From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V8 #330 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Sunday, August 29 1999 Volume 08 : Number 330 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: trade for Robyn 3-11-93 soundboard? [MARKEEFE@aol.com] Re: trade for Robyn 3-11-93 soundboard? [Alfred Masciocchi ] covers... [Natalie Jacobs ] queen ["jbranscombe@compuserve.com" ] Re: fegmaniax-digest V8 #329 ["Russ Reynolds" ] Re: covers... [Joel Mullins ] dinosaur whatever ["Andrew D. Simchik" ] Re: dinosaur whatever [Christopher Gross ] Re: dinosaur/bis [Eb ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 14:33:59 EDT From: MARKEEFE@aol.com Subject: Re: trade for Robyn 3-11-93 soundboard? In a message dated 8/27/99 7:43:22 PM Pacific Daylight Time, dlang@nexus.edu.au writes: << Attention trader Fegs I have a dat sbd master of the Robyn show at Big Star records in Adelaide in 93. Its about as good as a live show can get. I'll trade it for top quality Robyn recordings, preferably ones which are not widely circulated- aud or Sbd's. >> Okay, I searched the Asking Tree for the venue, the city, and both versions of the date (as March 11th and as Novemeber 3rd) and came up with nothing. Can you give us a setlist, Dave? Oh, and consider me potentially interested in a trade :-) - ------Michael K. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 15:07:16 -0400 From: Alfred Masciocchi Subject: Re: trade for Robyn 3-11-93 soundboard? I've got the date for this as 1 November, not 3 November, with the following track list: Driving Aloud (Radio Storm) Raymond Chandler Evening Cynthia Mask Madonna Of The Wasps Trash Serpent At The Gates Of Wisdom The Devil's Coachman Airscape My Wife And My Dead Wife Beautiful Girl I Something You The Yip Song Caroline I Often Dream Of Trains Chinese Bones Queen Of Eyes She Doesn't Exist Listening To The Higsons Beautiful Queen I Got A Message For You Wild Mountain Thyme Glass MARKEEFE@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 8/27/99 7:43:22 PM Pacific Daylight Time, > dlang@nexus.edu.au writes: > > << Attention trader Fegs > I have a dat sbd master of the Robyn show at Big Star records in > Adelaide in 93. Its about as good as a live show can get. I'll trade it > for top quality Robyn recordings, preferably ones which are not widely > circulated- aud or Sbd's. >> > > Okay, I searched the Asking Tree for the venue, the city, and both > versions of the date (as March 11th and as Novemeber 3rd) and came up with > nothing. Can you give us a setlist, Dave? Oh, and consider me potentially > interested in a trade :-) > > ------Michael K. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 13:22:43 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Queen/Susan's favorite topic Russ: >>I tend to like Queen's cute little piano songs, and that type of thing. I >>think Queen is kinda embarrassing, when they try to Rawk. A lot of their >>heavier songs just make me think, "Oh, shut UP, you silly poofs!" ;) > >in 100% agreement here. I wouldn't call the harder stuff on the earlier >albums Rawk, though, as most of the time there was a lot more going on than >yer basic three chord stuff. Let's call it "Prawg." But starting with News >Of The World they just got stupid, aiming for the lowest common denominator >(radio). Though it wasn't as heavy, A Day At The Races was actually the >first Queen album I had trouble with because it just seemed like they were >aiming too low. Obviously "Somebody To Love" was supposed to be the next >"Bohemian Rhapsody" but it just doesn't work with a consistent beat running >throughout the song. Well, actually, "Somebody to Love" is one of those "cute little piano songs" for me. It's one of my favorites, in fact. Though true, it is transparently contrived to be a "Bohemian Rhapsody" sequel. By "Rawk," I was talking more about the hard-rock songs which other people like a lot...for instance, "Tie Your Mother Down." That song does absolutely nothing for me: "Oh, shut UP!" I liked very few of Brian May's compositions. Just for the sake of argument, here's what I put on my Queen compilation tape: We Will Rock You/We Are the Champions, Keep Yourself Alive, Death on Two Legs, Killer Queen (*such* fun to play on piano), You Take My Breath Away, Lazing on a Sunday Afternoon, Long Away, You're My Best Friend, All Dead All Dead, The Millionaire Waltz, Lily of the Valley, Spread Your Wings, In the Lap of the Gods, Somebody to Love, Dear Friends, Liar, Seaside Rendezvous, Good Old Fashioned Lover Boy, Love of My Life, Teo Torriante (Let Us Cling Together), In the Lap of the Gods...Revisited, Good Company, It's Late and Bohemian what's-it-called. To be honest, I can't even recall how about half of these songs go at the moment, but I do recall that my more obscure choices leaned heavily toward piano and Mercury's campy, '20s-style stuff. So if you're curious about my favorite 25 Queen songs, I guess those are them. Oh, and I like "Under Pressure" but that's not strictly a Queen tune, and my friend didn't own Jazz, so I couldn't factor those songs into the equation (I know I would've taped "Bicycle Race"...is "Don't Stop Me Now" on that album too?). Incidentally, I think Queen is the *only* group I've compiled such a best-of tape for...I'm not one of those "mixed tape" fetishists, in the least. Hey, I got the Minders album on spinART yesterday. Woo, now I've finally heard this band! Add them to my list of cheerfully endorsed Elephant Six acts. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 16:29:40 -0400 (EDT) From: Natalie Jacobs Subject: covers... Back when I was a wee child (OK, in college) I listened to Luna's cover of Beat Happening's (?) "Indian Summer" many, many times and thought it was peachy. Delightful, in fact. Then a few days ago I heard the original for the first time on the radio. I thought it sucked a rat's ass. The lovely, child-like tones of DEEEEAAANN's Robin-the-frog voice, which suited the song so well, were replaced by a dull, expressionless baritone. Wow, the cover is way better! I thought. But then I thought, Would I like the cover so much if I had heard the original first? Maybe if I had heard the original first, I might curse the voice of DEEEEAAANN and think that it ruined the song. Sometimes it's hard to tell with these things. n. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 20:02:51 -0400 From: "jbranscombe@compuserve.com" Subject: queen Queen suck canine penises in Enfield. No offence to any Enfield fegs. jmbc. God Save The King. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 21:51:31 -0700 From: "Russ Reynolds" Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V8 #329 Eb posted: >JOHN DISCO INJURED IN GO-KART CRASH > >Bis' John Disco suffered a horrific injury to his testicles last week [details omitted] AAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!! People, we have got to draw the line somewhere! Let's talk about placenta recipes. Anything to change the subject. Woj, isn't there some kind of rule?? There really should be!! - -A. Guy ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 00:31:23 -0700 From: Joel Mullins Subject: Re: covers... Natalie Jacobs wrote: > > Back when I was a wee child (OK, in college) I listened to Luna's cover of > Beat Happening's (?) "Indian Summer" many, many times and thought it was > peachy. Delightful, in fact. > > Then a few days ago I heard the original for the first time on the radio. > I thought it sucked a rat's ass. Luna's version is definitely the best version of the song. Spectrum did a pretty cool version too. Joel ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 09:43:18 -0400 From: "Andrew D. Simchik" Subject: dinosaur whatever >From: "Ghost Surfer" > >All this talk of covers that are better than the originals... >Anything that Dinosaur Jr. have covered. I clearly don't "get" Dinosaur Jr. because I hated their "Just Like Heaven." >Yo La Tengo - "Dreaming" (actually, all YLT cover versions) What, even "Little Honda"? >R.E.M. - "Arms of >love" How could it possibly be? Oh, well, disagreement is the spice of...something. >From: Eb >Eb, hoping the new Bis album isn't as much of a sell-out as it appeared to >be on first skimming A sell-out to whom and for what? I think it's fantastic, but it's true that they've kind of put the Teen-C Power! stuff into the toybox in the closet for the time being. That's good; they could hardly have kept that up forever. Instead everything sounds much more produced, yes, but the tunes are at least as good as they used to be, and Bis seem as pissed off as always. Yippee! One potential sell-out point, probably not their idea: they're pushing "Detour" as a single. >JOHN DISCO INJURED IN GO-KART CRASH Wah! :( Drew - -- Andrew D. Simchik, wyrd@rochester.rr.com http://home.rochester.rr.com/wyrd/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 11:30:10 -0400 (EDT) From: Christopher Gross Subject: Re: dinosaur whatever On Sun, 29 Aug 1999, Andrew D. Simchik wrote: > >All this talk of covers that are better than the originals... > >Anything that Dinosaur Jr. have covered. > > I clearly don't "get" Dinosaur Jr. because I hated their > "Just Like Heaven." Before you give up on Dinosaur Jr., try their 1987 album _You're Living All Over Me_. Assuming, of course, you can find it; I don't think I've ever seen a copy on CD. - --Chris ______________________________________________________________________ Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 13:20:40 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: dinosaur/bis Drew: >I clearly don't "get" Dinosaur Jr. because I hated their >"Just Like Heaven." Not TOO Cure-fixated, eh? Judging a band by their cover songs is a woeful mistake. >>From: Eb > >>Eb, hoping the new Bis album isn't as much of a sell-out as it appeared to >>be on first skimming > >A sell-out to whom and for what? > >I think it's fantastic, but it's true that they've kind of put the Teen-C >Power! >stuff into the toybox in the closet for the time being. That's good; they >could >hardly have kept that up forever. Instead everything sounds much more >produced, >yes, but the tunes are at least as good as they used to be, and Bis seem as >pissed off as always. Yippee! Coincidentally, I *just* got through listening to this album for the first time. I think it's just short of dreadful, and one of the biggest disappointments of the year. "Sellout" is an overused word and I always avoid saying it, but in this case, you betcha. You need look no further than the artificially "slimmed" pictures of Manda Rin in the artwork to know what's going on here. Paging Paula Abdul.... I thought the last album was a helluva lotta fun. This one is a complete snore. Almost everything which excited me about The New Transistor Heroes is now gone. The lyrics may retain a mild degree of punk brattiness (though yes, they jettisoned their whole Teen-C manifesto altogether), but it's the music where the album really falls flat. Overprocessed vocals, oversynthesized music, everything smoothed over with a numbing New Wave glaze...Andy Gill is the producer, and I can't help thinking about what a similar travesty Gang of Four's Hard was, back in the day. There's not a single song here which I consider memorable. Sum it up this way: On the infamous Ebscale(tm), I'd give this album *three* points lower than the previous one. That sharp a dropoff is very uncommon with me. Two short, more general comments: 1. Got a copy of the new High Llamas album yesterday (title: Snowbug). Can't wait to hear it, but I probably won't have time to play it for a couple of weeks. 2. Hot damn, this Owsley album just keeps on growing on me. The shelflife of these hooks is unbelievable. Eb, feeling awash this year in mediocre albums by bands he once really liked (Sebadoh, Blur, Poi Dog Pondering, Frank Black, Ben Folds Five, the Muffs, 10000 Maniacs, Ween, Kristin Hersh, They Might Be Giants, Guided By Voices...) ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V8 #330 *******************************