From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V8 #348 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Monday, September 13 1999 Volume 08 : Number 348 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: fegmaniax-digest V8 #347 ["Russ Reynolds" ] The long, creeping tentacles of one Robyn H- [shmac@ix.netcom.com (Scott ] real itchin' [Bayard ] P.S. (micro$oft content) [Bayard ] Re: Le Petomaine (0% David Birney content) ["Capitalism Blows" ] flames? [Christopher Gross ] Pink Floyd [mrrunion@palmnet.net] Re: Old Man Preachy ["Jason R. Thornton" ] Re: speaking of D'Arcy and Oasis...now here is MAJOR news! [The Great Qua] Um. Sorry. [The Great Quail ] I know what Eb likes I know what Eb wants... [Doc ] every day should be a holiday ["Andrew D. Simchik" ] Re: I know what Toni Basil likes I know what Toni Basil wants... ["Jason ] Ren and Kinsey ["Jason R. Thornton" ] I think this is funny [Mark_Gloster@3com.com] wow [Eb ] Elvis [Joel Mullins ] A long post, about many things [Natalie Jacobs ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 17:46:04 -0700 From: "Russ Reynolds" Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V8 #347 >Oh, Eb, you're never going to start a flame war that way! You have to say >"I don't like [x], therefore [he/she/they] [is/are] no good." THAT'S the >way to garner some flames. No doubt you just forgot that crucial last >phrase because it was late and you were tired. Try pasting it in and >resubmitting your article. > >Hope this helps, > >Chris No offense meant, Chris, but this is a little like Marvin Benard giving hitting tips to Tony Gwynn. - -rUss ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 21:52:36 -0400 From: shmac@ix.netcom.com (Scott Hunter McCleary) Subject: The long, creeping tentacles of one Robyn H- Had three instances of (sort of) Robyn-related stuff just jump out at me today: Larabie Fonts (http://209.207.164.79/users/font/index.htm) has a typeface called "Anglepoise Lampshade." Available for both Mac and Wintel, just follow the "Old Fonts" and "Corp" links. This guy (http://is6.pacific.net.hk/~rebylee/) has two sets of trilobite icons for the Mac. And Smart Device (www.smart-device.com) has a VR-type mouse thingy called a SpaceCat. Maybe I AM as tired as I look. :-) Scott (whose taste in Christian rock runs to Jars of Clay -- who have been produced by a Crimso) ========= SH McCleary Prodigal Dog Communications Arlington, VA 22206 shmac@prodigaldog.com www.prodigaldog.com www.1480kHz.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 23:50:37 -0400 (EDT) From: Bayard Subject: real itchin' First off, i'd like to give full props to the faithful on the list, for being open-minded and really great people. I generally am very worried about treading on people's belief-system toes - and I'm the guy who, despite not believing in any gods - was shocked and vicariously offended when i first heard "dear god" and "ye sleeping knights of jesus" -- not to mention when madonna kissed that little boy in that video. but anyway: > Actually, I find it irritating when Robyn delivers > once again his long tirade against organized religion. FWIW, i thought it was the most interesting thing about the storefront sessions. it wasn't that long, was it? and how often has he said it? interviews don't count - if someone asks him about it, of course he's going to answer! > what's his fucking beef? The argument that *horrible* > things have been done in the name of religion is > pretty thin. Horrible things are being done every day > in the name of hundreds of things. ok, so religion *and* politics are horrible. that doesn't excuse religion. > horrible. At least some organized religion engages in > charitble acts, at least it gives hope to people, at > least it built some beautiful artefacts. more important than any of these, i think, is that it provides a sense of community... something modern culture is sorely lacking. the other side of the coin is, it tends to divide people and can promote an "us and them" mentality that engenders other types of prejudice. > Of course it enslaves peoples' minds- what ideology doesn't? very few systems of thought not only discount all other systems out of hand, but condemn those who believe in them to