISTR hearing something about its mythical Kool Beanz... also doesn't legend have it that it was the site of King George of Washington's castle? And that story about alligators...pshaw! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1999 14:51:34 +0000 (GMT) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: wto On Thu, 2 Dec 1999, Anal Oil Leakage wrote: > -- i *still* can't figure > out why this was such a "marker" event for activists. why don't imf > meetings draw such attention, for example? or the obliteration of iraq? I think there are two strands of protest mixed up here. One is the "development" strand, where people are protesting about the way that free trade rules are imposed on poor countries, while the rich countries refuse to open up their markets to food and cloth imports from the third world. The other is the "environmental" strand, where people are protesting about the WTO over-ruling countries who have tried to ban: a) fish which are not caught in dolphin-friendly nets; b) genetically modified organisms; c) cosmetics which are tested on animals; d) hormone-treated beef; e) etc. My impression is that it is the environmental strand which has mobilised additional people against the WTO who maybe felt less directly affected by US-UK policies to starve children in Iraq. - - Mike Godwin ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Dec 1999 15:00:36 GMT From: "matt sewell" Subject: RE: the Matter of Britain >A better bet would be to trust Geoffrey Ashe, author of numerous books on >King Arthur and the Isle of Avalon. See for example his excellent >encyclopaedia entry at: >http://www.britannia.com/history/arthur1.html >(+ 3 further parts). Hmm...interesting...I thought this was a purely mythical URL! Is Bath really a place? Matt "I've seen the future looking at entrails nailed to a tree and boy does it look messy" Sewell ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Dec 1999 09:26:31 -0600 From: Marcy Tanter Subject: RE: the Matter of Britain At 03:00 PM 12/3/99 +0000, you wrote: > >Is Bath really a place? Sure is. My kids were in it last night for about half an hour. Dr. Marcy Tanter ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1999 10:55:51 -0500 (EST) From: Christopher Gross Subject: Fanespew Here at work, we have frequent network outages, but usually they're either brief or localized. Yesterday, however, the whole network went down for over six hours starting at about 12:30 pm EST; and when I say went down, it went down hard. Absolutely nothing worked. That thing was *daid*. EEG flat as a *strap*.... Anyway, once we could finally get back online, what did I find in my email? That's right -- a hefty slab of insanity courtesy of Dr. Fane, sent at 12:34 that afternoon! Coincidence, you say? I don't think we can afford to be so naive. And here's the kicker -- I just happen to have one of those aluminum foil Thoths sitting right here on top of my computer! What more proof would anyone need? Folks, I'll frankly admit that I'm frightened. But at least we have Dr. Fane around to warn us about these Quailspiracies. If only people would listen.... - --Auntie Marx np: King Crimson, _B'Boom_ ______________________________________________________________________ Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Dec 1999 16:16:04 GMT From: "matt sewell" Subject: RE: the Matter of Britain > >Is Bath really a place? > > >Sure is. My kids were in it last night for about half an hour. > > >Dr. Marcy Tanter > You mean there was room with Mike Godwin already in there? :-p Matt ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1999 16:23:40 -0000 From: dr john halewood Subject: RE: the Matter of Britain hmm... as we're getting started on this I'd just like to throw in a mention of some of my favourite places, particularly Thwing, just a few miles up the road from here. cheers john p.s. I think we'll leave Penistone for TGQ... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Dec 1999 16:41:45 GMT From: "matt sewell" Subject: RE: the Matter of Britain >hmm... > as we're getting started on this I'd just like to >throw in a mention of some of my favourite places, >particularly Thwing, just a few miles up the road from >here. > As you may know, cornwall has the beast of bodmin moor - is there a thing of thwing? >p.s. I think we'll leave Penistone for TGQ... Is that the sound it makes when blown? Matt "childish knob gags? Me?" Sewell ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1999 11:46:38 -0500 From: Jon Fetter Subject: Re: Cornwall Cornwall is also a small town in Central Pennsylvania that had a foundry from the mid-18th century to 1972. As