From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V8 #377 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Wednesday, October 6 1999 Volume 08 : Number 377 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: the arse protest wasn't enough... ["Jason R. Thornton" ] Re: the arse protest wasn't enough... ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Re: fegmaniax-digest V8 #376 [Doc ] fiona apple's new album has a really long name...she must be very intelligent ["Andrew D. Simchik" ] RE: Halloween troubles ["Bachman, Michael" ] Re: peter gabriel's albums have a really short names...he must be an idiot ["Jason R. Thornton" ] RE: Hank! ["Bachman, Michael" ] Re: Hank! ["Jason R. Thornton" ] Attention, fellow Texas Fegs [Aaron Lowe ] Re: Halloween troubles ["Anal Oil Leakage" ] Owsleywatch [Eb ] Re: Halloween troubles [Christopher Gross ] Re: Halloween troubles [Eb ] RE: Hank! [Ken Ostrander ] the worst thing about Chris Gaines [Eb ] Re: Attention, fellow Texas Fegs ["Anal Oil Leakage" ] Re: Austin shows ["Anal Oil Leakage" ] Re: Austin shows [Eb ] Re: MTV [Joel Mullins ] Re: Austin shows ["bret" ] Re: Austin shows ["Jason R. Thornton" ] Re: Halloween troubles [Tom Clark ] Re: best...old thread [Michael Wolfe ] www.fegmania.com [Aaron Lowe ] html trouble ["Michael Kearns, Interim Director, UWC" ] Re: www.fegmania.com [Tom Clark ] ars gratia artis [digja611@student.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan)] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 06 Oct 1999 08:27:20 -0700 From: "Jason R. Thornton" Subject: Re: the arse protest wasn't enough... At 08:55 AM 10/6/99 -0500, chad leahy cut and pasted: >http://abcnews.go.com/wire/Entertainment/reuters19991005_1014.html >The American Society for the Defense of Tradition, Family and Property... The American Society for the Defense of Tradition, Family and ***PROPERTY***???? What the hell? Jason, who has quite an urge to type F U C K T H E P O P E again "Only the few know the sweetness of the twisted apples." - Sherwood Anderson ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Oct 1999 08:36:11 -0700 From: "Jason R. Thornton" Subject: Re: MTV At 01:44 AM 10/6/99 -0700, Joel Mullins wrote: >... And do you guys feel that MTV "challenges >[your] thinking"? I'm always thinking, "no, there's no way Mariah Carey can get any sluttier." But, each new video, each new bit of album/single art, challenges my assumptions every time. - --Jason "Only the few know the sweetness of the twisted apples." - Sherwood Anderson ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Oct 1999 16:42:30 +0100 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: the arse protest wasn't enough... "Jason R. Thornton" wrote: > > Jason, who has quite an urge to type F U C K T H E P O P E again I don't think the TFP would like that; see their web site http://www.tfp.org/ which is enlightening. Oh, by the way Jason, I'd lose that urge if you ever visit Scotland. Say it in the wrong part of Glasgow, and it'd get you killed. - -- Stewart C. Russell Analyst Programmer, Dictionary Division stewart@ref.collins.co.uk HarperCollins Publishers use Disclaimer; my $opinion; Glasgow, Scotland ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Oct 1999 09:03:56 -0700 From: "Jason R. Thornton" Subject: Re: the arse protest wasn't enough... At 04:42 PM 10/6/99 +0100, Stewart C. Russell wrote: >Oh, by the way Jason, I'd lose that urge if you ever visit Scotland. Say >it in the wrong part of Glasgow, and it'd get you killed. I had a friend, who lived in Santa Monica, who dressed up as the Pope one Halloween - not even in an offensive way - and ended up getting the living crap beat out of him by a roving gang of Catholics for his troubles. Believe me, I know when and where it's safe to open my mouth, and when to keep it shut. I also know never to dress up as the pope. One more week until that double Cocteau Twins album of BBC sessions comes out. Woohoo! - --Jason "Only the few know the sweetness of the twisted apples." - Sherwood Anderson ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 09:16:10 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: RE: Austin shows On 10/6/99 8:06 AM, Bachman, Michael wrote: > Wasn't the movie SLACKER filmed in Austin, TX? Yes it was. - -Tom "I'm selling Madonna's pap smear on Ebay" The Tomster ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 09:41:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Doc Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V8 #376 Eb quoted: >>taking the piss. and Eb said: >There's another phrase I hate...especially when coming from Americans. Too bad. Deal with it. If you can think of the equivalent expression in American English, I'll gladly use it. - -Doc "And when I say 'fuck off,' people say, 'Well, that's just a lack in your own vocabulary.' Well, this is nonsense. If someone showed me the equivalent of 'fuck off' in English, I'd happily use it. It certainly isn't 'go away'. Or 'go away, exclamation point'." - Billy Connolly. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 09:50:58 -0700 (PDT) From: "Andrew D. Simchik" Subject: fiona apple's new album has a really long name...she must be very intelligent > From: Eb > > Drew: > >1) What does it mean to "misread" a cover? Is it just > >a question of ruining the original song, or can one's > >version of the song pervert the original tone or meaning > >of the song? > > The best example I can think of is Guns 'N Roses' version > of "Knockin' on > Heaven's Door." The original tune is a reflective > deathbed hymn about > accepting one's incipient demise. GNR's version sounds > like a gleeful ode > to self-destruction. *Completely* misses the boat. The only thing that springs to mind with Tori's "Famous Blue Raincoat" is that her voice and Cohen's are (obviously) very different. She sings it passionately and sadly and solemnly. Cohen's voice is much more deadpan and measured, and the emotions are much less bald and much more open to interpretation. You could say Tori's gives it all away, or maybe misses some shades of meaning that should be there. > >taking the piss. > > There's another phrase I hate...especially when coming > from Americans. So sorry...didn't realise. > From: "Scott Hunter McCleary" > > Drew writes from the North American capital of cloudy > days: Oh, you know Rochester! Actually it's probably the Northeast American capital of cloudy days (and the computers, coffee, and smack all suck...uh, I've heard). Then again, I've never been to Seattle, so what do I know? > But it's really good shit, Mr. Simchik. And artistically it was shat! > From: Joel Mullins [MTV's mission statement] > I don't mind if they put that crap on television, but the > least they > could do is be honest about what they're airing and not > try to pretend > that they're doing something that's actually important. All they said was that it was their mission...not that they were accomplishing it. :) I recently decided to drop in on 120 Minutes to see if it had come to suck as much as the rest of the network. Well: duh. Truly appalling. I watched, sick to my stomach, as Dave Holmes "interviewed" Joe Strummer this past Sunday. Strummer ranted amusingly about the danger of corporations and computers at the end of his hour, but the remainder was utterly painful and embarrassing...like watching Alvin the Chipmunk interview Stephen Hawking. You can't go home again. Drew ===== Andrew D. Simchik, schnopia@yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Oct 1999 12:50:30 -0400 From: Stephen Buckalew Subject: Hampster dance + Belle & Sebastian Wow.... I was listening to Belle and Sebastian's "You're just a Baby" when I clicked on Randi's http://www.hampsterdance.com/ site... It was totally groovy! Thank you Randi S.B. **************************************************************************** "...everythings all on...it's rosy...it's a beautiful day!"--Syd Barrett **************************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 17:52:59 +0100 (BST) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: Halloween troubles On Wed, 6 Oct 1999, Jason R. Thornton wrote: > I had a friend, who lived in Santa Monica, who dressed up as the Pope > one Halloween - not even in an offensive way - and ended up getting > the living crap beat out of him by a roving gang of Catholics for his > troubles. Suspending the pope in formaldehyde is also not recommended. You might get away with a cardinal or two waist-deep in elephant dung, as long as it was art, or a Richard Lester film. - - Mike "Richelieu beyond the dreams of Aramis" Godwin ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 12:47:02 -0400 From: "Bachman, Michael" Subject: RE: Halloween troubles How about a "dead bishop on the landing". Michael - -----Original Message----- From: Michael R Godwin [mailto:hssmrg@bath.ac.uk] Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 1999 12:53 PM To: pope george ringo II Subject: Re: Halloween troubles On Wed, 6 Oct 1999, Jason R. Thornton wrote: > I had a friend, who lived in Santa Monica, who dressed up as the Pope > one Halloween - not even in an offensive way - and ended up getting > the living crap beat out of him by a roving gang of Catholics for his > troubles. Suspending the pope in formaldehyde is also not recommended. You might get away with a cardinal or two waist-deep in elephant dung, as long as it was art, or a Richard Lester film. - - Mike "Richelieu beyond the dreams of Aramis" Godwin ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 12:56:58 -0400 (EDT) From: Aaron Mandel Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V8 #376 On Wed, 6 Oct 1999, Doc wrote: > Too bad. Deal with it. If you can think of the equivalent expression > in American English, I'll gladly use it. the closest i can think of is "busting [one's] balls", and that