From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V8 #350 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Tuesday, September 14 1999 Volume 08 : Number 350 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Just a quick blurb [GlamMonst@aol.com] quickies [puppycakes ] eb all over the world ["Capitalism Blows" ] varia [digja611@student.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan)] it's too late for me to be posting [Natalie Jacobs ] I don't like... [James Dignan ] ONXRT ["Russ Reynolds" ] Re: The long, creeping tentacles of one Robyn H- [Stewart Russell 3295 An] I Thora Hird NASA Clapping ["Tony Blackman" ] Re: Comedies more overrated than Frasier [Paul Christian Glenn ] Let's Call Randi! [**twofangs** {randi} ] Re: Comedies more overrated than Frasier [Eb ] Another thing about Randi... [**twofangs** {randi} ] [Eb ] Re: Comedies more overrated than Frasier [Jeff Dwarf ] I'm back from Isle Royale...I could see Canada! [DDerosa5@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 06:55:34 EDT From: GlamMonst@aol.com Subject: Just a quick blurb Hey fegs!!, just wanted to let the list know that there is a great project out of the Boston area that is VERY Hitchcock influenced and is worth checking out. The band is called "Shecky" and the latest release is called "Yummy"....it's loaded with twisted pop tunes and big guitars and harmonies!!!!!...You can catch a MP3 of a couple of tunes on cdfreedom.com.....Enjoy, Tiny. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 23:39:14 -0400 From: puppycakes Subject: quickies wojjie went a-shoppin'... finally picked up ladybug transistor's _ablemarle sound_ and i think it's really swell. much too short -- i listened to it again immediately just to try to absorb it some more. the subsequent third listen was fully voluntary though. anybody else think the male vocalist sounds like stephen merritt? that last song, "alieda's themse", is gorgeous. i'm sure it's no surprise to anyone that that one features female vocals. also grabbed the minders' _cul-de-sacs & dead ends_ which is engaging but not as immediately gratifying. i suspect, though, that it will get more listens over time and that i'll be keeping an eye out for the new one. (has terry heard this yet? sounds like it's right up his alley.) on the other hand, macha's eponymous debut is fantastic! i'm looking forward to the new one (which is, allegedly, in the mail). other things which are still in limbo-land: rachel's' _selenography_ (which seemed more engaging than previous efforts), pavement's _brighten the corners_ (finally), mr. bungle's _california_ (didn't grab me on the first listen), helium's "no guitars" (finally -- i was bristling about the high price for an ep, but broke down since i've never seen a used copy anywhere), and built to spill's _perfect from now on_ (used; bought on the strength of the first cut which has that lovely guitar drone). and, oh yeah, got veda hille's new album yesterday. mmmmm. woj ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 20:55:04 PDT From: "Capitalism Blows" Subject: eb all over the world when we were in san francisco, jeme was lying down in his jabba the hutt bag and i stepped over him to...do something with my glasses, i think? he made some smartassical remark about how he was so glad i wasn't wearing my sweats with all the holes in the ass that day. i asked if he'd never seen a white man's ass before? he replied that it wasn't that he hadn't, but that...um, i can't remember but that what. i laughed, though, as i recall. hmm. haven't they always been? maybe not his setlists so much, but his shows in general? and not so much *calculated* as, that's his job: to entertain the audience. in truth, his setlists have always been "samey", even during the EYE tour. and he's always told the same stories, or variations of the same stories, several times during the same tour. i see what you're driving at, and i think i agree with you. he's got such an enormous cache of incredible songs to pull from, that it can get disappointing when he trots out the same ones night after night, year after year. the two setlist-free shows at the knitting factory in '97 were two of the best shows of the tour. the few shows at which he played piano last year were some of the best of that tour. the largo shows are always a very special treat. so, yeah, i do find myself wishing that he'd go out without a setlist every night and just wing it. but: 1. this wish stems at least partially from overzealous tape-trading weinerism. if i'd only ever hear one or two gigs a year, who knows if i'd even notice? 2. he *still* puts on an incredible show. it'd be difficult to imagine ever getting tired of seeing him do Glass Hotel live. and he can still toss off some real gems. i'm still reeling from last week's Guildford/Speed Of Things/New Age troika. 