From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V8 #282 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Saturday, July 31 1999 Volume 08 : Number 282 Today's Subjects: ----------------- JT, Sting, and polishing up the Jewels ["Andrew D. Simchik" ] SF in-store - my late 2 cents [Ethyl Ketone ] Re: The Smiths and selling cars and killing warlocks [Joel Mullins ] Re: [susan331@earthlink.net: Robyn story #2] ["Capitalism Blows" ] Re: rock and/or roll quote needed ["JH3" ] Re: The Smiths and selling cars and killing warlocks [Capuchin ] RE: Austin show [tanter ] Re: The Smiths and selling cars and killing warlocks [Eb ] Re: Austin show [Joel Mullins ] Re: [susan331@earthlink.net: Robyn story #2] [Capuchin ] Re: Austin show [Zelda Pinwheel ] Re: [susan331@earthlink.net: Robyn story #2] [Joel Mullins ] Re: JT, Sting, and polishing up the Jewels [Jeff Dwarf Subject: JT, Sting, and polishing up the Jewels >From: "D B" [James Taylor and Sting] >Both of these artists have their redeeming qualities, so I fail to >appreciate why people are enough intimidated (?) by them that they have to >slag them so mercilessly. Slagging dreadful, nauseating hacks like James Taylor and pitiful has-beens like Sting requires little more than a moment's thought and a sense of fun. Intimidation certainly isn't a prerequisite. Sting at least has a decent back- catalogue, but he's grown increasingly embarrassing. I can't think of a single redeeming quality James Taylor might have, but I'll accept your word that he has one. >Have at Limp Bizkit, if you will, or some other >such tripe: And happily, slagging a pair of lousy old musicians doesn't exclude the possibility of simultaneously slagging a group of godawful young ones like Limp Bizkit. They make Poison look like Yo-yo Ma. Speaking of slagging, as I predicted (but did not expect), JfS is indeed growing on me. I'll make a further prediction: the last song I'll really like will be "Mexican God," which right now seems a yawner of an opener. It will excite me right after "Sweet Mouth" does. If not right before. Second half of JfS still brilliant, "NASA" and "Sea-Tac" much less annoying than they were at first. This up-to-the-minute report brought to you by grants from Kristin Hersh and the Pretenders, whose new albums waited patiently for me to finish JfS. Drew - -- Andrew D. Simchik, wyrd@rochester.rr.com http://home.rochester.rr.com/wyrd/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 08:51:15 -0700 From: "Russ Reynolds" Subject: Re: when robyn REALLY goes solo >>I mean, only 20,000 of us bought >>"ME" (same sales figures for Mark Eitzels last solo record, before he got >>the boot, btw). > >Hey, is that figure confirmed? I thought I heard the figure 32,000 bandied >about at some point. That's like arguing over whether Charlie Hayes is hitting .180 or .190 right now. Ya know, if everyone who bought JfS bought two copies sales would be twice as high. I think I'm gonna go out and buy a whole box of 'em. - -rUss ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 09:43:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Carole Reichstein Subject: The Smiths and selling cars I was both appalled and amused to hear the opening riff of "How Soon is Now" in a Nissan car commercial. How can a song from my angst-ridden teenage years be used to sell cars nowadays? Are Moz fans suddenly part of the consumerist demographic? Or does some Smiths fan work at an ad agency? Probably the latter, I'm guessing. Who gets more royalties from this: Morrissey or Johnny Marr? And I wonder how much? Humming morose Smiths songs--and cheerfully! Carole ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 17:03:35 GMT From: "Shane Apple" Subject: storefront in chicago hi, i'm not sure if anybody really cares or not, but i'm leaving for chicago in about an hour with plans to see 'storefront' at 5:00. my real plan actually consists of getting lost on the way, spending a horrible amount of time finding a place to park, getting my shoes taken from me by force, and then eventually getting to the theater for the 7:00 show. whenever i end up there, i'll be wearing orange pants with a stripe (i found them finally!) so come and talk to me. - --shane apple _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 00:03:49 -0700 From: Ethyl Ketone Subject: SF in-store - my late 2 cents Hey all, Am intermittent due to no known address and major upheaval in my life. The good news is that escrow closed today and I got my money. The bad news is that I am an hour and a half north of San Francisco in a little one horse town in a small cramped bedroom with my stuff in boxes and more in storage and my cat asking me, repeatedly, why... I take back anything I said about Robyns voice after Tuesdays