From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V8 #323 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Tuesday, August 24 1999 Volume 08 : Number 323 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: White Album v. Pet Sounds [Joel Mullins ] Re: You think *I* am a record-ranking weenie? Well... ;) [Joel Mullins ] Re: You think *I* am a record-ranking weenie? Well... ;) [Joel Mullins ] Re: On a mision [Bayard ] Return of the Depressed Gap Kids [Tom Clark ] Re: Return of the Depressed Gap Kids [Tom Clark ] Delightful berries, despotic froggies ["JH3" ] RE: You think *I* am a record-ranking weenie? Well... ;) ["Partridge, Joh] MMT ["JH3" ] Re: MMT [tanter@tarleton.edu] Les Boys [tanter@tarleton.edu] Re: Les Boys [Bayard ] RE: les boys ["Thomas, Ferris" ] Re: You think *I* am a record-ranking weenie? Well... ;) [Joel Mullins ] missing bits [Livia Drusilla ] Re: Return of the Depressed Gap Kids [Ken Ostrander ] cream tangerine [Livia Drusilla ] Re: cream tangerine ["JH3" ] holes in the sky [Livia Drusilla ] holes in the sky [Livia Drusilla ] holes in the sky [Livia Drusilla ] Re: Pet Sounds [Jeff Dwarf ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 22:57:17 -0700 From: Joel Mullins Subject: Re: White Album v. Pet Sounds MARKEEFE@aol.com wrote: > So, have you just *heard* "Pet Sounds" or have you really given it a > thoroughly listening? I mean, alone, listening intently, two or three times? > It's not the kind of album that a friend throws on and you sorta talk and > halfway listen and the like. I bought the CD, listened to it alone in the dark through headphones, alone in the light through headphones, alone in the dark without headphones, and then alone in the light without headphones. Then I may have listened to it alone in the car, and maybe with a friend or two at some point. I just never could get into it. I don't think the album sucks or anything. There are some real gems on there. "God Only Knows" is probably one of the most beautiful songs ever recorded. Even Olivia Newton-John's version is great, which means that the song is well-written, not only well-produced and all that. But overall, Pet Sounds just didn't turn me on. Maybe it will someday. Joel ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 23:29:29 -0700 From: Joel Mullins Subject: Re: You think *I* am a record-ranking weenie? Well... ;) Eb wrote: > >Bah. "Sugar Sugar" was maddeningly catchy too. > > Yes, and that was a great single too. Not a great *song*, but a great > single. Everytime it comes on the Oldies station, I can't help but sing along. > 1. Beatles/White Album: brilliant. Probably my third favorite Beatles > record, after Revolver and Sgt. Pepper. Am I the only one that thinks Abbey Road is the best Beatles album? Not that it matters. I mean, Rubber Soul and Revolver are such a close second and third that it might as well be a tie. And I don't think I hear many people mention Magical Mystery Tour, which I think is just wonderful. > Yup, I get a kick out of "Why Don't We Do It in the Road?" > and "Wild Honey Pie," and I'm always fascinated by "Revolution #9." Heck, > you could've almost stretched this into a triple album, adding "Hey Jude," > the rocking "Revolution," "Not Guilty," "Goodbye," "Junk," "You Know My > Name (Look Up The Number)," "What's the New Mary Jane".... Agreed! > 2. Beach Boys/Pet Sounds: simply godlike, even better than The White Album. > I still wonder if *any* of the album's naysayers have substantial knowledge > of music theory and chords. Sorry Eb, but I'm a naysayer and I spent several years studying everything from barbershop to opera. I have substantial knowledge of music theory and chords. And I do respect Brian Wilson. The album just doesn't turn me on. I can't say exactly why. Joel ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 01:33:24 -0400 (EDT) From: normal@grove.ufl.edu Subject: Re: You think *I* am a record-ranking weenie? Well... ;) On Mon, 23 Aug 1999, Eb wrote: > (And these gripes are coming from someone who worships the writer of > "Mellow Yellow"?) As opposed to the writer of "Monkberry Moon Delight"? If Steve Roback wrote a song about sitting in the attic with a piano up his nose, you'd still be making fun of me about it. And I still say you can't find an album packaged better than "Gift". Only thing I've seen that comes close is Enigk's "Return of the Frog Queen". > Oh, so you think a certain song might have been more popular if it had been > promoted more. Wow, there's a rarity. No. It's not about that. It's about over-ratedness and how association with the Beatles automatically gives a song icon status. Many people I know will more readily accept a song if they think it's by the Beatles. > >You'd say that about any modern artist. > > Wake up and smell the java, Terrence. Your musical passions probably show > less variety than those of anyone else on the list, and the common thread > is Beatles, Beatles, Beatles. Albeit a