is hardly an expression i would mind never hearing again. or "yanking his chain". do not take it so personal, funny man! i am merely abrading your genitals! a ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Oct 1999 10:40:57 -0700 From: "Jason R. Thornton" Subject: Re: peter gabriel's albums have a really short names...he must be an idiot >> From: Eb >> >> Drew: >> >1) What does it mean to "misread" a cover? Is it just >> >a question of ruining the original song, or can one's >> >version of the song pervert the original tone or meaning >> >of the song? >> >> The best example I can think of is Guns 'N Roses' version >> of "Knockin' on >> Heaven's Door." The original tune is a reflective >> deathbed hymn about >> accepting one's incipient demise. GNR's version sounds >> like a gleeful ode >> to self-destruction. *Completely* misses the boat. Of course, what one person calls "misreading," another might call "reinterpreting," or "subverting the original meaning of." - --Jason "Only the few know the sweetness of the twisted apples." - Sherwood Anderson ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 14:21:09 -0400 From: lj lindhurst Subject: Hank! Well, we are right now listening to Hank Williams III's debut album, _Risin' Outlaw_, and boy is it a lot of fun! Anyone who likes country music-- that is, REAL country music-- would get a real kick out of this record. He sounds a lot more like his grandpa than his dad, somewhere between rocking and yodelling, and he's certainly got a keen eye for the scenery and misery that makes up a good country song. This is definitely going to be one of my favorites of the year. Speaking of country music-- the UNREAL kind-- what the fuck is up with Garth Brooks?? If I have to see that stupid-assed picture of him dressed up like Trent Reznor one more time, I'm going to go out and kill the entire Judd family!! l p.s., I really liked it when Eb said he was a "poopyhead". * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * LJ Lindhurst White Rabbit Graphic Design http://www.w-rabbit.com NYC ljl@w-rabbit.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * "Every head is a head and there is no head which is not suitable for any creature." --Amos Tutuola ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 14:40:56 -0400 From: "Bachman, Michael" Subject: RE: Hank! You will have to get past me first if you intend to do harm to Ashley. Michael - -----Original Message----- From: lj lindhurst [mailto:ljl@w-rabbit.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 1999 2:21 PM To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Subject: Hank! Well, we are right now listening to Hank Williams III's debut album, _Risin' Outlaw_, and boy is it a lot of fun! Anyone who likes country music-- that is, REAL country music-- would get a real kick out of this record. He sounds a lot more like his grandpa than his dad, somewhere between rocking and yodelling, and he's certainly got a keen eye for the scenery and misery that makes up a good country song. This is definitely going to be one of my favorites of the year. Speaking of country music-- the UNREAL kind-- what the fuck is up with Garth Brooks?? If I have to see that stupid-assed picture of him dressed up like Trent Reznor one more time, I'm going to go out and kill the entire Judd family!! l p.s., I really liked it when Eb said he was a "poopyhead". * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * LJ Lindhurst White Rabbit Graphic Design http://www.w-rabbit.com NYC ljl@w-rabbit.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * "Every head is a head and there is no head which is not suitable for any creature." --Amos Tutuola ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Oct 1999 13:17:43 -0700 From: "Jason R. Thornton" Subject: Re: Hank! At 02:21 PM 10/6/99 -0400, lj lindhurst wrote: >Speaking of country music-- the UNREAL kind-- what the fuck is up >with Garth Brooks?? If I have to see that stupid-assed picture of >him dressed up like Trent Reznor one more time, I'm going to go out >and kill the entire Judd family!! Man, I totally dare Trent Reznor to dress up in a cowboy hat, a long sleeved button-up striped shirt, levi's 501s and a huge belt buckle that reads "i wanna fuck you like an animal," and to release an album of mainstream top 40 ballads and soft-rockers with a slight twang to them. And perhaps a wee bit of lap steel guitar. BTW - Anyone wanna join me for a road trip to follow the Kids in the Hall tour across the US? Oh... And just to prove that I'm not COMPLETELY evil, despite really liking the film "The Last Temptation of Christ," here are some baby panda bear links for y'all. The last one is real time, and so you might not see it. http://www.sandiegozoo.org/special/pandas/panda_baby_intro.html http://www.sandiegozoo.org/special/pandas/panda_baby_onemonth.html http://www.sandiegozoo.org/special/pandas/graphics/babycolor2_sept21.jpg