eternal torment. not that religious leaders are the only leaders who rule by fear - far from it! - but i personally think the 21st century sounds like a good time and place to move away from the old ways. Not that I am about to tell anyone else how to live their life. Then I'd be part of the problem! > *so* many references to God, Jesus, the Devil, etc. in > his songs that I'm convinced there has to be a better > reason than 'I grew up in a Christian country and I > hate religion.' let's face it - these are some of the most universally recognized characters around, and can be mighty interesting and humorous. I myself have written fiction about then, and I grew up not religious at all and do not 'hate religion' - only critique it [see above]. are we really having a "fegs who have seen other fegs naked" thread? cos remember, i've met more than anyone... =b ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 23:54:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Bayard Subject: P.S. (micro$oft content) does anyone have any idea where i can get version 4.0 of the ms ODBC drivers? their seb site only has 3.5 and the robynbase server is demanding 4.0. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 00:22:29 PDT From: "Capitalism Blows" Subject: Re: Le Petomaine (0% David Birney content) translation: i have never, by my own admission, heard a dan bern song despite him being compared most often to two of my heroes --bob dylan and elvis costello-- and despite him receiving scads of euphoric notices on a mailing list full of people whose taste in music i find hews rather closely to my own. why? because somebody else "discovered" him before i did, and i don't want to lose my hipper-than-thou status by actually taking somebody else's recommendation. glad to see mojo nixon made the cut, anyway. by the way, there was a movie about that "fartiste" guy. a friend sent me a poster for it a while back --very cool. i recently passed it along to somebody else (maybe even a feg --can't remember for sure). KEN "Peace out Julio, I'm leaving to the mall" THE KENSTER ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 03:22:36 -0800 From: Eb Subject: who has seen Eddie naked? Eddie bristled: > >translation: i have never, by my own admission, heard a dan bern song I've read things in published reviews which strongly discouraged me from pursuing Bern (lyrics discussing "big balls," for instance, and just general descriptions of his insufferable wise-guy presentation). Meanwhile, the content of personal endorsements here has only strengthened my negative position. I've also skimmed through "Fifty Eggs"...indifference. I even have a tape of a full Bern concert, thanks to a *certain* overzealous fan on this list. (Um...remember?) None of this exposure has inspired me to dig deeper. I'm always pretty blase about music in that generic, strummy, folk-chordbook style, unless the singing and/or lyrics are really special (see Dylan). This "trad-folk template" approach to songwriting is pretty hard to get away with, unless you're a major talent. And Bern ain't one. I mean, I may still own a few Phranc albums, but I've contemplated dumping them many, many, many times.... >despite him being compared most often to two of my heroes --bob dylan and >elvis costello Like David Bowie, both Bob Dylan and Elvis Costello have been responsible for inspiring a *lot* of mediocre music, despite the brilliance of their own catalogs. >and despite him receiving scads of euphoric notices on a >mailing list full of people whose taste in music i find hews rather closely >to my own. 1. I think those "scads of euphoric notices" amount to three people who post about Bern repeatedly. 