in store showing. Wow. Nice little acoustic set, even if rather lax clothing by Mr. H (Nat, Viv and Susan I know you want those details). He wore what appeared to be an old, non descript, dark gray shortsleeved sweatshirt and navy pants (more like pajama pants) with black kung fu shoes. Very played down Robyn. His hair didn't seem to get in the way much but I did notice lots of blinkercise action. He seemed to be in "lounge at home" attire. He definately said November for the J4S promotional tour. Sounded so good. And got better as he went. In Bass (I believe) he forgot some of the lyrics which may be why he started telling the story of the Headmaster who breathed through his mouth. All the other songs got better and better. He seemed to be coaxing Tim to sing in harmony?? In short, he rocked enough that I am not sorry I did not attend the Fillmore shows although they sounded great. A beautiful symmetry for me was that 2 friends who came to the in store with me were the 2 guys who turned me on to RH back in the mid eighties and we used to go to RH concerts together. So somehow it was right I see Robyn for the last time in SF (for a few years) with the 2 people who gave me my first compilation tapes. Oh, I had him sign the J4S cd since all other RH vinyl/cds are packed already. He asked who to and I said "to Ethyl". He asked the spelling and I said I spelled it with a Y. He commented on how in England it is with an E and I said "Oh, it's a psuedonym." His reply? "Oh, how sinister." Am monitoring e-mail from the road here and there. Just two words: Fegs Rule! Happy Motoring, - - carrie ps: promise no lenghty travellouges but am doing so for friends so if anyone is interested, contact me off line. My intinerary includes a meeting with the Long Beach Police Department Historical Association, shooting outside various Arizona city limits, 4 days in a Benedictine monastery with a rule of silence, a week in Aspen in a studio making books, a stop in Omaha to visit Forest Lawn and the grandparents I never met... pps: Am in agreement that Jewels is a B effort and does not replace ME, Eye, Perspex Island to name a few. But I keep returning to it. Dark Princess, Mexican God, Antwoman and Jewels for Sophia stand out. "Questions are a burden for others. Answers are a prison for oneself." **************************************************************************** M.E.Ketone/C.Galbraith meketone@ix.netcom.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 12:45:06 -0700 From: Joel Mullins Subject: Re: The Smiths and selling cars and killing warlocks Carole Reichstein wrote: > > I was both appalled and amused to hear the opening riff of "How Soon is > Now" in a Nissan car commercial. How can a song from my angst-ridden > teenage years be used to sell cars nowadays? Are Moz fans suddenly part > of the consumerist demographic? Or does some Smiths fan work at an ad > agency? Probably the latter, I'm guessing. > > Who gets more royalties from this: Morrissey or Johnny Marr? And I wonder > how much? Well, I've wondered about this myself. I don't know if I've seen the commercial you're referring to, but are you sure it's the Smiths version and not a cover? Has anyone seen that WB show Charmed? The theme song is a lame cover of How Soon Is Now (well, it's definitely a cover of a Smiths song and I think it's How Soon is Now but I'm not positive because I haven't listened to the Smiths very much in years...I still haven't gotten around to upgrading my Smiths tape collection to CDs). Anyway, I've been wondering if Morrissey or Johnny Marr get any royalties for this at all. And do they have the right to tell the WB or Nissan that they can't use the song even though it's not their version? Joel ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 12:56:39 -0700 From: Joel Mullins Subject: Re: Austin show tanter@tarleton.edu wrote: > The doors open at 7--we > could have dinner before or something? I'd love to show off my kids!! Well, I'm gonna be on a really tight budget, so I may get some fast food or something. But we should all meet up somewhere before the show. Those people who want to eat can eat, and the rest of us can drink. Joel ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 11:58:10 PDT From: "Capitalism Blows" Subject: Re: [susan331@earthlink.net: Robyn story #2] <(he somehow manages to survive without a computer and call waiting)> call waiting is seriously fucked up. i always ignore it. i was wondering just last night which number this is. i think it's more than eighteen, though. even if we take just full-length albums, don't include bootlegs, catalog compilations, or greatest hits recordings, we'd have (i think), in (roughly) chronological order: A CAN OF BEES UNDERWATER MOONLIGHT INVISIBLE