From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V8 #356 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Monday, September 20 1999 Volume 08 : Number 356 Today's Subjects: ----------------- uh, ps [Eb ] just in case anyone's home right now.... [Eb ] If only it *were* imaginary... [Natalie Jacobs ] Really For Bayard, But Thought Everyone Would Get A Kick Out of.... [lj l] not quite a whee(tm), but... [Eb ] interesting news for you bootleg types.... [Eb ] re: music tapes [Stewart Russell 3295 Analyst_Programmer ] Re: it should have been David Byrne or someone [Patrick Cleasby ] RE: Richard Thompson, Office Manager? [Michael R Godwin ] Winchester gig, albums [toby ] Invisible History [Bayard ] Re: Invisible History [Capuchin ] Re: Invisible History [Bayard ] Effective Songwriting Technique 101 ["JH3" ] Re: Effective Songwriting Technique 101 [Bayard ] Giving eBay the boot... ["Thomas, Ferris" ] Re: Effective Drum'n'Bass Technique 101 ["Jason R. Thornton" ] Re: mecha-streisand (two Very Important Questions) [Aaron Mandel ] Re: Effective Drum'n'Bass Technique 101 [Christopher Gross Subject: uh, ps For clarity purposes, I should've said at "5 pm EST," not "in 25 minutes." Eb ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Sep 1999 13:36:27 -0800 From: Eb Subject: just in case anyone's home right now.... In 25 minutes, VH1 will show the new video for the Beatles' "Hey Bulldog," including never-before-seen footage of John and Paul recording the song in the studio. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Sep 1999 19:06:15 -0400 (EDT) From: Natalie Jacobs Subject: If only it *were* imaginary... >PS If it's not already obvious, I share Shane's indignation over the >Music Tapes album. And to think that the band's press info tried to hype >the disc on the basis of it being mixed at Abbey Road Studios...grr. Grr indeed. I'm just glad I didn't have to spend any money in order to hear the album (I listened to it at the station). I made it to track 6 before giving up - although I played track 9 today on my show to see if it still sucked. As King Crimson might say, "It did!" Methinks Mr. Koster should stick to playing second fiddle (or saw, rather) to those more talented than himself. >And I would like to publicly state that, while Eddie may be *my* >HERO, I think he himself needs a better choice of heroes. I'd go for >Natalie or something if I were you. But wait - Eddie is my hero too! Can we form a mutual admiration society? n. (so if woj is evil, that means that I, as the antiwoj, am good...) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Sep 1999 20:09:15 -0400 From: lj lindhurst Subject: Really For Bayard, But Thought Everyone Would Get A Kick Out of.... http://www.w-rabbit.com/lobsterwomen.html * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * LJ Lindhurst White Rabbit Graphic Design http://www.w-rabbit.com NYC ljl@w-rabbit.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * "Every head is a head and there is no head which is not suitable for any creature." --Amos Tutuola ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Sep 1999 21:55:33 -0800 From: Eb Subject: not quite a whee(tm), but... ...god DAMN! GET the new Quasi album, Field Studies. I was an enthusiastic fan of the other three Quasi albums, but this one's easily the best. Better harmonies, more consistent songwriting, a new knack for big Lennon-esque balladry, less overwrought proggy song structures and less grating keyboard textures too. Great stuff! May actually bound into my #4 of the year slot. Far better than I expected (now there's a novelty for 1999). Put it this way: If I still had a radio show, there is exactly *one* of these songs which I wouldn't want to play on the air. Oh, and get this: Sam Coombs has a new publishing company. Name: Filthy Gondola Music. Woo! Beautiful. Eb, sorry he waited two weeks to play the disc! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 00:30:56 -0800 From: Eb Subject: interesting news for you bootleg types.... Dear eBay Community: For some time, we've been reviewing our policies on the sale of software and music on CD-R (compact disk-recordable), backup software and 35mm & 70mm movie prints (those big reels in the movie theatres) on eBay. In examining the sale of these items, we've found some instances where users lawfully sell software and music on CD-R, and backup software. That's why we 've permitted these items to be listed on eBay to date. However, we've been contacted by government agencies investigating piracy on the Internet, copyright owners, as well as concerned users about the sale of these items. These constituencies are concerned that most CD-Rs and backup copies are being sold in violation of the rights of a copyright owner. The truth is unless you are the copyright owner, our experience is that the sale of a large number of these items is