2. I wouldn't say that I feel any huge commonality with folks' tastes here. Guessing unscientifically, I feel about 53.8% compatible with general Feg tastes. ;) That might be a higher figure than I've found with other mailing lists, but it's still not statistically significant. Probably the *only* person whose tastes I feel dependably compatible with is a good friend of mine (also ex-Disneyland) who now lives in Ohio. And his name is...Dan Best, oddly enough. Awfully close to "Dan Bern," eh? And...um...sorry, Eddie, but you're among those four or five Fegs whose tastes I'm very, very suspicious of (see my earlier post regarding "any music with a giddy air of subversive anarchy"). >why? because somebody else "discovered" him before i did, and i >don't want to lose my hipper-than-thou status by actually taking somebody >else's recommendation. Oh, bullsh*t. If I get turned onto an artist by someone else, I'm more than happy to award him/her credit. It just doesn't happen much nowadays (unless you count folks who turn me on to an artist as part of their job). Usually, I find them through my own research, or through the afternoon mail. I believe that the below artists are the *only* exceptions, of the last four-ish years: 1. Owsley: credit to a publicist friend 2. Rufus Wainwright: interest first sparked by a local record-label owner, who raved about Rufus to me a few months before the album was released 3. Silver Apples: my friend Chris 4. Beth Orton: also my friend Chris, to a lesser extent 5. The Hang Ups: an editor, who listed a Hang Ups album on a top-10 list and aroused my curiosity 6. Sneakers: a then-publicist, who's now an editor at Raygun magazine plus (I'm not sure about these)... 7. Super Furry Animals: *possibly* an old KUCI acquaintance named Brian...possibly 8. Money Mark: *possibly* Chris, again 9. The High Llamas: *possibly* the same guy who told me about Rufus That is IT. Like I said, this just doesn't happen much nowadays. And yes, no Fegs are on the above list. Perhaps Quail will get me excited about Tin Dung one day, or whatever that Chinese composer dude is named. There's a potential opening. ;) Similarly, if I get turned onto Berg or Webern, it will be because of recommendations from Quail and various unknown posters on the Frank Zappa newsgroup. But this hasn't happened yet, because I simply haven't forked over the dough for any corresponding product. Only 16 shopping days left 'til my birthday, EB "I've Seen Myself Naked" THE EBSTER PS And you didn't think my previous post could start a battle, Chris Gross. Oh ye, of little faith.... np: Lida Husik/Mad Flavor ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 07:51:10 -0400 (EDT) From: Christopher Gross Subject: flames? On Sun, 12 Sep 1999, Russ Reynolds wrote: > >Oh, Eb, you're never going to start a flame war that way! You have to say > >"I don't like [x], therefore [he/she/they] [is/are] no good." THAT'S the > >way to garner some flames. No doubt you just forgot that crucial last > >phrase because it was late and you were tired. Try pasting it in and > >resubmitting your article. > > No offense meant, Chris, but this is a little like Marvin Benard giving > hitting tips to Tony Gwynn. No offense taken, since I've never heard of either of these people! Do I have a rep for flaming? I'd be surprised if I did. I've been in my share of arguments, but an argument doesn't necessarily imply flaming: it depends on how frequently the phrase "you fucking moron" is used. On Mon, 13 Sep 1999, Eb wrote: > PS And you didn't think my previous post could start a battle, Chris > Gross. You got me there! - --Chris p.s. Fun project: Go to the record store and compare the front cover of Springsteen's box set _Tracks_ and the back cover of :wumpscut:'s CD _Eevil Young Flesh_. Has anyone ever see Bruce Springsteen and Rudy Ratzinger in the same place at the same time? ______________________________________________________________________ Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 08:26 +0000 From: mrrunion@palmnet.net Subject: Pink Floyd Hey guys, Well, we're getting ready for Floyd down here. For those of you who don't know, I live near Cocoa Beach, and work out at the Space Center. Watch the Weather Channel and see where they show this thing plowing into...yep, that's me. You know why it's coming? Last Friday night was my son's 13th Birthday. We took a slew of roudy 13 year olds to our local planetarium (one of the top ones in the world by the way) and took in the complete "Pink Floyd - The Wall", all produced locally. Stunning show by the way...I mean really incredible in a sorta redneck "let's go see that there la-zer show" way. Anyway, great computer graphics of walls tumbling and all sorts of things... Fate? See y'all on the other side, Mike (Hurcon III status just announced...) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 08:49:04 -0700 From: "Jason R. Thornton" Subject: Re: Old Man Preachy At 05:30 PM 9/11/99 -0700, Andrew D. Simchik wrote: >Regarding preachy artists: I'll only repeat that artists >I agree with can preach all they like without bothering me. >I'm only irritated by artists who are wrong...I mean, >artists who preach views with which I disagree. (Is this >fair? Fuck no.) Well, yeah. Admittedly the distinction I would make between "preachy" and "opinionated" has to not to do only with the delivery of the message, but also with how receptive I am to that message. I still don't see what's "odd" or "unfair" about this. Unless one is going out of their way to provide a completely objective description of a band, which is probably useful only if you're a business selling CD's or if you're a reporter trying to write a news article free of editorial commentary. I'm on the "lookout" for opinions with which I agree and those with which I disagree all the time. I'm interested in the degree to which a band like Sixpence decides to testify about Christ to a mixed audience in the same way I'm keeping an eye out for hints of hypocrisy in George Bush Junior's approach to his personal drug use and his public drug policy. By the way, I saw Moby on Politically Incorrect, and he seemed like a dipshit when it came to discussing the Beastie Boys and Buddhism. Sure, he discussed Christians in China as if they were "authentic" believers being oppressed by the mean ol' Communists, but then he turned around dismissed Westerners who've adopted Buddhism as being "trendy." Those British Colonialist attitudes just never die. In any case, I can still find a certain degree of preachiness amongst artists with whom I more than often agree annoying. I've heard exactly zero Dan Bern songs. - --Jason "off to send a few choice emails about Eb's 'i don't like' list to start some real flamewars" Thornton ;) np: Elvis Costello, "God Give Me Strength," amusingly enough ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 12:03:12 -0400 From: The Great Quail Subject: Re: speaking of D'Arcy and Oasis...now here is MAJOR news! >>From Robert Fripp's website diary: > >"Immediately before the final listen-through, Richard Chadwick called to >say Stan Hertzmann (Adrian's manager) had just telephoned him: Adrian has >decided not to proceed with King Crimson. Fuck. Fuck. fuck, fuckity fuck. Love and Rockets. Rush. The Kronos Quartet. Smashing Pumpkins. And now . . . King Crimson. - --Quail, getting more and more depressed with music. Please, God, don't let Robyn leave Robyn Hitchcock. PS: What next? No more Beanie Babies? +---------+---------+---------+---------+---------+---------+---------+ The Great Quail, K.S.C. (riverrun Discordian Society, Kibroth-hattaavah Branch) For fun with postmodern literature, New York vampires, and Fegmania, visit Sarnath: http://www.rpg.net/quail "The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents." -- H.P. Lovecraft ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 12:09:52 -0400 From: The Great Quail Subject: Um. Sorry. Eb: >I don't like Rush. Ah, you just hadda. . . . - --Quail PS: I am an idiot. I was so depressed after reading about Ade's split I fired off a letter without finishing my Fegreading. Sorry. I will pull my head out of the oven now. +---------+---------+---------+---------+---------+---------+---------+ The Great Quail, K.S.C. (riverrun Discordian Society, Kibroth-hattaavah Branch) For fun with postmodern literature, New York vampires, and Fegmania, visit Sarnath: http://www.rpg.net/quail "The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents." -- H.P. Lovecraft ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 10:34:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Doc Subject: I know what Eb likes I know what Eb wants... >I don't like the Smiths. They took some time for me. I had to live in England for me to get it. Now I think they're the best comedy band of all time. Dunno why they're on Dr. Demento, though. >I don't like Phish. Yeah, big shocker there. >I don't like Julian Cope. C'mon, England's own Iggy Pop? >I don't like Radiohead. They're much too clever for me. I'm not