HITS [i don't consider this a "greatest hits" compilation] TWO HALVES FOR THE PRICE OF ONE LIVE AT THE PORTLAND ARMS BLACK SNAKE DIAMOND ROLE GROOVY DECAY GROOVY DECOY I OFTEN DREAM OF TRAINS FEGMANIA! GOTTA LET THIS HEN OUT! INVISIBLE HITCHCOCK ELEMENT OF LIGHT GLOBE OF FROGS QUEEN ELVIS EYE PERSPEX ISLAND RESPECT THE KERSHAW SESSIONS GIVE IT TO THE THOTH BOYS WHERE ARE THE PRAWNS? YOU AND OBLIVION MOSS ELIXIR MOSSY LIQUOR LIVE AT THE CAMBRIDGE FOLK FESTIVAL STOREFRONT HITCHCOCK [cd] STOREFRONT HITCHCOCK [lp] JEWELS FOR SOPHIA ...anything i missed? if not, then JEWELS is #28. bullshit! KEN "Givin' handjobs for smack" THE KENSTER _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 12:37:11 PDT From: "Capitalism Blows" Subject: Re: SF in-store DAMN AND BLAST!! two years i've been waiting for him to tour the continent so i could follow him, and he picks the one month when the wto will be in seattle. unbelievable! now, if he could only be coaxed into pushing it back 'til december, this would be perfect... _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 14:38:08 -0500 From: "JH3" Subject: Re: rock and/or roll quote needed Jeme writes: >So I had my friend Erika stand behind me while I sat in a chair and read. >She spoke only the parenthetical bits and gave good contrast to my >narrative. >I'm thinking JH3's piece needs a similar treatment to prevent confusion >when it's read aloud. Jeme is right - if I'd known that Hollie had to read the thing aloud, I would have written it altogether differently. Or maybe written something different altogether, such as this lightly-revised version of that recent Ben Folds Five single, "Army" (Sorry if some of the rhymes don't quite work properly): - ----------------- Well I thought about consulting Dad said "Son, that sounds quite nice!" So I thought, yeah I'm the worst at everything So I took my old man's advice Three years at C.L.C. Learned COBOL and Fortran (almost dead?) I thought about a M.B.A. I should have joined a band instead... Bought a Windows 95 box Got a job at "Micropay" Citing failure to be a team player I got fired in May But by June had my own company With "dot-com" after its name So I did a worthless IPO and Made a lot of phony product claims... Been drinkin' a lot today... In this time of overpaid suits On the eve of Y2K poots I say as I collect loots "God please spare me massive lawsuits!" 'Cause my vendors just ignore me And my customers deplore me Soon the nation will Al-Gore me But my slacker past is nipping at my heels... Been drinkin' a lot today... Been drinkin' a lot today... I smoked about... a carton... - -------------------------- Maybe you could do some sort of karaoke thing with that? - -John "still less than 250 words" Hedges ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 12:40:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: The Smiths and selling cars and killing warlocks On Sat, 31 Jul 1999, Joel Mullins wrote: > Carole Reichstein wrote: > > Who gets more royalties from this: Morrissey or Johnny Marr? And I wonder > > how much? > Well, I've wondered about this myself. I don't know if I've seen the > commercial you're referring to, but are you sure it's the Smiths version > and not a cover? Or better, often a commercial will use a similar sounding bit to a popular song. You get some musicians together and use similar instrumentation and mix to some pop song and play roughly in the same key and the same chords, but mix it up just a little or alter the timing a bit. Very common. > Has anyone seen that WB show Charmed? The theme song is a lame cover > of How Soon Is Now (well, it's definitely a cover of a Smiths song and > I think it's How Soon is Now but I'm not positive because I haven't > listened to the Smiths very much in years...I still haven't gotten > around to upgrading my Smiths tape collection to CDs). You're kidding me! Now, see... you know that godawful flick The Craft? Well, Charmed, I thought, was obviously capitalizing on the success of that movie with mystical teeny boppers. Well, that movie contained (I think the closing credits) a cover of How Soon Is Now? by The Smoking Popes. It was really bad. > Anyway, I've been wondering if Morrissey or Johnny Marr get any > royalties for this at all. And do they have the right to tell the WB > or Nissan that they can't use the song even though it's not their > version? Morrissey/Marr are usually creditted with songwriting and publishing for smithssongs. If someone covers their tune, they get royalties. But I'm not sure where permission comes in. I was pretty sure that anybody could cover any tune they like, but if they're going to try to make a dime, they have to pay royalties fixed by the publisher. If you're going to use the song for