From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V8 #283 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Sunday, August 1 1999 Volume 08 : Number 283 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Rew covers [Eb ] Re: The Smiths and selling cars [Jeff Dwarf ] Re: The Smiths and selling cars and killing warlocks [Jeff Dwarf ] Re: selling cars locks [Jeff Dwarf ] Re: JT, Sting, and polishing up the Jewels ["D B" ] Re: JT, Sting, and polishing up the Jewels [Capuchin ] Re: Album count ["Russ Reynolds" ] Re: JT, Sting, and polishing up the Jewels [Joel Mullins ] Re: Album count [Capuchin ] Re: Album count [David Librik ] Videodrome [Joel Mullins ] Re: [susan331@earthlink.net: Robyn story #2] ["Capitalism Blows" ] Re: Videodrome [dmw ] Dancing at Lughnasa (brought to you by the Booze Council) [Natalie Jacobs] Re: Videodrome [Capuchin ] Re: Attention Texas Fegs [PollHG@aol.com] Re: [susan331@earthlink.net: Robyn story #2] [Joel Mullins ] Re: Videodrome [Miles Goosens ] Re: [susan331@earthlink.net: Robyn story #2] ["Capitalism Blows" Subject: Re: Rew covers >I was just surfing through the All Music Guide and I noticed that besides >"Walking On Sunshine" and "Going Down To Liverpool" two other K. Rew tunes >have been recorded by other artists. Anyone heard of/know anything about >Tim Lee? Sez he's worked with Mitch Easter and Will Rigby (of the dB's) but >not much else to go on. He recorded a version of "Don't Take Her Out Of My >World" (one of the songs Kimberley sang lead on on the first K&TW album). I believe that Tim Lee was in the Windbreakers, in days gone by. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 18:46:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: The Smiths and selling cars Carole Reichstein wrote: > I was both appalled and amused to hear the opening riff of > "How Soon is Now" in a Nissan car commercial. How can a song > from my angst-ridden teenage years be used to sell cars > nowadays? Are Moz fans suddenly part of the consumerist > demographic? Or does some Smiths fan work at an ad > agency? Probably the latter, I'm guessing. plus, m&m need the cash with mike joyce having won a larger share of back royalties in court. also that particular riff does have a certain automotive feel to it. it sure as hell makes "paint a vulgar picture" more ironic. ultimately, it's just a less obscure extention of VW using Lush or Velocity Girl or Throwing Muses or The Orb loops in recent years, except The Smiths (and Iggy and the others nissan have used) are far better known. I still like (and hate) the toyota commercial with Buzzcocks "What do I get?" better (or worse). > Who gets more royalties from this: Morrissey or Johnny Marr? > And I wonder how much? probably the same. i suppose it's possible (given that it's listed if i remember words: Moz/Music: Marr iirc) Johnny gets it all, but i doubt it. > Humming morose Smiths songs--and cheerfully! np: tom waits: beautiful maladies. cuz it's time to give in, and it'd give a pretty good overview. _____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 18:52:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: The Smiths and selling cars and killing warlocks Joel Mullins wrote: > Well, I've wondered about this myself. I don't know if I've > seen the commercial you're referring to, but are you sure it's > the Smiths version and not a cover? it's definitely the smiths version. > Has anyone seen that WB show Charmed? The theme song > is a lame cover of How Soon Is Now (well, it's definitely a > cover of a Smiths song and I think it's How Soon is Now but I'm > not positive because I haven't listened to the Smiths very much > in years... is it the love spit love (worst band name ever nominee) version that richard butler and his little friends recorded for some simularly minded film a couple years back? _____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 19:02:35 -0700 From: "Chris!" Subject: Re: selling cars locks Jeff Dwarf wrote: > > Joel Mullins wrote: > > Well, I've wondered about this myself. I don't know if I've > > seen the commercial you're referring to, but are you sure it's > > the Smiths version and not a cover? > > it's definitely the smiths version. > Not always. Often times a company will buy the use rights to a song and have a studio band cover