unauthorized and therefore infringing. After months of internal debate and discussions with our community, we will have to disallow these items to be listed on eBay, except where the seller is the copyright owner. We believe that this will best serve the goal of providing a long-term, sustainable marketplace for our community to do business. We understand that some users will be disappointed by this decision, and we're not happy about having to make it either. Our goal when creating these policies is to provide guidance that will help protect buyers and sellers from liability, encourage responsible trading, and avoid any potentially unlawful sales on eBay. Since a policy like this will impact those of you who have legitimately bought and sold these items on eBay in the past, we want to discuss it with you. We'll be hosting a Q&A session on Wednesday, September 22, 1999 from 10:00 - 11:00 PDT on the Discuss eBay's Newest Features board. We'll be prepared to answer your questions as well as to give you an opportunity to suggest how we might make these policies clearer and easier to understand. Please take a look at the policies, which will be effective on October 17, 1999 at: Software on CD-R http://pages.ebay.com/help/community/upcoming-software-cdr.html Music on CD-R http://pages.ebay.com/help/community/upcoming-music-cdr.html Backup Software http://pages.ebay.com/help/community/upcoming-software-backup.html 35mm & 70mm Movie Prints http://pages.ebay.com/help/community/upcoming-prints.html Each of the policies also contains a link to a Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) page, which answers some of primary questions you might have about these policies. Thanks for your understanding and cooperation. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 09:20:29 +0100 (BST) From: Stewart Russell 3295 Analyst_Programmer Subject: re: music tapes >>>>> "Shane" == Shane Apple writes: Shane> do yourself a big favor Shane> and don't move another inch closer to that music tapes Shane> album. It has a certain naive charm. It's a concept album, with a strong narrative thread. I like it; not a huge amount, but enough to listen and be a/(be)mused every couple of weeks. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 02:12:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: eb all over the world Terrence M Marks wrote: > On Sat, 18 Sep 1999, Capitalism Blows wrote: >> "In one case, pressure from network officials this >> past season forced the show's producers to alter a >> line about the Catholic church when a program >> aired in rerun this summer." >> >> anybody know anything about this? > > It's in "Sunday, Cruddy Sunday" > http://www.snpp.com/episodes/AABF08 > Here's the script for the offending bit. >% A lone blue automobile drives down a deserted >% road. When it reaches a tiny two-pump gas station, >% a man steps out. Seeing no one else around, he beeps >% his horn. >% The door to the station pops open; three >% minimally-clothed young women step out as ZZ Top's >% "Legs" plays, sans vocals. After a bit of posing >% and wiggling, they go to work cleaning and gassing >% up his car, until the man notices a cross hanging >% around the neck of the blonde. A voice-over says, >% "The Catholic Church. We've made a few ... changes." >% Marge, Lisa, and Maggie sit on the couch, watching >% all of this on TV. "These Super Bowl commercials are >% weird," Lisa concludes. is it just me, or did the little parody seem more like a _defense_ of the catholic church's refusal to give in to being trendy for the sake of increasing attendence/ membership etc but showing an extreme example of what could happen if it did give in to all its critics about the lack of "modernness" of the church. that in a backhanded way, it was a tribute to the catholic church's heirarchy willingness to stick to its principals, no matter how unpopular they may be. not an endorsement of the church itself or of some of its probably outdated structures, but of its methods. === "America's greatest natural resource, still, to this day, is the moron" --Martin Mull __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 10:55:51 +0100 From: Patrick Cleasby Subject: Re: it should have been David Byrne or someone At 16:27 19/09/99 -0400, you wrote: >which reminds me - does anyone here know if Music for the Knee Plays has >ever come out on CD? How about the OST for True Stories - has that ever been on CD? Patrick ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 09:14:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Capuchin Subject: But it should have been David Byrne or somebody On Mon, 20 Sep 1999, Patrick Cleasby wrote: > How about the OST for True Stories - has that ever been on CD? OK. Here's my issue: From what I understand, there were three soundtracks to this album. Talking Heads, True Stories. This is the album of Talking