http://www.sandiegozoo.org/special/pandacam/index.html - --Jason "Only the few know the sweetness of the twisted apples." - Sherwood Anderson ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Oct 1999 15:28:32 -0500 From: Aaron Lowe Subject: Attention, fellow Texas Fegs I apologize if this has already been mentioned on the list -- I have to admit that although I generally enjoy lurking and reading what you all have to say, I do sometimes miss a thread here and there. I just stumbled upon this when intending to go to woj's page: http://www.fegmania.com (it's also mirrored at http://www.fegmania.net). Anyone know who this is? Is this a quote from something, or someone's own "poetic manifesto"? On a different note, I have recently moved back to Texas, after leaving for 3-1/2 years following my graduation from the University of Houston, and the very best part of being back here has been ... *so many opportunties to see Robyn perform*. I was thrilled to death to see him in Austin, touring with the Flaming Lips, Sebadoh, Speak-n-Spell Man, und so weiter, but... 3 shows in 2 nights with RH *headlining*. I must have died and gone to heaven. Of course, I intend to be at all 3 Cactus Cafe shows. I live in Houston, so I'll plan on staying in Austin overnight on Saturday night. If any of you Texas Fegs (or roadtrippin' Fegs, for that matter) are planning on being in Austin during the day on Sunday, we should get together and see something interesting. The only occasions on which I've been in Austin heretofore were for the MABDR and for a They Might Be Giants concert a couple weeks back. I should take advantage of my more extended stay in Austin this time by seeing more of what there is to see. Anyone have any suggestions? Okay, *lurk mode back on* Aaron ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Oct 1999 13:29:40 PDT From: "Anal Oil Leakage" Subject: Re: Halloween troubles i'd no idea that richard lester had directed How I Won The War, until just last week. i read somewhere that it's a "scathing" indictment of World War II. true? the imdb users only give it 4.9 out of a possible ten stars (converting to ebscale, that would be 9.8 out of a possilbe 20 stars, and i don't think eb even bothers with anything less than a 12 out of a possible 20 stars). i've always meant to get around to watching, just 'cause it's john lennon. but now i may have to move it to a more prominent place on the ol' must-see-eventually list. probably even above Ferris Bueller's Day Off. (you wouldn't believe how much grief i've received for not having seen that one!) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 13:42:58 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Owsleywatch Hey, have you seen that new commercial for Nautica Jeans, with an Owsley track as the background? Nifty! It won't do much for his album sales since he's not identified, but at least it'll put some money in his pocket.... Eb - --- Frank Zappa newsgroup post, regarding Ahmet and Dweezil's recent tv venture: > FZ's turning over in his grave because of his semi-talentless spoiled > offspring's failed attempt at kitchiness. > > I'm sure I'll get a few takers with this query, Does anyone think HAPPY > HOUR is a watchable programme? I'd almost rather watch TBN or CMT than > that Chuck Barris inspired insipidness. That plus, of all of the > has-been celebs they've had on they've never featured that Eb dude from > GREEN ACRES. > > Eb rules! He founded Eb-Ay. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 16:47:49 -0400 (EDT) From: Christopher Gross Subject: Re: Halloween troubles On Wed, 6 Oct 1999, Anal Oil Leakage wrote: > but now i may have to move it to a more prominent place on the > ol' must-see-eventually list. probably even above Ferris Bueller's Day Off. > (you wouldn't believe how much grief i've received for not having seen > that one!) You and me both, brother. I did finally see it two years ago, but until then there was a lot of doubt expressed about whether I really attended high school in the 80s, as I claimed, or was instead a space alien with a conspicuous gap in his cover story. People can be so cruel.... - --Zoltan ... I mean, Chris np: Skinny Puppy, Too Dark Park ______________________________________________________________________ Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 13:50:49 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: Halloween troubles Eddie: >i don't think eb even bothers with anything less than a 12 out of a possible >20 stars). i've always meant to get around to watching, just 'cause it's >john lennon. but now i may have to move it to a more prominent place on the >ol' must-see-eventually list. I've seen it, but quite awhile ago. Yup, it's kind of an anti-war satire. A bit silly, but certainly interesting. I don't remember much about it, at this point. I remember the dead surrealistically keep following the platoon, maybe "dyed" a different color or