From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V8 #334 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Thursday, September 2 1999 Volume 08 : Number 334 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Hey! Why didn't Billy call me??? [Stewart Russell 3295 Analyst_Progra] Re: Whee! [Stewart Russell 3295 Analyst_Programmer ] Re: Covers that are bigger [Stephen Buckalew ] Re: cover me [four episode lesbian ] Re: Whee! [Aaron Mandel ] Re: just curious... [Aaron Mandel ] Re: Covers that are bigger [overbury@cn.ca] 2 questions [Joel Mullins ] Re: Covers that are bigger [Stephen Buckalew ] ectofest [four episode lesbian ] request for (music) advice... [Stephen Buckalew ] Brian May's guitar, serious guitar geekdom content 110% [Mark_Gloster@3co] Re: Covers that are bigger [Bayard ] Re: Brian May's guitar, serious guitar geekdom content 110% [Tom Clark ] another boring concert review (10% Thoth content) [Natalie Jacobs ] dissin' the skinny chyx [Mark_Gloster@3com.com] Re: day & night review [James Dignan ] Re: Brian May's guitar, serious guitar geekdom content 110% [normal@grove] eb all over the world ["Capitalism Blows" ] Re: Brian May's guitar, serious guitar geekdom content 110% [Michael R Go] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 13:43:07 +0100 (BST) From: Stewart Russell 3295 Analyst_Programmer Subject: Re: Hey! Why didn't Billy call me??? >>>>> "The" == The Great Quail writes: The> a CD of Billy The> Bragg out-takes and B-sides?!?!? How the hell did *that* The> release sneak up on me? I saw it advertised a week or two ago in the UK press. Should've said something, but forgot. Oops. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 13:48:08 +0100 (BST) From: Stewart Russell 3295 Analyst_Programmer Subject: Re: Whee! >>>>> "d" == dmw writes: d> did anybody put together any organized protest? i just quit d> playing cds in my computer, 'cause it made me so mad. I think freedb is the protest. There must be ways of submitting your data (which will still be on your computer, somewhere) to freedb, because Escient cannot claim restrospective copyright on your data. I also think that Escient can only claim *collection* copyright on the CDDB, at least certainly on the data that was submitted before they became restrictive. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 13:53:13 +0100 (BST) From: Stewart Russell 3295 Analyst_Programmer Subject: Re: Covers that are bigger >>>>> "Ken" == Ken W writes: >> I hate Queen. It is very unlikely that a Queen song exists >> which would not cause me tension headaches :). Ken> Try Seven Seas of Rhye or Keep Yourself Alive. Nope, they all bite. I know; I had a smelly-psycho-lying-thieving-bastard-flatmate-from-hell who played all the CDs in rotation, loudly, continuously, on my effing hi-fi... As for Jamiroquai, I only hate them in my spare time. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 14:02:58 +0100 (BST) From: Stewart Russell 3295 Analyst_Programmer Subject: No, I don't remember Guilford, CT Just a wee note to say I'm off the list for ten days or so. I'm taking the aeroplane over the sea to lurk around in Connecticut for a bit, and then across to familiar turf in Kansas City. I'll miss the UK release of JfS, oh well. Keep up the amusement and bemusement while I'm away. On this last day that the date (1/9/99) is the same as the year for a bit, I remain, Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 10:20:39 -0400 (EDT) From: Christopher Gross Subject: CD player for Windoze? I need to play CDs on my work computer if I'm going to stay sane. However, I'm not satisfied with either Windows95's built-in audio CD player or CDmax, a free third-party player that I downloaded. (Annoyingly, CDmax won't consult any online database other than CDDB.) Could someone recommend a better option? Here are my requirements: - -must work with Windows95 (at home I'm a devoted, not to say rabid, Mac user; but I need something to use on my Wintel box at work) - -must have the option to download from and upload to both CDDB and freedb.org - -must be FREE! (in the no-payment-required sense if not the open-source sense) - -ideally the player should let you modify its appearance with "skins" - -I *don't* need MP3 compatability or anything like that, since my computer won't play anything but regular audio CDs So, do you Windows users out there have any recommendations? Thanks! - --Chris ______________________________________________________________________ Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Sep 1999 10:41:33 -0400 From: Stephen Buckalew Subject: Re: Covers that are bigger Both Queen and the White Album have been discussed recently...and not to revive the whole Queen thing, but... I was listening the White Album last night, and it struck me that "Sexy Sadie" seemed to be a blueprint for Queens general style of delivery and chord progression...actually Glam rock in general (could Queen be considered a Glam rock band?) I might be getting my times all mixed up anyway...maybe Glam was already forming around then... Had anyone else ever thought that "Sexy Sadie" sounded kinda like what Queen would do in the future? btw...not a big Queen fan...too over the top...but I always loved "My Best Friend", a pretty little pop tune. And Brian Mays guitar is an interesting style and sound. Shutting up about Queen now.... n.p. "Revival" Gillian Welch S.B. **************************************************************************** "...everythings all on...it's rosy...it's a beautiful day!"