commercial purposes, it's a whole different fee schedule. Generally, fee schedules for commercial tunes are so ridiculously high, the agency just chooses a different track or does the sneaky trick above (as long as lyrics aren't an issue)... or convinces the client to lay out the cash. At W&K, I watched one account supervisor convince Microsoft to spend $40K on a Dean Martin song for a thirty second European spot just because the art directory thought it would be funny. So you never know. But yeah, you need performer and publisher's permission for a song. But it's quite complicated for covers (like permission to play a song on an album vs. permission to promote an album as containing that song). Talking out some nonverbal orifice, I'm sure. J. - -- ________________________________________________________ J A Brelin Capuchin ________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 15:46:42 -0400 From: four episode lesbian Subject: Re: life is good MC 900 Ft steve rapped: >Wouldn't Eb look cute with a tangerine iBook under his arm? It just >might go with that shirt of his. ;) does anybody else think of Eb everytime you see the tv-head guy in those toyota commercials? +w ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 16:40:24 -0500 From: tanter Subject: RE: Austin show We're staying at the Radisson on Town Lake, arriving Friday. Shall we meet there at 5:30?? We'd like to go somewhere cheap--must be some good "studenty" places? Anyone know of a good vegetarian restaurant in Austin? Marcy L. Tanter Assistant Professor of English Tarleton State University Stephenville, TX 76401 254-968-9892 (9039 to leave a message) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 14:54:56 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: The Smiths and selling cars and killing warlocks >Or better, often a commercial will use a similar sounding bit to a popular >song. You get some musicians together and use similar instrumentation and >mix to some pop song and play roughly in the same key and the same chords, >but mix it up just a little or alter the timing a bit. Very common. There's some commerical which I noticed in recent times...I think it may be for a long-distance telephone company? Anyway, the theme music is almost exactly like the old (Cugat?) standard "Brazil," except the chords were given a half-turn, etc. so that it wasn't the same song. Anyone know what I'm talking about? Eb, still operating without an email address book, for the time being.... ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 14:55:08 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: The Smiths and selling cars and killing warlocks >Or better, often a commercial will use a similar sounding bit to a popular >song. You get some musicians together and use similar instrumentation and >mix to some pop song and play roughly in the same key and the same chords, >but mix it up just a little or alter the timing a bit. Very common. There's some commerical which I noticed in recent times...I think it may be for a long-distance telephone company? Anyway, the theme music is almost exactly like the old (Cugat?) standard "Brazil," except the chords were given a half-turn, etc. so that it wasn't the same song. Anyone know what I'm talking about? Eb, still operating without an email address book, for the time being.... ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 16:47:03 -0700 From: Joel Mullins Subject: Re: [susan331@earthlink.net: Robyn story #2] Capitalism Blows wrote: > TWO HALVES FOR THE PRICE OF ONE > LIVE AT THE PORTLAND ARMS > GIVE IT TO THE THOTH BOYS > WHERE ARE THE PRAWNS? What exactly are these? I've heard them mentioned before, but I don't know much about them. Am I correct in assuming that none of these exist on CD? Ya know what we should do? We should start our own very small record label, specifically for the purpose of releasing this stuff on CD. It could be done with Robyn's help, if he was interested. He could do nice liner notes and maybe even include a story. We could make only a limited number of copies and just let Robyn sell them at the Museum. That way, we could all get it on CD and Robyn could make a little money. I can't think of any reason why he wouldn't want to do this. What do you think? I promise I'll buy one of each. Joel ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 16:57:01 -0700 From: Joel Mullins Subject: Re: SF in-store Capitalism Blows wrote: > DAMN AND BLAST!! two years i've been waiting for him to tour the continent > so i could follow him, and he picks the one month when the wto will be in > seattle. unbelievable! now, if he could only be coaxed into pushing it > back 'til december, this would be perfect... I would assume that the tour would last for more than