it to the letter. It sounds just like it but it is not. In most cases you can sit down with it and figure out what is different about it. Usually some production difference. The most memorable to me was a Kinks tune that was done to the letter for most ears. It advertised some cold remedy... .chris (oddly enough, I'm sick) Not worth a whole lot of comment, but Robyn appeared on KUSF on Thursday, I think. It was the last half I caught. Played a couple of tunes that sounded nice. (His tone, on the guitar, has changed; or so it sounds. But, I did not go to any shows.) The usual semi-coherent banter was there, mainly about stuff in the studio and it relation to the outside world. Nonsensical comments about "capitalism," ect. The interviewer, Kathy, did a fine job. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 19:26:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: selling cars locks Chris! wrote: > Jeff Dwarf wrote: >> Joel Mullins wrote: >>> Well, I've wondered about this myself. I don't know if I've >>> seen the commercial you're referring to, but are you sure >>> it's the Smiths version and not a cover? >> it's definitely the smiths version. > Not always. Often times a company will buy the use rights to a > song and have a studio band cover it to the letter. It sounds > just like it but it is not. but in this case it's definitely the smiths version. but yes, that happens all the time. i'm not sure which annoys me more. i'd recognize johnny marr ripping that intro up anywhere. _____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 19:42:35 PDT From: "D B" Subject: Re: JT, Sting, and polishing up the Jewels >and i do kinda like "fire & rain," though beyond that i couldn't >be bothered one way or the other by james taylor. at least he's >pleasantly dull, unlike, say jewel who's aggressively dull. Mexico Sweet Baby James You've Got a Friend Something in the Way She Moves Shower the People Carolina In My Mind Don't Let Me be Lonely Tonight Walking Man Country Road How Sweet It Is ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 20:49:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: JT, Sting, and polishing up the Jewels On Sat, 31 Jul 1999, D B wrote: > >and i do kinda like "fire & rain," though beyond that i couldn't > >be bothered one way or the other by james taylor. at least he's > >pleasantly dull, unlike, say jewel who's aggressively dull. > Mexico > Sweet Baby James > You've Got a Friend > Something in the Way She Moves > Shower the People > Carolina In My Mind > Don't Let Me be Lonely Tonight > Walking Man > Country Road > How Sweet It Is Like the man said, beyond "Fire & Rain"... - -- ________________________________________________________ J A Brelin Capuchin ________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 23:15:14 -0600 From: ultraconformist@mail.weboffices.com Subject: Re: JT, Sting, and polishing up the Jewels >> How Sweet It Is > >Like the man said, beyond "Fire & Rain"... "How Sweet It Is" is a cover of something done much sweeter by Marvin Gaye. Taylor's more listenable tunes are usually Pat Boone-y versions of soul and r&b tunes. Some spirit of solid songcraft seems to get through no matter how much spice he tries to blanch out. I was just at the 7 o'clock showing of 'Storefront' at Facets. I don't recall having seen anyone in pants with an orange stripe. Indeed, I saw hardly anyone at all. Fortunately it looked as if the crowd was shaping up to be a bit larger for the 9 o'clock. Love on ya, Susan 'Momus? That guy is sinister!' Marilyn Manson, as reported by Haig Bedrossian ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 21:24:05 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: JT, Sting, and polishing up the Jewels Hey, just remember: James Taylor was one of the first artists signed to Apple Records. So I'll award him a modicum of hipness for that. And besides, he even had drug problems. Woo! Tres cool. ;) KEN "You've Got a Friend" THE KENSTER ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 21:22:39 -0700 From: "Russ Reynolds" Subject: Re: Album count >> A CAN OF BEES >> UNDERWATER MOONLIGHT >> INVISIBLE HITS [i don't consider this a "greatest hits" compilation] >> BLACK SNAKE DIAMOND ROLE >> GROOVY DECOY >> I OFTEN DREAM OF TRAINS >> FEGMANIA! >> INVISIBLE HITCHCOCK >> ELEMENT OF LIGHT >> GLOBE OF FROGS >> QUEEN ELVIS >> EYE >> PERSPEX ISLAND >> RESPECT >> YOU AND OBLIVION >> MOSS ELIXIR >> STOREFRONT HITCHCOCK [cd] >> JEWELS FOR SOPHIA > >And that makes eighteen. well ya gotta count 2 halves 'cause it was a legit LP release, the last before the group disbanded. Nineteen. - -rUss ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 23:21:24 -0700 From: Joel Mullins Subject: Re: JT, Sting, and polishing up the Jewels Eb wrote: > > Hey, just remember: James Taylor was one of the first artists signed to > Apple Records. So I'll award him a modicum of hipness for that. And > besides, he even had drug problems. Woo! Tres cool. ;) Then VH1 better get started on that Behind the Music. Joel ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 23:28:44 -0700 From: Joel Mullins Subject: Re: Album count Russ Reynolds wrote: > > >> A CAN OF BEES > >> UNDERWATER MOONLIGHT > >> INVISIBLE HITS [i don't consider this a "greatest hits" compilation] > >> BLACK SNAKE DIAMOND ROLE > >> GROOVY DECOY > >> I OFTEN DREAM OF TRAINS > >> FEGMANIA! > >> INVISIBLE HITCHCOCK > >> ELEMENT OF LIGHT > >> GLOBE OF FROGS > >> QUEEN ELVIS > >> EYE > >> PERSPEX ISLAND > >> RESPECT > >> YOU AND OBLIVION > >> MOSS ELIXIR > >> STOREFRONT HITCHCOCK [cd] > >> JEWELS FOR SOPHIA > > > >And that makes eighteen. > > well ya gotta count 2 halves 'cause it was a legit LP release, the last > before the group disbanded. Nineteen. And if you're gonna count Storefront, then you have to count the other live albums as well. So with Hen and Cambridge, that makes 21. Was Live at the Portland Arms a legitimate release? Joel ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 21:45:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: Album count On Sat, 31 Jul 1999, Joel Mullins wrote: > Russ Reynolds wrote: > > >> A CAN OF BEES > > >> UNDERWATER MOONLIGHT > > >> INVISIBLE HITS [i don't consider this a "greatest hits" compilation] > > >> BLACK SNAKE DIAMOND ROLE > > >> GROOVY DECOY > > >> I OFTEN DREAM OF TRAINS > > >> FEGMANIA! > > >> INVISIBLE HITCHCOCK > > >> ELEMENT OF LIGHT > > >> GLOBE OF FROGS > > >> QUEEN ELVIS > > >> EYE > > >> PERSPEX ISLAND > > >> RESPECT > > >> YOU AND OBLIVION > > >> MOSS ELIXIR > > >> STOREFRONT HITCHCOCK [cd] > > >> JEWELS FOR SOPHIA > > >And that makes eighteen. > > well ya gotta count 2 halves 'cause it was a legit LP release, the last > > before the group disbanded. Nineteen. Well, first I was going to say that you MIGHT count 2 Halves, but you MIGHT NOT count Storefront because it's a soundtrack. > And if you're gonna count Storefront, then you have to count the other > live albums as well. So with Hen and Cambridge, that makes 21. Was > Live at the Portland Arms a legitimate release? Storefront may not be counted, but I'd say more because it's a soundtrack than because it's a live album. It contains tons of previously unreleased material and Robyn said that he wasn't going to put things on the Storefront album that would be on a later release. He's since gone back on that with No, I Don't Remember Guildford, but I trust that was just a singular revision and he intends to keep Storefront as the definitive version of some of those songs (particularly 1974 and Let's Go Thundering). There are lots of ways to look at it. I'm just saying that 18 is a legit number unless you want to go ahead and throw in EVERYTHING. J. - -- ________________________________________________________ J A Brelin Capuchin ________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 01:38:16 -0500 From: David Librik Subject: Re: Album count >And if you're gonna count Storefront, then you have to count the other >live albums as well. So with Hen and Cambridge, that makes 21. Was >Live at the Portland Arms a legitimate release? Sure. It came out on Glass Fish in 1987; like Invisible Hits, it was one of those "finally saw official vinyl after years of being bootlegged" LPs. For some annoying reason it never made it fully to CD release, which is too bad, because the Portland Arms show reveals the little-known Moxy Fruvous side of the Soft Boys. Two Halves isn't a real album, it's two EPs collected on one LP. - - David Librik ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 01 Aug 1999 01:43:40 -0700 From: Joel Mullins Subject: Videodrome I