allowed to have an opinion. >I don't like Bauhaus. Who? >I don't like the Church. Too bad... >I don't like Mercury Rev. Who? >I don't like Depeche Mode. And? >I don't like Siouxsie & the Banshees. Uh-huh... I see a pattern here. >I don't like the Verve. C'mon, "What's the story, Definitely Maybe?" is one of the best albums ever... >I don't like Wilco. I do, but I like fluffernutters better. >I don't like Heidi Berry. Who? >I don't like Porcupine Tree. Oh, you're just making things up now. >I don't like Stan Ridgway. He's an excellent pre-wash soak. Lifts the stains right out. >I don't like Wesley Willis. Little known younger brother of Chucky Willis, I believe. >I don't like Magnetic Fields. Any other physical forces you dislike? Gravity, maybe? >I don't like Lois. Hi divorced her last year, and I say he's better off. >I don't like Joy Electric. If you can get Joy that way, more power to you. >I don't like Apples in Stereo. Sounds like a new twist on the old "You have a banana in your ear!" joke. >I don't like Suede, the London Suede, Suede UK or the English Suede. Howsabout Rush? >I don't like Rush. I don't understand this. You're certainly cranky enough to like them. >I don't like the Cure. Where will Eb take the waters then? >I don't like Dan Bern. Who? >I don't like Echo & the Bunnymen. Can't help you here. I like the guitar on "Lips Like Sugar" and that's about it. >I don't like Sophie B. Hawkins. Who? >I don't like Adam Ant. Ever since he lost his makeup... :::sigh::: well, I dunno... >I don't like Aphex Twin. But aren't they employing the digital photo editor from the late Spy magazine? >I don't like the Grateful Dead. Get in line, buddy. All the way to the back. Keep goin'. You got a long walk ahead of you. >I don't like Pulp. Michael Jackson Pulp? >I don't like Pearl Jam. Don't care. >I don't like Paul Kelly. Who? >I don't like Morphine. Lucky for you the lead singer is dead then. >I don't like Ani DiFranco. Does this mean you don't "swing"? >I haven't heard much Momus, but have a strong feeling that I wouldn't >like him either. I still think Momus would be a GREAT name for a breakfast cerial. MMM Momus Flakes... Momus Loops... Momusbix... Ehhh... look after yerselves... - -Doc __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 10:38:35 -0700 (PDT) From: "Andrew D. Simchik" Subject: every day should be a holiday > From: Doc > Andrew said: > > >C'mon, David Bowie > >proclaiming Lauryn Hill as a "breakthrough artist"? > Geez, hasn't that > >guy sucked enough dick in his lifetime? I only quoted this. I didn't say it. [snip] > when a person of Bowie's stature gives endorsement to > someone like > Lauryn Hill may not just make Bowie fans think twice, it > might make > Lauryn Hill fans think twice as well. Think twice about what? Are you suggesting that some crossover may result from Bowie's "endorsement," one way or the other? It seems really unlikely to me, and it's not as if Hill is some low-profile critics' darling that no one else has noticed. I don't see what you're driving at here. > From: Eb No one really cares, but here's what buttons Eb would have pushed of mine if a woodchuck could chuck wood: THE GOOD > I don't like the Smiths. > I don't like Julian Cope. > I don't like Radiohead. > I don't like Bauhaus. > I don't like Siouxsie & the Banshees. > I don't like Suede, the London Suede, Suede UK or the > English Suede. > I don't like the Cure. > I don't like Pulp. > I don't like Ani DiFranco. > I haven't heard much Momus, but have a strong feeling > that I wouldn't like > him either. THE BAD > I don't like Phish. > I don't like the Verve. > I don't like Heidi Berry. > I don't like the Grateful Dead. > I don't like Pearl Jam. THE INDIFFERENT, OVERRATED, OR UNKNOWN > I don't like the Church. > I don't like Mercury Rev. > I don't like Depeche Mode. > I don't like Wilco. > I don't like Porcupine Tree. > I don't like Stan Ridgway. > I don't like Wesley Willis. > I don't like Magnetic Fields. > I don't like Lois. > I don't like Joy Electric. > I don't like Apples in Stereo. > I don't like Rush. > I don't like Dan Bern. > I don't like Echo & the Bunnymen. > I don't like Sophie B. Hawkins. > I don't like Adam Ant. > I don't like Aphex Twin. > I don't like Paul Kelly. > I don't like Morphine. Just for future reference. Carry on! > From: Joel Mullins [AVvol1] > listen to "I'd Like That." The way Andy moves from one > line to the next > is fucking great! That's an interesting example of Apple Venus's virtues. My favorite tracks are, unsurprisingly, "River of Orchids," "Easter Theater," and "Harvest Festival." But, on listening again, I think I agree with you about _Can You Still Feel?