a month. He might be just saying that the tour will *begin* in November, which could mean November 1 or November 30. Eddie, if he's still touring the states in late December, I'd consider following him with you. I'm graduating in early December, so a road trip would be nice before I begin the daily grind. Joel ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 17:05:46 -0700 From: Joel Mullins Subject: Re: Austin show tanter wrote: > > We're staying at the Radisson on Town Lake, arriving Friday. Shall we meet > there at 5:30?? We'd like to go somewhere cheap--must be some good "studenty" > places? Anyone know of a good vegetarian restaurant in Austin? The Magnolia Cafe is pretty good. I don't remember what their prices are like. But they have a lot of vegetarian stuff. I was really annoyed the first time I went there because I had a lot of trouble getting a normal iced-tea...without all that fruity shit in it. But I can just have a couple of beers or something. Is no one else participating in this anymore? What happened to Zelda and Gene? Joel ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 15:59:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: [susan331@earthlink.net: Robyn story #2] On Sat, 31 Jul 1999, Joel Mullins wrote: > Capitalism Blows wrote: > > TWO HALVES FOR THE PRICE OF ONE > > LIVE AT THE PORTLAND ARMS > > GIVE IT TO THE THOTH BOYS > > WHERE ARE THE PRAWNS? > What exactly are these? I've heard them mentioned before, but I don't > know much about them. Am I correct in assuming that none of these exist > on CD? Yeah, I don't think it's fair to count them as legit releases, either. Maybe Two Halves, but the others are pretty shakey. I'm also guessing that the reviewer was looking at only Robyn and R&tE and no live albums or comps... that should just about give you 18. > Ya know what we should do? We should start our own very small record > label, specifically for the purpose of releasing this stuff on CD. It > could be done with Robyn's help, if he was interested. He could do nice > liner notes and maybe even include a story. We could make only a > limited number of copies and just let Robyn sell them at the Museum. > That way, we could all get it on CD and Robyn could make a little money. > I can't think of any reason why he wouldn't want to do this. What do > you think? I promise I'll buy one of each. First, are you willing to put up the ten or twelve grand it would take to produce even a limited run of all four discs? Second, are you willing to pay whoever actually owns the recordings for their rights? I'm pretty sure Robyn (or his corporate self) owns Where Are The Prawns? and Give It To The Thoth Boys, but the other two are quite old and probably belong to somebody else. Buy the LP, burn a cd, draw a pretty picture. J. - -- ________________________________________________________ J A Brelin Capuchin ________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 16:05:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Capuchin Subject: Album count. On Sat, 31 Jul 1999, Capitalism Blows wrote: > <(he somehow manages to survive without a computer and call waiting)> > call waiting is seriously fucked up. i always ignore it. No more fucked up than telephones ringing in general. > > i was wondering just last night which number this is. i think it's more > than eighteen, though. even if we take just full-length albums, don't > include bootlegs, catalog compilations, or greatest hits recordings, we'd > have (i think), in (roughly) chronological order: > > ...anything i missed? if not, then JEWELS is #28. You didn't miss anything, but I also wouldn't call some of these "outings" since they contain largely already released material. They probably go something like this: > A CAN OF BEES > UNDERWATER MOONLIGHT > INVISIBLE HITS [i don't consider this a "greatest hits" compilation] > BLACK SNAKE DIAMOND ROLE > GROOVY DECOY > I OFTEN DREAM OF TRAINS > FEGMANIA! > INVISIBLE HITCHCOCK > ELEMENT OF LIGHT > GLOBE OF FROGS > QUEEN ELVIS > EYE > PERSPEX ISLAND > RESPECT > YOU AND OBLIVION > MOSS ELIXIR > STOREFRONT HITCHCOCK [cd] > JEWELS FOR SOPHIA And that makes eighteen. > TWO HALVES FOR THE PRICE OF ONE > LIVE AT THE PORTLAND ARMS > GROOVY DECAY > GOTTA LET THIS HEN OUT! > MOSSY LIQUOR > THE KERSHAW SESSIONS > GIVE IT TO THE THOTH BOYS > WHERE ARE THE PRAWNS? > LIVE AT THE CAMBRIDGE FOLK FESTIVAL > STOREFRONT HITCHCOCK [lp] And these are probably considered something like reissues or different versions of released work or discounted live tracks or fan-club only releases or whatever. > entirely overdub-free--> > bullshit! I'm still not decided on this one. > KEN "Givin' handjobs for smack" THE KENSTER Um, while Mackey very clearly says "crack" in his song, it's conceivable