From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V8 #303 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Thursday, August 12 1999 Volume 08 : Number 303 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Hep me, hep me brainstorm [David Librik ] Re: belated JfS debate [Eb ] Re: Hep me, hep me brainstorm ["D B" ] Re: Hep me, hep me brainstorm [HSatterfld@aol.com] Re: Hep me, hep me brainstorm ["Sedgwick, Gary" ] Mmm... prohhhhtessst... [edoxtato@intentia.com] Re: Hep me, hep me brainstorm [fred is ted ] setlist for MABD in Austin? ["Gene Hopstetter, Jr." ] 0% robyn content/brain function... [Stephen Buckalew ] Re: Hep me, hep me brainstorm [Christopher Gross ] Re: Hep me, hep me brainstorm [Stephen Buckalew ] Re: Baader Meinhof ? ["JH3" ] Re: Hep me, hep me brainstorm [Christopher Gross ] RE: Baader Meinhof ? ["Chaney, Dolph L" ] Re: belated JfS debate [ultraconformist@mail.weboffices.com] Re: My other Cars a GBV. [Bayard ] Protest Songs [Glen Uber ] Re: Hep me, hep me brainstorm ["Ariel Green" ] Millepedant [Vivien Lyon ] Julian Lennon Tour [Michael Brage ] Re: My other Cars a GBV. [Capuchin ] Re: Baader Meinhof ? [Capuchin ] Re: protest [dmw ] Re: Baader Meinhof ? [Mark_Gloster@3com.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 00:13:48 -0500 From: David Librik Subject: Re: Hep me, hep me brainstorm For old stuff, find a copy of _Rise Up Singing_, a familiar collection of folk and protest songs from the last 200-300 years. Flipping through it will definitely set off brainstorms and remind you of what you're forgetting. I'm assuming you mean political protest songs. See, the Violent Femmes' "Add It Up" is definitely protesting something... - - (Why can't I get just one) Dave Librik ? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 23:43:24 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: belated JfS debate JH3: >>>on the album it all came out like lumpy jello pudding. > >...And Eb replied: >>That's exactly what I've always complained more generally, about Robyn's >>lingering adherence to '80s post-gothic reverb. This is one thing about JfS >>which really pleases me -- the '80s hangover is finally gone. Hooray for >>Jon Brion. > >No offense, but I read Susan's post pretty carefully, and I didn't make >any connection between "lumpy jello pudding" and "post-gothic reverb" >whatsoever... I did. Care to clarify, Susan? And I would definitely say that Perspex Island is Robyn's worst produced record, after Groovy Decay. >So Eb, are you sure it isn't because you >heard so many bad shoegazer albums during the 80's that you just >got sick of it? Shoegazing is mostly the early '90s, baby. And I still like Ride, Lush and My Bloody Valentine (not to mention the current standard-bearer, Spiritualized). I don't really get "sick" of music, if I like it. What I have *never* liked is the posturing, calculatedly theatric, overwrought, post-Bowie school in the UK, stretching through Siouxsie, Bauhaus, Duran Duran, the Smiths, the Cure, etc etc etc and currently upheld by groups like the Manic Street Preachers, the Verve, the London Suede and Mansun. It all rings very, very hollow to me...I'm very sensitive to mannered vocals and the stench of post-goth production. And unfortunately for me, Robyn has used a milder form of the latter extensively. >Now, after a quick check of the archives, Eb also opined that Dark >Princess and Jewels for Sophia were "the only tracks [on J4S] which >feel like substantial additions to his catalog. A lot of the others seem >fairly one-dimensional." So is it just me, or aren't those the only two >songs on the album where the reverb is noticeably turned *up*? Well, like I said, a lot of the songwriting on the album didn't move me much. I think what it comes down to is that musically, those two tracks felt like something new to me. The diminished, downshifting chords of "Dark Princess" seem like a new musical idea for Robyn (um...yay), and I could say similar things about the title song. And those handclaps really DO get to me. Also, the lyrics of these tunes weren't as gimmicky. So, yes, those are still my favorites, reverb or no. I'm fairly iffy about the first half of the album. >rUss: >>for a great list check "Those Fabulous Sixties"...the hilarious >>KTEL style ad narrated by "Bob Dylan" > >That was originally on "National Lampoon's Radio Dinner," or >some such NatLamp album. Right, Radio Dinner. Also home to the absolutely essential "Magical Misery Tour," which every mammal should hear at least once. Just back from another Hang Ups show, which was much more local. It was a good lesson why touring bands don't usually stop in Orange County: about 10 people were there. Oof. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 04:14:33 PDT From: "D B" Subject: Re: Hep me, hep me brainstorm > > > > > > this is the second mention i've seen of it, and i've > > gotta say, this song > > really bugs the shit out of me (though neil young's > > version is pretty > > monumental). what in fuck is "the answer is blowin' > > in the wind" supposed > > to mean? it's just hippie bullshit, if you ask me. > > "the answer's blowin' > > in the wind, man, so let's just go get stoned > > again." instead of > > organising. instead of protesting. fuck that. Hippie bullshit? Give me a break. It's called poetry, metaphor, and it's what lends the song its universal quality, not to mention its power of expression. Look at the questions Dylan raises and the 'answer' might strike you a little more clearly. Case in point: "How many times can a man turn his head, pretending he just doesn't see...?" ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 09:13:17 EDT From: HSatterfld@aol.com Subject: Re: Hep me, hep me brainstorm >Give me some ideas: What are the greatest protest songs of all time? They >do NOT have to be from the rock 'n' roll era. Email or post, I don't care >which. "Ain't Gonna Piss In No Jar" by Mojo Nixon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 14:08:15 +0100 From: "Sedgwick, Gary" Subject: Re: Hep me, hep me brainstorm >Give me some ideas: What are the greatest protest songs of all time? They >do NOT have to be from the rock 'n' roll era. Email or post, I don't care >which. Okay, you've got some Bob tunes, but the following ones along with Masters Of War lean towards 'protest' more than Blowin' In The Wind: The Lonesome Death of Hattie Carrol Hurricane Lenny Bruce Who Killed Davey Moore (sp?) My Back Pages Down In The Flood (is that the correct title? The one that starts, "Oh mama you gonna miss your best friend now / You better find yourself another best friend somehow") possibly A Hard Rain's A Gonna Fall and possibly It's Alright Ma (I'm Only Bleeding) John Lennon had a few from the early 70s: John Sinclair Bring On The Lucie (Freeda People) (sp?) Power To The People Give Peace A Chance I think's been mentioned - could Imagine? That song implies that religion and politics help divide people. There's all the late Pink Floyd / Roger Waters stuff as well. Animals is more or less a protest album, and you could say a few songs on The Wall fit the bill. And The Final Cut. And Us And Them on Dark Side. Other *possibles*: The Kinks - The Moneygoround (well, a protest against the music industry. In fact that whole album has references to it). And Apeman. And some songs on Arthur, like Yes Sir, No Sir, Some Mother's Son, Brainwashed, and Mr. Churchill Says. The Stones - Street Fighting Man Pulp - Common People What's Going On could be the greatest protest album of all time. And in the 'not great songs' category, Michael Jackson has had a few. And do I mention Legalized Murder?... Gary PS I'm sure I'll think of some more. ____________________________________________________ Gary Sedgwick MKIRisk Midas-Kapiti International 1 St. George's Road Tel: +44 (208) 879 1188 Wimbledon Fax: +44 (208) 944 7963 London Direct: +44 (208) 486 1662 SW19 4DR Email: sedgwicg@midas-kapiti.com UK ____________________________________________________ (The views and opinions expressed in this email message are the sender's own, and do not necessarily represent the view and opinions of Midas-Kapiti International Ltd. This message and/or any attached documents may contain Privileged and Confidential Information and should only be read by those persons to whom this message is addressed.) .:. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 15:24:21 +0100 (BST) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: protest On Thu, 12 Aug 1999, James Dignan wrote: > ... There's also a > good French one called "Monsieur le President" (don't know who did it, but > there's an extraordinarily difficult to obtain translated version by Bill > Direen). OK, how about 'The President' by Robyn Hitchcock and the Egyptians? And what about that one with the chorus: If you're white, you're all right If you're brown stick around But if you're black, brother Get back get back get back! - - Mike G. * * * * * * Peter Cook: We have with us this evening the newly appointed Lord Chamberlain. Lord Cobbold, what is your opinion of censorship in the theatre? Dudley Moore: Censorship in the theatre. Well, frankly I feel there's far too much sex and violence gets by in the name of entertainment these days. I mean, I go to the theatre to be entertained. I want to be taken out of myself. I don't want to see lust and rape, incest and sodomy - I can get all that at home. * * * * * * ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 14:44:30 GMT From: edoxtato@intentia.com