From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V8 #402 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Thursday, October 28 1999 Volume 08 : Number 402 Today's Subjects: ----------------- baltimore robyn show ["Melissa ..." ] angry white guy fegmaniax posts ["Andrew D. Simchik" ] half 22 ["Capitalism Blows" ] A NEW lyrics question [Aaron Lowe ] Re: A NEW lyrics question [Glen Uber ] Re: A NEW lyrics question (and the 10/27 RH show) [Christopher Gross ] a lyrical question [dmw ] Re: A NEW lyrics question [overbury@cn.ca] Re: Scales & Quails [Michael R Godwin ] Re: A NEW lyrics question [mrrunion@palmnet.net] Re: A NEW lyrics question [ultraconformist@ets.cncdsl.com] Re: A NEW lyrics question ["JH3" ] (Fwd) Re: A NEW lyrics question [overbury@cn.ca] now I have a lyric question [lj lindhurst ] Hitch vs. Rich [Jeffrey_Rose@eri.eisai.com] Re: now I have a lyric question [Tom Clark ] 30 MilliHelens agree [Vivien Lyon ] Re: Hitch vs. Rich [Tom Clark ] Fegs You'd Like to See Naked [Eb ] Re: 30 MilliHelens agree [Tom Clark ] Re: A NEW lyrics question [Ken Ostrander ] Re: now I have a lyric question [Jeff Dwarf ] all our fingers and toes [dmw ] reviews of carrboro and dc shows wanted! [John Barrington Jones ] Re: A NEW lyrics question [Joel Mullins ] Re: now I have a lyric question [Joel Mullins ] Re: all our fingers and toes [Joel Mullins ] The Walken Dead [The Great Quail ] gnat weighs the scales [Natalie Jacobs ] Re: Sculder Are Squared [Eric Loehr ] Re: The Walken Dead [Eb ] speaking of musicians whom *some* people want to see naked [Eb ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 16:47:36 GMT From: "Melissa ..." Subject: baltimore robyn show Sorry to have missed the opportunity to meet dc area fegs at the show. What was the slst song? It shounded vaguely familiar. melissa ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 10:00:44 -0700 (PDT) From: "Andrew D. Simchik" Subject: angry white guy fegmaniax posts Lies! Propaganda! Turn around! Do not read this digest! Exit the room immediately! La la la...I'm singing, I can't hear you...la la la la... > From: Jeff Dwarf > meat "i'm a sexier female than tori amos"* loaf? Uh, yeah. He's *kinda* cute but not *that* cute. Sorry, Meat. > From: Capuchin > That's why I won't tell that I personally rank LJ at > about 4.0 > Lovelaces. Ewwwwwwwwwwww! I rank Linda Lovelace at about 2.0 Meatloaves. From what little I've seen I think LJ would be likely to blow the lid off the Meatloaf scale. > From: The Great Quail > Eeeek! Boy George, anti-Tories! Anti-Tories! You are *all* officially nuts. Boy George is adorable. > From: Ethyl Ketone > Nick cave naked? For some reason, while I'm a > very big Nick Cave > fan, I find this prospect frightening... Birthday-Party-era Nick Cave is at least 4.8 Toris on my obviously increasingly idiosyncratic scale. Present-day Nick Cave is down there with Linda freakin' Lovelace. Did I really just write a whole post about the sexiness or lack thereof of celebrities? Kill me now: you may not get another chance. Drew ===== Andrew D. Simchik, schnopia@yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 10:14:23 PDT From: "Capitalism Blows" Subject: half 22 okay, i've only been sort of skimming the digests, so forgive if this has already been "posited" and found wanting. but i always figured half 22 was the address, somehow. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 12:27:20 -0500 From: Aaron Lowe Subject: A NEW lyrics question Oh, Elizabeth Jade, You shake me up like *pre-war*(?!) lemonade. Any ideas? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 10:51:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Glen Uber Subject: Re: A NEW lyrics question On Thu, 28 Oct 1999, Aaron Lowe wrote: >Oh, Elizabeth Jade, >You shake me up like *pre-war*(?!) lemonade. >Any ideas? I think it's "pre-formed" as in that packaged lemonade such as Country Time or Kool-Aid. Cheers! - -g- "When it comes to beer, we Americans drink Barry Manilow while the rest of the world drinks Ray Charles." --source unknown +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Glen Uber uberg@sonic.net http://www.sonic.net/~uberg ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 14:00:10 -0400 (EDT) From: Christopher Gross Subject: Re: A NEW lyrics question (and the 10/27 RH show) On Thu, 28 Oct 1999, Aaron Lowe wrote: > Oh, Elizabeth Jade, > You shake me up like *pre-war*(?!) lemonade. > > Any ideas? Maybe before the war lemonade wasn't as homogenized as it is now, so a bottle of lemonade would have to be shaken with extreme vigor between sips to keep all the lemon pulp from settling at the bottom. That's my theory. Robyn's show last night was great! This was the first time I saw Robyn with a full band, and it was like a whole new, wonderful, deafening world of Robyn for me. A lot of my favorite DC Fegs were there, and I got to meet Eddie "Cartman" Tews for the first time. There was also a guy who looked a lot like Woj, but wasn't. Unfortunately, I didn't think to bring my camera. Not only was it a good Feg photo opportunity, but the sign outside of Fletcher's truly deserved to be immortalized: WED: ROBYN HITCHCOCK THU: AGNOSTIC FRONT 1/2 PRICE CHIK SANDWICH Melissa, sorry we missed you. We were the group lined up right in front of the stage, if you're wondering what we look like.... IIRC, the first song was "Mexican God." If it sounded familiar, you probably recognize it from _Jewels for Sophia_. Does anyone have the full setlist? - --Chris, 4.3/4.8 on the Wally-from-Dilbert/Beaker-from-the-Muppets scale ______________________________________________________________________ Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 13:05:30 -0500 From: Aaron Lowe Subject: Re: A NEW lyrics question At 12:51 PM 10/28/99 , you wrote: >On Thu, 28 Oct 1999, Aaron Lowe wrote: > > >Oh, Elizabeth Jade, > >You shake me up like *pre-war*(?!) lemonade. > >Any ideas? > >I think it's "pre-formed" as in that packaged lemonade such as Country >Time or Kool-Aid. > >Cheers! >-g- Until recently, I only had a promo copy of JfS that I bought about a month before the CD came out via the Evil eBay. Last weekend, I finally went out and bought the "real" release, and I was amazed and pleased to see that the lyrics were printed in the CD booklet. I immediately looked up a few problem passages I wasn't sure about, and, for the most part, everything was cleared up nicely, with the exception of "pre-war lemonade." I just thought, no *wonder* I never figured that one out -- that just plain doesn't make any sense. But the printed lyrics do say "pre-war," and now that I know that, I guess I can hear him singing that. I guess I'm interested in figuring out what he could have meant when he wrote this lyric partly because I've been singing this song to myself for months now, always wondering what he was singing, and now I found out, and it still doesn't make any sense. ? Aaron ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 14:13:51 -0400 (EDT) From: dmw Subject: a lyrical question On Thu, 28 Oct 1999, Christopher Gross wrote: > Robyn's show last night was great! This was the first time I saw Robyn > with a full band, and it was like a whole new, wonderful, deafening world > of Robyn for me. A lot of my favorite DC Fegs were there, and I got to i think this was maybe the 2nd or 3rd best rhitch show i've seen this decade. i saw the egyptians a time or two, and i think departure lounge was a more sympathetic backing band for robyn (esepcially with the delightfully squally mr. rew in attendance) than the late model egyptians shows that i saw. one quibble: when he plugged in the pretty sky-blue tele, robyn "bleedin'-ears" hitchcock's stage volume quite o'erpowered poor massa kimberly on the other side of the stage, at least, for those of us situated directly in front of robyn rowan's mighty fender. but, christ, properly played, "oceanside" isn't deadly dull! who knew? and why is mr. the hitchcock always so much better north of dc than in it, after november of 1990? odd. > meet Eddie "Cartman" Tews for the first time. There was also a guy who indeed a distinct, if all too brief, pleasure. i'm sorry my ride evaporated so soon after the set, and precluded more hangin' out. > outside of Fletcher's truly deserved to be immortalized: > > WED: ROBYN HITCHCOCK > THU: AGNOSTIC FRONT > 1/2 PRICE CHIK SANDWICH indeed. a good thing you've immortalized it in the annals of fegdom. > from _Jewels for Sophia_. Does anyone have the full setlist? perhaps more to the point, c'n i get a tape???? - -- d. n.p. flashpapr _do what