From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V8 #279 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Friday, July 30 1999 Volume 08 : Number 279 Today's Subjects: ----------------- RE: Reading, writing and...... [ultraconformist@mail.weboffices.com] Re: thought this was funny [ultraconformist@mail.weboffices.com] Re: thought this was funny [BC-Radio@corecom.net (Brett Cooper)] pagan music [DDerosa5@aol.com] Re: thought this was funny [Joel Mullins ] SH and MTs [DDerosa5@aol.com] JfS Review in Denver's Westword [Tom Clark ] RH Interview in Consumable Online [Tom Clark ] Re: thought this was funny [Tom Clark ] Re: pagan music ["Livia" ] Re: thought this was funny [Capuchin ] Be patriotic--drink crappy American beer! [DDerosa5@aol.com] big business and scruples ["Andrew D. Simchik" ] Re: JfS Review in Denver's Westword [hal brandt ] Re: Be patriotic--kill my cat! [delia winthorpe ] Getting sex at home ["Andrew D. Simchik" ] Austin show [tanter@tarleton.edu] Re: Be patriotic--kill my cat! ["Livia" ] Re: thought this was funny ["Livia" ] Re: big business and scruples ["Livia" ] Re: thought this was funny ["Livia" ] Re: patriotic'ers--don't maim my cart! [delia winthorpe ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 16:45:03 -0600 From: ultraconformist@mail.weboffices.com Subject: RE: Reading, writing and...... >I'm getting crotchety as well, much rather prefering to go to small clubs to >see the odd band than to an outdoor venue. Maybe I'm just not as much of a >people person as I had been in my not so distant youth. I don't know about "people person". I think it's because I -do- like people that I'd rather not be around too very many at one time- they stop being individuals and start becoming more like a scary herd of rhinos destined to trample me any minute. I think this is also part of the reason that I would much rather be seeing an artist I know I could potentially talk to if I wanted. I'm just sort of....I dunno, I want heroes, not icons. Fer chrissakes, the MABD show at the Metro had too many people and was too distant for me. I'm just an old crank really, is what it is ;), Love on ya, Susan 'Momus? That guy is sinister!' Marilyn Manson, as reported by Haig Bedrossian ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 16:48:10 -0600 From: ultraconformist@mail.weboffices.com Subject: Re: thought this was funny >Furthermore, junior high and high school is where people learn to >interact with the opposite sex. REALLY? Love on ya, Susan veteran of all-girl education who actually tends to get along better with the XYs 'Momus? That guy is sinister!' Marilyn Manson, as reported by Haig Bedrossian ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 13:44:00 -0800 From: BC-Radio@corecom.net (Brett Cooper) Subject: Re: thought this was funny Joel Mullins writes: >My biggest concern with home schooling is that it would probably not >include drinking, drugs, sex, or competition. Where are kids gonna >learn how to use a condom? The parents sure as hell aren't gonna teach >it. All my dad ever said to me about sex was "it's not something you do >in the backseat of a car," which ironically, is exactly where I lost my >virginity. And where else besides public schools are kids gonna learn >the important life lessons, like not to drink liquor after you've >already started on beer, or not to mix barbituates with champagne? You make some very valid points. But not everyone who goes to public school will have to deal with all of these issues. I would say that some will have to deal with the sex thing while others deal with drugs. >Furthermore, junior high and high school is where people learn to >interact with the opposite sex. Basically, what I'm saying is that >there's a hell of a lot more to learn during those years than just >what's in the books. I don't think anything can replace a public >education. Maybe and maybe not. I was public schooled. My girlfriend, who was home schooled, is not only a well-adjusted individual, but she seems to have a lot more personality than the zombies that walk the halls groggily due to having to get to school too early in the morning. You see, my girlfriend was able to get a lot of her socialization through other ways such as a job in which she comes into contact with tons of people every day. So you see, school isn't the only place where people learn to interract. >And lastly, I get really sick of hearing this Puritanical Christian >Nightmare that drugs, alcohol, and sex are all EVIL! They're far from >it. In fact they can all be great things if used wisely. I'd be >willing to bet that America has the highest rate of alcoholism in the >world. I wonder why that is. Could it be this "Just Say No" bullshit >isn't working? Maybe we should get off this abstinence kick and teach >kids how to be responsible for a change. True to a certain point. I can't say using LSD, cocaine, pot, or any other mind-altering controlled substance is a good thing, either. Just ask Jimmy Hendrix or Janis Joplin. Brett ***************************************** Cooper Collections P.O. Box 876462 Wasilla, AK 99687 (907) 376-4520 http://www.corecom.net/~no6pp/Cooper_Collections.