From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V8 #355 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Sunday, September 19 1999 Volume 08 : Number 355 Today's Subjects: ----------------- re: music tapes ["Shane Apple" ] Re: They've got the best Beatles & Libyrinths & smack! ["Capitali] eb all over the world ["Capitalism Blows" ] Re: hi from randi - a bobby pin and a credit card ;-} ["Capitalism Blows"] Re: They've got the best Beatles & Libyrinths & smack! [Eb ] it should have been David Byrne or someone [James Dignan ] signs of the apocalypse [Eb ] RE: Richard Thompson naked sighting Seattle! [delia winthorpe ] Re: eb all over the world, Randi bit, me bit.... [Mark_Gloster@3com.com] Re: it should have been David Byrne or someone [The Great Quail ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1999 19:47:45 GMT From: "Shane Apple" Subject: re: music tapes >Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 10:05 +0000 >From: mrrunion@palmnet.net >Subject: Music Tapes > >Hey, > >Okay, someone help me out here. I've only been haphazardly reading >the >various comments and reviews of the Music Tapes "69 Love Songs" >album. Is >this thing out yet? While stumbling through the local >mall Camelot (after >getting a haircut finally) and finding nothing >(duh, but they did have a >copy of NMH, so that was good), I browsed >through their Muze for Music >computer thing. It came up with a 1999 >Music Tapes release called "First >Imaginery Symphony For Nomad". No >reference to "69 Love Songs". Didn't >find any more info at CDNOW >either. oh god no! stop what your doing! do yourself a big favor and don't move another inch closer to that music tapes album. if you did accidentally buy that (as i did), it'd be the worst mistake you make all year. *unrealized unfinished piece of junk for nomad* (it's in a box in a uhaul so i don't have the exact title) is the worst album i've heard all year (a 2.7 on my scale), and everytime i've listened to it, i've thought, "what the heck did nomad do to deserve this?" generally, a collection of goofy noises with songs mixed in would be intriguing, but there is absolutely no meat to this disc at all. it's juvenile and very nearly unlistenable. go buy u.s. maple's *talker* instead if you're looking for something difficult but tasty. you should probably stay away from camelot too. a fat guy with bad complexion might convince you to buy that unkle cd and tell you that the tiger lillies sound like matchbox 20 (inside joke). - --shane ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1999 13:23:45 PDT From: "Capitalism Blows" Subject: Re: They've got the best Beatles & Libyrinths & smack! that was a JOKE!!! a joke, joke, joke, joke, joke, joke, joke. i *wholeheartedly* apologise for any gnashing of teeth i may have caused on the quail's end. and i'd like to publicly state that the quail is, and probably always will be, my HERO. and i don't consider you a sellout. and i think what you're doing with the site is VERY cool. however, i can't believe you received absolutely zero chiding for NOT OWNING ANY BEATLES ALBUMS PRIOR TO THIS WEEK!?!?! From: The Great Quail Reply-To: The Great Quail To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Subject: They've got the best Beatles & Libyrinths & smack! Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 10:40:25 -0400 Eddie writes, >and next comes the smack habit. and then we start seeing ads on >www.libyrinth.com. "sigh", indeed. This is the second time someone mentioned my extravagant spending as being a symptom of a new job. Hmmm. Hardly! This does mean, however, that I may actually *pay* the credit card debt in some time under a year! (I remember in college, running up a credit card with as many Hawkwind imports I could find! I did the same with Robyn.) (In fact, I may still be paying part of that off.) (I should be allowed nowhere *near* a credit card.) Oh, yeah, and I already have a smack habit. But I prefer goofballs. And thirdly, I might as well prepare you -- since the Libyrinth is a business and my job now, there will probably be targeted advertising to generate revenue until we can get revenue from other sources, such as educational institutions, publishers, and a host of other ideas more tasteful than advertising. Have I sold out? Um . . . duh. On the other hand, I go from barely holding together a bunch of pages on the occasional weekend, answering tons of emails from people saying "when are you going to fix Kafka, add Auster or Rushdie, or take a day to edit my submission on Gaddis?", all the while I slave away from someone else, laying out asinine and offensive pages about fur coats and diamonds and hating my job; to having the resources to work full time on my obsession and my passion, all the while expanding it to include a whole mess of new authors, new directions, and new functionality. I should be able top actually *add* new authors now -- the last one was two years ago! -- not to mention attend conferences, develop sites to feature independent publishers, interview artists, hire editors, proofreaders and stringers, and actually -- and this makes me very happy -- *pay* some people for the work they contribute. Soon I'll have search engines, java-enhanced bonuses, site mapping, special features such as exclusive deals