you must do_ (is that a table saw?! by jove i think it is! no, perhaps it was only a guitar after all) - - oh no, you've just read mail from doug = dmw@radix.net - get yr pathos - - www.pathetic-caverns.com -- books, flicks, tunes, etc. = reviews - - www.fecklessbeast.com -- angst, guilt, fear, betrayal! = guitar pop ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 14:26:01 -0400 From: overbury@cn.ca Subject: Re: A NEW lyrics question > "When it comes to beer, we Americans drink Barry Manilow while the rest of > the world drinks Ray Charles." --source unknown I think it may have been Michael Jackson -- *The* Michael Jackson, circus freak. - -- Ross Overbury Montreal, Quebec, Canada ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 16:51:39 +0100 (BST) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: Scales & Quails I don't really like these scales with decimal points. I'll stick to the old MilliHelen rating: 1 MH = a face that will launch 1 ship. - - Mike Godwin n.p. Charles Trenet 'La Mer' ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 13:40 +0000 From: mrrunion@palmnet.net Subject: Re: A NEW lyrics question >At 12:51 PM 10/28/99 , you wrote: >>On Thu, 28 Oct 1999, Aaron Lowe wrote: >> >> >Oh, Elizabeth Jade, >> >You shake me up like *pre-war*(?!) lemonade. >> >Any ideas? At the Carrboro show, Robyn rambled on about all sorts of drinks that no longer exist...things like ginger-beer, etc., and how the bottles, basically trash, now show up as art, or artifacts to be worshipped, or something like that. Anyway, I thought of this lyric while he was saying all this, so I think the idea of old-style lemonade that had to be shaken vigorously is probably the correct interpretation. Back to it, Mike (very glad to be home, but sorta still wishing he was on the road) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 13:50:03 -0600 From: ultraconformist@ets.cncdsl.com Subject: Re: A NEW lyrics question >> "When it comes to beer, we Americans drink Barry Manilow while the rest of >> the world drinks Ray Charles." --source unknown > >I think it may have been Michael Jackson -- *The* Michael Jackson, circus >freak. Didn't he also say something about light beer being as much of a taste abomination and general absurdity as "diet french fries"? I'm something of a beer person but I don't think Amstel Light tastes so awful bad. It's a damn sight better than some non-light beers I've had, actually. I'd definitely rate it higher than say, Rolling Rock, on the taste scale. Mostly because it -has- a taste. Hops, use the hops, Luke! Fer that matter I like it a lot better than many German (or German-style) beers I've had, which generally speaking I do not like very much. *shrug* Tastebuds vary. Love on ya, Susan ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 13:54:02 -0500 From: "JH3" Subject: Re: A NEW lyrics question Aaron "same last name as Nick" Lowe writes: >...the printed lyrics do say "pre-war," and now that I know that, >I guess I can hear him singing that. I guess I'm interested in >figuring out what he could have meant when he wrote this >lyric partly because I've been singing this song to myself for >months now, always wondering what he was singing, and >now I found out, and it still doesn't make any sense. Oh, c'mon, it makes perfect sense! You just have to know what war he's referring to. As people living in the 20th Century, our usual assumption is that it's Second World War, but of course, that would be incorrect: In fact, he's referring to the Second *Punic* War between Rome and Carthage, which took place during the late 3rd century BC. There were hardly any lemons whatsoever in Europe before the Romans took over the lemon- growing areas of North Africa, and what few lemons they had were treated as a precious natural resource, used only for such vital uses as furniture polish or scones or things like that. Nobody (including the Carthaginians, for religious reasons) would have *dreamed* of making lemons into a non-essential drink like lemonade before then, so if you *had* been given a glass (well, actually, a *grail*) of lemonade prior to, say, 200 B.C., you would have been pretty shaken up, believe me. *Shocked* is more like it. That isn't to say it wouldn't have been highly refreshing, not to mention