3. while you're essentially correct that he's been performing the same show since he went solo in '94, i don't think it's quite fair to compare this phase of his career with the previous phase. because, apart from the EYE tour, he never did mount a solo tour until '94. he played some solo gigs, of course, and even made some very small solo tours. so, what you had was, a one-off tour, for the most part. everything else was with the band. the point being, who knows what an '87 extended solo tour would've looked like? yes, we know what EYE looked like. but that came after years of touring with the band, and it was four more years of touring with the band after that. and even agreeing that robyn was probably at the height of his powers during that tour, looking over the setlists, you certainly don't get the impression that it was completely uncalculated. and one thing we have now that we didn't then was an electric set. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 16:02:13 +1200 From: digja611@student.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) Subject: varia >I don't like the Smiths. >I don't like Phish. >I don't like Julian Cope. >I don't like Radiohead. >I don't like Bauhaus. >I don't like the Church. >I don't like Mercury Rev. >I don't like Depeche Mode. >I don't like Siouxsie & the Banshees. >I don't like the Verve. >I don't like Wilco. Hmmm. God part III. What do you think of La Petomaine? Talking of whom, ISTR that he was listed in one of the "Books of Lists" on David Bowie's list of 10 best entertainers of all time. BTW, if you get the chance and want to see a fun movie set in my hometown, keep an eye out for the possible eventual release overseas of "Scarfies", a fun thriller that's sort of "Shallow Grave down-under" James James Dignan___________________________________ You talk to me Deptmt of Psychology, Otago University As if from a distance ya zhivu v' 50 Norfolk Street And I reply. . . . . . . . . . Dunedin, New Zealand with impressions chosen from another time steam megaphone (03) 455-7807 (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 00:08:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Natalie Jacobs Subject: it's too late for me to be posting >"Grating" may be in the ear of the listener. But "cold" -- I don't see >or hear that at all. I honestly can't get past the clever-clever posturing to find much of anything in Momus's music, much less "humanity" or what have you. Some of his songs are really hilarious, and he's got some good tunes and turns of phrase, but why Miles and Susan seem to think he's some sort of reincarnation of Oscar Wilde, brimming with wit and profundity, I have no idea. *shrug* >Man! What little I've heard of NMH sounds one hell of a lot less sincere >than Andy Partridge. Uh, I meant John "Sincerity cancels art" Partridge. And them's fightin' words... n. was playing: The Magnetic Fields, 69 Love Songs promo sampler. Yow! Looks like I'm gonna be shelling out $32 for that box set... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 16:11:08 +1200 From: James Dignan Subject: I don't like... >> I don't like Paul Kelly. now here's where I could do with some clarification. I know of at least two Paul Kellys who have put out CDs. One a very country artists from the states (I think), the other an Australian who sounds like a more serious down under variant on Robyn Hitchcock. Personally, I dislike the first, like the second (and recommend y'all listen his greatest hits package 'Songs of the South") Well, Ebby ol'buddy, which Paul Kelly is it? >> I don't like Magnetic Fields. one of Jean Michel Jarre's better albums, that. James (nursing a bruised arm which has reduced his typing speed about 60%) James Dignan___________________________________ You talk to me Deptmt of Psychology, Otago University As if from a distance ya zhivu v' 50 Norfolk Street And I reply. . . . . . . . . . Dunedin, New Zealand with impressions chosen from another time steam megaphone (03) 455-7807 (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 21:25:20 -0700 From: "Russ Reynolds" Subject: ONXRT Anyone have a copy of "ONXRT Live From The Archives, Volume 1." they'd be willing to part with? Will make it worth your while. eMail me off list. - -rUss ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 08:57:13 +0100 (BST) From: Stewart Russell 3295 Analyst_Programmer Subject: Re: The long, creeping tentacles of one Robyn H- >>>>> "Scott" == Scott Hunter McCleary writes: Scott> "Anglepoise Lampshade." Ray Larabie doesn't look far beyond his desk to name his fonts. I have an Anglepoise on mine. Scott> trilobite icons There's a millennium history nonsense-thing in Edinburgh that has a TV advert where a guy morphs all the way back to protozoan. One of the distinct stages is a trilobite, which clicks loudly a couple of times... Scott> Maybe I AM as tired as I look. :-) More-tired-than-thou. The jetlag has really cut in. I'm back, in body, at least. Bought and like JfS. That's about all I can manage. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 14:48:51 +0000 From: "Tony Blackman" Subject: I Thora Hird NASA Clapping Julian Cope? Iggy Pop? I'd say the time was right for Julian Cope to assume the mantle left vacant by Screaming Lord Sutch's death. It's a shame as I was big fan of The Teardrop Explodes and even some of his early solo stuff, but the last time I bothered to see him live (circa '95) I had to leave as he was utter shite. Dot Allison? Has anyone heard the album? I loved the One Dove stuff (despite the fact that they only had one song and made a whole album out of it) and I'm interested in knowing what she's up to now..... Tony. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 9:43:14 -0600 From: Paul Christian Glenn Subject: Re: Comedies more overrated than Frasier >Eb wrote: > >> > (is "Frasier" the most overrated comedy in television >> history?) I think "Frasier" is one of the few brilliantly written shows to come along in the last ten years. Most of the time, it's an actual "situation" comedy (something that's evidently too difficult for most sitcom writers to pull off these days). The absurd comedies of error that the characters find themselves in rarely look contrived, and while Kelsey Grammar is probably the worst-case of overactor-itis that I've ever seen, his style fits Frasier's flamboyance well. The other thing that "Frasier" has going for it over other sitcoms, is that the shows are written around the characters instead of vice versa. On "Friends", for example, would it make much difference to the show if Chandler's character was a car salesman? Or what if Rachel became a pharmacist? Or what if Joey stopped being a womanizer? How about if Monica stopped being a clean freak? It wouldn't matter, because the characters aren't really that involved with the plots. Their character traits are, more or less, superficial idioscynracies, rather than extensions of who they are. (I'm not ripping on "Friends"; I love the show, just making a point). On Frasier, however, the characters *matter*. The relationship between Marty and his sons has tension, not because of the plot of one particular episode, but rather because of who his character is in relation to Niles and Frasier. It *would* matter if Frasier suddenly stopped being extravagant and self-indulgent. The show wouldn't work like it does now if Niles' character stopped being snooty and petty. I guess what I'm saying is that, in a world of "Veronica's Closet", "Jesse", "Suddenly Susan", and "Just Shoot Me", a show that actually puts some real effort into it's characters and situations, rather than simply using their characters and situations as backdrops for sex jokes, stands out. It's not overrated at all, just appreciated. All IMO, of course. :) Paul Christian Glenn | "Besides being complicated, trance@radiks.net | reality, in my experience, http://x-real.firinn.org | is usually odd." -C.S. Lewis Currently Reading: "The Tempest" by William Shakespeare ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 08:38:48 -0700 From: "Jason R. Thornton" Subject: baby lennon picks Oh my fucking god... >Tuesday September 14 4:32 AM ET > >Actress Kensit And Oasis Star Have Baby Boy > > LONDON (Reuters) - British actress Patsy Kensit and Oasis rock star Liam Gallagher have had a > baby boy who was born one month early and delivered by caesarian section, hospital officials in > London said Tuesday. > >``I'm fine, baby's fine, everything's fine,'' Gallagher, 26, said after the birth Monday night of Lennon, who was named after >his pop idol, the murdered Beatle John Lennon. > >Kensit, 31, has a seven-year-old son, James, from a previous marriage to Simple Minds lead singer Jim Kerr. > - --Jason "Only the few know the sweetness of the twisted apples." - Sherwood Anderson ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 13:22:43 -0400 From: **twofangs** {randi} Subject: Let's Call Randi! Our favourite Feg (and my favourite person!) is in the hospital again, perhaps only for a few days but likely for a couple of weeks. She would love to hear from anyone out there in the land o' Robyn: Sunnybrook Hospital: 1-416-480-4246 ext. 1832 She - for the moment - is in room: C659A So, on behalf of Randi, please please PLEASE call her! Thanks!, Tim Fuller twofangs@sympatico.ca p.s. - sorry if I am budding in on the posts and seeming out of line, but the re-mastered Yellow Submarine is very, very cool...