Heads doing the songs from the movie. Sounds From the Film True Stories. (Or a similar title) and that's the songs that aren't David Byrne's played by the original artists. And finally, the elusive: True Stories Original Motion Picture Soundtrack. This supposedly has all the songs David Byrne wrote sung by the actors that sing them in the film. I've never seen this, but I've heard it in a car... so did this guy just dub the video or what? Gah! Oh, and I just read some guy's web page all about Talking Heads and he insists that David Byrne started holding the band back in 1980... and that the real talents were Frantz, Weymouth and Harrison. (He also refers to Gordon Gano's Contribution to the No Talking, Just Head album and says "which just proves what no-talents the Violent Femmes really are". I find that position pretty much indefensible.) Back to sleep. J. PS. Drove to work today. I don't feel clean. I've never singley commuted before. - -- ________________________________________________________ J A Brelin Capuchin ________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 10:27:29 -0600 From: hal brandt Subject: Waits on TV Look for Tom Waits on Letterman next Monday (27 Sep). I just got tix for both Denver shows...5th row center the second night. Can't wait, /hal ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 17:20:41 +0100 (BST) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: RE: Richard Thompson, Office Manager? > >has anybody ever heard the rumor that R.T. has a one room office space > >in some city that has just a desk? On Sat, 18 Sep 1999, Eb wrote: > A whole city, with only one piece of furniture? That's sad. :( Do You Ever Feel Lonely? by Ivor Cutler Do you ever feel lonely? Of course you do Then think about Billy He's lonely too Lives in a city Population: one - - MRG ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 13:28:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Christopher Gross Subject: Re: But it should have been David Byrne or somebody On Mon, 20 Sep 1999, Capuchin wrote: > PS. Drove to work today. I don't feel clean. I've never singley > commuted before. Whereas me, I got a free cup of yogurt for using public transportation today! Courtesy of www.oneearth.org, according to the lid. I should have told them that I walked to the Metro station (~1.5 miles), maybe they would have given me some toast too.... - --Clean Chris ______________________________________________________________________ Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 10:44:23 -0700 (PDT) From: "Andrew D. Simchik" Subject: mecha-streisand (two Very Important Questions) > From: Eb > > Columbia Records is mass-mailing copies of the new Barbra > Streisand album > and the new Iron Maiden compilation in the same package. My guess would be that it's the "cult artists" shipment. :) But seriously, folks...I have two questions for you all. Some are multi-part questions, so really I have more... 1) Are any of you into emo or "emocore"? How would you define the genre? How would you recognize it? It sounds to me like a bunch of suburban white teenagers all endlessly covering the Smashing Pumpkins' first album but leaving out the psychedelia and the hooks, while wailing tunelessly over it all because they don't know it's possible to express angst using melody? A couple of my pals at the college station are real emo queens and I just can't relate. What am I missing? And are Victory at Sea emo? Is emo like goth -- in the ear of the beholder? 2) I'm inferring from what I read here and what I don't read here that at least some of you write and perform your own songs. I'd guess that many if not most of you are writing guitar-based songs. So: I've been trying to put my writing skills (versatile) and my vocal skills (often complimented) and my guitar skills (rudimentary at best, to be polite) together with my compositional skills (completely clueless) in hopes of getting one or two decent songs out the other end. How in the hell do I go about it? Let me elaborate. Maybe you'll tell me that some level of instrumental skill is going to make this much easier. I'm hoping I can write first and improve as I go, because I'm not *totally* pathetic now. But that still leaves my compositional skills. I have no idea where to begin. I've got a number of riffs and chord sequences and things that suggest moods and other possibilities to me, stuff that would serve as a basis for something. I have no lyrics and can't begin to write any that I can accept. When I try to put melodies over my chords and riffs, nothing I come up with sounds natural or original or interesting. Like many/most people, I'm good at adding harmonies or countermelodies to existing songs, or writing new lyrics for existing songs, but writing my own is not happening. Let's leave aside the possibility that I'm a no-talent or, to be kinder, that