with artists and writers, and a new section where people can log in every day for quotes, links, reviews, and other changing literary-based features. I will also have special sections for teachers and college students. So there's my confession. Believe me, I hate advertising, and I already squawked enough that they know I won't stand for Coca-Cola banners screaming across James Joyce's face. But realistically, if the Libyrinth is going to really become a major site for literature, I have got to compromise at places. I knew that from Day One -- in fact, I was so nervous about making this into a business, I made them build a "Vision Statement" into the contract. And I looked hard and long, and I realized that the Libyrinth had been sort of stagnant. And if I have to make a deal with Mefisto in order to pursue this idea to it's fullest, so be it. (I always thought Faust was a reasonable guy. But why Helen? I would have gone with Salome.) Well, I know this will disappoint Eddie and a few others. And I'm not exactly thrilled, either. But for me, the good *far* outweighs the bad. I knew all that going in, and so far I have never been happier with work. I mean, God, what's happened to me -- I *like* work!!!!! Anyway, feel free to mail me comments, suggestions, copies of Das Kapital, Neil Young records, whatever. . . . - --Quail ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The Great Quail, Keeper of the Libyrinth: http://www.libyrinth.com "His fervour for the written word was an interweaving of solemn respect and gossipy irreverence. . . " --Gabriel García Márquez ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1999 13:29:30 PDT From: "Capitalism Blows" Subject: eb all over the world . it's a poorly written and, considering the subject matter, not very interesting article about The Simpsons and religion. it almost seems as if the show is way over the heads of the author and many other folks as well. one thing that did catch my eye, though: "In one case, pressure from network officials this past season forced the show's producers to alter a line about the Catholic church when a program aired in rerun this summer." anybody know anything about this? ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1999 13:40:09 PDT From: "Capitalism Blows" Subject: Re: hi from randi - a bobby pin and a credit card ;-} supposing we looked up a reputable online computer retailer, and convinced them to allow us to purchase by committee, and have delivered to randi, a laptop computer? what i mean by that is, if just a few dozen of us authorised them to charge a hundred bucks to our credit cards, then we could send her a pretty decent one, right? maybe they'd want to tack on some sort of "extra special service" charge, which would be fine, i should think. but if we explained the situation to them, perhaps they wouldn't even bother with that. i'm willing to contact somebody and try to make arrangements. but i don't know shit one about buying computers. so someone else will need to recommend a good place to shop. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1999 13:49:02 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: They've got the best Beatles & Libyrinths & smack! Eddie: >and i'd like to publicly state that the quail is, and >probably always will be, my HERO. I thought *I* was your hero. Hmpf. >however, i can't believe you received absolutely zero chiding for NOT OWNING >ANY BEATLES ALBUMS PRIOR TO THIS WEEK!?!?! I did chide him...privately. He *claims* that he already had them on cassette or LP. ;) Meanwhile, I went to a record store which I rarely go to yesterday and found Dub Narcotic Sound System's "Boot Party" and the DGC reissue of Ubu's "The Modern Dance" for $12 *total*, and I'm stoked. On the other hand, Randi's situation is too upsetting to even put into words. Getting the fuck outta Dodge, Eb PS If it's not already obvious, I share Shane's indignation over the Music Tapes album. And to think that the band's press info tried to hype the disc on the basis of it being mixed at Abbey Road Studios...grr. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1999 17:07:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Terrence M Marks Subject: Re: eb all over the world On Sat, 18 Sep 1999, Capitalism Blows wrote: > "In one case, pressure from network officials this past season forced the > show's producers to alter a line about the Catholic church when a program > aired in rerun this summer." > > anybody know anything about this? It's in "Sunday, Cruddy Sunday" http://www.snpp.com/episodes/AABF08 Additionally, Futurama changed the line about the JFK, jr. Airport posthumously. Here's the script for the offending bit. % % A lone blue automobile drives down a deserted road. When it reaches % a tiny two-pump gas station, a man steps out. Seeing no one else % around, he beeps his horn. % % The door to the station pops open; three minimally-clothed young % women step out as ZZ Top's "Legs" plays, sans vocals. After a bit % of posing and wiggling, they go to work cleaning and gassing up his % car, until the man notices a cross hanging around the neck of the % blonde. A voice-over says, "The Catholic Church. We've made a few % ... changes." Marge, Lisa, and Maggie sit on the couch, watching % all of this on TV. "These