something? Yellow? Incidentally, "The Knack (And How To Get It)" is a goddamn great film. Michael Crawford wasn't *always* so unbearable.... And yes, anything I keep under a 12/20 is usually a collection-completer or something I'm very, very ambivalent about. >probably even above Ferris Bueller's Day Off. > (you wouldn't believe how much grief i've received for not having seen >that one!) Gawd. One of the most annoying films ever made. Eb, who finally saw Pleasantville the other day and really liked it a lot ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Oct 1999 16:25:01 -0400 From: Ken Ostrander Subject: RE: Hank! i had no idea mr. bolton was on this list; but i have to say i'll back him up defending ashley. if he happens to go down, well, that's the breaks. ken "cassanova" the kenster np bad love randy newman ps. i may just check out that hank jr jr album. pps. and what is up with that garth "poopyhead" brooks as chris gaines? is it possibly because his country albums have stopped breaking sales records? why should i give a shit? > You will have to get past me first if you intend to do harm to Ashley. > >Michael > >>Well, we are right now listening to Hank Williams III's debut album, >>_Risin' Outlaw_, and boy is it a lot of fun! Anyone who likes >>country music-- that is, REAL country music-- would get a real kick >>out of this record. He sounds a lot more like his grandpa than his >>dad, somewhere between rocking and yodelling, and he's certainly got >>a keen eye for the scenery and misery that makes up a good country >>song. This is definitely going to be one of my favorites of the year. >> >>Speaking of country music-- the UNREAL kind-- what the fuck is up >>with Garth Brooks?? If I have to see that stupid-assed picture of >>him dressed up like Trent Reznor one more time, I'm going to go out >>and kill the entire Judd family!! >> > > > >p.s., I really liked it when Eb said he was a "poopyhead". ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 14:12:42 -0800 From: Eb Subject: the worst thing about Chris Gaines The IP address for the old official Cocteau Twins website now houses a Chris Gaines page, instead. Oooooof. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Oct 1999 14:11:33 PDT From: "Anal Oil Leakage" Subject: Re: Attention, fellow Texas Fegs that is just flat-out fucking *weird*! i can't believe nobody ever thought to look that up before. here i am looking up , or what have you, when the real goods are at fegmania.com. it looks like jeme's work to me. not only for the innumerable monkey/donkey references, but also 'cause he's the kind of fellow who would have been thinking far enough in advance to register such a domain name. MOREOVER, he's got just a sick enough sense of humour to "preview" the site with a "poetic manifesto" of this nature. of course he'll deny it. which just means that it's true. KEN "All of our favorite movies have failed us" THE KENSTER ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Oct 1999 14:13:37 PDT From: "Anal Oil Leakage" Subject: Re: Austin shows for completeness' sake, i called the cactus this morning, and was informed that there will be no advance sales for the 24th either. the gates will open around 7:45. p.s. FUCK ticketmaster! fuck it right in the ass! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 14:19:06 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: Austin shows >p.s. FUCK ticketmaster! fuck it right in the ass! My recent Brian Wilson ticket-buying experience prompts me to agree with these elegant sentiments. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Oct 1999 16:13:51 -0700 From: Joel Mullins Subject: Re: MTV Jason R. Thornton wrote: > > At 01:44 AM 10/6/99 -0700, Joel Mullins wrote: > > >... And do you guys feel that MTV "challenges > >[your] thinking"? > > I'm always thinking, "no, there's no way Mariah Carey can get any sluttier." But, each new video, each new bit of album/single art, challenges my assumptions every time. This is one of the only good things about MTV. Joel ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 16:24:44 -0500 From: "bret" Subject: Re: Austin shows >>p.s. FUCK ticketmaster! fuck it right in the ass! > >My recent Brian Wilson ticket-buying experience prompts me to agree with >these elegant sentiments. two things. I thought this was the way it always was. but....... Eb? you *bought* tickets? - -b ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Oct 1999 14:40:27 -0700 From: "Jason R. Thornton" Subject: Re: Austin shows At 02:13 PM 10/6/99 PDT, eddie leaked this pool of oil right out of his bumhole: >p.s. FUCK ticketmaster! fuck it right in the ass! I say we put Ticketmaster and the Pope into a pit, and let them fight it out to the death. I'd probably root for the Pope. - --Jason "Only the few know the sweetness of the twisted apples." - Sherwood Anderson ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 15:10:08 