certain emasculated, wispy version > of them.... Hrm. Perhaps you missed the sarcasm of the "now playing" list. Perhaps I missed the slavish Beatlesqueness of Isao Tomita, Enoch Light, The Soft Machine, Syd Barrett, Yes, Duran Duran's "Medazzaland", Stevie Wonder, The Tragically Hip, Madness, The Beach Boys, Tintern Abbey, Spirit, Sopwith Camel's "Miraculous Hump", Big Star's "Third", The Incredible String Band, The High Llamas (that's slavishly Mancinesque and Wilsonesque. No Beatles involved), The Pretty Things, Jeremy Enigk, The Kinks, and Fever Tree. Psych-pop was not copyrighted by John Lennon and Paul McCartney. My song-of-the-day is Ron-de-vous' "Trip So Wild". I'll grant you that one. Oh, and please go over to http://www.worldcharts.com/hvote.html?add=[1541] and vote for my strip. If I get to #20 or higher by my birthday, I'm drawing the next two weeks myself. I'm at #39 now and need more votes. Terrence Marks Unlike Minerva (a comic strip) http://grove.ufl.edu/~normal normal@grove.ufl.edu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 22:56:32 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: You think *I* am a record-ranking weenie? Well... ;) Terrence: >And I still say you can't find an album packaged better than "Gift". Only >thing I've seen that comes close is Enigk's "Return of the Frog Queen". Um...WHO GIVES A DAMN? So, send a bouquet of flowers to Epic's art department! Maybe you're a bigger fan of them than Donovan himself, I dunno. Meanwhile, I can't *imagine* what is so uniquely extravagant about the Enigk album's art. >No. It's not about that. It's about over-ratedness and how association >with the Beatles automatically gives a song icon status. Many people I >know will more readily accept a song if they think it's by the Beatles. There are good reasons why the Beatles are still legendary, and the Bonzo Dog Band is a cult item, Terrence. >Hrm. Perhaps you missed the sarcasm of the "now playing" list. >Perhaps I missed the slavish Beatlesqueness of Isao Tomita, Enoch Light, >The Soft Machine, Syd Barrett, Yes, Duran Duran's "Medazzaland", Stevie >Wonder, The Tragically Hip, Madness, The Beach Boys, Tintern Abbey, >Spirit, Sopwith Camel's "Miraculous Hump", Big Star's "Third", The >Incredible String Band, The High Llamas (that's slavishly Mancinesque and >Wilsonesque. No Beatles involved), The Pretty Things, Jeremy Enigk, The >Kinks, and Fever Tree. You *really* don't get it, do you? *Heavy* unities running through that list. Wake up. Java. >Psych-pop was not copyrighted by John Lennon and Paul McCartney. Maybe not. On the other hand, the homogenity of your tastes remains striking. And stop CCing me your posts. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 23:28:16 -0700 From: West Subject: Re: Pet Sounds MARKEEFE@aol.com wrote: > It's very life-affirming somehow .. . and not in that dramatic way that stops > people from jumping off of bridges Which is pretty amazing when you consider what a melancholy downer most of the lyrics are. I think that's one of the enduring charms of the album for me -- it sort of makes it okay to feel down now and then. Just so you don't make a career out of it. (That means you, Robert Smith! [Kidding.] ) I didn't get into it myself at first. One day I switched it on and I just "got it". Since then it's been one of the cornerstones of my music collection. That's actually happened a few times -- not fully appreciating an album at first, and then suddenly a light bulb goes on in your brain. I really like when that happens. Am I rambling? Somethingly, West. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 02:25:51 -0700 From: Joel Mullins Subject: Re: You think *I* am a record-ranking weenie? Well... ;) normal@grove.ufl.edu wrote: > > On Mon, 23 Aug 1999, Eb wrote: > > > (And these gripes are coming from someone who worships the writer of > > "Mellow Yellow"?) > > As opposed to the writer of "Monkberry Moon Delight"? It wouldn't matter a damn bit to me who wrote this song. It fucking rocks! Of course, it is Paul's voice that makes the song. I get chills when he starts screaming. > No. It's not about that. It's about over-ratedness and how association > with the Beatles automatically gives a song icon status. Many people I > know will more readily accept a song if they think it's by the Beatles. So it's just like this list. People on this list will "more readily accept a song if they think it's by" Robyn Hitchcock. You're right about what you're saying, Terrence. But you can't take a song out of its context. It just doesn't work that way. Joel ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 09:32:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Terrence M Marks Subject: Re: You think *I* am a record-ranking weenie? Well... ;) On Tue, 24 Aug 1999, Joel Mullins wrote: > > So it's just like this list. People on this list will "more readily > accept a song if they think it's by" Robyn Hitchcock. You're right I never said I was any better. > about what you're saying, Terrence. But you can't take a song out of > its context. It just doesn't work that way. Why not? Art should be able to stand on its own. Terrence Marks Unlike Minerva (a comic strip) http://grove.ufl.edu/~normal normal@grove.ufl.edu ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 10:05:29 -0500 From: "Gene Hopstetter, Jr." Subject: Re: But whose bra is she wearing? >From: hal brandt >Subject: Re: But whose bra is she wearing? > > > Sex, Dwarves and Rock n' Roll! > >They need look no further: > >http://www.hankthedwarf.com/ Well, if they plan to add a little exercise and drama into their show, they need: http://www.jollydwarf.