Subject: Mmm... prohhhhtessst... Why does Eb wanna know about protest songs? Well... I can think of (some of these may have already been posted): Traditional "We Shall Not Be Moved" About 2/3rds of the Midnight Oil catalog The Jazz Butcher: "Happy Birthday Dear Mr. President", "The Jazz Butcher VS. The Prime Minister", "Sixteen Years" General Public, "Stand Down Margaret" I'm sure Julian Cope musta penned a few, he didn't think much of the Iron Lady either Pink Floyd "The Fletcher Memorial Home", "Southampton Dock" Most, if not all, of the Chumbawumba catalog Anyone here read David Halberstam's _The Children_? One of the best books I've read in ages. - -Doc np Midnight Oil, "Red Sails In The Sunset". (I'm on a Midnight Oil kick today...) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 07:49:12 -0700 (PDT) From: fred is ted Subject: Re: Hep me, hep me brainstorm - --- D B woofed: > > > > Hippie bullshit? Give me a break. It's called > poetry, metaphor, and it's > what lends the song its universal quality, not to > mention its power of > expression. Look at the questions Dylan raises and > the 'answer' might strike > you a little more clearly. Case in point: "How many > times can a man turn his > head, pretending he just doesn't see...?" Hey, don't drag ME into CapB's nightmare. It was HIS observation, not mine! Hippie bullshit for me is anything by the Dead (just kidding... maybe). Ted "Yeah, we get high on music" Kim Deal _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 09:58:26 -0500 From: "Gene Hopstetter, Jr." Subject: setlist for MABD in Austin? This is what I can recall of Robyn's setlist at the MABD show at Stubb's in Austin. Perhaps someone who was also there can corroborate or correct this: Glass Hotel Viva! Sea-Tac She Doesn't Exist The Cheese Alarm I Am Not Me Airscape Astonomy Domine Remember, Bayard's depending on us! =8-) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 11:04:32 -0400 From: Stephen Buckalew Subject: 0% robyn content/brain function... ooops...ignore that silly last post...didn't get much sleep last night... S.B. **************************************************************************** "...everythings all on...it's rosy...it's a beautiful day!"--Syd Barrett **************************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 11:04:12 -0400 From: lj lindhurst Subject: Re: protest Okay, enough already-- can we all go back to discussing Jewel's poetry? L "THE ELJSTER" J ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ LJ Lindhurst White Rabbit Graphic Design NYC ljl@w-rabbit.com http://www.w-rabbit.com ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ "Hey Mikey, whatever happened to the fucking Duke of Earl?" --Randy Newman ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 11:34:28 -0400 (EDT) From: Christopher Gross Subject: Re: Hep me, hep me brainstorm Protest songs, though not "the best protest songs ever": The Ramones, "Bonzo Goes to Bitburg." Skinny Puppy has a lot of potential protest songs, but most of the lyrics are too obscure to really count. One exception is the anti-vivisection song "Testure." Many if not most 80s hardcore punk songs are protest songs. There are far too many to list; but MDC's "Buy or Die" and BGK's "Stop the Arms Race" are good examples of the genre (as well as of the habit of naming bands with TLAs). Consolidated's "You Suck" is a protest song protesting male reluctance to perform cunnilingus. What about right-wing protest songs? "Okie From Muskogee" has to be some sort of classic along those lines. And back in the late '80s, when I had a roommate who occasionally listened to country radio, there was a song called something like "If the South Had Won, We'd Have It Made," all about how America would be better if the Confederates had won: for example, murderers would be strung up immediately, no trial, no appeals, no nuthin. Charming song. Decreasingly serious, Chris ______________________________________________________________________ Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 11:36:22 -0400 From: lj lindhurst Subject: Baader Meinhof ? Does anyone have any impressions on the Auteurs' (or Luke Haines') side project, Baader Meinhof? I don't believe I've ever heard it mentioned here... your friend, ed ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 11:47:39 -0400 From: Stephen Buckalew Subject: Re: Hep me, hep me brainstorm Christofer Gross wrote: >What about right-wing protest songs? "Okie From Muskogee" has to be some >sort of classic along those lines. And back in the late '80s, when I had >a roommate who occasionally listened to country radio, there was a song >called something like "If the South Had Won, We'd Have It Made," all about >how America would be better if the Confederates had won: for example, >murderers would be strung up immediately, no trial, no appeals, no nuthin. >Charming song. There's always the verbal sparring between Neil Young's "Southern Man" and Skynards: "Sweet Home Alabama" Phil Ochs wrote some good (non-right wing) protest songs, his "Phil Ochs in Concert" album has most of 'em. How about Crass or Billy Bragg? S.B. **************************************************************************** "...everythings all on...it's rosy...it's a beautiful day!"