vastly preferable to the Romans' staple non-alcoholic sports drink of the pre-war era: "olive-aid." I hope that clears things up slightly. John "I really have no idea what 'half-22' means" Hedges ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 15:10:26 -0400 From: overbury@cn.ca Subject: (Fwd) Re: A NEW lyrics question I said: >I think it may have been Michael Jackson -- *The* Michael Jackson, circus >freak. and of course I meant to say: I think it may have been Michael Jackson -- *The* Michael Jackson, not the circus freak. - -- Ross Overbury Montreal, Quebec, Canada - -- Ross Overbury Montreal, Quebec, Canada ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 15:22:32 -0400 From: lj lindhurst Subject: now I have a lyric question In the Beatles' "Paperback Writer", to whom are they referring in the line: "It's based on a novel by a man named Lear" ? * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * LJ Lindhurst White Rabbit Graphic Design http://www.w-rabbit.com NYC ljl@w-rabbit.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ------------------------------ Date: 28 Oct 1999 15:34:17 -0400 From: Jeffrey_Rose@eri.eisai.com Subject: Hitch vs. Rich I disagree with the Sound & Vision review of the new Richard Thompson record. I thought RT had fallen into a rut with "You, Me, Us?" and his recent boring "thematic" collaboration with Danny Thompson but "Mock Tudor" is a welcome return to the form of "Amnesia" and "Rumor & Sigh". I saw him at the Boston Guinness Fleadh and the new material was really powerful. This time out, he actually wrote some memorable HOOKS to go along with his heady lyrics and brilliantly warped guitar licks. I COMPLETELY agree with S&Vs review of Jewel's for Sophia, though. Robyn in Boston this Saturday. Is he playing without an opening act? Jeffro ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 12:32:34 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: now I have a lyric question On 10/28/99 12:22 PM, lj lindhurst wrote: >In the Beatles' "Paperback Writer", to whom are they referring in the >line: "It's based on a novel by a man named Lear" ? There's a guy on this list who's really good at knowin' stuff 'bout books n' shit. You might want to ask him. I think he's named after a bird or somethin. And why would Micheal Jackson say "we Americans" when he's English? - -tom "eaten by my own dinner" the tomster ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 12:47:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Vivien Lyon Subject: 30 MilliHelens agree - --- Michael R Godwin wrote: > I'll stick to the old MilliHelen rating: > 1 MH = a face that will launch 1 ship. My father tells this joke all the time. But he tells a lot of blonde jokes, too. Make of that what you will. Sad to say, most of the people he tells about MilliHelens don't get it. I think that's why he tells the blonde jokes, actually. Covers a bit broader demographic range. Vivien ps- A frog walks into a bank and asks for a loan. ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 12:39:43 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Hitch vs. Rich On 10/28/99 12:34 PM, Jeffrey_Rose@eri.eisai.com wrote: >I disagree with the Sound & Vision review of the new Richard Thompson >record. I thought RT had fallen into a rut with "You, Me, Us?" and his >recent boring "thematic" collaboration with Danny Thompson but "Mock >Tudor" is a welcome return to the form of "Amnesia" and "Rumor & Sigh". I >saw him at the Boston Guinness Fleadh and the new material was really >powerful. This time out, he actually wrote some memorable HOOKS to go >along with his heady lyrics and brilliantly warped guitar licks. > >I COMPLETELY agree with S&Vs review of Jewel's for Sophia, though. >Robyn in Boston this Saturday. Is he playing without an opening act? The link to the actual review is too complicated, so just hit www.soundandvisionmag.com. This is the review I promised to type in two months ago but never did. In the latest issue there's a small interview with RH where he talks about MP3 and such. I'll just say I'd like to transcribe it for the list but I doubt I will. - -tc, the king of empty promises ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 12:41:51 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Fegs You'd