just got finished watching Cronenberg's Videodrome. I enjoyed it a lot, but this is the first time I've ever seen it, so I'm not sure I got everything. There seems to be quite a lot more in this movie than at first meets the eye. I'm sure he's probably making some comments on technology and television and all that, but I haven't really worked all this out in my mind yet. Anyway, I was just curious if any of you guys have seen this and have ideas about. I'd love to hear them if you do. Joel ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 01 Aug 1999 02:01:22 PDT From: "Capitalism Blows" Subject: Re: [susan331@earthlink.net: Robyn story #2] < > TWO HALVES FOR THE PRICE OF ONE > LIVE AT THE PORTLAND ARMS > GIVE IT TO THE THOTH BOYS > WHERE ARE THE PRAWNS? What exactly are these? I've heard them mentioned before, but I don't know much about them. Am I correct in assuming that none of these exist on CD?> TWO HALVES is, as the title suggests, two halves of a soft boys album. one half studio, and one half live. PORTLAND ARMS caught the soft boys in folk mode. THOTH BOYS and PRAWNS? were live egyptian oddities, and a show from the '94 reunion tour, respectively, released by robyn hisself, through mrs. wafflehead. THOTH BOYS is featured in the museum's gift shoppe, and on its disco., while PRAWNS? is not. i personally consider WHERE ARE THE PRAWNS? to be the greatest soft boys album of all times. INVISIBLE HITS is (or was recently) currently being offered on ebay. in the description, it notes that the album comes with the original advert for PORTLAND ARMS (you had to mail in a little card to get the cassette), then says that the offer may not still be valid. i got a kick out of that. here, let's see if it's still there... SOFT BOYS "Invisible Hits" LP. This is the original UK import on Midnight Music Records # Chime 00.02. Both the LP and Jcket are in near mint condition. The LP has 11 tracks. Comes with original flyer for limited edition Soft Boys Record. (I don't think the offer still stands) Buyer agrees to pay $3.50 for USPS-Priorty S/H. Insurance and International shipments cost more. Email me with questions. NO RESERVE PRICE. Good Luck with the bidding. i once mentioned to mrs. wafflehead that i'd like to see these items on cd. she said that robyn doesn't want to release TWO HALVES or PORTLAND ARMS onto cd, as they're not of the highest sound quality, in his opinion. she did say that there had been talking of pressing PRAWNS? up onto cd. some of this material would certainly be nice to have in a boxed set. now, about the counting. if you're not going to count live albums, then you can't count compilations. in other words, if you're only counting studio albums that were designed *specifically* as albums, it would go: A CAN OF BEES UNDERWATER MOONLIGHT BLACK SNAKE DIAMOND ROLE GROOVY DECAY [*not* DECOY] I OFTEN DREAM OF TRAINS FEGMANIA! ELEMENT OF LIGHT GLOBE OF FROGS QUEEN ELVIS EYE PERSPEX ISLAND RESPECT MOSS ELIXIR JEWELS FOR SOPHIA ...so either JEWELS is 14 or it's 28. _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 01 Aug 1999 02:04:12 PDT From: "Capitalism Blows" Subject: Re: SF in-store two problems. first, i don't want to miss *any* of the tour, and the wto shindig is at the very end of november. also, i would presume that he'd like to have the tour wrapped up before christmas, so that he could spend the holy days with his family. *there's* your mama! if we could just get eb to join us, we might even be able to pull a corporate sponsorship. Joel _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 09:29:06 -0400 (EDT) From: dmw Subject: Re: Videodrome On Sun, 1 Aug 1999, Joel Mullins wrote: > I just got finished watching Cronenberg's Videodrome. I enjoyed it a [...] > this out in my mind yet. Anyway, I was just curious if any of you guys > have seen this and have ideas about. I'd love to hear them if you do. debbie harry = hot; weird tv = bad - - "seventeen!" cried the humbug, always first with the wrong answer. - - oh no!! you've just read mail from doug = dmw@radix.net dmw@mwmw.com - - get yr pathos:www.pathetic-caverns.com -- books, flicks, tunes, etc. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 13:36:26 -0400 (EDT) From: Natalie Jacobs Subject: Dancing at Lughnasa (brought to you by the Booze Council) Thanks to you guys, my Lughnasa show went really well. I played a lot of your suggestions (all of them I could find) and came up with a few ideas of my own, like a song off that Kristin Hersh mail-order CD called something like "Three Nights Drunk" which was really cool. I ran out of ideas after a while until the DJ after me arrived with a "Scottish Whisky Celebration" and a Polish accordion song called "Drunk Man's Will." He now wants to do an entire show based around booze. thanks again, n. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 11:26:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: Videodrome On Sun, 1 Aug 1999, dmw wrote: > On Sun, 1 Aug 1999, Joel Mullins wrote: > > I just got finished watching Cronenberg's Videodrome. I enjoyed it a > [...] > > this out in my mind yet. Anyway, I was just curious if any of you guys > > have seen this and have ideas about. I'd love to hear them if you do. > debbie harry = hot; weird > tv = bad Exactly. And here's exactly why I can't get too excited about Cronenberg. I think he's really superficial and likes to show you lots of pretty/dirty/nasty things and be found arty because he is both unpleasant and incoherent. Bleh. He makes people who think they SHOULD be getting more out of his work think it's deeper than they understand and people who don't have to try to look for meaning quite easily see there isn't more than what's on the surface. J. - -- ________________________________________________________ J A Brelin Capuchin ________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 15:09:41 EDT From: PollHG@aol.com Subject: Re: Attention Texas Fegs >>Sounds good to me. Who all's going? Polly? Zelda? Joel<< I cannot believe this but, circumstances beyond my control make it impossible to go the show in Austin. I have to be out of my place and that is the only weekend I have time to move. So I hope everyone has a great time at the show. I will be busy moving and feeling sorry for myself that I am unable to attend. I'm in a state of disbelief at my bad luck. Take Care, Polly ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 01 Aug 1999 14:17:04 -0700 From: Joel Mullins Subject: Re: [susan331@earthlink.net: Robyn story #2] Capitalism Blows wrote: > now, about the counting. if you're not going to count live albums, then you > can't count compilations. in other words, if you're only counting studio > albums that were designed *specifically* as albums, it would go: > > A CAN OF BEES > UNDERWATER MOONLIGHT > BLACK SNAKE DIAMOND ROLE > GROOVY DECAY [*not* DECOY] > I OFTEN DREAM OF TRAINS > FEGMANIA! > ELEMENT OF LIGHT > GLOBE OF FROGS > QUEEN ELVIS > EYE > PERSPEX ISLAND > RESPECT > MOSS ELIXIR > JEWELS FOR SOPHIA > > ...so either JEWELS is 14 or it's 28. Well, personally, I think most people would count albums that contain all previously unreleased material. So, I would add: > INVISIBLE HITS > INVISIBLE HITCHCOCK > YOU AND OBLIVION And I also think live albums should count. > GOTTA LET THIS HEN OUT > LIVE AT THE CAMBRIDGE FOLK FESTIVAL That would make Jewels #19, or #20 if you count Decoy. I guess if I was writing an article, I would say one of two things: 1) Jewels for Sophia, RH's 14th studio album.... 2) Jewels for Sophia, RH's 20th album.... Anyway, this brings up another question to my mind. Where exactly does Decoy fit in chronologically. My copy of Decay is on Albion and has two copyright dates: 1982 and 1985. So, I placed it after Black Snake. But when was Decoy first released. I have the 1986 Midnight Music release of Decoy. Was the very first release. I've never known for sure, so right now, I have Decoy placed right after Decay and before IODOT and Fegmania. If Decoy was first released in 1986, then where in the group of '86 releases would it go? Here's the order I have right now for the '86 releases: > GOTTA LET THIS HEN OUT > ELEMENT OF LIGHT > INVISIBLE HITCHCOCK Is this correct? And should Groovy Decoy be in there somewhere? Joel ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 15:47:33 -0400 From: "jbranscombe@compuserve.com" Subject: simeon Mr Silver Apples is called Simeon. Whether he now calls himself Simon and is active seems deeply unlikely to me. jmbc ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 01 Aug 1999 15:22:50 -0500 From: Miles Goosens Subject: Re: Videodrome At 11:26 AM 8/1/99 -0700, Capuchin wrote: >Exactly. And here's exactly why I can't get too excited about Cronenberg. >I think he's really superficial and likes to show you lots of >pretty/dirty/nasty things and be found arty because he is both unpleasant >and incoherent. > >Bleh. He makes people who think they SHOULD be getting more out of his >work think it's deeper than they understand and people who don't have to >try to look for meaning quite easily see there isn't more than what's on >the surface. OR he could be giving viewers only enough to get them thinking, thus requiring them to do some of the heavy lifting themselves -- interpolating some of the meaning of his films rather than having everything spoonfed. VIDEODROME is highly unpleasant, yes, but far from incoherent. While CRASH is as disastrous a movie as one is likely to ever see, VIDEODROME is IMO a masterful film, one of the best of the '80s. later, Miles, who still wonders if James Woods' stomach accepts VHS as well as Beta ====================================================== Miles Goosens limited edition R. Stevie Moore CDs now available! http://www.rsteviemoore.com My personal website http://www.mindspring.com/~outdoorminer/miles "If a million people say a stupid thing, it is still a stupid thing." -- Anatole France ====================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 01 Aug 1999 14:25:57 PDT From: "Capitalism Blows" Subject: Re: [susan331@earthlink.net: Robyn story #2] INVISIBLE HITS > INVISIBLE HITCHCOCK > YOU AND OBLIVION> but they're not studio albums. if you're going to count them, then you have to count everything. GOTTA LET THIS HEN OUT > LIVE AT THE CAMBRIDGE FOLK FESTIVAL> why not PORTLAND ARMS, TWO HALVES, PRAWNS?, or STOREFRONT? an "asking tree" search for vinyl albums, sorted chronologically, turns up: 1979  A Can of Bees  Authorized  Vinyl LP  Two Crabs Music CLAW 1001  1980  Underwater Moonlight  Authorized  Vinyl LP  Armageddon Records ARM 1  1980  Underwater Moonlight  Authorized  Vinyl LP  Attic Records LAT 1103  1980  A Can of Bees  Authorized  Vinyl LP  Aura Records AUL 709  1980  Underwater Moonlight  Authorized  Vinyl LP  Roof Records 133 026  1981  Black Snake Diamond Role  Authorized  Vinyl LP  Armageddon Records ARM 4  1982  Groovy Decay  Authorized  Vinyl LP  Albion Records ALB 110  1983  Invisible Hits  Authorized  Vinyl LP  Midnight Music CHIME 00.02  1984  Don't Let The Hope Close Down  Compilation  Vinyl LP  Hope Springs Records HOPE 1  1984  A Can of Bees  Authorized  Vinyl LP  Two Crabs Music CLAW 1001  1984  I Often Dream Of Trains  Authorized  Vinyl LP  Midnight Music CHIME 00.05 S  1985  fegMANIA!  Authorized  Vinyl LP  Midnight Music CHIME 00.08 D  1985  A Soft Boy No More  Unauthorized  Vinyl LP  Blue Lake Records RH85-1  1985  Gotta Let This Hen Out!  Authorized  Vinyl LP  Midnight Music CHIME 00.15 S  1985  Gotta Let This Hen Out!  Authorized  Vinyl LP  Relativity Records EMC 8056  1985  Groovy Decoy  Authorized  Vinyl LP  Midnight Music CHIME 00.19  1985  Black Snake Diamond Role  Authorized  Vinyl LP  Aftermath Records AFT 1  1985  fegMANIA!  Authorized  Vinyl LP  plane 88425  1985  fegMANIA!  Authorized  Vinyl LP  Slash Records 1-25316  1985  Groovy Decay  Authorized  Vinyl LP  Albion Records ALLP 4.00008  1986  Underwater Moonlight  Authorized  Vinyl LP  Living Cream Records MOIST 1  1986  I Often Dream Of Trains  Authorized  Vinyl LP  Relativity Records 88561-8082-1  1986  Groovy Decoy  Authorized  Vinyl LP  Relativity Records 88561-8083-1  1986  Black Snake Diamond Role  Authorized  Vinyl LP  Relativity Records 88561-8088-1  1986  Invisible Hitchcock  Authorized  Vinyl LP  Relativity Records 88561-8089-1  1986  Invisible Hitchcock  Authorized  Vinyl LP  Glass Fish Records MOIST 2  1986  Element Of Light  Authorized  Vinyl LP  Glass Fish Records MOIST 3  1986  The Day They Ate Brick  Unauthorized  Vinyl LP  Polarad POL 121 045  1986  Between Today And Tomorrow  Compilation  Vinyl LP  Midnight Music CHIME 00.17 L  1986  Element Of Light  Authorized  Vinyl LP  Relativity Records 88561-8130-1  1987  Live At The Portland Arms  Authorized  Vinyl LP  Glass Fish Records MOIST 4  1987  Underwater Moonlight  Authorized  Vinyl LP  Base Records GI LP 6  1987  Black Snake Diamond Role  Authorized  Vinyl