From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V8 #429 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Tuesday, November 16 1999 Volume 08 : Number 429 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Way, way off topic. Dirt wanted on "pay to surf" deal [ultraconformi] peter hook with have his revenge upon monaco in autumn [Jeff Dwarf ] Re: Way, way off topic. Dirt wanted on "pay to surf" deal [Joel Mullins ] using our special korn powers [Jeff Dwarf ] Re: home again, home again, jiggity-jig [ultraconformist@ets.cncdsl.com] Re: using our special korn powers [ultraconformist@ets.cncdsl.com] reminder: Uz Jsme Doma [Christopher Gross ] Re: The Apples in Sony AND MORE (incidental robyn content) [Ken Ostrander] Re: Way, way off topic. Dirt wanted on "pay to surf" deal [normal@grove.] eb is the world ["Anal Oil Leakage" ] hmmmmmmmm... [Bayard ] Re: Ryko double SB compilation -- still on catalogue? [MARKEEFE@aol.com] Robyn on KUSF this Friday [Chris Franz ] Re: Robyn on KUSF this Friday ["Chris!" ] Victorian Charms, Victorian Fegs [Adam.Leonard@icl.com] "It's the freakiest show." [Joel Mullins ] more Bowie [Joel Mullins ] Mick 'Fuckin'' Green' (gotta get those inverted commas right) ["jbranscom] Kimberley Fuckin' Rew ["jbranscombe@compuserve.com" examines the phenomenon at arm's length? I figure >it's got to be an email mining or cookie mining >business if it's not an out-and-out fraud. Many of them are marketing deals where they collect demographic information- they gather information on age, earnings, tastes, &c., and the person's reaction to various ads. It's a bit like those paid "focus group" things. If that doesn't bother your neighbor s/he should just be wary of who's getting the information and what they want it for, and have a good search through the news groups news.admin.net-abuse.email and news.admin.net-abuse.usenet for which ones are more legit than others. I do also know that with some of them, once you sign on, you've basically signed up for several spams a day, for life. Even if you can manage to get off of -their- list, dog knows who they've sold it to. Love on ya, Susan ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 13:14:21 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: peter hook with have his revenge upon monaco in autumn "Andrew D. Simchik" wrote: >>From: Jeff Dwarf >>i'd mention steve severin or peter hook, but then eb would >>make fun of me. >That would be awfully silly of him. Peter Hook may be a total >knobbo in his Revenge guise, not to mention the electronic wannabeness of monaco... >and I wouldn't know how he stacks >up technically but for influence obviously you can't beat what >he did with Joy Division and New Order. well, a lot of times the most interesting music comes from the technically inept. primus gets on my nerves after about, say, 4-5 songs, but you can't deny what les claypool is pretty interesting and takes bass where few, if any, have trodd before. and peter hook certainly does that. hell, the biggest problem with the last new order album was that, save a couple songs, you couldn't tell peter hook was the bass player. it might has well have been some generic stephen hague hack job. oh wait, it was. >But I did see the Autumns last night in Toronto >and they were -- if way too loud -- on fire. They fuck the >ass off the Cocteau Twins' "Garlands" i don't know if this phrase makes me want to buy one of their albums or buy some theraputic ointments... >with Simon Raymonde's full endorsement, not to say production) i'd assume simon's a better producer outside the CT fold than robin is (sadly)... >and have another fabulous dream-rock album coming out in >February. np: nirvana _in utuero_; and yes, it's on frances farmer.... ===== "America's greatest natural resource, still, to this day, is the moron" --Martin Mull __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 13:17:39 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: RONNIE LOTT!!!!!!! Eb wrote: >Speaking of commercials, answer me this stupid question: > >OK, there's this Nike/"Just do it" commercial which shows a >buncha icky people with scars, sharkbites, missing teeth, >bloody blisters, etc. Know which one I'm talking about? But >about two-thirds through the commercial, there's an incongruous >shot of a handsome black guy with his head resting on his >hand...who IS that? He's some athlete, right...? the guy missing part of his