--Syd Barrett **************************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 10:52:15 -0500 From: "JH3" Subject: Re: Baader Meinhof ? >Does anyone have any impressions on the Auteurs' (or Luke Haines') >side project, Baader Meinhof? I don't believe I've ever heard it >mentioned here... Probably because it's (1) nearly impossible to find, (2) doesn't sound at all like Robyn, (3) there's little indication that it's Auteurs-related, and (4) being Auteurs-related is hardly a way to get attention in the first place! I will say that it's a good record - kind of a concept album about the whole Baader Meinhof story - and much more electronic & synthey (with far less percussion) than the first three Auteurs albums... It's also a lot better than the new Auteurs album, "How I Learned to Love the Bootboys" which (IMO, after two listens) is a terrible disappointment - fewer good song ideas than usual, but even those are pretty much ruined by the execrable production (cheesy drum machines, cheesy direct-in guitar sound, and... practically no reverb whatsoever!) >your friend, >ed Ed?!?! What have you done with LJ? JH3 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 12:03:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Christopher Gross Subject: Re: Hep me, hep me brainstorm On Thu, 12 Aug 1999, Stephen Buckalew wrote: > How about Crass or Billy Bragg? Crass's "Yes Sir, I Will" could count both for the protest-song thread and the extremely-long-tracks thread. (Can a recording count as a single track if it's spread over two sides of a vinyl record?) - --Criss ______________________________________________________________________ Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 12:16:43 -0400 From: lj lindhurst Subject: Re: Baader Meinhof ? >>Does anyone have any impressions on the Auteurs' (or Luke Haines') >>side project, Baader Meinhof? I don't believe I've ever heard it >>mentioned here... > >Probably because it's (1) nearly impossible to find, (2) doesn't sound >at all like Robyn, (3) there's little indication that it's Auteurs-related, >and (4) being Auteurs-related is hardly a way to get attention in the >first place! (1) not true, I just ordered it from Amazon.com! (2) since when does that matter? (3) I thought Luke Haines wrote the songs???? (4) Your mama! I'll give you a review when I finally get it. I am happy to report that I also just got the new Superchunk album, which will surely be cause for some sort of petulant remark by Eb (bring it on, bruthah). Ah, there's nothing better than a new Superchunk album to ride out those long last days of summer... hey, we finally saw "Eyes Wide Shut" last night. My question is, how were those people having oral sex through those MASKS??? I'm postin all over the place here! wooh! lj * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * LJ Lindhurst White Rabbit Graphic Design http://www.w-rabbit.com NYC ljl@w-rabbit.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 12:18:16 -0400 From: "Chaney, Dolph L" Subject: RE: Baader Meinhof ? WRAS-FM played the crap out of Baader Meinhof's CD when it was first out, and I remember being mightily impressed, but I never did buy it. Dolph np: Can, DELAY 1968 (finally, my first exposure to Can!) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 11:25:54 -0600 From: ultraconformist@mail.weboffices.com Subject: Re: belated JfS debate >I did. Care to clarify, Susan? And I would definitely say that Perspex >Island is Robyn's worst produced record, after Groovy Decay. Um, well, no, actually, I don't but it looks like I have to. I wasn't talking about anything as -specific- as "post 80s reverb". It was a little more general than that. The production on it is super-annoying, but it's not the reverb, it's that it's just too slick and over-glossy overall. I also feel that as a collection of songs, it really doesn't hold together- the ratio of weak material to strong tips too hard to the weak side, making it feel kind of lopsided as a collection of songs. Like too-sweet jello pudding that didn't get mixed together right. Jeez, I never thought that little offhand comment would get so much attention or I would have just said "I think the production is overly slick and some of the