--Syd Barrett **************************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Sep 1999 11:04:29 -0400 From: four episode lesbian Subject: Re: cover me when we last left our heroes, Christopher Gross exclaimed: >Which reminds me of Bigod20's version of "Like a Prayer." which reminds me of (exarea, ex-moon seven times) lynn canfield's cover/parody "etheriel girl". she mostly just plays it at live shows, but it's supposed to be released on a projekt sampler sometime (or so i heard). woj n.p. groupa -- lavalek ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 11:09:05 -0400 (EDT) From: Aaron Mandel Subject: Re: Whee! On Wed, 1 Sep 1999, Stewart Russell 3295 Analyst_Programmer wrote: > I think freedb is the protest. There must be ways of submitting your > data (which will still be on your computer, somewhere) to freedb, > because Escient cannot claim restrospective copyright on your data. i don't know much about Windows, but as far as i know, cddb data files are always a pretty standard format. (the documentation for your cddb-aware program should tell you where they're kept; for xmcd under Unix it's somewhere like /usr/local/lib/xmcd/cddb.) if you mail them to freedb-submit@freedb.org with subject line "cddb rock af8398c0" (without the quote marks, with "rock" potentially changed to a different genre and the 8-digit hexadecimal number being the cd's magic number), they will be added to the freedb database in a few hours. with Unix it's very easy to just submit everything i've had in the player since a given time; with a little more work i can edit out the ones they already had. not as simple as clicking "submit", but livable. aaron ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 11:25:55 -0400 (EDT) From: Aaron Mandel Subject: Re: just curious... On Tue, 31 Aug 1999, Eb wrote: > Of the MP3 enthusiasts on this list, is your pursuit purely related to > bootlegs, live tracks and rarities? Or do you download widely > available album tracks, make your own compilation CDs and that type of > thing? almost 100% the former. exceptions: 1) i make mp3s of songs from commercially available albums if i want to 'play' it for someone who isn't around. similarly, i've thought about making a 'mix tape' of mp3s, though i haven't gotten around to it. making physical mix discs doesn't require mp3 programs. 2) shamefully, i have downloaded mp3s of and then burned copies of two widely available records. the first was because i expected to hate it but was tired of hearing about how brilliant it was without actually being able to find anyone to borrow it from. the second was in a fit of pique over what i perceived as overpricing, and since i was wrong (the "remixes" were completely different songs) i have no excuse for this. 3) i bought the They Might Be Giants mp3-only record. despite the convenience, i can't see myself doing this for anything that existed in actual pre-packaged form with liner notes, artwork, etc. aaron ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 11:31:42 +0000 From: overbury@cn.ca Subject: Re: Covers that are bigger > Had anyone else ever thought that "Sexy Sadie" sounded kinda like what > Queen would do in the future? I can see that, although I've never considered it before. > > btw...not a big Queen fan...too over the top...but I always loved "My Best > Friend", a pretty little pop tune. And Brian Mays guitar is an interesting > style and sound. As a teen, he built his own guitar (the Red Special), and used it in his work with Queen. Played it with a sixpence for a pick, too. You'd never quite duplicate it if you were tempted to do so. I feel pretty much the same way about them as you, but I'll confess to buying the 45rpm of Bohemian Rhapsody to check out the production. - -- Ross Overbury Montreal, Quebec, Canada ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Sep 1999 10:25:01 -0700 From: Joel Mullins Subject: 2 questions 1) Has anyone heard of a Kentucky-based band named My Morning Jacket? 2) Is anyone familiar with a song called "Seven Old Ladies Locked in the Lavatory?" And if so, do you know the words? Joel ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Sep 1999 12:54:22 -0400 From: Stephen Buckalew Subject: Re: Covers that are bigger Ross Overbury: >As a teen, he built his own guitar (the Red Special), and used it in his work >with Queen. Played it with a sixpence for a pick, too. You'd never quite >duplicate it if you were tempted to do so. I read somewhere that May was working with a guitar company to build and market the "Red Special" model, but that the plan fell through....some other band interview I read (can't remember who) said they were looking for a good guitar sound on a new album, and that May came over to his house and showed him his whole set up...but that it sounded so "exactly" like Queen that they decided not to go with it. I tried playing with a coin for a pick once...didn't quite work for me... n.p. Pretenders, The Singles S.B. **************************************************************************** "...everythings all on...it's rosy...it's a beautiful day!"