Like to See Naked I can't weigh in on the all-important Viv issue, sorry to say. Since I haven't even seen her *clothed*, it's near impossible for me to gauge the desirability of her nudity. However, given all the varied endorsements of her bosom (heck, even Wallace Shawn gave her a two-palms-up, and he should know -- after all, he's eye-level with 85% of the world's breasts), I am willing to grant her a complimentary 4.1 Ebs. I'm rather sick of the sight of myself, anyway. As for big ol' Rock Stars, I really can't come up with any names whose flesh I'd wish to see. Maybe Kim Shattuck, but jeez, I've already seen her bottomless onstage, so.... Meanwhile, I always assumed it was Edward Lear. That would fit in quite well with Lennon's Lewis Carroll thang, eh? Eb, still digging Snow Patrol The nightmare becomes real: http://www.ebworld.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 12:50:57 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: 30 MilliHelens agree On 10/28/99 12:47 PM, Vivien Lyon wrote: >ps- A frog walks into a bank and asks for a loan. Speaking of jokes, anybody know how the joke goes that ends with "Plunger? I hardly KNOW her!" - -tc, whose fave all time joke is the telephone one that goes something like: "You don't say..." "You don't say..." "You don't say..." "You don't say..." "Who was it?" "He didn't say." oh, and the "ant and the elephant" joke. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 14:57:05 -0500 From: Ken Ostrander Subject: Re: A NEW lyrics question >>> >Oh, Elizabeth Jade, >>> >You shake me up like *pre-war*(?!) lemonade. >>> >Any ideas? > >At the Carrboro show, Robyn rambled on about all sorts of drinks that no >longer exist...things like ginger-beer, etc., and how the bottles, >basically trash, now show up as art, or artifacts to be worshipped, or >something like that. Anyway, I thought of this lyric while he was saying >all this, so I think the idea of old-style lemonade that had to be shaken >vigorously is probably the correct interpretation. or maybe the lemonade is so old that when you drink it you shudder. by the way, ginger beer does still exist. i've been drinking dark and stormy's lately, which is dark rum mixed with ginger beer. ken "who is hoping to make it to the boston gig this saturday by slipping out of the (scary) wedding reception i'll be at earlier" the kenster np a can of bees ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 13:11:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: now I have a lyric question Tom Clark wrote: > And why would Micheal Jackson say "we Americans" when he's > English? it was the former giants/current indians relief pitcher... ===== "America's greatest natural resource, still, to this day, is the moron" --Martin Mull __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 16:30:14 -0400 (EDT) From: dmw Subject: all our fingers and toes first: jeez, i allus assumed "half twenty-two" was the street number. y'know, the place was squeezed into one of those narrower than narrow buildings, probably on the first floor, above a costume shop that no one frequented much, which might've, or mightn't've, been a front for an opium-smuggling operation. you do have *those* in britain, surely? second: i can't keeep track all of those numbers about who does or doesn't want to see whom completely or partially unclad, but i would like to point out that joel's endorsement of the thread would seem to be yet another tick in the "hey! joel's a pervert" category. i will, of course, abstain from comment on the thread itself. last: On Wed, 27 Oct 1999, Capuchin snarked: > > "I'm not a critic, though I play on on the Internet." > > We're all just embarrassed at your typo. not to mention the capital letters. guh. - -- d. beyond the pale: most of you are probably both nowhere near dc and going to costume parties that are not near dc as well, but if you find yourself in dc this saturday eve, please do come see the three swell bands we're opening for. 9th & u nw, 9pm-2am. n.r. richard powers, _the gold bug variations_ (p. 570, no eb content so far) n.p. tim keegan etc. _out of here_ - - oh no, you've just read mail from doug = dmw@radix.net - get yr pathos - - www.pathetic-caverns.com -- books, flicks, tunes, etc. = reviews - - www.fecklessbeast.com -- angst, guilt, fear, betrayal! = guitar pop ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 13:53:34 -0700 (PDT) From: John Barrington Jones Subject: reviews of carrboro and dc shows wanted! This is why you go to shows, don't you? So you can post lengthy reviews of them on this list, right? :) =jbj= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 15:58:00 -0700 From: Joel Mullins Subject: Engine engine #9 Do you guys recommend the "Holland 1945" 7"? I found a European import for $10 that comes with a poster. Is the poster cool? And is "Engine" a good song? Basically, is it worth $10? Joel ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 16:01:32 -0700 From: Joel Mullins Subject: Re: A NEW lyrics question overbury@cn.ca wrote: > > > "When it comes to beer, we Americans drink Barry Manilow while the rest of > > the world drinks Ray Charles." --source unknown > > I think it may have been Michael Jackson -- *The* Michael Jackson, circus > freak. Speaking of Michael Jackson, I saw a commercial yesterday advertising a new "Oldies" radio station that had a clip of Michael Jackson doing the moonwalk. I guess "Beat It" is now an oldie. Joel ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 16:03:41 -0700 From: Joel Mullins Subject: Re: now I have a lyric question lj lindhurst wrote: > > In the Beatles' "Paperback Writer", to whom are they referring in the > line: "It's based on a novel by a man named Lear" ? Lear. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 16:06:43 -0700 From: Joel Mullins Subject: Re: all our fingers and toes dmw wrote: > i can't keeep track all of those numbers about who does or doesn't want to > see whom completely or partially unclad, but i would like to point out > that joel's endorsement of the thread would seem to be yet another tick in > the "hey! joel's a pervert" category. i will, of course, abstain from > comment on the thread itself. Actually, I don't think I ever endorsed that thread. I have no desire to see David Bowie or evenEb naked. Joel ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 17:15:07 -0400 From: The Great Quail Subject: The Walken Dead As you know, LJ and I saw that new "James Joyce The Dead" musical, which sucked. Since I am indebted to write a review that extends beyond, "It sucks," I have finally thrown it together at posted it at: http://www.libyrinth.com/joyce/review_the_dead.html For those who care. Caution: Read it with a lot of Guinness at hand. If anyone makes it through, please send me comments for good or bad - -- this is my first theater review, even though its more of an semi-Joycean "adaptation review." So it is long and more detailed than an average review; but bear in mind it's written for my Joyce page. Now for a serious question for Eb and others: You know, since the theater itself has asked me for my review . . . um . . . ok, look, here it is: I'm afraid of Christopher Walken. Eb, Doug, and all you other critics out there -- how do you cope with negative review responses? I mean, I've only reviewed old movies, weird pieces of music, or really good books before. But man, this is Christopher Walken! And he may actually see this!!!! He'll kick my ass if I didn't like it! And they gave me press passes, you know . . . I feel weirdly indebted to write a good review, but that's something I won't do. Seriously, how do you real-time critics cope with this? Scared in Brooklyn, but having fixed the sig typo, - --quailie +---------+---------+---------+---------+---------+---------+---------+ The Great Quail, K.S.C. (riverrun Discordian Society, Kibroth-hattaavah Branch) For fun with postmodern literature, New York vampires, and Fegmania, visit Sarnath: http://www.rpg.net/quail "I'm not a critic, though I play one on the Internet." -- Doug Mayo-Wells ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 17:27:16 -0400 (EDT) From: Natalie Jacobs Subject: gnat weighs the scales > And 4.0 is pretty high, seeing as maybe the next one below Tori is > about 4.2, and that's the young Madame Curie. Madame Curie?? Wow... how, er, esoteric! Reading all of this made me want to make up my own scales. My equivalent of Bowies was difficult to choose (Partridges? Mangums? Robyns?) but ultimately, it comes down to Costellos. My equivalent of Toris would be Nicks (that's Nick Drake circa 1969), and anti-Toris (I keep wanting to write "Tories") would be Spillanes, as in the gnome-like guy from NMH. So Tori Amos would have a ranking of 1.0 Costellos, 0.2 Nicks, and 4.8 Spillanes. Jeff Mangum would have a ranking of 4.8 Costellos, 3.8 Nicks, and 1.2 Spillanes. (The Nick and Spillane rankings have to add up to 5.0.) I just wasted ten minutes of my life writing this post. I'll never have them back. Ever. n. (and someday I'll be sorry) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 17:43:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Eric Loehr Subject: Re: Sculder Are Squared On Thu, 28 Oct 1999, Jason R. Thornton wrote: > PS: Anyone see the 3 hour episode of X-Files this past Sunday? Is this another message beamed in from the recent future? Here on the east coast, the new season opener hasn't happened yet. Or was this an old one? Hmmm, three hours...maybe it's a regular 1 hour episode here ....(three hour time difference.) Eric "waitin' for those east coast RHitch reviews" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 14:42:17 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: The Walken Dead Quail stopped drooling over mental images of a Tori Amos/David Bowie/Geddy Lee threesome long enough to write: >Eb, Doug, and all you other critics out there -- how do you cope with >negative review responses? Most artists couldn't care less, as far as I can tell. Seems like a lot of badly reviewed artists *feed* on the criticisms in some way, and self-righteously tell themselves that "those feeble critics just don't understand me." Eb, who did get nasty email from a member of Sixteen Deluxe once, and lost a Rentals assignment because the group's leader was (unjustifiably) miffed about a Weezer article I wrote and refused to be interviewed ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 15:11:50 -0800 From: Eb Subject: speaking of musicians whom *some* people want to see naked Did you guys know that Fiona Apple's upcoming album is supposedly titled "When the Pawn Hits the Conflicts He Thinks Like a King What He Knows Throws the Blows When He Goes to the Fight and He'll Win the Whole Thing 'Fore He Enters the Ring There's No Body to Batter When Your Mind Is Your Might So When You Go Solo, You Hold Your Own Hand and Remember That Depth Is the Greatest of Heights and If You Know Where You Stand, Then You Know Where to Land and If You Fall It Won't Matter, 'Cuz You'll Know That You're Right"? At least, according to ICE magazine.... Eb, very grumpy today ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 18:17:25 -0400 (EDT) From: dmw Subject: Re: The Walken Dead On Thu, 28 Oct 1999, The Great Quail wrote: > Eb, Doug, and all you other critics out there -- how do you cope with > negative review responses? I mean, I've only reviewed old movies, > weird pieces of music, or really good books before. But man, this is > Christopher Walken! And he may actually see this!!!! He'll kick my the worst i've ever gotten from an artist is not very bad -- mostly rueful acknowledgement that i identified some deficiency or other, although i do have a burgeoning stack of labor-of-love, self-released, heartfelt, utterly meritless discs and demos, etc. that i can find no joy in savaging, and nothing good to say about. fans, on the other hand, have given me the willies a few times. (_Stargate_ sucked! It was a half-assed mish-mash of cross-genre cliches frankenstitched together, badly acted, and unsalvaged by lackluster, not-very-special effects...and you can kill me if you want, but it won't miraculously, retroactively make a good film of _Stargate_! So either shoot me, or get the f--- out of my apartment, you mushroom-faced fanboy!) > Scared in Brooklyn, but having fixed the sig typo, not yet, you haven't. keep working on it. - -- d. who distinctly remembers joel saying he thought the ranking thread was interesting, or words to similar affect, even though d. deleted the evidence thereof. - - oh no, you've just read mail from doug = dmw@radix.net - get yr pathos - - www.pathetic-caverns.com -- books, flicks, tunes, etc. = reviews - - www.fecklessbeast.com -- angst, guilt, fear, betrayal! = guitar pop ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V8 #402 *******************************