From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V8 #395 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Saturday, October 23 1999 Volume 08 : Number 395 Today's Subjects: ----------------- big in japan [Bayard ] Ursula! [DDerosa5@aol.com] Bawb live [DDerosa5@aol.com] Ursula LeGuin [John Barrington Jones ] Re: these stats amaze me [re: Bawb] [Jeff Dwarf ] Re: Ursula! [Joel Mullins ] Re: Ursula! [steve ] Re: Ursula! [Joel Mullins ] Re: Ursula! [dmw ] turning japanese, i really think so [Andrew Shaver ] Genetically-modified Hitchcock [Andrew Milligan ] Re: Genetically-modified Hitchcock [MARKEEFE@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 13:19:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Bayard Subject: big in japan For those who read Japanese or are just curious, check out "Devil's Radio", a japanese robyn site: http://www.geocities.co.jp/MusicStar/2891/ Also, an embryonic soft boys site: (not too much there yet) http://www.flash.net/~mmoore72/softboys.htm ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 15:21:36 EDT From: DDerosa5@aol.com Subject: Ursula! I just read Dispossessed on my camping trip, coming back is of course its main theme. And the book in which the main character (Shevek, kinda like Dirac?) invents the ansible, though I don't remember if he names it... I have Always Coming Home in the original box set, which includes a cassette tape of poetry, chanting (in the language Leguin invented for the book) and music (ditto on the instruments). Plus, a really cute ditty called "the Quail song", which I played during the feg breakfast, acutally interrupting OTC to it. I don't know if the book comes with this stuff anymore--seems like a CD would be much easier than a cassette to package, but I didn't see anythiing in the paperback I checked recently--maybe you can mail away for it, like for the reunion kiss scene in the Princess Bride (which I also just read again recently, damn it's good). ACH also has myths, plays, games, recipes (most not veg, whcih makes it seem authentically "indian"), and just lovely culture, though the novel itself wasn't quite up to snuff, IIRC. Maybe I should re-read it... Leguin, ISTR, is in Bartlett's for the quote "The king is pregnant" from LHOD... I wonder how much of the above will turn out to be untrue? dave ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 15:34:24 EDT From: DDerosa5@aol.com Subject: Bawb live Hey, Chicago-area fegs: I just heard that Dylan is doing two small venue shows with his band this Tuesday the 26th. Both in one night, at Park West I think. It's an XRT show,, tickets go on sale MOnday morning 10am, Ticketmaster, but not over the phone (so, CPS, Dominck's, etc.). $30, which I'm told is a good price. 7pm show is all ages, 10pm over 18 (ya think Bob has a ton of teenybopper fans who will ruin the first gig? He's not Madonna, for chrissake) I dunno yet if I'm going, as I've already spent a bundle on 4 tickets to the Robyn show (so Becca, you and Dolph are covered) and some for the OTC shows. Still, as I will never go to outdoor shows at Alpine or the "World" on purpose again, this might be a good way to see him. Email me offlist if you're interested... dave sorry to repeat Viv's Quail ref, hadn't read far enough ahead. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 12:54:38 -0700 (PDT) From: John Barrington Jones Subject: Ursula LeGuin http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ts/book-customer-reviews/0061054887/qid=939354829/sr=1-2/002-5503497-9425638 (Dispossessed reader reviews) =jbj= ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 14:17:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: these stats amaze me [re: Bawb] Eb wrote: > >not really. dylan has, after all, been more famous or > >influential than popular. > > Nowadays, yes. But back in the '60s? Watch "Don't Look Back" > again, and check all the popular furor over him. And look at > all the classic-rock radio airplay Dylan gets today. Seems like > you're trying to rank Dylan as a cult artist on par with the > Velvet Underground, and that really doesn't wash. well, VU wasn't that great a counterexample. maybe more a cult artist along the lines of the grateful dead, in that while he's always been very well known and and fairly popular, he's never been as commmercially successful in terms of record sales as the public perception of him would make you think he is. except, unlike the dead, he doesn't suck. :^ > >and since the perception at least exists that CBS did easily > the > >crappiest job in issuing their back catalog on CD originally, > >and they certainly did a terrible job with the packaging, it > >makes defaulting to just getting an old beatles or stones > record > >that much more viable. > > Old Stones and Beatles CDs are also terribly packaged. they weren't packaged great, but nowhere near as bad as how CBS did pretty much all their back issues. you'd almost think CBS thought CD's were going to last about as long as 8-tracks. >>and finally, because dylan's voice is peculiar, a lot of >>people who like his writing would rather just buy byrds or >>joan baez albums, figuring they can have the songs and purty >>singin' too. > > Are you claiming that Joan Baez sells better than Dylan?? maybe diamonds & rust, but generally no, just throwing a second name out with the byrds, and a baez album of all dylan songs was being