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 16:48:35 +0000 From: "Tony Blackman" Subject: On a mision If I didn't mishear, someone said; "I remember that Wayne Hussey (Sisters of Mercy, Mission UK) used to say that the "height of cool" for him would be to have his drugs delivered to him onstage (on a silver platter) by a tuxedo-clad dwarf. So these guys aren't even being all that original... What's more, I don't think ol' Wayne ever had another hit, after saying that." Funnily enough, The Mission (UK if you must) have just cropped up on a U2 Tribute Album called 'We Will Follow', they do "All I Want Is You". The most remarakable track on the CD is the version of "New Year's Day" by The Front Line Assembly with Tiffany (yes THAT Tiffany). I take back everything I said about her in 1987, I really like this version, she's managed to drag herself up from where she used to be!) There's also a Heaven 17 track (With or Without You). Worth a listen if you get the chance.... (Quail, others..) Tony. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 11:56:16 -0400 (EDT) From: Bayard Subject: Re: On a mision > Funnily enough, The Mission (UK if you must) have just cropped up on a U2 > Tribute Album called 'We Will Follow', they do "All I Want Is You". The > most remarakable track on the CD is the version of "New Year's Day" by The > Front Line Assembly with Tiffany (yes THAT Tiffany). Is it as good as the Circle Jerks' and Debbie Gibson's "I wanna destroy you"? (which i still haven't heard, btw... anyone??) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 09:12:52 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Return of the Depressed Gap Kids Coincedently, Eb writes: >(And these gripes are coming from someone who worships the writer of >"Mellow Yellow"?) Last night I witnessed Phase II of the new GAP commercials. This time they're all sitting around in grey shirts and corduroy pants singing "Mellow Yellow". Fucking horrendous. - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 09:25:16 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Return of the Depressed Gap Kids On 8/24/99 9:12 AM, I wrote: >Last night I witnessed Phase II of the new GAP commercials. This time >they're all sitting around in grey shirts and corduroy pants singing >"Mellow Yellow". Fucking horrendous. oh yeah, and if you look closely, in the background there's a curly haired chick wearing nothing but a pair of oversized boxers! - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 11:31:27 -0500 From: "JH3" Subject: Delightful berries, despotic froggies >As opposed to the writer of "Monkberry Moon Delight"? >If Steve Roback wrote a song about sitting in the attic with >a piano up his nose, you'd still be making fun of me about it. This is just not fair! "Monkberry Moon Delight" is a serious song with an important message! Just because the problem of pianos getting stuck up people's noses was largely solved by the late 70's (at least here in the West where we could afford those enormous research budgets) doesn't make the song any less poignant and meaningful! And how many times have we ALL been stuck in the bathroom while someone outside (possibly Roback himself!) was singing a dreadful cantata? That problem is STILL with us, despite all the efforts of modern science to solve it! >>And I still say you can't find an album packaged better than "Gift". >>Only thing I've seen that comes close is Enigk's "Return of the >>Frog Queen". >Meanwhile, I can't *imagine* what is so uniquely extravagant >about the Enigk album's art... I can't either. I own that album myself - did I get some sort of pre-release limited edition version or something? The front is just the title and the artist's name inside a simple fleur-de-lis on a plain dark-grey background, isn't it? What's more, I don't understand what all the critical acclaim for the music is about, either - the songs are (imo) just okay, and I agree that they're not very Beatlesque, but I was led to believe there was an unusually high degree of elaborate orchestral instrumentation on 'em. Maybe that's true on, like, two songs, but the rest seem to be just him and an acoustic guitar or piano, with maybe a flute or an oboe thrown in for texture's sake. Compared to something like "The Soft Bulletin," it's practically minimalistic (though I'll admit, most records are minimalistic compared to THAT). Nothing special, if you ask me... >Last night I witnessed Phase II of the new GAP commercials. >This time they're all sitting around in grey shirts and corduroy >pants singing "Mellow Yellow". Fucking horrendous. Well, at least Horrendous had a good time. John H. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 09:41:35 -0700 From: "Partridge, John" Subject: RE: You think *I* am a record-ranking weenie? Well... ;) > 2. Beach Boys/Pet Sounds: simply godlike, even better than > The White Album. > I still wonder if *any* of the album's naysayers have > substantial knowledge > of music theory and chords. I don't want to come off too > proggie-woggie > here, but I really think this one's a case of "the more you > know the more > amazing it is." The wonders go a *lot* deeper than mere vocal > harmonies. Please expand on this. I don't have the musical knowledge or vocabulary to articulate what sounds different about some of these songs but I can *hear* the difference and I know it has something to do with the musical structure. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 11:48:44 -0500 From: "JH3" Subject: MMT Joel M. writes: >And I don't think I hear many people mention Magical >Mystery Tour, which I think is just wonderful. Yeah, why IS that? Magical Mystery Tour is my favorite Beatles album - maybe not a hands-down, nothing-comes-close favorite, but definitely my favorite. I mean, it's got "I Am the Walrus," "Blue Jay Way," "Your Mother Should Know"... but the critics keep ranking it in the middle of the pack at best, sometimes lower. I could never understand that. (Maybe if they'd included "Strawberry Fields" and "Penny Lane" on it, it would get more respect...) JH3 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 11:57:21 -0500 (CDT) From: tanter@tarleton.edu Subject: Re: MMT It's because they're jealous, John. If only they could write as well.... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 11:56:31 -0500 (CDT) From: tanter@tarleton.edu Subject: Les Boys I love fegmaniax very much and I cherish the time we all spend together, but I must protest this ridiculous attempt to suggest that the Beach Boys (excuse me while I cough) can, in any way, hold a candle to the Beatles. It goes without saying that the Beatles have effected the world in ways the Beach Boys could only dream about. I went through a Beach Boys phase when I was about 12 but mericifully it ended. Paul McCartney may not be the world's greatest singer, he may be mushy, but he is the ultimate, as far as I'm concerned, and while John Lennon is Robyn's more obvious mentor, I"m pleased that even Robyn Hitchcock, a boy from Southern England, acknowledges the debt he owes to the Beatles although some of his greatest fans have not yet felt The Force. ;) Marcy ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 13:16:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Bayard Subject: Re: Les Boys > I love fegmaniax very much and I cherish the time we all spend together, > but I must protest this ridiculous attempt to suggest that the Beach Boys > (excuse me while I cough) can, in any way, hold a candle to the Beatles. oh, shit... here we go again.... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 13:44:32 -0400 From: "Thomas, Ferris" Subject: RE: les boys Marcy incited: > I must protest this ridiculous attempt to suggest that > the Beach Boys > (excuse me while I cough) can, in any way, hold a candle to > the Beatles. Amen, sister. > far as I'm concerned, and while John Lennon is Robyn's more obvious > mentor, Im pleased that even Robyn Hitchcock Does anyone not hear the echoes of the White Album on Mr. Tongs? They're on more than one (two, three plus) levels. - -ferris "I Never Was Much of a Beach Boys Fan Anyway" > _________________________________________ > Ferris Scott Thomas > programmer > > (860) 409-2612 > McGraw-Hill Technology Division > Farmington, CT > mailto:ferris_thomas@mcgraw-hill.com (work) > mailto:ferris@snet.net (home) > http://pages.cthome.net/hellhollow/ > Capitalism is man exploiting man, while socialism is the reverse. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 13:33:15 -0700 From: Joel Mullins Subject: Re: You think *I* am a record-ranking weenie? Well... ;) Terrence M Marks wrote: > > about what you're saying, Terrence. But you can't take a song out of > > its context. It just doesn't work that way. > > Why not? Art should be able to stand on its own. But it doesn't. Nothing does. Art can't exist without the artist. You're right that if Ob-La-Di had been written and released by some no name band, it probably wouldn't have ever been heard. But you could also say that if Revolver were released today by some popular band, it might be a flop, both critically and commercially. The fact is that Revolver was released by the Beatles in '66 and it's impossible