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 18:06:17 EDT From: DDerosa5@aol.com Subject: pagan music form the category of music I used to embrace, then distanced myself from, and am now listening to again, only occasionally ashamedly: the Waterboys, Mike Scott is Irish, pagan, and corny, so he's perfect! and the band includes Anthony Thistlethwaite, he of the "ghastly mellow saxophones" when he worked with Robyn early on... A Pagan Place would be the logical song, though "Church Not Made With Hands" has prettier shouting. ALso, his cover of Yeats' "Stolen Child" off which one, Room to Roam? dave ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 17:20:37 -0700 From: Joel Mullins Subject: Re: thought this was funny Brett Cooper wrote: > > Joel Mullins writes: > >And lastly, I get really sick of hearing this Puritanical Christian > >Nightmare that drugs, alcohol, and sex are all EVIL! They're far from > >it. In fact they can all be great things if used wisely. I'd be > >willing to bet that America has the highest rate of alcoholism in the > >world. I wonder why that is. Could it be this "Just Say No" bullshit > >isn't working? Maybe we should get off this abstinence kick and teach > >kids how to be responsible for a change. > > True to a certain point. I can't say using LSD, cocaine, pot, or any other > mind-altering controlled substance is a good thing, either. Just ask Jimmy > Hendrix or Janis Joplin. I wouldn't exactly call Joplin and Hendrix "responsible" either. If they were, they'd most likely still be alive. Joel ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 18:48:26 EDT From: DDerosa5@aol.com Subject: SH and MTs I know I already posted the Onion review of MABD, but now that the movie is finally opening (tomorrow!), we'll start getting local reviews...I won't post the rest, but thought this would be a good chance to point y'all there, as there is also a good interview with Robert Pollard (should I feel safe assuming many Robyn fans also enjoy Guided by Voices?), and reviews of Kristin Hersh, TMBG, Captain Beefheart, and the Music Tapes (I included a snippet at the bottom--think I will skip the show, after all). Oh, and book reviews about Kubrick and Gilliam. I'm surprised they didn't make the Apples show tomorrow a pick, but fine, I don't want a big crowd in this heat... Storefront Hitchcock Jonathan Demme's simply conceived, beautifully wrought Storefront Hitchcock splits the difference between two of his seminal works: 1984's Talking Heads concert film Stop Making Sense, arguably the greatest of its kind ever made (a close race with Woodstock and The Last Waltz), and Swimming To Cambodia, a mediocre Spalding Gray monologue propped up by astonishingly subtle cinematic effects. A monologist and a musician, Robyn Hitchcock connects his pristine, eccentric, acoustic folk-pop with amusingly surreal digressions that fall off into the bizarre recesses of his imagination and then snap back with sharp seriocomic insight. Recorded over two days in an abandoned New York City storefront on 14th Street, Storefront Hitchcock begins on a bare stage, with Hitchcock standing with his back to a large window as traffic passes by and curious pedestrians gawk inside. A few accessories are added to the minimalist design as the film progresses--a bald light bulb, a mirror ball, a large sculpted tomato--but Demme always keeps his cameras fixed on Hitchcock, and his clean, elegant compositions enhance the intimacy of the performance. Roughly half the set list consists of tracks from Hitchcock's 1996 solo album, Moss Elixir, but it's peppered throughout with songs from Eye, Respect, and his stint with The Egyptians. Hitchcock's concerns about organized religion, a vague beef conspiracy, and a future in which humans are extinct and computers roam the earth are more interesting than anything in