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Halloween troubles On 10/6/99 2:50 PM, Eb wrote: >Eb, who finally saw Pleasantville the other day and really liked it a lot Reese Witherspoon rules. See "Freeway". - -tc (and "Cruel Intentions" too) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Oct 1999 21:41:45 +0000 (GMT) From: Michael Wolfe Subject: Re: best...old thread <<<< now thinking: what if I wanted to call something "The Evil-Tempered Clavier"? I'm sure this has been done. Would that be "Das Bo"setemperierte Clavier"? >> Wouldn't "Poorly-Tempered" be the opposite? Also, I think I'd prefer "Ill-Tempered Clavier" to "Evil-Tempered." Temperament seems more like a superficial state/way of behaving, whereas evil is much, much deeper. For instance, while Satan is undoubtedly evil, he's probably not always ill-tempered. I mean, if he's snappin' up souls and terrorizing the virtuous, then he's probably in a very good temper, indeed. But I don't know anything about a possible translation. Just thought I'd throw in my 2 cents :-)>> Just so you know, Peter Schickele and PDQ Bach did "The Short-Tempered Clavier", which strikes me as the most natural inversion of the idiom. Can't tell you how it is, but it has been done before. Schickele's generally a lot of fun, too. - -Michael Wolfe ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Oct 1999 16:22:31 -0500 From: Aaron Lowe Subject: www.fegmania.com I did a WHOIS lookup, and this is what I came up with: Registrant:barmetta.com (FEGMANIA3-DOM) 1 Barmetta Way Atherton, CA 94027 US Domain Name: FEGMANIA.COM Administrative Contact, Technical Contact, Zone Contact: O'Connor, Bryan D (BOC13) bdo@BARMETTA.COM +1 650 326 2478 Billing Contact: O'Connor, Bryan D (BOC13) bdo@BARMETTA.COM +1 650 326 2478 Record last updated on 17-Sep-99. Record created on 17-Sep-99. Database last updated on 5-Oct-99 07:05:27 EDT. Domain servers in listed order: NS1.FEGMANIA.NET 208.166.41.27 NS2.FEGMANIA.NET 24.142.60.178 Anyone know him? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 15:51:52 -0500 From: "Michael Kearns, Interim Director, UWC" Subject: html trouble Hey, this is Joel. I'm at work working on a webpage and I need some help. I only know = basic html, which is all I really need to know because I'm working with = a site that has already been created. I was just updating it, putting = our new hours up and such. In the process of this, I did something that = messed up the bottom half of the page. I was hoping one of you = webmasters might know what caused this problem and how to fix it. Doing = this is not exactly part of my job, but no one else here knows how, so = I'm trying my best. Anyway, here's a link. If anyone can help, please = send a reply to the address I'm writing from. http://www.utpb.edu/artsci/writing/writing.htm Thanks Joel ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 17:28:24 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: www.fegmania.com Dude's hosted at Cable Co-Op, which means he's running it off a cable modem in his house. - -tc On 10/6/99 2:22 PM, Aaron Lowe wrote: >I did a WHOIS lookup, and this is what I came up with: > >Registrant:barmetta.com (FEGMANIA3-DOM) >1 Barmetta Way >Atherton, CA 94027 > >US Domain Name: FEGMANIA.COM > >Administrative Contact, Technical Contact, Zone Contact: O'Connor, Bryan D >(BOC13) > bdo@BARMETTA.COM >+1 650 326 2478 >Billing Contact: O'Connor, Bryan D (BOC13) > bdo@BARMETTA.COM > +1 650 326 2478 > >Record last updated on 17-Sep-99. >Record created on 17-Sep-99. >Database last updated on 5-Oct-99 07:05:27 EDT. > >Domain servers in listed order: >NS1.FEGMANIA.NET 208.166.41.27 >NS2.FEGMANIA.NET 24.142.60.178 > > >Anyone know him? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 14:05:06 +1200 From: digja611@student.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) Subject: ars gratia artis >The film, directed by "Chasing Amy" director Kevin Smith, also stars Linda >Fiorentino and Selma Hayek, as well as comedian Chris Rock as a hitherto >unknown 13th apostle. who the fuck is Frank, anyway? Sounds like NY is having the same problems that we did in Wellington last year with an art exhibit involving a figurine of the Virgin Mary enclosed in a condom. It was great publicity for the museum and the artists... >The American Society for the Defense of Tradition, Family and Property [...] the *wha'*??? >[...] It condones what we condemn -- murder, >obscenity, violence, profanity, drugs, drunkenness and rebellion!" I take it they don't think much of the Old Testament, then... James James Dignan___________________________________ You talk to me Deptmt of Psychology, Otago University As if from a distance ya zhivu v' 50 Norfolk Street And I reply. . . . . . . . . . Dunedin, New Zealand with impressions chosen from another time steam megaphone (03) 455-7807 (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V8 #377 *******************************