to separate the album from that fact. Look at most of the stuff on MTV these days. Is it popular because it's great music or because it's on MTV? I agree with what you're saying, Terrence. I just don't think it's anything we have any control over. I've often thought to myself, "if someone played me JfS and I had no idea who this Robyn guy was, would I like it?" Frankly, I'd probably think it's just okay. It's not a terrific album in my opinion, and the fact that it's Robyn Hitchcock is probably the only reason I'm still giving it a chance. Joel ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 13:47:09 -0700 From: Joel Mullins Subject: Re: Les Boys tanter@tarleton.edu wrote: > > I love fegmaniax very much and I cherish the time we all spend together, > but I must protest this ridiculous attempt to suggest that the Beach Boys > (excuse me while I cough) can, in any way, hold a candle to the Beatles. > It goes without saying that the Beatles have effected the world in ways > the Beach Boys could only dream about. I went through a Beach Boys phase > when I was about 12 but mericifully it ended. Paul McCartney may not be > the world's greatest singer, he may be mushy, but he is the ultimate, as > far as I'm concerned, and while John Lennon is Robyn's more obvious > mentor, I"m pleased that even Robyn Hitchcock, a boy from Southern > England, acknowledges the debt he owes to the Beatles although some of his > greatest fans have not yet felt The Force. Bravo Marcy!!!! And by the way, Paul *is* the world's greatest singer (of rock n roll at least). Listen to "Yesterday." Actually, listen to the White Album. I've never heard anyone else go from beautiful (Blackbird) to intensely screaming (Helter Skelter) so quickly. His voice is beautiful, he has an outstanding range, and he's the king of versatility. Joel ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 12:32:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Livia Drusilla Subject: missing bits Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 10:03:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: right now > --- lj lindhurst wrote: > > I think everyone should know that right now I am > >wearing a certain Mr. J.A. Brelin's underpants! And I was going to ask for those back... sheesh. I was wondering why these wool pants were so itchy. Seriously, how many did I leave over there? I seem to be rather shorton shorts these days. I wish I had something of yours to arrange in some kind of hostagetrade. What do you need? i need some shorts, too, amazingly enough. all i have is some old men's boxers, suitable for sleeping in but a bit flimsy for public appearances. ah, but there's a discount place just up the block from here... On Mon, 23 Aug 1999, Vivien Lyon wrote: > Right on, mama! I'm wearing one of his socks!And my > left foot's all sweaty. and i'm wearing my sweetie's tie and a very old depeche mode violator t-shirt, among other things but no hat. [only headphones and a copy of eye] I have to start keeping track of my underthings. er, ok. mine have poinsettias on them. but it's not even boxing day (pout, sigh), alas. or hey, maybe it is, in some imaginary new calendar. and maybe thanksgiving is tomorrow and guy fawkes somewhere in between. whee! I guess I'll have to swing by the supermaket and pick up some more onthe way home.J. A(No dot here) Brelin guess i'll have to be a good girl and buy some more cheeze. you never know when you might need to ring that shaly old alarm. [hmph. i am not a shaky old fellow, says one r or the othger, and the other gets to go be a furry b for a bit.] => lyv live and doing quite nicely for someone so short on sleep and proper discipline. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 16:22:34 -0400 From: Ken Ostrander Subject: Re: Return of the Depressed Gap Kids >>Last night I witnessed Phase II of the new GAP commercials. This time >>they're all sitting around in grey shirts and corduroy pants singing >>"Mellow Yellow". Fucking horrendous. > >oh yeah, and if you look closely, in the background there's a curly >haired chick wearing nothing but a pair of oversized boxers! hmmm...that almost makes me want to watch it again. this one is worse than the 'dress you up' attrocity. can someone explain to me why they picked that song? i mean, no one's wearing yellow. maybe they all smoked some banana peels? ken "hurdy gurdy man" the kenster np. in the aeroplane over the sea neutral milk hotel ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 13:24:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Livia Drusilla Subject: cream tangerine Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 16:59:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Terrence M Marks Subject: Re: You think *I* am a record-ranking weenie? Well... ;) On Mon, 23 Aug 1999, Capitalism Blows wrote: > what are we to make of a guy that calls the beatles > the second-most "over-rated musicians of all times"? but who are the first-most-overrated? They are pretty dang overrated, in my opinion. Were "Ob-la-di" by some unknown band on a Rubble disc, none of my contemporaries would even _consider_ listening to it. As is, they think it's just boss.