I'm not cut out to write my own songs and should stick to covers. It may be true, but there's no harm in trying, and I don't need advice in how to give up. So what I'm asking is: when you write songs, where do they begin? How do you start? Do you hum melodies to yourself and then work them up into songs? Do you start with lyrics and add music? Do you start with chords or riffs or figures and improvise over them until you get something? Do you have any suggestions about how I could practice, and get the juices flowing, or refine the skills, or whatever angle you want to take? Thanks in advance for sharing, Drew === Andrew D. Simchik, schnopia@yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 13:54:32 -0400 From: lj lindhurst Subject: Randi + questions Hey, I am sending Randi some cards and such-- does anyone know what the deal is with postage to Canada? I basically loaded up the envelope with 33 cent stamps, thinking the USPS would do anything for enough money... And I think it's a great idea to pool our money to get her a laptop. What a nice idea, Eddie! You can count me in... is she a Mac person or an IBM person? l * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * LJ Lindhurst White Rabbit Graphic Design http://www.w-rabbit.com NYC ljl@w-rabbit.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * "Every head is a head and there is no head which is not suitable for any creature." --Amos Tutuola ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 19:48:52 +0100 (BST) From: toby Subject: Winchester gig, albums Apparently the Winchester gig has been changed from an all-seater to an all-stander, due to ticket demand; I guess it might be advisable to buy tickets in advance. I saw reasonably priced copies of Invisible Hitchcock and the Philip Glass soundtrack to the film called something like "Koyaanquasati" today; are they worth having? Invisible Hitchcock looks great, but I'm a bit worried that it's going to be ruined by that those horrible 80s synths. toby PS If anyone wants to say hi at the Dingwalls gig, I'll probably be the only person there with pink hair. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 14:59:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Bayard Subject: Invisible History On Mon, 20 Sep 1999, toby wrote: > they worth having? Invisible Hitchcock looks great, but I'm a bit worried > that it's going to be ruined by that those horrible 80s synths. I've been living with a CD dub of this for a week or two, and really enjoying it. It was given to me by a kind feg, as I do not buy "'legs". Please note that high quality MP3's of this and other non-authorized releases are on my MP3 server for the very reason that i don't want you to buy them! Beat the boots! =b ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 12:10:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: Invisible History On Mon, 20 Sep 1999, Bayard wrote: > On Mon, 20 Sep 1999, toby wrote: > > they worth having? Invisible Hitchcock looks great, but I'm a bit worried > > that it's going to be ruined by that those horrible 80s synths. > I've been living with a CD dub of this for a week or two, and really > enjoying it. It was given to me by a kind feg, as I do not buy "'legs". > Please note that high quality MP3's of this and other non-authorized > releases are on my MP3 server for the very reason that i don't want you to > buy them! > Beat the boots! Are you guys confusing Invisible Hitchcock and Invisible History again? I think so. J. - -- ________________________________________________________ J A Brelin Capuchin ________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 15:16:53 -0400 (EDT) From: Bayard Subject: Re: Invisible History > Are you guys confusing Invisible Hitchcock and Invisible History again? hey, i know what i'm talking about. it just doesn't happen to be what toby's talking about. =b ps. i like invisible hitchcock a lot. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 14:34:59 -0500 From: "JH3" Subject: Effective Songwriting Technique 101 Technically, both "Invisible Hitchcock" and "Invisible History" are generally free of cheesy 80's synths. So let's move on to this other thread: >I've got a number of riffs and chord sequences and things >that suggest moods and other possibilities to me, stuff >that would serve as a basis for something. There's always trance, house, acid-house, acid-trance-house, etc., y'know. >I have no lyrics and can't begin to write any that I can accept. This is my own problem, at least in the last 10 years or so. Very difficult to come up with good lyrics, but a lot of it is just a matter of necessity. The lyrics I wrote when I was actually *finishing* my own tunes were just as bad as the stuff I did after I stopped being able to finish them, but because I *had* to finish them, I did, warts and all. >When I try to put melodies over my chords and