(sounds great too!). thanks again!, ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 11:33:58 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: Comedies more overrated than Frasier PCG: >I think "Frasier" is one of the few brilliantly written shows to >come along in the last ten years. >The absurd comedies of >error that the characters find themselves in rarely look contrived That episode in which Frasier was dating the supermodel (Celia Ward) and no one believed him is probably the most excruciating half-hour of television I've seen in the past couple of years. I can't think of ANYTHING which could've been more contrived than that. That's when I dropped the Frasier habit, for good. Meanwhile, the appearance of that CONTRIVED AND EXCRUCIATING five-minute pratfall sequence which ranked on the Emmy's top 5 moments of the year proves conclusively that a whoooole lotta NBC employees were ordered to have their browsers open that night. (The silly Ross/Rachel wedding appearing at #1 adds further proof.) >On Frasier, however, the characters *matter*. The relationship between >Marty and his sons has tension, not because of the plot of one particular >episode, but rather because of who his character is in relation to Niles >and Frasier. That's the part of the show which WORKS, and the part which has inexplicably been put on the backburner, as week after week, Frasier and Niles Hope To Get Laid And Aren't Successful And End Up Looking Really Silly In The Process. When the show started, the dynamic was totally different...and BETTER. The initial show focus was the tension between two snobby brothers and their blue-collar father. That WORKED. But as so often found on television, the writers found that they weren't willing to let intelligent, upper-class people appear as strong characters. The masses want the air let out of such types. So instead, the writers turned the show into a sex farce, where we hoot and snort because Frasier and Niles -- highly articulate and intelligent, otherwise -- act like complete morons when it comes to women. The show switched from pro-intellectual to anti-intellectual. >I guess what I'm saying is that, in a world of "Veronica's Closet", >"Jesse", "Suddenly Susan", and "Just Shoot Me", a show that actually >puts some real effort into it's characters and situations, rather than >simply using their characters and situations as backdrops for sex jokes, >stands out. When Jack Tripper acted like an idiot lusting after cute girls, everyone scoffed at what a stupid show Three's Company was. When Niles Crane acts like an idiot lusting after Daphne, everyone raves. WHATEVER. I see absolutely no difference between the two situations. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 15:12:02 -0400 From: **twofangs** {randi} Subject: Another thing about Randi... boy oh boy, is she demanding - even when she's not even here! it has dawned on me (like a new day...) that it is probably a lot easier and cheaper for some of you out there to e-mail me, have me print out your letters and bring them to Ms. Randi herself (the hospital is conveniently located 'just up the street'). thanks again, Tim (of Tim and Rand fame and who needs more than that), twofangs@sympatico.ca ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 16:40:21 -0400 From: The Great Quail Subject: Re: Comedies more overrated than Frasier I used to love Frasier, now I am lukewarm -- and Eb pegged all the reasons why it went downhill *exactly.* - --The agreeable quail +---------+---------+---------+---------+---------+---------+---------+ The Great Quail, K.S.C. (riverrun Discordian Society, Kibroth-hattaavah Branch) For fun with postmodern literature, New York vampires, and Fegmania, visit Sarnath: http://www.rpg.net/quail "The people asked, and he brought quails, and satisfied them with the bread of heaven." --Psalms 105:40 (Also see Exodus 16:13 and Numbers 11:31-34 for more starry wisdom) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 14:03:00 -0700 (PDT) From: "Andrew D. Simchik" Subject: that's entertainment > From: "John Barrington Jones" > Robyn, in contrast, stopped taking risks about 5 years > ago. His > setlists are calculated for maximum entertainment value. Artistic risks are great, but all things considered I don't think this is such a bad alternative. > He has > damned up the stream of consciousness rants for fear of > becoming a > parody of himself. They must have been Niagara Falls at one point, then. Yes? > He is living comfortably, in his > London home, > writing a song a month. And I don't think he finds this a poor alternative either, particularly to this: > Dan, as we are led to believe, has no proper home. Lives > out of his > van, tours endlessly, writes a song _a day_. Young, > brash, cocky, > sonofabitch. Frequently exciting art and a comfortable life cannot