pinky? it's ronnie lott. or, as he's more properly know up north RONNIE LOTT!!!!! lost the pinky so he could play in the NFC championship game the following week; with rest they may had been able to save it. you probably missed the finger because you were trying to figure out who it was. ===== "America's greatest natural resource, still, to this day, is the moron" --Martin Mull __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 15:16:53 -0800 From: Joel Mullins Subject: Re: Way, way off topic. Dirt wanted on "pay to surf" deal overbury@cn.ca wrote: > Can anyone point me to an information source that > examines the phenomenon at arm's length? I figure > it's got to be an email mining or cookie mining > business if it's not an out-and-out fraud. I'd be interested in hearing about this too. I have a friend who signed up for this shit, but I've just assumed it's a fraud. Joel ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 13:29:32 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: using our special korn powers Ken Ostrander wrote: > ppps. did anyone else think the "chinpokomon" episode of > south park last week was a spot on indictment of that > similarly named phenomenon or at least really funny? and of american paranoia about all these japanese. and of the american obsession with penis size. but i also thought it was one of the weakest episodes ever; as dead on as it was shooting it's targets, and taking names, it just felt hollow. however, i did not run to the internet to declare it the worst episode ever, even after poochie appeared. but i was disappointed, especially after the halloween episode. the spelling bee one was all right, but not great. ===== "America's greatest natural resource, still, to this day, is the moron" --Martin Mull __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 15:36:36 -0600 From: ultraconformist@ets.cncdsl.com Subject: Re: home again, home again, jiggity-jig >Directly following my anatomy lab practical, last Wed., where I spent an hour >naming various cat muscles with little flags sticking out of them (I claim >thee in the name of Trapezius!), NOW I know one reason why you wanted to find out people's reasons for being vegetarian. Maybe you mentioned it at some point and I was just spectacularly inattentive. This has been known to happen. I managed to miss that Fpaux was you until just now, anyway :). >restaurant to meet our lovely hostess Susan. At the table were Jay, Dolph and >Rebecca. They tried to make us feel better by telling us that Dolph and >Rebecca had just arrived, too. *ROTFL* In a spectacular bit of weirdness, Jay, who rarely makes it to a feg event, was the only person who made it to this one on time. Or, relatively. He apologized to me for being five-ten minutes late. At least when he got there, we could look anxiously at watches -together-. Upon my remarking that the people in the restaurant must have been wondering if I was nutty and had booked the table for my imaginary friends, Jay said "oh yeah, like Leppo". And then we were off. We decided the Jooves were not invited. Dennis had a chair tho, as did the Devil and IIRC, Graham who never gets to dance. Love on ya, Susan ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 15:51:21 -0600 From: ultraconformist@ets.cncdsl.com Subject: Re: using our special korn powers >especially after the halloween episode. the spelling bee one was >all right, but not great. It was ok, but not nearly as funny as the "Pulp Comics" Scott Thompson special that preceded it. That was one of the funnier things I've seen on the tee-vee in quite some time. Oddest thing about watching that back to back with "South Park"- his act really is pretty edgy in a way that the "South Park" episode was not. Try to imagine a flaming gay Lenny Bruce. This was thought-provoking humor, as opposed to the "South Park" episode, where the laughs were pretty much about kidstuff. Love on ya, Susan ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 17:27:20 -0500 (EST) From: Christopher Gross Subject: reminder: Uz Jsme Doma Just wanted to remind you all that the great Czech band Uz Jsme Doma, which I've mentioned here once or twice, will be playing the Black Cat in Washington DC on Wednesday, Nov. 17. In fact, here is there entire remaining tour schedule (sorry I don't have the venue names): Nov. 15 (tonight!) - Atlanta Nov. 16 - Chapel Hill Nov. 17 - Washington Nov. 18 - Cambridge Nov. 19 - Philadelphia Nov. 20 - New York Oh, and here's a mini-review from the Washington Post's website: "Uz Jsme Doma is somewhere between heaven and hell. The bizarre amalgam of Residents-influenced avant-garde punk; horn-fueled chaos; frenzied vocals; and tense, twisted theatrics make for one paranoid listening experience. If the voices in your head decided to start a band, it would be Uz Jsme Doma (pronounced "oozh smeh dough-ma"). This Czech quintet is touring the States in support of its latest record, "Ears," the band's first studio effort in four years." from UJD has never made me feel paranoid, personally, but you all can just come out and judge for yourselves. There are also two opening acts, Drums & Tubas and the Comedians; my spies tell me that Drums & Tubas, at least, are quite good. Remember, it's at the Black Cat, 1831 14th St. NW in Washington DC, and tickets are a paltry $8 at the door. I hope to see lots of you there! - --Chris ______________________________________________________________________ Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 17:08:49 -0500 From: Ken Ostrander Subject: Re: The Apples in Sony AND MORE (incidental robyn content) >Hey, I just saw a commercial for Sony Vega TVs with The Apples in >Stereo's Strawberryfire in it. It's pretty surprising to hear an E6 >song on television. no kidding. i saw a commercial for some shampoo with andie macdowell (!) with air's 'femme d'argent'. she wasn't wearing a towel. >>i'd mention steve severin or peter hook, but then eb would make >>fun of me. > >That would be awfully silly of him. Peter Hook may be a total knobbo >in his Revenge guise, and I wouldn't know how he stacks up technically >but for influence obviously you can't beat what he did with Joy Division >and New Order. i recently bought the 'music for pleasure' album by monaco. when you hear it you think it's new order; but sometimes it sounds like oasis. then there's the latest electronic album; which sounds more like new order than their previous stuff. i like it a lot. i hear that peter, bernard and co are back in the studio actually making a new new order album. hope it doesn't suck because they put out these cool albums and used up their inspiration or whatever it is they use. >--i finally know what "tarmaced him down to the hennepin" means! (from LIVE >DEATH Clean Steve.) "hennepin" is an avenue in minneapolis, quite close to >the venue. okay, i guess i still don't know precisely what it's supposed to >*mean*, but at least i now know from whence it derives. as in '9th and hennepin'? >Has anyone heard of a Boston band called Guster? I heard a couple of >songs by them last night that sounding pretty cool. One song in >particular caught my attention. Anyway, I was wondering if any of you >guys listened to them and knew anything about them. acoustic trio. kind of remind me of those bare naked ladies. > PPS: I have heard that the original Country Life girls were nude, and > that the cover we all know and love has been air-brush bowdlerized. > Is that true? no such luck. my ancient album cover has just a bunch of cheeba-looking leaves and no ladies; but i think recent printings have the original cover: http://allmusic.com/cg/x.dll?UID=4:23:06|PM&p=amg&sql=A17011 ken "get the butter" the kenster np. beck mutations getting psyched up for next week! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 17:36:00 -0500 (EST) From: normal@grove.ufl.edu Subject: Re: Way, way off topic. Dirt wanted on "pay to surf" deal On Mon, 15 Nov 1999 overbury@cn.ca wrote: > A neighbour is convinced this is legit, and I smell > scam. I did a bit of looking with web search engines > and dejanews, but since the web's full of people trying > to sell others on this (b/c it's a multi-level, suck- > em-in-and-we-pay-you-more deal) I can't cut through > the BS to find an expose. > > Can anyone point me to an information source that > examines the phenomenon at arm's length? I figure > it's got to be an email mining or cookie mining > business if it's not an out-and-out fraud. It looks legit. If it isn't, the folks running it are going through an awful lot of trouble. (Assuming you're talking about things like alladvantage.com and other paid-to-look-at-a-little-banner-while-you-surf things). They undoubtedly make money from all the folk who quit before they earn the minimum payout, but they really can't make that much money from selling addresses or what-have-you. They