played in the room i was in. the whole post was just throwing shit at the wall to see what might stick. brainstorming, not theorizing. ===== "America's greatest natural resource, still, to this day, is the moron" --Martin Mull __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 17:26:53 -0700 From: Joel Mullins Subject: Re: Ursula! DDerosa5@aol.com wrote: > > I just read Dispossessed on my camping trip, Speaking of reading, I just finished Slaughterhouse Five, which I was somewhat disappointed with. I thought it was supposed to be this really great book, but it really didn't do anything for me. It's probably the worst Vonnegut book I've read. However, now I'm reading an amazing novel called Jitterbug Perfume, by Tom Robbins. All his novels are great and so far, this one is no exception. Anyone else a Tom Robbins fan? Joel ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 22:01:40 -0500 From: steve Subject: Re: Ursula! DDerosa5@aol.com: >I have Always Coming Home in the original box set, which includes a cassette >tape of poetry, chanting (in the language Leguin invented for the book) and >music (ditto on the instruments). I haven't looked lately, but I think even the mass market PB is out of print. The audio part was only ever available with the boxed set. There was a hardback of this, but Bantam screwed up and only produced 50 or so and they all went to one retailer. They then got sued by several irate booksellers who didn't get their hardback orders. I don't recall the outcome. Seems like a prime eBay item - Steve _______________ We're all Jesus, Buddha, and the Wizard of Oz! - Andy Partridge ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Oct 1999 03:44:32 -0700 From: Joel Mullins Subject: Re: Ursula! Fpaux@aol.com wrote: > As far as a favorite; it's a toss up btwn > Jitterbug and Skinny Legs. > Beets! Has anyone ever smelled beet pollen? Do beets even flower? > Carissa Skinny has always been my favportie. We'll seee waht happens. I', kinda drunk right now. jlm ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Oct 1999 07:44:27 -0400 (EDT) From: dmw Subject: Re: Ursula! On Sat, 23 Oct 1999, Joel Mullins wrote: > Fpaux@aol.com wrote: > > > As far as a favorite; it's a toss up btwn > > Jitterbug and Skinny Legs. > > Beets! Has anyone ever smelled beet pollen? Do beets even flower? > > Carissa > > Skinny has always been my favportie. We'll seee waht happens. I', > kinda drunk right now. > > jlm i've only read _still life with woodpecker_ so far, but liked it a lot. didn't start smoking camels, though. - -- d. - - oh no, you've just read mail from doug = dmw@radix.net - get yr pathos - - www.pathetic-caverns.com -- books, flicks, tunes, etc. = reviews - - www.fecklessbeast.com -- angst, guilt, fear, betrayal! = guitar pop ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 07:31:53 -0400 (EDT) From: Andrew Shaver Subject: turning japanese, i really think so this morning, this rain; so dark out, yet so many cars! - --ando hi i'm pluged in now ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 15:42:48 +0100 From: Andrew Milligan Subject: Genetically-modified Hitchcock Hi, to all Fegmaniax world-wide, as you can probably gather from my severe lack of Internet protocol I am a new Internet user etc, but on the plus side despite my total lack of compuet/website dexterity I am a passionate Hitchcock fan, and it has taken me half a goddamn decade to express my feelings regarding Sir Robyn, surely the greatest living singer-songwriter (or for that matter dead- that's of course if you take into consideration Syd Barrett- shit shouldn't have come out with that old cliche) that has come from Britain. As you probably can tell from the title of this message I am a dodgy scientist, in fact I genetically modify wheat at Rothamsted Experimental Station for a living- and I don't give a shit about what anybody thinks about it cos I am a total cynic, and I need to fund my psychedelia collection somehow!! My favourite Hitchcock LPs are prob. 'Globe of Frogs' and 'Perspex Island'; 'Underwater Moonlight' kicks serious ass!!! Well I could go on. I am also into the fabulous 'Autour de Lucie' (France's best export since David Ginola je pense- they are a jangly indie-pop band who verge on psychedelic-pop a la Cocteaus and Valentines!!), Cocteau Twins (d'accord) as well as other 4AD stuff (This Mortal Coil/Pixies/Breesers/Belly et al), Belle & Sebastian, Saint Etienne, Super Furries, oh I could doubtless go on and bore you all shitless. Bye for now Marlon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Oct 1999 09:00:06 -0500 From: "bret" Subject: Austin tonite. BTW I leave for Austin in a couple of hours. GOnna find some good food, hit a couple of record stores , etc, etc, etc..... SHould be a fine show. - --Bret ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Oct 1999 14:33:13 EDT From: MARKEEFE@aol.com Subject: Re: Genetically-modified Hitchcock See, I *told* you guys Robyn was made from wheat instead of barley! In the right light, it's pretty obvious, really. I'd like to offer, on behalf of all Fegs, a big howdy-do to Marlon (aka, Andrew Milligan) . . . and a special thanks to him for genetically engineering our beloved Robyn :-) - ------Michael K. np - some 4ad band called Dead Can something-or-other ("Aion") ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V8 #395 *******************************