Gray's three performance films, though fans are probably more likely to embrace his oddities. After the seriousness of his last three features--Silence Of The Lambs, Philadelphia, and Beloved--Demme's relaxed, ego-free direction is a reminder that the quirky humanist behind Melvin And Howard and Married To The Mob hasn't lost his touch. The warm rapport between director and subject in Storefront Hitchcock all but radiates from the screen. --Scott Tobias and this on the MTs: "What The Single Made The Needle Sing..." sounds like a nightmare collapse of popular music styles, with a Beatles-like melody eventually devolving into cacophony. Both it and the album as a whole are the sort of recordings that reward careful and intensely attentive listening, but also depend too much on it. Not a whole lot here, unlike the work of Neutral Milk Hotel, is enjoyable outside of intensely attentive listening, and even that probably calls too much attention to some juvenile lyrics about alien invaders. Willfully, almost perversely eccentric, Imaginary Symphony is an often fascinating side project that's practically devoid of superficial pleasures like sustained melodies, which also might have been the intention all along. Connoisseurs of violently fragmented pop will find a lot to like here, but 1st Imaginary Symphony For Nomad should prove rough going for anyone else. --Keith Phipps huh. dave ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 16:05:19 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: JfS Review in Denver's Westword Not that anyone listens to me anyway (RE: Egyptians gigs in NYC c. 1986), but there's a JfS review in the latest online edition of Westword: http://www.westword.com/1999/072999/music3.html And for South Bay Fegs(tm), this week's Metro has a nice writeup/interview by Gina Arnold. like a Leonard Cohen record, - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 16:15:04 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: RH Interview in Consumable Online http://www.westnet.com/consumable/1999/07.29/introbyn.html Apparently this "Songs For Sophia" album is pretty good! off to meet Gloster for the MABDR in Santa Cruz... - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 16:46:36 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: thought this was funny On 7/29/99 1:02 PM, Mark Gloster wrote: >>Certainly there are anecdotal exceptions, but I've always believed that >>you can't live as an adult with a person you dated as an adolescent. > >OH MAN! Jeme, no matter how you say it, this is the truest >statement I think I've ever heard (for me.) Complete bullshit. I met my wife when I was 15 and she was 16. We dated for only a few months yet remained friends for six years before getting back together and eventually marrying. I think the fact that we had some "apart time" helped us grow into independent people while we still maintained our common roots. So, maybe cranky northwesterners and confused shark-people can't stand their teenage loves anymore, but the rest of us are able to enjoy a deeper love that can only come from decades of synergistic maturation. - -t "what the hell did i just say?" c ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 16:56:22 -0700 From: "Livia" Subject: Re: pagan music and i'm just welsh/scottish/english/french and, er, somewhat lonely got to pack up my damn computer and get away from the evil b nothing playing right now but a crow or sp - ---------- > From: DDerosa5@aol.com > To: fegmaniax@smoe.org > Subject: pagan music > Date: Thursday, July 29, 1999 3:06 PM > > form the category of music I used to embrace, then distanced myself from, and > am now listening to again, only occasionally ashamedly: > > the Waterboys, Mike Scott is Irish, pagan, and corny, so he's perfect! > and the band includes Anthony Thistlethwaite, he of the "ghastly mellow > saxophones" when he worked with Robyn early on... > > A Pagan Place would be the logical song, though "Church Not Made With Hands" > has prettier shouting. ALso, his cover of Yeats' "Stolen Child" off which > one, Room to Roam? > > dave ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 17:11:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: thought this was funny On Thu, 29 Jul 1999, Tom Clark wrote: > On 7/29/99 1:02 PM, Mark Gloster wrote: > > I wrote: > > >Certainly there are anecdotal exceptions, but I've always believed that > > >you can't live as an adult with a person you dated as an adolescent. > >OH MAN! Jeme, no matter how you say