songs are woefully insubstantial". Love on ya, Susan n.p. Townes Van Zandt- "High, Low, and In Between"- a very different sort of listening jag from the one Ed's on ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 13:37:15 -0400 (EDT) From: Bayard Subject: Re: My other Cars a GBV. On Wed, 11 Aug 1999, Capuchin wrote: > > On Wed, 11 Aug 1999, Thomas Rodebaugh wrote: > > np: gbv "do the collapse" (is it just me, or is the sentence "guided by > > voices album produced by ric ocasek" one of those things you never thought > > you'd hear?) > > Naw, I've heard plenty of sentences without verbs before. that isn't one of them, though. not to revive the whole religion thing, but I hear Kansas has outlawed the teaching of evolution in school. Hmmmmm... "The 6th Sense" is a pretty nifty flick. the "twist" at the end uses a boatload of artistic license and disbelief suspension, but is really interesting. that's all i'll say. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 10:52:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Glen Uber Subject: Protest Songs More protest songs for the Ebster: "My Uncle", "Sin City", and "Hippie Boy" by the Flying Burrito Brothers "Trouble Every Day" The Mothers of Invention "On The Turning Away" (?) Pink Floyd "Dancing In The Streets" (I always took it as a call to revolution) Martha and the Vandellas (later by Van Halen and the Grateful Dead) "Life At A Top People's Health Club Farm" The Style Council "Sowing The Seeds of Love" Tears For Fears "A Simple Desultory Philippic (Or How I Was Robert McNamara'd Into Submission", "Richard Corey", "Silent Night/7 O'Clock News" Simon And Garfunkel "Talkin' 'Bout A Revolution" Tracy Chapman "Give Ireland Back To The Irish" Paul McCartney "I Wish" and "Black Man" Stevie Wonder "Bangladesh" George Harrison, et al "99 Luftballons" Nena Cheers! - -Glen- "Half the world's starving and half the world bloats; half the world sits on the other and gloats..." --Robyn Hitchcock Glen Uber | uberg@sonic.net | http://www.sonic.net/~uberg ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 11:30:51 PDT From: "Ariel Green" Subject: Re: Hep me, hep me brainstorm I'm a little surprised that no one has mentioned "Last Train to Clarksville", by The Monkees... Isn't it a sortof anti-war song about a guy going off to war? That or the trivia man on the radio is horribly horribly wrong. *g* Also, the Cranberries seem to have a lot of protest songs.. "Zombie" comes to mind, and there's another one about Sarajevo... Can't remember the title though--must go through my CDs when I get home.. I'm glad Susan remembered "Cap in Hand". :) It's one of my faves.. later.. Ariel _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 11:43:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Vivien Lyon Subject: Millepedant I just saw a spectacle that I would call Hitchcockian, were it not for the fact that he loathes being pigeon-holed as some sort of insect-obsessed pervert. I was sitting in the little quad my building borders on, and leaning up against a statue (Aesculapius, in case you were curious) reading my book (The Dispossessed, in case you were curious). It was misting slightly, and I became contemplative, gazing into the silver sky wistfully, wondering if I should renounce all my worldly posessions and so forth, when I gradually became aware that something was off. There were... presences around me. I looked closely at the stairs in front of which I was sitting, and lo! They were covered in tiny millipedes! I have no idea how I missed noticing them for a good twenty minutes. After assuring myself that I wasn't covered with the beasts, I examined them more closely. Nothing special, just little blackish-brown fifteen segmented millipedes...except (I muttered to myself) 'What are they doing?! These two right here..they seem to be engaged in... By Gum! They're making out!' The whole lot of them were variously engaged in the most intimate of all acts: getting it on. And it isn't even spring! The lascivious arthropods! After examining them for a while (and amusing myself by lecturing them on public modesty and the importance of a loving relationship), I left them to populate their little corner of the earth as they see fit. Vivien "Insect Love" The Vivster _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 12:00:12 -0700 From: Michael Brage Subject: Julian Lennon Tour Fegs, If anyone has taped any of the recent Lennon tour, I would appreciate if I could trade or arrange for copies. Contact me off list. Thanks. Sorry about no RH content. Michael ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 13:15:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: My other Cars a GBV. On Thu, 12 Aug 1999, Bayard wrote: > On Wed, 11 Aug 