far as I know, no Glosters or Dignans were involved in its founding. It made cannons for Washington to shoot real cannonballs at the British in the Rev. War and rubber cannonballs at revolting farmers after the war. He probably spent the night in Cornwall. It now has a large water-filled ore quarry on one side and a beautiful old red stone church that has been ruined by a modern addition. I have never seen a wall of corn, except for a rectangular corn bin that was enclosed in chicken wire andthat was really tall becasue I was really little at the time. My wife tells me there is an uncommon dearth of Cornwalls in Taiwan. Perhaps one could be an exchange borough/town. Jon >On 3 Dec 99, at 16:05, James Dignan wrote: > >> > Does anyone know if there really is a place called Cornwall? >> >> no offence intended Carissa, but coffee came out of my nose when I read >> that. I suppose the equivalent would be someone in the UK asking "does >> Florida exist?". >> > >OK fellas -- time to stop pulling Carissa's leg. Cornwall's a little >paper mill town on the St. Lawrence River, with neither king nor >local dialect nor even local pizza variant. Randi or Caroline can >back me up on this. __________________________________________________________________ "With the growth of boredom and restlessness, he saw, cruelty and subtlety and revolt were growing apace. There was more and more cosmic abnormality, more and more curious sadism, more and more ignorance and superstition, and more and more desire to escape out of physical life into a half-spectral state of electronic dispersal." --H.P. Lovecraft, "The Mound" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1999 12:01:17 -0500 From: overbury@cn.ca Subject: RE: the Matter of Britain Dr. John Halewood said: > hmm... > as we're getting started on this I'd just like to > throw in a mention of some of my favourite places, > particularly Thwing, just a few miles up the road from > here. Cheesequake, NJ, USA. Somebody ring the cheese alarm! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Dec 1999 11:06:11 -0600 From: Marcy Tanter Subject: RE: the Matter of Britain At 12:01 PM 12/3/99 -0500, you wrote: > >Dr. John Halewood said: > >> hmm... >> as we're getting started on this I'd just like to >> throw in a mention of some of my favourite places, >> particularly Thwing, just a few miles up the road from >> here. > >Cheesequake, NJ, USA. Somebody ring the cheese alarm! Cheddar Gorge is in the UK. Dr. Marcy Tanter ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Dec 1999 09:35:32 -0800 From: "Russ Reynolds" Subject: Re: ....and another one for Stipe >><>good album this >>decade. The last kick ass thing they did was Life's >>Rich Pageant.>> > >Smoke some of your herbal remedy and listen to Up with the lights out and >get back to us... That's the same herbal remedy that makes the Grateful Dead sound good, right? - -rUss PS: I dunno...I thought Document was pretty kick ass too. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Dec 1999 09:42:02 -0800 From: "Russ Reynolds" Subject: Bra school Uber: >>My question is, can I go back to college and *major* in this? Shit, I >>could be the proud possessor of a Doctorate of Hooter Engineering! Come to >>think of it, Tom & Russ would probably graduate at the head of the >>class! tc: >Um, please don't drag me into your childish discussions. me neither. >See you in class, >- -tc me too. - -rUss ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1999 09:41:30 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: RE: Cornwall On 12/3/99 6:26 AM, Thomas, Ferris wrote: >Lies! All of it! It's a sleepy town here in Connecticut! He speaks the truth! It is famous for having one of the few remaining covered bridges in the northeast. You can trust me, I smoked a joint there once. - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Dec 1999 10:58:59 -0700 From: Plpalmer@ix.netcom.com Subject: Tape Trader Ring Update Apparently, there was a lot of taping going on out there this tour. I know of an existing copy of every show except Cincinnati, OH Top Cats. From what I here the Atlanta show is incomplete and the levels on the Austin shows were set a bit too high. So, if anyone has those shows please get in touch. Here is a list of formats the shows were recorded in. If anyone has or knows of a possible better copy of show feel free to chime in with that information also. NO KNOWN RECORDING November 9th Cincinnati, OH Top Cats ANALOG AUDIENCE October 23rd Austin, TX Cactus Cafe October 23rd Austin, TX Cactus Cafe October 24th Austin, TX Cactus Cafe October 25th Atlanta, GA Echo Lounge October 26th Carrboro, NC