--Syd Barrett **************************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Sep 1999 12:51:14 -0400 From: four episode lesbian Subject: ectofest any fegs in the northeast of the united states who need something to do this coming weekend (and don't mind being ridiculed by eB for being loopy with estrogen) are more than welcome to come to danbury, connecticut for ectofest, a music festival featuring a slew of regional artists, focusing primarily on women. all the details are at , so i won't post them here... woj n.p. boiled in lead -- antler dance now cleaning -- the kitchen floor ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Sep 1999 13:00:59 -0400 From: Stephen Buckalew Subject: request for (music) advice... I know there are a bunch of musicians on this list... I'm getting ready to make a CD of my songs...I've done alot of recording on a tape 4-track. Do any of you have experiences to share about different results with going to a studio vs. home digital recording? Both routes seem to cost about the same, and I've considered some of the advantages of home (as many takes as you like...endless tinkering...etc.) vs. studio (having an engineer with good hearing there to guide the process, top notch equipment). My material is not real complex full-band stuff...it's acoustic folk-pop with some bass/electric/harmony overdubs and minimal percussion. reply off-list if you have any advice....any appreciated! :-) S.B. **************************************************************************** "...everythings all on...it's rosy...it's a beautiful day!"--Syd Barrett **************************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 10:54:45 -0700 From: Mark_Gloster@3com.com Subject: Brian May's guitar, serious guitar geekdom content 110% Ross Overbury: >>As a teen, he built his own guitar (the Red Special), and used it in his work >>with Queen. Played it with a sixpence for a pick, too. You'd never quite >>duplicate it if you were tempted to do so. >I read somewhere that May was working with a guitar company to build and >market the "Red Special" model, but that the plan fell through....some >other band interview I read (can't remember who) said they were looking for >a good guitar sound on a new album, and that May came over to his house and >showed him his whole set up...but that it sounded so "exactly" like Queen >that they decided not to go with it. Two Brian May models came out a few years ago. The cheapo sounded little better than a Danelectro. The expensive one was very true to original form. I can't remember who came out with it. The story Brian May tells, as I remember it, is that he wanted to buy an electric guitar and his dad told him that guitar companies didn't know anything about acoustic properties of instruments, wood, and the tonal properties of pickups. He had his son go out with him to select a good piece of tone wood (a tree.) They cut down the tree and shaped the body. They created open channels within the body of the guitar to tune the wood, and harmonics and sustain. (In recent years a number of guitar companies have begun doing this.) They also designed and hand wound the pickups. I'm not sure about the neck of the guitar. The original guitar does look like they created the bridge assembly themselves. >I tried playing with a coin for a pick once...didn't quite work for me... Lots of people have used coins for pics. US Quarters work pretty well, but it helps to use a grinder on them to a smooth edge. There are also metal picks which are okay. The problem with them is that upon contact with a string, a metal pick creates an additional tone and the eq of pick and string is very different. I wouldn't even consider using it for acoustic, but one can make some cool effects on an electric with one. It is good to use a very hard pick like metal or stone to practice faster picking- it disciplines the player to take out unneccessary motions and encourages uniform picking with only the tip (if you get too far into the pick, it will catch the strings and slow you down.) Last item: I still really like Queen. Say whatever you want. I don't listen to them much anymore, but am suddenly compelled to run out and get A Day at the Races and A Night at the Opera again and who knows what else. Strangely, those are also my favorite Marx Bros. flyx. The item after that: I was in a little breakfast place with some friends a couple of years ago when Bohem'sody came on the radio. When it reached its crescendo, all of us at the table began bobbing our heads like Wayne and Garth (people still ask me if I'm Garth) and everyone in the