riffs, >nothing I come up with sounds natural or original or >interesting. And the more music you hear, the worse it gets, right? You just have to forget about that - it's the only way. Remember that several billion zillion songs have probably been written in the history of mankind, you can't hear *all* of them, and at least one of them is probably going to sound like what you've just come up with, so there's not much point in worrying about originality, at least at the "embryonic" stage. >So what I'm asking is: when you write songs, where do >they begin? How do you start? Do you hum melodies >to yourself and then work them up into songs? Do you >start with lyrics and add music? Do you start with >chords or riffs or figures and improvise over them until >you get something? For me, it was always both #1 and #3, but never #2. I never knew anyone personally who wrote tunes over pre-existing lyrics. (Elton John does that, I suppose, but I've never met the man.) >Do you have any suggestions about >how I could practice, and get the juices flowing, or >refine the skills, or whatever angle you want to take? Any suggestion I might have would probably violate the "don't be discouraging" rule... Noodling at home with a gee-tar can be fun, or at least relaxing; writing finished songs that are ready for the studio is not - it's hard work and often very frustrating. You've got to have a legitimate project and some expectation that the finished product is going to be used for something, or heard by people, or both. Otherwise you won't be motivated enough to get it done. That's just my opinion, of course... John "Fear My Brane" Hedges ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 15:41:48 -0400 (EDT) From: Bayard Subject: Re: Effective Songwriting Technique 101 On Mon, 20 Sep 1999, JH3 wrote: > Technically, both "Invisible Hitchcock" and "Invisible History" > are generally free of cheesy 80's synths. even the disco remix of "kingdom of love"? that's what got me confused... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 15:46:13 -0400 From: "Thomas, Ferris" Subject: Giving eBay the boot... Fegopinion wanted..... If you look at eBay's proposed policy (found at http://pages.ebay.com/help/community/upcoming-music-cdr.html) it seems they may have to change quite a few things. They state in an example that: A hypothetical band records and sells an "....album on CD-R on eBay to Katie. This is permissible because the band is the copyright owner of the music. Katie now wants to resell the music on CD-R on eBay. The music on CD-R is 'lawful music,' but Katie (or anyone other than the band) is not permitted to list this item on eBay." If they were to draw the line here, wouldn't the resale of any CD be banned on eBay? If they're going to stop the sale of pre-recorded CD-Rs, shouldn't they also cut off sales of all pre-recorded materials, LP, cassette, and CD? Discuss among yourselves. > _________________________________________ > Ferris Scott Thomas > programmer > > (860) 409-2612 > McGraw-Hill Technology Division > Farmington, CT > mailto:ferris_thomas@mcgraw-hill.com (work) > mailto:ferris@snet.net (home) > http://pages.cthome.net/hellhollow/ > Find out the cause of this effect, Or rather say, the cause of this defect, For this effect defective comes by cause. Shakespeare. Hamlet, Act ii. Sc. 2 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 12:57:51 -0700 From: "Jason R. Thornton" Subject: Re: Effective Drum'n'Bass Technique 101 At 02:34 PM 9/20/99 -0500, JH3 wrote: >There's always trance, house, acid-house, acid-trance-house, >etc., y'know. I was talking to a girl Saturday night who's a DJ on World Music Radio, which actually has nothing to do with radiowaves at all, and "broadcasts" only over the internet. She hosts an "electronia" -- for lack of a better term -- show one evening a week. I asked her what kind of stuff she plays, and completely lost her by the second "-hop." Jason, who owns a Roland R-70 drum machine but is still confused by the distinction between "drum'n'bass" and "jungle" "Only the few know the sweetness of the twisted apples." - Sherwood Anderson ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 15:05:33 -0500 From: "JH3" Subject: Cheesy 80's Synths Alarm >> Technically, both "Invisible Hitchcock" and "Invisible History" >> are generally free of cheesy 80's synths. >even the disco remix of "kingdom of love"? that's what got me >confused... I've always thought those sounded more like carnival organs than anything you'd hear on "Speak and Spell," but I suppose it's a legitimate point. (I rather like that version, actually...) John "I did say *generally*" Hedges ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 16:08:14 -0400 (EDT) From: Aaron Mandel Subject: Re: mecha-streisand (two Very Important Questions) On Mon, 20 Sep 1999, Andrew D. Simchik wrote: > 1) Are any of you into