1999, Capuchin wrote: > > On Wed, 11 Aug 1999, Thomas Rodebaugh wrote: > > > np: gbv "do the collapse" (is it just me, or is the sentence "guided by > > > voices album produced by ric ocasek" one of those things you never thought > > > you'd hear?) > > Naw, I've heard plenty of sentences without verbs before. > that isn't one of them, though. Guided By Voices album produced by Ric Ocasek There is no verb there. We know "produced" can be a verb when it is preceded by a subject and followed by an object, but "produced by" is not a verb phrase and the above is a fragment. The whole deal would be different if the band hadn't been so arrogant and insisted on being first. I mean, it could have read "Rick Ocasek produced this Guided By Voices album." Granted it is two characters longer. > not to revive the whole religion thing, but I hear Kansas has outlawed the > teaching of evolution in school. Hmmmmm... No no no. That's not how I understand it. Kansas has allowed the teaching of Creation in schools. Not the same thing. Outlawing the teaching of evolution probably can't effectively happen since the Scopes trial. By the way, evolution got only the most cursory coverage in first year biology at my high school. Totally fundamentalist instructor. However, he was not allowed to discuss Creation. > "The 6th Sense" is a pretty nifty flick. the "twist" at the end uses a > boatload of artistic license and disbelief suspension, but is really > interesting. that's all i'll say. Talk to me about this offlist. I don't think any disbelief suspension is all that necessary when it comes down to the ending (that is to say, not any more than to accept the premise of the film in general... which I'd say is quite a bit). I mean to say that the ending was clever and consistent, just very poorly executed in my opinion. But let's not talk about that here. It's good enough to keep potential viewers from getting even the slightest clue. J. - -- ________________________________________________________ J A Brelin Capuchin ________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 13:18:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: Baader Meinhof ? On Thu, 12 Aug 1999, lj lindhurst wrote: > hey, we finally saw "Eyes Wide Shut" last night. My question is, how > were those people having oral sex through those MASKS??? LJ, this proves some of my suspicions once and for all. I think we're alot alike in this way. But yes! I was thinking the same thing. I saw ONE person with a mask that had a big gaping hole in the front of it for a mouth and a couple of masks that kind of allowed the mouth go slide under, but why on Earth would anyone attend a party like that with a full face mask? That was just crazy to me. J. - -- ________________________________________________________ J A Brelin Capuchin ________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 16:27:47 -0400 (EDT) From: dmw Subject: Re: protest On Thu, 12 Aug 1999, lj lindhurst wrote: > Okay, enough already-- can we all go back to discussing Jewel's poetry? > > L "THE ELJSTER" J ok, but not before i mention the dk's _nazi punks fuck off_ and chumbawamba's _english rebel songs_ (an acapella disc of several centuries worth, including original diggers anthems and the like) so. jewel's poetry! i think it's deep how she talks about angels and stuff. angels are the coolest. aren't angels just the coolest? i wish i could see an angel. maybe jewel would write a pome about me, then. that'd be... i dunno... cooler than the coolest, i guess! - -- d. 233 NORTHwest >>not<< southwest, jeez, whaddanidiot... - - "seventeen!" cried the humbug, always first with the wrong answer. - - oh no!! you've just read mail from doug = dmw@radix.net dmw@mwmw.com - - get yr pathos:www.pathetic-caverns.com -- books, flicks, tunes, etc. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 13:43:34 -0700 From: Mark_Gloster@3com.com Subject: Re: Baader Meinhof ? Capuchin monkeyed with the following: >On Thu, 12 Aug 1999, lj lindhurst wrote: >> hey, we finally saw "Eyes Wide Shut" last night. My question is, how >> were those people having oral sex through those MASKS??? >LJ, this proves some of my suspicions once and for all. I think we're >alot alike in this way. Be afraid, LJ. >But yes! I was thinking the same thing. I saw ONE person with a mask >that had a big gaping hole in the front of it for a mouth and a couple of >masks that kind of allowed the mouth go slide under, but why on Earth >would anyone attend a party like that with a full face mask? That was >just crazy to me. Some people simply cannot attend an orgy without a full face mask. Some others need entire body bags. Happies, - -Markg ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V8 #303 *******************************