seem to have been paying out so far. Terrence Marks Unlike Minerva (a comic strip) http://www.unlikeminerva.com normal@grove.ufl.edu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 16:04:31 PST From: "Anal Oil Leakage" Subject: eb is the world 11/13/99, The Soiled Dove, Denver [soundcheck] Passing Souls [?] Teddy Bears' Picnic Alright, Yeah Madonna Of The Wasps Mexican God The Devil's Coachman Serpent At The Gates Of Wisdom You've Got A Sweet Mouth On You, Baby Queen Elvis I Saw Nick Drake Sinister But She Was Happy Jewels For Sophia Madonna Of The Wasps Queen Of Eyes Antwoman America Sleeping With Your Devil Mask Oceanside I Often Dream Of Trains You And Oblivion Birds In Perspex Beautiful Queen Swirling Swirling [reprise] Gene Hackman Elizabeth Jade - --Passing Souls (if indeed that be the title) was either a cover (though neither hal nor i recognised it), or a brand spankin' new one. - --Teddy Bears' Picnic (is this the correct title and spelling?) was kimberley a capella, but only a few lines. still pretty fun, though. woj, i notice you spelled it Philosopher's Stone, with the apostrophe. the cheat sheet definitely has it without, though if it was printed up by mr. greenberger, you never know. that guy is a typo machine. anyway, i think The Philosophers Stone makes more sense, given the surrounding lyrics. that is, "stone" is a verb (though surely metaphorical). when i'd first heard it, in pittsburgh, i'd though it was The Philosopher's Stoned. well, as i mentioned, paul ripped the prick management new shitters. wished i'd seen it. said if i'd returned, i would've been allowed to tape. so if they came in after me, that surely helps explain it. but, yes... not quite that. but as i've mentioned before, i'm quite open about taping, *especially* when the artist approves. so, when they asked what was in the bag, i told them. i pleaded the case with them, to no avail. assholes. looked like there were so few of them on hand, that it would've been very easy to have stealthed it. say, loronzo: could you *pretty please* put me in touch with the tapers, if you've the means? okay, just rocky. you know, that hat rocky wears? tim was wearing the same thing. or have i got my cartoons mixed up again? funny thing about that is that not once during the entire movie did donny who loved bowling actually wear a shirt with his actual name on it. they had every other name under the sun, but not donny. hm, sounds a lot like Life Of Brian. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 19:34:15 -0500 (EST) From: Bayard Subject: hmmmmmmmm... The Oracle says: gene hackman has an andie macdowell number of 2. Gene Hackman was in Full Moon in Blue Water (1988) with Becky Ann Baker Becky Ann Baker was in Unstrung Heroes (1995) with Andie MacDowell and check THIS: The Oracle says: gene hackman has a robyn hitchcock number of 3. Gene Hackman was in Wyatt Earp (1994) with Jeff Fahey Jeff Fahey was in Extra-Marital (1997) with Tim Keegan Tim Keegan was in Storefront Hitchcock (1998) with Robyn Hitchcock apologies if this has already been posted! http://www.cs.virginia.edu/oracle/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 19:36:23 EST From: MARKEEFE@aol.com Subject: Re: Ryko double SB compilation -- still on catalogue? In a message dated 11/15/99 9:36:45 AM Pacific Standard Time, overbury@cn.ca writes: << Well, is it? Look ma, I'm on topic! >> There are currently zero Soft Boys CDs in print in the U.S. - ------Michael K. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 19:13:53 -0800 From: Chris Franz Subject: Robyn on KUSF this Friday The following is from a KUSF announcement mailing list. I'm assuming that the date is a typo -- it would have been some trick for him to pop into USF last week. I'll try to verify it with the station, however. > 3) GUEST DJ -- Every Friday between 2:30-3:30 (give or take an hour...) we > invite a local or visiting artist to plant it in the DJ booth and share > musical influences, inspirations, secret weapons, long-standing favorites, > and current obsessions with us. A reminder that while all KUSF DJ's are > admittedly frustrated rock stars, all rock stars are themselves in fact > frustrated KUSF DJ's. > > Friday, 11/12/99 -- 2:30-3:30 -- ROBYN HITCHCOCK -- The girl who gives me > coffee every morning didn't know who ROBYN HITCHOCK...OR the SOFT BOYS were. > Friday will be a good day to find out, unless you already know, in which case > you also already know it'll be a treat. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 20:33:30 -0800 From: "Chris!" Subject: Re: Robyn on KUSF this Friday It is worth noting the KUSF webcasts from www.kusf.org. So, all the peoples can hear, if they don't forget and still care by Friday. .chris Chris Franz wrote: > > The following is from a KUSF announcement mailing list. I'm assuming that the date > is a typo -- it would have been some trick for him to pop into USF last week. I'll > try to verify it with the station, however. > > > 3) GUEST DJ -- Every Friday between 2:30-3:30 (give or take an hour...) we > > invite a local or visiting artist to plant it in the DJ booth and share > > musical influences, inspirations, secret weapons, long-standing favorites, > > and current obsessions with us. A reminder that while all KUSF DJ's are > > admittedly frustrated rock stars, all rock stars are themselves in fact > > frustrated KUSF DJ's. > > > > Friday, 11/12/99 -- 2:30-3:30 -- ROBYN HITCHCOCK -- The girl who gives me > > coffee every morning didn't know who ROBYN HITCHOCK...OR the SOFT BOYS were. > > Friday will be a good day to find out, unless you already know, in which case > > you also already know it'll be a treat. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 12:19:50 -0000 From: Adam.Leonard@icl.com Subject: Victorian Charms, Victorian Fegs JH3 wrote of The Auteurs; "Drew is going to think that I'm trying to exert some sort of weird control thing over his CD-buying habits, but I feel like I have to chime in here to say that IMO "Now I'm a Cowboy" is their best album, by far, and what's more you can probably find it in a used bin somewhere. Whereas "Bootboys" is only available as a pricey new import, and to me at least, it's Luke's least awesome effort yet (though it's still fairly awesome; I just think the production is terrible). After "Now I'm a Cowboy" I'd pick up "New Wave" and "After Murder Park," in that order." No, no, no "...Cowboy" is by far their worst record (though it's still fairly awesome; I just think the production is terrible. "Life Classes/Life Model" is pretty good though). Drew mate - stick to my original recommendations, get "Bootboys" or the Baader Meinhof album (or any other Auteurs album, but don't get "...Cowboy"). "Back On The Farm" from the Baader Menihof album is one of the most chilling tracks ever committed to vinyl... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 12:01:17 -0800 From: Joel Mullins Subject: "It's the freakiest show." Just in case some of you were not aware of this, Virgin Records has reissued David Bowie's catalogue. I'm not sure exactly when they did this, but it must've been pretty recently. Anyway, all the old albums are finally available again. I've been trying to get Hunky Dory for what seems like forever, and I finally got it this past weekend. It was definitely worth the wait. Man, what a kick ass album. I had been previously listening to JfS pretty much non-stop (I finally got really turned on to the album; I think it took this long for ME too), but now Hunky Dory has been the album of choice. Anyway, those of you who don't have HD or Ziggy or Aladdin Sane can now go buy and enjoy. Later Joel ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 12:04:27 -0800 From: Joel Mullins Subject: more Bowie And many of you will be happy to hear that the Virgin reissues do not have any bonus tracks. Joel ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 14:44:24 -0500 From: "jbranscombe@compuserve.com" Subject: Mick 'Fuckin'' Green' (gotta get those inverted commas right) Ana mentioned the Great Greeny. Her SO muttering that he thought he was dead. Well he did have some serious heart surgery a while back, but now seems to be getting something of a second wind - playing with Van Morrison as well as Macca recently. I saw the reformed Pirates at a gig a few weeks ago (they swore it was a one-off but I'm not so sure) and they still rocked like mothers. I swear Mick Green is the best live guitarist I've ever seen, apart perhaps for Link Wray. jmbc ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 16:50:28 -0500 From: "jbranscombe@compuserve.com" Subject: Kimberley Fuckin' Rew When mentioning Mick Green and Link Wray as my two favourite live guitarists I forgot the third. Guess Whew... jmbc. ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V8 #429 *******************************