place thought we were very funny. Happies, - -Markg ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 14:06:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Bayard Subject: Re: Covers that are bigger > I feel pretty much the same way about them as you, but I'll confess to buying > the 45rpm of Bohemian Rhapsody to check out the production. the most expensive production of any song up to that point, i hear. I wonder what songs have surpassed it in priciness, by now. covers that were smaller than the original, but that I liked more: afraid of clowns? (local baltimore band)- scarborough fair too much joy - seasons in the sun robyn hitchcock - charlotte anne i like both versions of "superman" - REM's and the original. the clique must have made more on REM's version! =b ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 11:10:26 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Brian May's guitar, serious guitar geekdom content 110% On 9/1/99 10:54 AM, Mark Gloster wrote: >I was in a little breakfast place with some friends a couple of >years ago when Bohem'sody came on the radio. When it reached its >crescendo, all of us at the table began bobbing our heads like >Wayne and Garth (people still ask me if I'm Garth) and everyone >in the place thought we were very funny. Between periods at San Jose Sharks games (that's hockey, folks) they sometimes play "Bohem'sody" whilst people chat and obtain refreshments. Whenever this part comes around it is guaranteed that at least a few people in each section do the Wayne's World thing. It's absolutely Pavlovian. - -tc p.s. Ever notice that when you hire a stripper for a house call they always dance to AC/DC? Um, wait, I think I'm revealing too much here... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 11:31:27 -0700 (PDT) From: "Andrew D. Simchik" Subject: mit out your teh-lee-vision > From: "Ariel Green" > > No, Pet's still alive & well--she's been involved in some > Broadway or > Broadway-style show that recently played here in > Huntsville.. ...Alabama? Maybe I'll have to see it next time I visit home. > From: Natalie Jacobs > I'm hoping to give her a Thoth, but I might be too > intimidated... What does it mean to give someone a Thoth, exactly? (Newbie question #356.) > From: Eb > > Of the MP3 enthusiasts on this list, is your pursuit > purely related to > bootlegs, live tracks and rarities? Or do you download > widely available > album tracks, make your own compilation CDs and that type > of thing? I do neither. I use mp3s for one of the following two purposes: 1) to make mix CDs using albums I own (where only a few tracks on each album are worth listening to) 2) to preview albums I'm thinking of buying (if I like, I buy; if I don't, I delete) And I guess there's also 3) to evangelize music I have and think someone else would like My straightlaced approach is partly due to conscience, and partly a preference for listening to music away from my computer. > From: Christopher Gross > Which reminds me of Bigod20's version of "Like a Prayer." > For those who > haven't heard it, the vocalist sounds not unlike the guy > from Rammstein, > giving Madonna's lyrics a rather different feel. Great > stuff! Bigod20's version of "Like a Prayer" is only marginally less stomach-turning than Limp Bizkit's cover of "Faith." Granted, the originals were hardly works of musical genius, but the covers are rock-stupid and irritating beyond words. IMO, of course. Speaking of Rammstein, their cover of Depeche Mode's "Stripped" is easily the silliest track on the _For the Masses_ tribute album. If I knew it was as tongue- in-cheek as it sounds, I'd almost like it. But in general, if I want Rammstein, I can easily pound garbage cans and belch through a fan in the comfort of my own home. Perhaps setting myself on fire for verisimilitude. Drew === Andrew D. Simchik, schnopia@yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 16:56:53 -0400 (EDT) From: Natalie Jacobs Subject: another boring concert review (10% Thoth content) The Kristin Hersh show last night was really good. Even Eb might have liked it. (Well, maybe not.) About 2/3 of the set was Muses material, from throughout their career, and she also played some stuff from "Hips and Makers," ending with a version of "A Loon" that had the audience incongruously dancing. She gets this weird crazed look in her eyes when she sings, and when she really gets going, her head starts weaving back and forth like a snake. She didn't tell any stories, but compared playing one song to "juggling my eyebrows and my ass." The opening act, a local folkie named Lisa Hunter, SUCKED. I tried to give her a chance, but when she introduced the second song by saying, "When I was on tour in North Carolina, this is what the mountains behind the Hampton Inn said to me," I fled in horror. While I was sitting outside, I saw a couple of little kids running around, accompanied by a woman so tiny that I thought she was another kid at first. Then I realized it was Kristin Hersh herself. I ended up giving a Thoth to her older son Ryder, with his mom's approval. (She said it would be the "tour mascot." :) An evening well-spent, all told. n. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 17:31:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Livia Drusilla Subject: callista and what about scrawny babes who do put sugar in their coffee all day long, and yet can never seem to stop saying "no, sweetie, i don't take sugar. well, maybe i do. ok, you go on and drill the holes and i'll just pour another cup and wish it were t for 2" anyway, the most interesting thing about CF to me is her greek name *though the actual nymph was callisto, i believe), and the stymology of her last name: flockhart probably means a fuzzy dear, but to me it evokes a fluffy little valentine, perhaps with a little red-lit battery pump inside, quivering in your hands like a g-rated verwion of 'mexican god' awww... => lyv __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 18:47:19 -0700 From: Mark_Gloster@3com.com Subject: dissin' the skinny chyx I know that much of all this is a repeat of last time, so I thought I'd point out my personal totally unhip, non-pc view that I have a considerable appreciation for featherweight females. I would never recommend that people put their health in jeopardy to be thin, tho. About CF and that woman from The Practice- their facial musculature suggests that they are runners to me, but I don't have any idea what they eat. I would certainly consider watching their shows with the sound off if I had that kind of time. I think a lot of people obsess about other people's aspects without understanding their chemistry, diet, and lifestyle. Apparently I am brainwashed by a culture in which I don't participate. I am also working on shedding a few pounds. Heathenly yours, - -Markg ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 16:49:28 +1200 From: James Dignan Subject: Re: day & night review >the West Londoner huh? whereabouts in west London would that be? Cambridge? Winchester? The Isle of Wight? Highgate? It's about on par with saying Albuquerque is in Upstate New York! >the scathing "Fifthly Bird" Is that the one that goes: Who were the greatest Jazz muisicians - Going in order from one to five? Who were the greatest Jazz musicians - Those who are gone and those still alive? Louis was first, it's clear to see Ellington next, and Ella comes third, Fourth, must be Dizzy Gillespie And fifthy? Oh fifthly - Bird! James PS - I take it the IQU being mentioned is not the New Zealand mid-80s band that had a one-off hit with Witchcraft before disappearing overseas...? PPS - yes, Pet Clark is still around. James Dignan___________________________________ You talk to me Deptmt of Psychology, Otago University As if from a distance ya zhivu v' 50 Norfolk Street And I reply. . . . . . . . . . Dunedin, New Zealand with impressions chosen from another time steam megaphone (03) 455-7807 (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 01:24:07 -0400 (EDT) From: normal@grove.ufl.edu Subject: Re: Brian May's guitar, serious guitar geekdom content 110% On Wed, 1 Sep 1999 Mark_Gloster@3com.com wrote: > He > had his son go out with him to select a good piece of tone wood > (a tree.) They cut down the tree and shaped the body. Way I heard it, it was from a 100-year-old fireplace, and the plectrum was a two-pence coin. Terrence Marks Unlike Minerva (a comic strip) http://grove.ufl.edu/~normal normal@grove.ufl.edu ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Sep 1999 22:35:43 PDT From: "Capitalism Blows" Subject: eb all over the world yo, just listening to the 5/28/89 nigel and the crosses gig for the first time in a while. i'd forgotten how mindblowingly RIGHTEOUS this show is! if robyn is indeed going to tour with a band in the near future, why not an entire tour of nigel and the crosses? (assuming, of course, that that all the crosses are available. (but of course, *that* assumes that robyn = nigel.)) and if kimberley and tim k. want to join in, then, so much the better. that, and just received a new batch in which included a heart-stopper from 1985. god DAMN, but those boys were good! KEN "Long live the Egyptians!" THE KENSTER ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 14:51:44 +0100 (BST) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: Brian May's guitar, serious guitar geekdom content 110% On Thu, 2 Sep 1999 normal@grove.ufl.edu wrote: > Way I heard it, it was from a 100-year-old fireplace, and the plectrum was > a two-pence coin. Actually it was a sixpence (pre-decimal style = 2.5 decimal pee). This coin was a bit bigger than the current 5p piece - say 5/8" diameter. The reason he uses a sixpence is that it has a milled edge which gives some extra 'bite' when tickling the strings. Billy Gibbons of Z Z Top does the same thing, only he uses the equivalent US coin - a dime or a quarter, possibly? - - Mike Godwin PS for plectrum buffs: what is all this stuff about the Baby Jesus pick and the Virgin Mary pick which Hitchcock occasionally refers to? ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V8 #334 *******************************