\ but it's such a sweet little song. and the "barrow in the marketplace" makes me think of the cover of invisible hitchcock, the original barrow-boy in all his manifestations. who could resist sinister, pleading, and a big goofy grin all in one easy-fold triptych? not me, that's 4 sure. => lyv, in her usual barrow-girl guise, if minus the hat for the moment. (it stayed home with the cats and the stereo and the dirty dishes, like a good little house-husband, if not very useful for actually washing them. but it does a dandy job of watching over important documents abd just-the-right cd for the next installment of the 24-hour lrh show: rarae mundus aviae, lydia gets homer's goat, copper trumps an ironic phee, and so on. it's a variety act and a half, especially if you define a half as about 1.779. whee ha ho, and off to lunch sometyme soon. => livia octaviana, all hail J __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 15:35:33 -0500 From: "JH3" Subject: Re: cream tangerine >> what are we to make of a guy that calls the beatles >> the second-most "over-rated musicians of all times"? >but who are the first-most-overrated? Elvis Presley, according to this Scaruffi guy. Just don't tell J Branscombe, or he'll have a fit! Personally, I think it all just goes back to the pointlessness of making Top (whatever) lists, but don't get me started on THAT. - -JH3 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 13:41:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Livia Drusilla Subject: holes in the sky Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 17:13:24 -0800From: Eb Subject: Re: uno mas review>"Viva viva viva viva >Sea-Tac, They've got the best computers and coffee and smack.... This sure is the "I'll fuck you 'til your dick is blue/F-U-C-K Is that how you spell friend in your dictionary?"-style soundbite of this album,ain't it? Every damn review quotes it.FWB,Eb yeah, but i often change it to "crack", just to be an err head, so if that variant ever crops up, y'all will know where it came from. not that i've ever tried either crack or heroin, mind you, but i quite enjoy blueberry jam. (now playing in my brain: flesh and blood) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 13:44:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Livia Drusilla Subject: holes in the sky Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 17:13:24 -0800From: Eb Subject: Re: uno mas review>"Viva viva viva viva >Sea-Tac, They've got the best computers and coffee and smack.... This sure is the "I'll fuck you 'til your dick is blue/F-U-C-K Is that how you spell friend in your dictionary?"-style soundbite of this album,ain't it? Every damn review quotes it.FWB,Eb yeah, but i often change it to "crack", just to be an err head, so if that variant ever crops up, y'all will know where it came from. not that i've ever tried either crack or heroin, mind you, but i quite enjoy blueberry jam. (now playing in my brain: flesh and blood) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 13:42:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Livia Drusilla Subject: holes in the sky Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 17:13:24 -0800From: Eb Subject: Re: uno mas review>"Viva viva viva viva >Sea-Tac, They've got the best computers and coffee and smack.... This sure is the "I'll fuck you 'til your dick is blue/F-U-C-K Is that how you spell friend in your dictionary?"-style soundbite of this album,ain't it? Every damn review quotes it.FWB,Eb yeah, but i often change it to "crack", just to be an err head, so if that variant ever crops up, y'all will know where it came from. not that i've ever tried either crack or heroin, mind you, but i quite enjoy blueberry jam. (now playing in my brain: flesh and blood) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 13:40:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: Pet Sounds West wrote: > I think that's one of the enduring charms of the album for me > -- it sort of makes it okay to feel down now and then. Just > so you don't make a career out of it. (That means you, Robert > Smith! [Kidding.] ) hey, the cure have lots of happy songs. like "friday i'm in love" and, errm, eh, well, the one on the last album that sounded just like "Friday i'm in love" and ummmm the mariachi pastiche one on the last album. and truth be known, most of the "depressing" cure songs are actually "incredibly f**king pissed off" cure songs. so there! [and yes, i know you were kidding.] and besides, you meant andrew eldritch! === "America's greatest natural resource, still, to this day, is the moron" --Martin Mull __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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