LP  Base Record GI LP 54  1988  Globe of Frogs  Authorized  Vinyl LP  A&M Records SP-5182  1988  The Hooded One  Unauthorized  Vinyl LP  Feg You Records FEG 3-28-86  1988  Globe of Frogs  Authorized  Vinyl LP  A&M Records AMA 5182  1989  Time Between  Compilation  Vinyl LP  Imaginary Records ILLUSION 004  1989  Deirdre O'Donoghue Interview  Promo  Vinyl LP  A&M Records SP-17765  1989  Queen Elvis  Authorized  Vinyl LP  A&M Records SP 5241  1990  Alvin Lives (in Leeds)  Compilation  Vinyl LP  Midnight Music CLANG 4  1990  Eye  Authorized  Vinyl LP  Twin/Tone Records TTR 89175-1  1990  Eye  Authorized  Vinyl LP  Glass Fish Records MOIST 8  1991  Perspex Island  Authorized  Vinyl LP  A&M Records 75021 5368 1  1992  Time Between  Compilation  Vinyl LP  The Communion Label COMM 11  1996  Mossy Liquor  Authorized  Vinyl LP  Warner Bros. Records 1-46339  1998  Storefront Hitchcock  Authorized  Vinyl LP  Warner Brothers 9 47147-1  which appears to be corroborated by . although i coulda sworn there was a vinyl issue of RESPECT. neither one lists such an animal, though. _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 14:29:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: [susan331@earthlink.net: Robyn story #2] On Sun, 1 Aug 1999, Joel Mullins wrote: > Capitalism Blows wrote: > > now, about the counting. if you're not going to count live albums, then you > > can't count compilations. in other words, if you're only counting studio > > albums that were designed *specifically* as albums, it would go: > > A CAN OF BEES > > UNDERWATER MOONLIGHT > > BLACK SNAKE DIAMOND ROLE > > GROOVY DECAY [*not* DECOY] > > I OFTEN DREAM OF TRAINS > > FEGMANIA! > > ELEMENT OF LIGHT > > GLOBE OF FROGS > > QUEEN ELVIS > > EYE > > PERSPEX ISLAND > > RESPECT > > MOSS ELIXIR > > JEWELS FOR SOPHIA > > ...so either JEWELS is 14 or it's 28. > Well, personally, I think most people would count albums that contain > all previously unreleased material. So, I would add: > > INVISIBLE HITS > > INVISIBLE HITCHCOCK > > YOU AND OBLIVION Actually, many of the songs on the three of those were released in some format before that point. Singles, videos, B-sides and EPs. You'd pretty much have to count Storefront Hitchcock in that crowd. > And I also think live albums should count. > > GOTTA LET THIS HEN OUT > > LIVE AT THE CAMBRIDGE FOLK FESTIVAL > That would make Jewels #19, or #20 if you count Decoy. I guess if I was > writing an article, I would say one of two things: > 1) Jewels for Sophia, RH's 14th studio album.... > 2) Jewels for Sophia, RH's 20th album.... OK, I have a probably better revision. If you're going to include the Cambridge Folk cd, you'd have to include Kershaw as well. I say no. SO here's what we call it: Albums Robyn released, either as a solo act, part of The Soft Boys or Robyn Hitchcock & The Egyptians that went toward contractual obligations with a label. 1 A CAN OF BEES 2 UNDERWATER MOONLIGHT 3 INVISIBLE HITS 4 BLACK SNAKE DIAMOND ROLE 5 GROOVY DECAY 6 I OFTEN DREAM OF TRAINS 7 INVISIBLE HITCHCOCK 8 FEGMANIA! 9 GOTTA LET THIS HEN OUT 10 ELEMENT OF LIGHT 11 GLOBE OF FROGS 12 QUEEN ELVIS 13 EYE 14 PERSPEX ISLAND 15 RESPECT 16 YOU AND OBLIVION 17 MOSS ELIXIR 18 JEWELS FOR SOPHIA Fair enough? Cambridge Folk and Kershaw are BBC releases just for the hell of it. A&M's Greatest Hits (the most ridiculously named album when you realize that the whole record is pretty much B-sides and unreleased material) and Two Halves were former labels puting together collections they had every right to produce from material they paid for. Decoy, Portland Arms and Mossy Liquor were more or less vanity and clean-up releases Robyn swung with his cohorts at some label he was working with. Eye was a one-off when Robyn was trying to figure out what he wanted from his music, but still a legitimate, all new material release. Storefront Hitchcock is released as a film soundtrack and I don't think applies to Robyn's WB relationship at all (except that he doesn't have to put one of those "appears courtesy of" tags in the notes). I'm not saying this IS hist 18th release, but it's a justifiable viewpoint. J. - -- ________________________________________________________ J A Brelin Capuchin ________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V8 #283 *******************************