_. The first half is pretty enjoyable, if unremarkable. The second half is torture. Oh well. Drew n.p. the dreaded Dandy Warhols, _...Come Down_ === Andrew D. Simchik, schnopia@yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 10:54:00 -0700 From: "Jason R. Thornton" Subject: Re: I know what Toni Basil likes I know what Toni Basil wants... >>I don't like Depeche Mode. >And? Hey, there's a new Gap borg-like drone-kids-singing advertisement out on the TV. This time they're all standing around and singing "Just Can't Get Enough." Vince Clarke must be spinning in his grave. - --Jason "0" Thornton "Only the few know the sweetness of the twisted apples." - Sherwood Anderson ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 13:03:26 -0700 From: "Jason R. Thornton" Subject: Ren and Kinsey I've known about the Kinsey scale, and the "10%" findings of his research, for a long while but I've never really looked into the number coding itself. Doing a quick web search, I found three different descriptions of what the infamous Kinsey numbers mean. I was curious as to whether the scale focused more on "current orientation" or "complete sexual history," but there really doesn't seem to be a consensus on that. It looks as though the scale could be applied either way. - ---------- This is the Kinsey scale. 0. Exclusively heterosexual with no homosexual 1. Predominantly heterosexual, only incidental homosexual 2. Predominantly heterosexual, but more than incidentally homosexual 3. Equally heterosexual and homosexual 4. Predominantly homosexual but more than incidentally heterosexual 5. Predominantly homosexual, but incidentally heterosexual 6. Exclusively homosexual. The Kinsey Numbers are: 0 exclusive opposite-sex experience and/or attraction 1 incidental same-sex experience and/or attraction, but predominately opposite-sex 2 substantial same-sex experience and/or attraction, but more than half opposite-sex 3 balanced experience and/or attraction 4 more than half same-sex experience and/or attraction, but substantial opposite-sex 5 predominately same-sex experience and/or attraction, but incidental opposite-sex 6 exclusive same-sex experience and/or attraction 0 = entirely heterosexual 1 = largely heterosexual, but with incidental homosexual history 2 = largely heterosexual, but with a distinct homosexual history 3 = equally heterosexual and homosexual 4 = largely homosexual, but with a distinct heterosexual history 5 = largely homosexual, but with incidental heterosexual history 6 = entirely homosexual - ----------- Now, what do you think that Smashing Pumpkins song "Zero" is really all about? - --Jason "i don't like lauryn hill" Thornton "Only the few know the sweetness of the twisted apples." - Sherwood Anderson ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 13:40:44 -0700 From: Mark_Gloster@3com.com Subject: I think this is funny As the actual Robyn Hitchcock news dwindles, it is of course time to feast on each other and take huge whacks and divots from each other with pitching wedges and scythes and the Holy Hand grenade from Antioch, which Brother Maynard carries. A friend sent me the following link which makes light of a narrow band viewpoint. Please understand that I am sharing it principally for its contribution to humor, and not to add venom to our friendly exchange of ideas. I have found fegs whose religious viewpoints to differ from my own tend to avoid the flavo(u)r of absolutism. http://www.abarnett.demon.co.uk/atheism/bibleharness.html Now, you can go back to whacking Eb for his silly taste. I like a few number of recognized names from the ebsayssamiam list. Especially Stan Ridgway, Dan Bern, the Cure, the Smiths. Some of them, like Siouxsie+, Adam+, and Echo+ had their moments but were a little inconsistent. Some others were more consistent, but sadly so. FYI: I'll be away from this address for a while. You may contact me some @ my rubrshrk@tigermonkey.com addy. I will likely be away even from that addy for some of the next few weeks though. Happies, - -M(sh)ark(boy)g "Could you, would you, with a goat Eveneb says, "Never," in a boat. A critic crapped upon my coat With acid pen and caustic throat." - -from the Tibetan Book of the Eb, immaculately translated from its original Pig Latin by ferrets with ball-peen hammers and melted crayons. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 13:49:36 -0800 From: Eb Subject: wow http://www.interx.net/~jgreen/RantingShaman.html If you're a fan of early King Crimson, check this link. Talk about a flamewar.... Eb, still scowling over "Ally McBeal" AND "Sports Night" losing to "Frasier" for Best Comedy Writing, and David Hyde Pierce beating Peter MacNichol for Best Supporting Comedy Actor (is "Frasier" the most overrated comedy in television history?) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 15:43:12 -0700 From: Joel Mullins Subject: Elvis So what is the consensus on Elvis' "Mighty Like a Rose" and "The Juliet Letters?" I found used copies of them both recently for about $4 a piece. I'm wondering if they're worth the four dollars. I don't have anything after "Punch the Clock," so I don't really know much about his later sound. Joel ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 17:06:00 -0400 (EDT) From: Natalie Jacobs Subject: A long post, about many things >Some people's views of Christianity change in their music >(Gnat may disagree with me, but I think Andy Partridge's religious views >did change somewhat between "Skylarking" and "Nonsuch"-- the man who >wrote "Dear God" wasn't the same man that wrote "Rook") Hrm. If you're saying that Partridge has become more inclined towards Christianity over the years, then I'd say - well, I'd say you were out of your mind. On the other hand, if you're saying he's become more inclined towards spirituality in general, then I'd totally agree. (E.g. his pagan songs - he's not a pagan, but he plays one on CD - or "Rook," for that matter.) Re. Snapple Penis - >I cannot get into this album at all. Could you please tell me why you >like it? I like XTC quite a bit, and this release (next to the Poi Dog >Pondering CD) was the biggest disappointment of the year for me. >Little help? You could read my laboriously-written review at seshat.homepage.com/av1.html, if you like. And you could also note that I have a new homepage (thanks to Dolph!), at seshat.homepage.com. (Seshat is Thoth's wife, in case you don't know.) Can't help you with the Poi Dog Pondering, though. I always thought they sucked. >Where is Jon Fetter when we need him ? .Bayard, are you gonna cook up >any more stories ? >I need more weirdness, I'm not getting enough recently and I usually >look to the feglist for inspiration. Oh, Dave. During the recent NMH dispute, I started writing a long story about Jeff Mangum's love child, who has a high level of hexagonal pachydermichrons in his blood, and his fight against the evil Darth Partridge, who is crusading against sincerity in all its forms. But the dispute was over before I could finish the story, and I threw it away because it was dated already. I'm sorry - I'm still trying to come up with more ideas. Just be patient. >I haven't heard much Momus, but have a strong feeling that I wouldn't >like him either. I'm reviewing his new album as we speak. Clever but awfully grating, is how I'd describe it. And cold, as Dave D. (I think) mentioned. But Aaron Mandel gets mentioned in one song, which is cool. n. p.s. Inadvertent minor starfucking: Turns out that a guy I've been writing to is apparently the bassist from Dressy Bessy, an E6 satellite band. He saw Robert Schneider's Thoth and wanted one of his own. I guess I'm developing a reputation. :) p.p.s. A friend of mine recommends that Robyn write songs for Oasis. "What?" I yelled. "Liam singing songs about frogs and bugs?" "Well, their lyrics don't make much sense anyway..." But I realize now that such a combination might make LJ's head explode. It's just as well that it'll never happen. ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V8 #348 *******************************