that you, eddie, do it for smack considering what I hear is very high quality stuff in your home town. J. - -- ________________________________________________________ J A Brelin Capuchin ________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 18:31:50 -0500 From: Zelda Pinwheel Subject: Re: Austin show marcy wrote: >> >> We're staying at the Radisson on Town Lake, arriving Friday. Shall we meet >> there at 5:30?? We'd like to go somewhere cheap--must be some good >>"studenty" >> places? Anyone know of a good vegetarian restaurant in Austin? joel responded: >The Magnolia Cafe is pretty good. I don't remember what their prices >are like. But they have a lot of vegetarian stuff. I was really >annoyed the first time I went there because I had a lot of trouble >getting a normal iced-tea...without all that fruity shit in it. But I >can just have a couple of beers or something. > >Is no one else participating in this anymore? What happened to Zelda >and Gene? Magnolia's a good choice. I'm vegan and my boyfriend's a carnivore, and we both chow down there frequently. It's cheap and close to the Radisson too. Unfortunately with the way things have been going at work, it looks like I'll barely be able to make it to the show on time...so I'll have to bow out of any pre-show merriment. I am, however, open to meeting up after the show for coffee/drinks. xoxox zelda ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 18:52:51 -0700 From: Joel Mullins Subject: Re: [susan331@earthlink.net: Robyn story #2] Capuchin wrote: > First, are you willing to put up the ten or twelve grand it would take to > produce even a limited run of all four discs? No. I'm nominated you guys to do that. > Second, are you willing to pay whoever actually owns the recordings for > their rights? Once again, someone besides me should do this. I don't have any money. > Buy the LP, burn a cd, draw a pretty picture. That's a good idea, one that I've already thought of (I have the SH LP on CD-R). The problem with this is that I have to find all those LPs before I can put them onto CD. Joel ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 18:02:28 -0700 From: "Russ Reynolds" Subject: Rew covers I was just surfing through the All Music Guide and I noticed that besides "Walking On Sunshine" and "Going Down To Liverpool" two other K. Rew tunes have been recorded by other artists. Anyone heard of/know anything about Tim Lee? Sez he's worked with Mitch Easter and Will Rigby (of the dB's) but not much else to go on. He recorded a version of "Don't Take Her Out Of My World" (one of the songs Kimberley sang lead on on the first K&TW album). Also a group called Universal Honey (similar/related artists: Berlin, Aimee Mann) recorded a version of "Nightmare" which I thought was a pretty cool choice. Has anyone heard either of these two covers? - -rUss ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 18:37:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: JT, Sting, and polishing up the Jewels "Andrew D. Simchik" wrote: > And happily, slagging a pair of lousy old musicians doesn't > exclude the possibility of simultaneously slagging a group of > godawful young ones like Limp Bizkit. They make Poison look > like Yo-yo Ma. i don't know why i know this, but supposedly the guitarist with poison (cc something) studied music under Itzhak[sp?] Perlman. that said, as much as i hate lumpy muffin, i can't say it's their fault (or whichever band it was) that rapes seem to have occurred in the mosh pit at woodstock anymore than the beatles caused the tate-la bianca murders in beverly hills in 1968(9?). psychos do as psychos do. and even an aural narcotic like yanni wouldn't have stopped the cretins in question...... unless i misunderstood or misremember the original poster about this. and i do kinda like "fire & rain," though beyond that i couldn't be bothered one way or the other by james taylor. at least he's pleasantly dull, unlike, say jewel who's aggressively dull. > Speaking of slagging, as I predicted (but did not expect), JfS > is indeed > growing on me. > I'll make a further prediction: the last song I'll really like > will be > "Mexican God," which > right now seems a yawner of an opener. It will excite me > right after > "Sweet Mouth" does. > If not right before. Second half of JfS still brilliant, > "NASA" and > "Sea-Tac" much less > annoying than they were at first. This up-to-the-minute > report brought to > you by grants > from Kristin Hersh and the Pretenders, whose new albums waited > patiently > for me to finish > JfS. > > Drew > > -- > Andrew D. Simchik, wyrd@rochester.rr.com > http://home.rochester.rr.com/wyrd/ > > > _____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V8 #282 *******************************