Super Bowl commercials are weird," Lisa % concludes. Terrence Marks Unlike Minerva (a comic strip) http://grove.ufl.edu/~normal normal@grove.ufl.edu ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Sep 1999 10:29:21 +1200 From: James Dignan Subject: it should have been David Byrne or someone >I've only heard it once so far, so the above comments are based on a >first spin. I don't think it's great -- certainly no "Bush of >Ghosts," and not even a "Catherine Wheel" -- but if you are the type >of David Byrne fan that owns "The Last Emperor" soundtrack and "The >Visible man," then you'll think it's just fine. which reminds me - does anyone here know if Music for the Knee Plays has ever come out on CD? James James Dignan___________________________________ You talk to me Deptmt of Psychology, Otago University As if from a distance ya zhivu v' 50 Norfolk Street And I reply. . . . . . . . . . Dunedin, New Zealand with impressions chosen from another time steam megaphone (03) 455-7807 (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Sep 1999 10:33:46 +1200 From: James Dignan Subject: Re:ap >Did I hear that Charles Crichton died? yup. And Frankie Vaughn. James (who finally succumbed and bought the Lennon anthology box. Y'see, I already have all the Beatles albums (although some of them on vinyl not CD - - have the early albums ever been released on CD in stereo?)) James Dignan___________________________________ You talk to me Deptmt of Psychology, Otago University As if from a distance ya zhivu v' 50 Norfolk Street And I reply. . . . . . . . . . Dunedin, New Zealand with impressions chosen from another time steam megaphone (03) 455-7807 (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1999 15:57:32 -0800 From: Eb Subject: signs of the apocalypse Columbia Records is mass-mailing copies of the new Barbra Streisand album and the new Iron Maiden compilation in the same package. Oy vey.;) Eb np: Air/Premiers Symptomes ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1999 19:55:38 -0700 (PDT) From: delia winthorpe Subject: RE: Richard Thompson naked sighting Seattle! just in case somebody may have missed this info... richard thompson is in seattle tonight...at the king cat theater on 6th avenue... he was in olympia last night and kicked royal arse! d __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1999 20:04:58 -0700 (PDT) From: delia winthorpe Subject: RE: Richard Thompson, Office Manager? and by the way... has anybody ever heard the rumor that R.T. has a one room office space in some city that has just a desk? that when he's not recording or touring he sits at his desk from 9 to 5 writing songs. if it's NOT true, please don't tell - i just absolutely LOVE this image of him. if it is true - you have my permission to confirm. d __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1999 20:21:34 -0800 From: Eb Subject: RE: Richard Thompson, Office Manager? >has anybody ever heard the rumor that R.T. has a one room office space >in some city that has just a desk? A whole city, with only one piece of furniture? That's sad. :( Eb ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1999 22:07:39 -0700 From: Mark_Gloster@3com.com Subject: Re: eb all over the world, Randi bit, me bit.... >On Sat, 18 Sep 1999, Capitalism Blows wrote: >> "In one case, pressure from network officials this past season forced the >> show's producers to alter a line about the Catholic church when a program >> aired in rerun this summer." > >> anybody know anything about this? >It's in "Sunday, Cruddy Sunday" http://www.snpp.com/episodes/AABF08 >Additionally, Futurama changed the line about the JFK, jr. Airport >posthumously. >Here's the script for the offending bit.... Having seen the rerun, I'm reasonably sure that only the word "Catholic" is removed. It doesn't ruin it for me, but slightly lessens the blow. - ---- Talked to Randi today. She sounds like she is staying afloat. We had a really nice chat. She can use all of the warmest feggy feelings we can put out to her right now. I promised that I'd call her from Portland while visiting my feggy pals up there (Wed, Thu?) I think she knows that we think about her every day and that she has great friends here who really care for her. She is anxious to get out of the hospital and she wants to meet us all. - ---- I'm taking some much-needed time away from work. This is the last of my transmissions for a while. I've finished recording my ditty for the next GF and will finish mixing it and record the vocals and mix that of a friend's contribution in two weeks. I think it is getting close to time to crank up the big production machine and get these things goin'. Tomorrow morning D and I will be drivin' up toward P'land and should get there around Wednesday to hang with some great fegpersons. My Sun station will be getting poked and prodded for the next couple of weeks, so I won't see yer emails here. Be extra nice to Bayard while I'm gone. Apologies for sending a somewhat jointed message this time. I will go back to my usual style soon enough. Happies, - -Markg ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Sep 1999 12:22:08 -0400 From: The Great Quail Subject: Re: it should have been David Byrne or someone >which reminds me - does anyone here know if Music for the Knee Plays has >ever come