emo or "emocore"? How would you > define the genre? How would you recognize it? that question is, as they say, ten pounds of worms in a five-pound can. five-pound open can. something like that, is what they say. distract yourself momentarily from the mental image of worms crawling all over Jeremy Enigk and have a look at this handy list: Some Things That Some People Call(ed) Emo Within Earshot Of Me - - mid-80s hardcore punk like Rites Of Spring. instead of being abrupt and political like Minor Threat, these bands wrote about their personal pain and sing-screamed over loose (but furious) riffy guitar lines. - - early 90s Seattle-area pop. the Spinanes, for instance; emotional, even heartwarming lyrics with spare arrangements. - - mid-90s midwestern hardcore punk, which had a lot of screaming but brough back in the total incompetence of early punk rock. Braid, Cap'n Jazz... CJ in particular always sounded like they were no more likely to commit suicide than to just keel over from the sheer incongruity of them being in the same room with musical instruments. (maybe it was all intentional. i couldn't say.) - - late-90s everything. i am starting to suspect that some people say "emo" when they mean "indie". there's the Albini-esque math-rock (which i don't listen to much, but i *think* Victory At Sea is one of them); the incoherent screaming (Behead The Prophet No Lord Shall Live -- ugh); the slow sad pop (Very Secretary, Bedhead, Low, Codeine); the angular, Gang Of 4-y art-punk (Wicked Farleys, We Ragazzi); the really dull Fugazi wannabes (too many to list and i can never remember them anyway); the super-pretentious stuff that sounds like a mixture of the first two things on the list but without melodies (recent Joan Of Arc, The Promise Ring) and MUCH MORE, including so many combinations of the above that my descriptions should be considered a hint to the many axes on which emo rotates simultaneously, not a list of separate genres. i personally like some of it; Sarge, The Shyness Clinic and Rainer Maria played a show together this spring and i had a great time. Sarge sound like Talulah Gosh (i.e. punk Heavenly), The Shyness Clinic have the shuffling NW rhythms and the right balance of melody with soothing repetition, and Rainer Maria, though screamy, do things with the male/female vocal interplay and the soft/loud shifts, like a more spastic Versus. > What am I missing? find a record you like with at least two sources who corroborate that it's "emo". defend "real emo" (i.e. it) against everyone else. you are now an emo fan. the sweaters seem to be optional. wait, i forgot the Galaxy 500-influenced great plains emo... but who cares? note: it could be that 90% of people who talk about emo agree on what it is and i have this fuzzy perspective because i see too much stuff flying by without listening repeatedly to all of it. however, i firmly believe that some vagueness in the definition has fueled the boom in popularity. aaron ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 16:25:35 -0400 From: "Thomas, Ferris" Subject: Storefront promo... Hey, all. A friend of mine here at work was up in Northampton (MA) this past weekend and was flipping through the offerings at a record shop when he came across an album advance for Storefront and picked it up for me. Is there any difference between this and the regular release? I'm more than thirty miles from my copy right now, so I can't check it. It's album advance 2-46846-AB and the tracklisting seems pretty danged consistent with the CD release. > _________________________________________ > Ferris Scott Thomas > programmer > > (860) 409-2612 > McGraw-Hill Technology Division > Farmington, CT > mailto:ferris_thomas@mcgraw-hill.com (work) > mailto:ferris@snet.net (home) > http://pages.cthome.net/hellhollow/ > Find out the cause of this effect, Or rather say, the cause of this defect, For this effect defective comes by cause. Shakespeare. Hamlet, Act ii. Sc. 2 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 16:37:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Christopher Gross Subject: Re: Effective Drum'n'Bass Technique 101 On Mon, 20 Sep 1999, Jason R. Thornton wrote: > Jason, who owns a Roland R-70 drum machine but is still confused by > the distinction between "drum'n'bass" and "jungle" A week or two ago I was in Tower Records, leafing idly through a book, when I saw this definition: "house" is electronic dance music with a 4/4 beat, while "drum 'n' bass" is electronic dance music without a 4/4 beat. This would make jungle a subset of drum'n'bass. I'm not sure that I agree with this division, so I mention it as one possibility, rather than the dogmatic truth I usually propagate. - --Chris ______________________________________________________________________ Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V8 #356 *******************************