From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V8 #374 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Tuesday, October 5 1999 Volume 08 : Number 374 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Don't believe the hype!!! [Jason Thornton ] Re: Don't believe the hype!!! [MARKEEFE@aol.com] Re: Glasgow gig ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Re: Robyn Hitchcock handwriting font? ["Stewart C. Russell" ] ...more on them and U.S. ["Tony Blackman" ] Rick stuff ["Tony Blackman" ] Re: Egyptians [Michael R Godwin ] Re: ...more on them and U.S. ["matt sewell" ] top 10 [Katherine Rossner ] Re: Robyn Hitchcock handwriting font? ["JH3" ] Re: Robyn Hitchcock handwriting font? [Bayard ] Re: Robyn Hitchcock handwriting font? [Eb ] Re: Glasgow gig ["Anal Oil Leakage" ] Yet another freakin' Bowie post ["Jason R. Thornton" ] mystery band/online videos [Bayard ] Re: fletcher's, 10/27/99 (Baltic morons) [Bayard ] Re: Yet another freakin' Bowie post ["JH3" ] Re: Yet another freakin' Bowie post [Tom Clark ] Re: Yet another freakin' Bowie post [Jeff Dwarf ] shameless washington dc self promotion [dmw ] Re: mystery band [hal brandt ] 30 years of Monty Python [Terrence M Marks ] from randi - smile - for this made me feel better ["*twofangs..aka..randi] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 21:41:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Jason Thornton Subject: Re: Don't believe the hype!!! >>That "Hunky Dory" comparison begs the question: is Mike Garson on it? > >Oh Jason, Jason, Jason...turn in your proggie credentials! Shame on you. > >The pianist on Hunky Dory is not Mike Garson, but an obscure session >musician/Strawb named *Rick Wakeman*. Doh! Too much Garson talk, as of late, I suppose. I'm only part proggie, anyhow... ;) Wakeman. Hmmm. I've heard of him. He was the 3rd Egyptian, right? Out of curiosity, I bought one of the "Thursday's Child" singles today. Ick! I think comparisons to "Never Let Me Down" would be more apt, if the rest of the album sounds like this. By the way, what's up with the lack of bonus tracks on the brand new Bowie CD re-re-releases? - --Jason "Only the few know the sweetness of the twisted apples." - Sherwood Anderson ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 00:50:40 EDT From: MARKEEFE@aol.com Subject: Re: Don't believe the hype!!! In a message dated 10/3/99 9:44:26 PM, jthornton@ucsd.edu writes: << By the way, what's up with the lack of bonus tracks on the brand new Bowie CD re-re-releases? >> Must've been the fact that I singled out the Bowie RYKO bonus tracks in a rant aginst the evil beasts (bonus tracks, that is, as a general concept) on this list not too long ago. Yeah, that's probably what did it ;-) - -----Michael K. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 08:29:00 +0100 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: Glasgow gig HAMISH_SIMPSON@HP-UnitedKingdom-om4.om.hp.com wrote: > > Looks like we got more songs than the previous dates! Robyn was on stage for about 1:40. Which is long. > I was a bit worried there wouldn't be enough of us making enough noise to > get an encore but we seemed to manage. What, you mean like the complete divs in front of me yelling, "We're English! We're f*cking hard!"? (shortly after this, one of them did a drunken stage dive straight into the floor, requring paramedic attention. How hard is that? > High points: You forgot about him asking if anyone was at the Bungalow Bar gig. He always does that in Scotland. And yes, a few of the crowd were there, back in ?1978?. > I wasn't sure why the bass player of the Scapegoats didn't join in for the > encores, especially Beautiful Queen which is lovely on the album. Too busy selling CDs? This very fetching [up] lime and purple JfS tee-shirt I'm wearing was sold to me by Terry Edwards himself. > Finally meeting a fellow subscriber (Hi Stewart). We're thin on the ground in the frozen north. > Low points: > Small crowd. Yes. He filled the Renfrew Ferry last time. Most of the same crowd were there. Most are Soft Boys fans too, so maybe that's why Kimberley was such a hit. > Dickhead slagging the Scapegoats drummer. Yeah, I mean what was that all about? He was a very good drummer indeed. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 08:39:28 +0100 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: Robyn Hitchcock handwriting font? Ariel Green wrote: > > Didn't someone mention such an animal awhile back? If so, I'd like to know > where I can get it. From our very own John H. Hedges. Fegmania Caps. I like it; I have it installed on this Solaris box just in case I stumble across a webfegsite that uses it. (Its X definition should probably be - --fegmania caps-regular-r-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-iso8859-1 for those that care.) Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 08:44:47 +0100 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: BMG differences To follow up from a forgotten poster last week: Yes, there are definitely differences between the BMG and the UK pressing of REM's Automatic For The People. The tracks are slightly different lengths, and overall the CD's a couple of % louder. I don't have access to a US AftP to double check. If anyone has access to a Linux box with cdparanoia, can they help? - -- Stewart C. Russell Analyst Programmer, Dictionary Division stewart@ref.collins.co.uk HarperCollins Publishers use Disclaimer; my $opinion; Glasgow, Scotland ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 14:36:58 +0000 From: "Tony Blackman" Subject: ...more on them and U.S. jmbc said; > To refine what Matt Sewell initiated about the differences between American > and British reactions to RH. At the Dingwalls he had a fair few rowdy, > repititive requests and might have shut up between songs as a result. I've > seen a similar if not exact reaction at recent-ish Mean Fiddler and 12 Bar > appearances. Often, in the past, I have stood next to people who love the > songs but can't bear it when he launches into any kind of surreal > excursion. I've never seen anyone report this kind of pattern at American > gigs. I'll back up that opinion. On several dates on this tour, Robyn has started introducing a song but has been met with a cacophony of shouting and has totally abandoned the introduction. There are a lot of instances of "err... that... I...." before launching straight into the next song as the audience haven't let him complete what he he was attempting to say. Kimberly has often had a puzzled look in those circumstances and has had one of those "don't ask me I'm only playing guitar" impressions. I noticed it the most at the Dingwalls and Winchester gigs (where there were, unfortunately, a few drunken loudmouths in attendance). I think that, of the gigs that I saw, that Milton Keynes and Birmingham were the two that were the least dogged by this type of behaviour. The last Mean Fiddler gig in the main hall was very similar, though I don't remember too much unruly shouting at many 12 Bar gigs. Tony. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 14:41:49 +0000 From: "Tony Blackman" Subject: Rick stuff > The pianist on Hunky Dory is not Mike Garson, but an obscure session > musician/Strawb named *Rick Wakeman*. And boy, I could die a happy man if I > could do what Wakeman does on "Fill Your Heart" so effortlessly.... If only you could see Rick's efforts these days on an obscure UK satellite/cable TV channel introducing a stand-up comedy show with very limp jokes and no stage presence whatsoever...... It just upsets me, I'm a fan of UK stand-up comedy but I can't watch it. Tony. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 14:37:00 +0100 (BST) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: Egyptians On Sat, 2 Oct 1999, Capitalism Blows wrote: > *chris* cox filled in for andy --who'd got sick-- on their first tour of the > states in '85. the summer tour, in other words. at least that's the way i > understand it. but maybe it actually was the nov. '85 tour. I saw Robyn with Chris Cox once at a small club in Bristol, a week or so before the 1987 Glastonbury Festival - first time I heard 'Devil Mask' performed. At the actual Glastonbury gig, however, Matthew Seligman played bass. I have no idea why Andy Metcalfe was unavailable for either of these shows. On a more recent note, Mojo magazine has a regular feature on local bands. The selected band in the October issue were the Rooster Brothers, who feature Morris Windsor on drums!!! They are said to be Byrds / Band influenced, and they play a lot around my area. I will report further if I get a chance to see them. Mojo also has a short but good review of JfS. Should I post it? - - Mike Godwin PS to Ross: Are you still speaking to me? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 14:55:52 BST From: "matt sewell" Subject: Re: ...more on them and U.S. >at the Dingwalls and Winchester gigs (where there were, unfortunately, a >few drunken loudmouths in attendance). I think that, of the gigs that I >saw, that Milton Keynes and Birmingham were the two that were the least >dogged by this type of behaviour. > I was at the Winchester gig, and was surprised by the pissed bastards' constant shouting - they seemed to be old geezers who had just fallen out of a pub they originally went into c.1978... In Oxford, however, everyone was (as is usual) very polite - perhaps that's why Robyn was in such a good mood! What I kinda meant with the UK/US thing was whether the raps are any different, whether Robyn caters differently for the two countries? Cheers! Matt ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 10:13:25 -0400 From: Katherine Rossner Subject: top 10 I don't think anybody's mentioned this...On the EveryCD web site (no, I don't like the idea of a) buying from a big site instead of a