Cat’s Cradle November 5th Pittsburgh, PA Rosebud November 10th Chicago, IL Metro November 11th Minneapolis, MN First Avenue November 13th Denver, CO Bluebird Theater November 16th Seattle, WA Crocodile Cafe November 17th Portland, OR Aladdin Theater November 19th San Francisco, CA G.A.M.H. MINIDISC AUDIENCE August 22nd Cleveland MABD September 21st Wavendon The Stables September 22nd Camden, London Dingwalls September 24th Winchester Arts Centre September 29th Oxford, UK The Zodiac September 26th Birmingham, UK Ronnie Scott’s October 30th Boston, MA Paradise October 31st Northhampton,Mass Iron Horse November 6th Ferndale, MI Magic Bag DAT AUDIENCE November 20th Los Angeles, CA Troubadour DAT SOUNDBOARD October 27th Baltimore, MD Fletcher’s October 29th Philadelpia, PA Upstage November 1st New York, NY Bowery Ballroom November 2nd Hoboken, NJ Maxwell’s(I think this is a soundboard) November 22nd Los Angeles, CA The Mint Peter ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Dec 1999 14:12:13 -0500 From: Ken Ostrander Subject: INTERNET LEGISLATION > CNN has reported that within the next two weeks > Congress is going to > vote on allowing telephone companies to CHARGE A > TOLL FEE for Internet > access. > > Translation: Every time we send a long distance > e-mail we will receive > a long distance charge. This will get costly. Please > visit the following > web > site and file a complaint to your Congressperson. > We can't allow this > to > pass! > The following address will allow you to send an > e-mail on this subject > DIRECTLY to > your Congressperson. http://www.house.gov/writerep > > Pass this on to your friends. It is urgent! I hope > all of you will pass > this > on > to all your friends and family. We should ALL have > an interest in this > one. > WAIT, THERE'S MORE! IN ADDITION, The last few months > have revealed an > alarming > trend in the Government of the United States > attempting to quietly push > through legislation that will affect your use of the > Internet. Under > proposed > legislation the U.S. Postal Service will be > attempting to bilk email > users out of "alternate postage fees". Bill 602P > will permit the > Federal > Govt. > to charge a 5 cent surcharge on every email > delivered, by billing > Internet > Service Providers at source. The consumer would then > be billed in turn > by > the > ISP. > Washington D.C. lawyer Richard Stepp is working > without pay to prevent > this > legislation from becoming law. The U.S. Postal > Service is claiming that > lost revenue due to the proliferation of e-mail > costing nearly > $230,000,000 > in revenue per year.You may have noticed their > recent ad campaign "There is nothing like a letter". > Since the average > citizen > received about 10 pieces of email per day in 1998, > the cost to the > typical > individual would be an additional 50 cents per day, > or over $180 dollars > per > year, > above and beyond their regular Internet costs. Note > that this would be > money > paid directly to the U.S. Postal Service for a > service they do not even > provide. > > The whole point of the Internet is democracy and > non-interference. If > the federal government is permitted to tamper with > our liberties by > adding > a surcharge to email, who knows where it will end. > You are already > paying > an exorbitant price for snail mail because of > bureaucratic inefficiency. > It currently takes up to 6 days for a letter to be > delivered from New > York to Buffalo. If the U.S. Postal Service is > allowed to tinker with > email, > it > will mark the end of the "free" Internet in the > United States. > > One congressman, Tony Schnell (r) has even suggested > a "twenty to forty > dollar per month surcharge on all Internet service" > above and beyond the > government's proposed email charges". Note that most > of the major > newspapers > have > ignored the story, the only exception being the > Washingtonian which > called > the idea of > email surcharge "a useful concept whose time has > come" (March 6th, 1999 > Editorial). > > Don't sit by and watch your freedoms erode away! > Send this e-mail to > EVERYONE on your list, and tell all your friends and > relatives to write > to > their Congressman > and say "No!" to Bill 602P. It will only take a few > moments of your > time, > and > could very well be instrumental in killing a bill we > don't want. > > PASS THIS ON TO EVERYONE YOU KNOW WHO USES EMAIL. > REMEMBER THESE ARE TWO > SEPARATE ISSUES THAT EFFECT ALL OF US ONLINE LET > YOUR VOICE BE HEARD > NOW, > NOT AFTER. > > > ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V8 #452 *******************************