coexist (or so we are led to believe). Happily, sometimes rich, fulfilling, satisfying, and worthwhile art and a comfortable life *can*. It's unfortunate that the things that make a person most interesting to *us* can be the things that make life most difficult for *them*. I'm not thinking specifically of Dan Bern here (nor could I), but more of idiosyncrasy in general. Romanticizing homelessness -- the kind where you don't even have a guitar, much less a van -- always irritates me (even in _The Fisher King_, one of my favorite movies), because it exploits what makes these people's lives most unfortunate and tries to make it seem interesting and exciting instead. Romanticizing insanity is another pet peeve of mine. Yes, insane people can be very interesting. Let's not forget that there's a delicate tradeoff between what's interesting to us and what sucks for them. Again, I don't mean this to apply to Bern. Your comments just got me thinking. Drew === Andrew D. Simchik, schnopia@yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 14:10:24 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Subject: Trade?:Mrs. Miller Does Her Thing From: "Jon C. Pennington" Newsgroups: rec.music.marketplace.vinyl Date: Wed, Sep 8, 1999 7:35 PM Have a still sealed copy of Mrs. Miller Does Her Thing with the hilarious LP cover featuring Mrs. Miller in a psychedelic housecoat serving a tray of green brownies. Great covers (Green Tambourine) and originals (Renaissance of Smut). Interested in trading for Mel Henke, La Dolce Henke or Coyle & Sharpe, the Insane but Hilarious Minds of Coyle & Sharpe. Looking for demented collectors to trade with. Any info please contact me at . Thank you. Sincerely, Jon C. Pennington - ---- DAMN, I wish I had some Henke/Coyle/Sharpe records in my trash pile! :( (Not that I have a clue who Henke/Coyle/Sharpe are.) Eb, who would probably rank this record as the #1 obscurity on his "want list" PS Got the new Richard Thompson today...yay. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 14:13:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: Comedies more overrated than Frasier Joel Mullins wrote: > Eb wrote: > > > (is "Frasier" the most overrated comedy in television > > history?) > > Jeff Dwarf wrote: > > > You're forgetting The Golden Girls > > Was this overrated? I don't remember hearing anyone say they > liked this show. But I didn't pay much attention to tv back > then. it was nominated for bucketloads of emmies, especially best actress ones. won quite a few too. i think it was the novelty of old people talking about sex. > > Friends > This is a really good show. I don't think it's overrated at > all. If it won a shitload of emmys all the time, then I'd say > it was overrated. i don't hate it, but i don't think it's as good as it's critical acclaim or popularity would imply. in terms of emmys, no it isn't though. especially since matthew perry and lisa kudrow (the best things about it by far) are the only ones who've nominated for acting awards. maybe if they killed Ross and Monica in a bizarre tractor accident.... > > any Norman Lear show other than All in the Family, > I was about to call you one crazy guy. Then I saw the "other > than..." part. I'm so glad TVLand brought this show back. I > probably went ten years without being able to watch it. i hate not having TV Land. and not having court tv (only cuz of homicide). i hate having fox news. > > I Love Lucy, > > Did I mention Lucille Ball sucks? > > Lucille Ball may not have been the greatest comedian, but the > writing on her show was great...most of the time. I love the > episode (I think it was the Lucy and Desi Comedy Hour) where > Milton Berle guest starred. well, i hate milton berle too, so ..... i suppose the writing and vivian vance and the guy who played fred weren't bad. but seriously, Lucy and Desi, while i do give them credit for daring to be a bi-racial tv couple (and real couple for that matter) in the 50's when it could have ruined them careerwise (if lucy's being an ex-commie hadn't, which it didn't [pretend i phrased this well]), i find terribly irritating and unwatchable. they sure as hell weren't the honeymooners. === "America's greatest natural resource, still, to this day, is the moron" --Martin Mull __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 14:23:37 -0800 From: Eb Subject: My own (entirely untested) drinking game for "I Love Lucy" Watch the show, and drink every time someone says "now." "Now Lucy...." "Now Ricky...." "Now Ethel...." "Now Fred...." It's near constant! Eb, who actually thinks the show ages miraculously well, for what it is...I mean, compare it with "The Honeymooners," for instance, not to mention any of the less prominent comedies of the period.... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 14:49:46 PDT From: "KEN " Gelatinous cube " THE KENSTER" Subject: eb all over the world noticing that dan rather is on location in south carolina, i couldn't help but thinking that were it not for our very own jason thornton's grandfather, dan rather wouldn't be on location *anywhere*, save six feet under. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 15:46:47 -0700 From: Capitalism Blows Like a Gelatinous Cube Sucking Off a Goo Sphere Subject: Re: eb all over the world At 02:49 PM 9/14/99 PDT, KEN " Gelatinous cube " THE KENSTER wrote: >noticing that dan rather is on location in south carolina, i couldn't help >but thinking that were it not for our very own jason thornton's grandfather, >dan rather wouldn't be on location *anywhere*, save six feet under. Speaking of my grandfather, here's some information on one of his (and my, further removed) real life cousins, and one of my most famous blood relatives (not counting any illegitimate children I might have that are currently mouseketeers): http://vhost.telalink.net/~nsf/dexter.html KEN "pistol packin' mama" THE KENSTER "Only the few know the sweetness of the twisted apples." - Sherwood Anderson ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 19:17:58 -0400 (EDT) From: Terrence M Marks Subject: mp3 Alert "The Electric Eclectics of Dick Hyman", one of the earliest moog albums around, was recently posted to alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.1960s I'm really impressed by what I've been able to download thus far. The whistling introduction to Beck's "Sissyneck" was lifted straight from "The Moog and Me" (a killer tune in its own right.) If any of you are into this sort of thing, I'd recommend getting it (provided your newsfeed carries absm1960s. I think some of the free newsfeeds have it but I don't know which.) (And if any of you do get it and would be willing to send me a copy of the second half of the album, let me know. Due to the hurricane and a 33.6 connection, it's likely to disappear before I can get to it. Gainesville is scheduled for 40 mph winds, but no-one is really sure what'll happen with the power and all that.) Terrence Marks Unlike Minerva (a comic strip) http://grove.ufl.edu/~normal normal@grove.ufl.edu ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 19:29:30 EDT From: DDerosa5@aol.com Subject: I'm back from Isle Royale...I could see Canada! I just read through all the posts to the list of the last week, having just come back from a fabulous six day hike through moose and wolf-inhabited wilderness, and only one post made me want to respond: the last one from yesterday, to wit: And then, Dan's shows started becoming even _more_ incredible than those Robyn shows I wax nostalgic about. He would unplug the PA system and make the audience pull up real close and have a basic campfire-type singalong. In some midwest town, he got the audience to file out of the venue single file with him and march around the block, all singing his "Jerusalem". I've only seen him once, and must agree. I love the way he stamps his foot loudly as accompaniment, and that's it for accompaniment. He took a bunch of chances, a few songs fell totally flat, and a few just flew like I hadn't seen live in a long time. He ended the show by marching to the back of the room, where I was standing (having come in late, and trying to tape the show too--god does that tape suck, except for:), and he started singing softly. In part because the audience was seated, everyone was facing forward, yelling for an encore, while Dan was playing a song for those of us in the back, no PA. He just kept singing, improv, about how audiences don't really listen anymore, and it was really funny--it took the whole crowd at Schuba's (maybe 300 people tops) almost 5 minutes to shut up and turn around. We didn't march around the block, but it did feel like a campfire, sort of. It felt--like a performer was actually playing with the idea of public performance. Then I tried to interview him, and he blew me off cause he wanted to drink with his friends. Oh well. to all fegs except Eb: give Dan a try. Most of you who responded to Eb's dreary ehhlisting classified him as a "never heard". Maybe an album, but none of them sum him up for me--I'd love to hear Butch's tape, some new songs, and have been meaning to ask Eddie for a suggestion of a good Unhatched Bernlings comp. But if you can see him live, take a chance. He can be that good. Uh, that's all. Nothing to say about Xian preaching, mp3s, cover albums about brothers, or TNCs (though transnationals are evil)(duh). My cat just sneezed all over my keyboard, so I'm gonna give her some attention. love, daved ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V8 #350 *******************************