out on CD? No, alas, it has not been released on CD. In fact, even the record and cassette are out of print. LJ taunts me by claiming to own a copy, but then mysteriously forgets where it is every time I want to listen to it. Philip Glass Trivia #35: "Knee Plays," by the way, is a Wilson/Glass coinage for the musically-driven segments between acts of "Einstein on the Beach" that more or less choreographed scene changes. Acting as both preludes and interludes, they all form a separate story of their own while simultaneously contained the musical seeds that were developed in the acts they connected. This has been brought to you by your Philip Glass Announcement Service. We know return you to your regularly scheduled List. - --Quail ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The Great Quail, Keeper of the Libyrinth: http://www.libyrinth.com "His fervour for the written word was an interweaving of solemn respect and gossipy irreverence. . . " --Gabriel García Márquez ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Sep 1999 12:31:46 -0400 From: The Great Quail Subject: Re: They've got the best Beatles & Libyrinths & smack! Eddie panics, >that was a JOKE!!! a joke, joke, joke, joke, joke, joke, joke. OK -- I didn't take it *that* seriously. But nevertheless, advertising on the Libyrinth and other commercial concerns have been weighing on my mind, and a few people have certainly lamented to me what they consider "selling out." So perhaps I overreacted -- I just want things to be up-front and honest. >i *wholeheartedly* apologise for any gnashing of teeth i may have >caused on the quail's end. Gnashing of beaks, actually. And really not too much of that. > and i'd like to publicly state that the quail is, and probably >always will be, my HERO. And I would like to publicly state that, while Eddie may be *my* HERO, I think he himself needs a better choice of heroes. I'd go for Natalie or something if I were you. (But NOT Woj! He's evil!) >and i don't consider you a sellout. and i think what you're doing >with the site is VERY cool. Well, honestly, *thanks!* That means a lot coming from an Eat-the-Stater like yourself! And I promise if I ever get to the point of World Domination (and you know the PoMo literature market is highly lucrative and filled with many opportunities for global power) I will promise to make you Minister of Punk Culture, and I'll even pretend note to notice that you are secretly leading the Resistance Movement. . . . >however, i can't believe you received absolutely zero chiding for >NOT OWNING ANY BEATLES ALBUMS PRIOR TO THIS WEEK!?!?! Um . . . I owned them all on cassette and LP. I always wanted to get them switched over, you know, but it was so expensive, and you are fairly saturated in the Beatles every day, so it didn't really compel me. Which is odd, because I really do LOVE the Beatles. By the way, Eddie -- my CD Burner has still not arrived. After it does, you will get lots of fun things in the mail. I have been listening Largo to death, as well as all the other goodies you sent me! Er, you too, Hal! Yep, some day that CD burner will show up. . . . damn FireWire technology . . . mumble mumble Tom Clark mumble. . . . - --Pirate Quail +---------+---------+---------+---------+---------+---------+---------+ The Great Quail, K.S.C. (riverrun Discordian Society, Kibroth-hattaavah Branch) For fun with postmodern literature, New York vampires, and Fegmania, visit Sarnath: http://www.rpg.net/quail "The people asked, and he brought quails, and satisfied them with the bread of heaven." --Psalms 105:40 (Also see Exodus 16:13 and Numbers 11:31-34 for more starry wisdom) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Sep 1999 13:26:44 PDT From: "Capitalism Blows" Subject: Re: eb all over the world but what was the nature of the "pressure"? From: Terrence M Marks To: Capitalism Blows CC: fegmaniax@smoe.org Subject: Re: eb all over the world Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1999 17:07:41 -0400 (EDT) On Sat, 18 Sep 1999, Capitalism Blows wrote: > "In one case, pressure from network officials this past season forced the > show's producers to alter a line about the Catholic church when a program > aired in rerun this summer." > > anybody know anything about this? It's in "Sunday, Cruddy Sunday" http://www.snpp.com/episodes/AABF08 Additionally, Futurama changed the line about the JFK, jr. Airport posthumously. Here's the script for the offending bit. % % A lone blue automobile drives down a deserted road. When it reaches % a tiny two-pump gas station, a man steps out. Seeing no one else % around, he beeps his horn. % % The door to the station pops open; three minimally-clothed young % women step out as ZZ Top's "Legs" plays, sans vocals. After a bit % of posing and wiggling, they go to work cleaning and gassing up his % car, until the man notices a cross hanging around the neck of the % blonde. A voice-over says, "The Catholic Church. We've made a few % ... changes." Marge, Lisa, and Maggie sit on the couch, watching % all of this on TV. "These Super Bowl commercials are weird," Lisa % concludes. Terrence Marks Unlike Minerva (a comic strip) http://grove.ufl.edu/~normal normal@grove.ufl.edu ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V8 #355 *******************************