local independent store, and b) paying for membership--but they do have discs I can't find anywhere else, and at good prices), there's now a weekly bestseller list. JEWELS FOR SOPHIA is this week's #10. Katherine - -- Ye knowe ek, that in forme of speche is chaunge Withinne a thousand yere, and wordes tho That hadden pris, now wonder nyce and straunge Us thinketh hem, and yet they spake hem so. - Chaucer, "Troilus and Criseyde" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 11:10:34 -0500 From: "JH3" Subject: Re: Robyn Hitchcock handwriting font? Ariel wrote: >>Didn't someone mention such an animal awhile back? If so, I'd >>like to know where I can get it. The URL is http://www.alternatech.net/jh3/robyn . I'm also temporarily hosting the so-called "official" Robynbase site for a little while... My site is a little slower than Bayard's, but we've been upgrading our stuff here, so maybe things will speed up eventually. And in case anybody else hasn't visited, there are also some tape-tree J-Cards and Robyn-related symbol clip art there in various vector-graphic formats, including the tomato-on-top-of-a-cone thingie. (Of course, most of them are included in the font.) I plan to add J-Cards for Tape Tree #2 within the next several years, and I also plan to switch all the J-Cards to PDF format sometime during the 21st century. (OTOH, we don't want to rush things... Maybe the 22nd century...) >(Its X definition should probably be > --fegmania caps-regular-r-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-iso8859-1 >for those that care.) Personally, I think to *not* care about something like that would be the height of insensitivity! Thanks, Stewart! John H. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 15:18:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Bayard Subject: Re: Robyn Hitchcock handwriting font? On Sun, 3 Oct 1999, Ariel Green wrote: > Didn't someone mention such an animal awhile back? If so, I'd like to know > where I can get it. http://www.alternatech.net/jh3/robyn/default.htm There are some other goodies, too. All hail the mighty jh #3. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 12:29:18 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: Robyn Hitchcock handwriting font? >>(Its X definition should probably be >> --fegmania caps-regular-r-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-iso8859-1 >>for those that care.) OK, I guess I'm just a big poopyhead, because I don't have a clue what the above means. Huh? Eb ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 12:31:32 PDT From: "Anal Oil Leakage" Subject: Re: Glasgow gig oh, man. that's funnier than shit! 10/1/80, looks like. or, if you're scoring in the uk, 1/10/80. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 13:23:17 -0700 From: "Jason R. Thornton" Subject: Yet another freakin' Bowie post OK, OK, OK. I'll shut up about Bowie after this... His new album might (according to Eb) suck, but at least the man is doing good for New York City and British artists: http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/eo/19991004/en/19991004030.html Anyone else (Mark?) find the idea of an art exhibit consisting of a dead shark suspended in a tank of formaldehyde offensive? ;) - --Jason "Only the few know the sweetness of the twisted apples." - Sherwood Anderson ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 16:48:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Bayard Subject: mystery band/online videos i just emailed David at robynhitchcock.com and he wrote back promptly to disclose that the full band accompanying Robyn this tour is "Kimberley and Tim Keegan's band". aka The Band Formerly known as Homer. Perhaps we should call them the Tim Keegan Experience? Hope they play more than a couple songs at the end of the robyn's set. There are some stabs at robyn MPEGs online. take a look and let me know what you think, how to make them better, etc. Includes the long-promised Soft Boys video. Check out the energetic and cheerful Mr Rew! http://glasshotel.net/gh/theatre.htm =b ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 17:03:26 -0400 (EDT) From: Bayard Subject: Re: fletcher's, 10/27/99 (Baltic morons) So who is going to the Baltimore gig besides Eddie and myself? I will have my Baltimore connections procure tickets for us. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 16:16:32 -0500 From: "JH3" Subject: Re: Yet another freakin' Bowie post From: Jason R. Thornton : >http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/eo/19991004/en/19991004030.html >Anyone else (Mark?) find the idea of an art exhibit consisting of a >dead shark suspended in a tank of formaldehyde offensive? ;) It's all a big tie-in, if you ask me. Bowie recently appeared in a segment of a Showtime Original Movie called "The Hunger" (no relation to the 1983 "The Hunger" which he also starred in and which heavily featured "Bela Lugosi's Dead" and other goth classics on the soundtrack) as an artist who's famous for displaying dead creatures in tanks of formaldehyde. Basically what happens is that Giovanni Ribisi tries to kill him in his studio; he manages to turn the tables on him by injecting him with some drugs and filling him up with formaldehyde and wrapping him in gauze to be displayed in a big tank, but when the police arrive later and unwrap the body, it's... David Bowie himself! He was actually committing suicide the whole time! What a bunch of clever fellows these screenwriters are... John H. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 15:48:38 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Yet another freakin' Bowie post On 10/4/99 1:23 PM, Jason R. Thornton wrote: >Anyone else (Mark?) find the idea of an art exhibit consisting of a dead >shark suspended in a tank of formaldehyde offensive? ;) Yes - San Jose hockey fans. - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 16:01:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: Yet another freakin' Bowie post Tom Clark wrote: > On 10/4/99 1:23 PM, Jason R. Thornton wrote: > > >Anyone else (Mark?) find the idea of an art exhibit > consisting of a dead > >shark suspended in a tank of formaldehyde offensive? ;) > > Yes - San Jose hockey fans. actually, that's more a description of the teams playing history..... ===== "America's greatest natural resource, still, to this day, is the moron" --Martin Mull __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 19:31:32 -0400 (EDT) From: dmw Subject: shameless washington dc self promotion after some last minute panicking, feckless beast are all systems go!! for a one-two bunch of dc-area shows. come see why even people who dissed us are conceding that we are much improved, hear a new tune or two, meet my new guitar rig. ("crowd, this is my new guitar rig...new guitar rig, this is the crowd...") saturday october 9 black cat 14th&t nw wash dc, with yuma house and lesbian boy. $6 bucks. please come help make this 500-capacity club look not-quite-empty. we're up first at 10; the clean-cut, melodic poprock of yuma house (think lemonheads/pavement/buffalo tom/replacements) takes over at 11, and our chums lesbian boy (funny punk songs like "satan stole my muscle car"") close things out at midnight. monday october 11 galaxy hut, 2711 wilson blvd, arlington, with allwreck FREE SHOW allwreck (who we don't know) are up first, we're on at about 10:30. this is the first time we've ever polluted virginia with our noxious presence, so come mitigate our influence. what: eclectic indie rock with a few too many words; happy little loony tunes of angst, guilt, fear and betrayal. you can hear a demo that we're dissatisfied with at www.fecklessbeast.com/music/secret.html - -- d. - - oh no, you've just read mail from doug = dmw@radix.net - get yr pathos - - www.pathetic-caverns.com -- books, flicks, tunes, etc. = reviews - - www.fecklessbeast.com -- angst, guilt, fear, betrayal! = guitar pop ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 17:56:50 -0600 From: hal brandt Subject: Re: mystery band Bayard wrote: > the full band accompanying Robyn this tour is "Kimberley > and Tim Keegan's band". Hope they play more than a > couple songs at the end of the robyn's set. I hope they treat us to some brand new songs as well. The UK setlists were disappointing in that regard. /hal ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 19:58:24 -0400 (EDT) From: Terrence M Marks Subject: 30 years of Monty Python Check out the BBC newslink. http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/special_report/1999/10/99/monty_python/newsid_463000/463024.stm Terrence Marks Unlike Minerva (a comic strip) http://grove.ufl.edu/~normal normal@grove.ufl.edu ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 Oct 1999 02:21:48 -0400 From: "*twofangs..aka..randi*" Subject: from randi - smile - for this made me feel better click click .................................................. http://www.hampsterdance.com/ ................................................. please - check it out - maybe it's just 'cause i haven't had sex or i've just missed feg-digests so much - but it's - well - judge for yourselves :-} Me - pain, sick, tired, pain, fever, tired, pain, blood, tired - and annoying too! hoping i can get to a robyn show hoping / trying to get better each day in the hospital kinda makes it worse - depression, live/die ratios, feeling sick, the pain being so g-ddda-m unrelenting. grrr. argh. see - plus i do the self-pity crap too - i hate that! but i swear I'm trying hard, after all, what scares you most will set you free, Love Randi *down with the bedclothes ... up with the night shirt ... fiddle about ... fiddle about ... fiddle about! ... you won't shout as i fiddle about* ~ john entwistle ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V8 #374 *******************************