it, this is the truest > >statement I think I've ever heard (for me.) > Complete bullshit. I met my wife when I was 15 and she was 16. We dated > for only a few months yet remained friends for six years before getting > back together and eventually marrying. I think the fact that we had some > "apart time" helped us grow into independent people while we still > maintained our common roots. So, maybe cranky northwesterners and > confused shark-people can't stand their teenage loves anymore, but the > rest of us are able to enjoy a deeper love that can only come from > decades of synergistic maturation. No no no... Tom, your situation sounds just DANDY! I meant that you cant grow into adulthood in a relationship with a person and expect that relationship to continue. Certainly it's possible to become an adult and still be in sync with a person who were into when you were younger. But if you're growing up, you need to be alone and develop your own internal supports independent of another person. I didn't mean that everyone you dated as a youngster is invalid as a mate choice today, I'm saying that you have to be single and adult at some point for your relationships to have strength. J. - -- ________________________________________________________ J A Brelin Capuchin ________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 20:16:48 EDT From: DDerosa5@aol.com Subject: Be patriotic--drink crappy American beer! Jo-el toasted: I'd be willing to bet that America has the highest rate of alcoholism in the world. HA! No way. Just in case the Soviet Union didn't have it, its breakup has insured that Russia does. Wait, let me back up---how much did you want to bet? then again, I'm a bit drunk while I type this, so what do I know? but I'm no alcoholic--I've stopped drinking right now. And that'll last til I get home. I learned my drinking habits from my Mom...so I guess I became soci-able through home schooling. The socialism, on the other hand, came when I met my first beggar in NYC. The anti-social tendencies, from reading too much Science Fiction. And the sociology, when I couldn't find any other good gut courses to take n college. dave if only I had a cigarette, I'd be funny.... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 11:49:18 -0700 (PDT) From: "Andrew D. Simchik" Subject: big business and scruples > From: "Dr.Sticky" > Personally, > as a businessman and > future owner of my own engineering firm(I can dream > can't I?) I'm in > support of business. Don't blame big business > because people allow > themselves to be manipulated and are unwilling to > make their own > purchasing decisions. I'm taking this in off-topic directions, I know, but I don't think "big business" is blameless for its own lack of scruples. The Woodstock "riot" depressed me -- my generation's mentality on display - -- so I'm not defending that as a reasonable reaction to absurdly overpriced consumables. But in general I think you could just as easily say "don't blame consumers because big business is willing to take every opportunity to manipulate and exploit them." Of course people are willing to make their own purchasing decisions -- no one picks a fiver from your pocket and hands you a Dixie cup of soda. But somewhere along the line someone has to say, "hey, we *can* make a $4.95 profit off of every cup -- these kids are stuck in here for three days and working up a sweat and will be thirsty every fifteen minutes. So therefore it must be right and just and our prerogative to take every cent we can possibly get." It would be nice if everyone were willing to shape business practices by making purchasing decisions based on principles rather than capitulation ("oh, well, I sure am thirsty, so I guess I'll let an already obscenely rich industry ream me with a cattle prod just one more time"). But they're not. You yourself will pay $5.95 for a 50-cent drink, and I know I've been known to do that. So you and I, at the very least, are partly responsible for the *ability* of big business to screw ordinary humans over. But we are not responsible for their *willingness* to do so, and that's what I find so reprehensible. I work for a major U.S. corporation. It's increasingly difficult for me to think about the prices we charge, knowing what we actually produce. Drew === Andrew D. Simchik, schnopia@yahoo.com _____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 19:21:41 -0600 From: hal brandt Subject: Re: JfS Review in Denver's Westword > there's a JfS review in the latest online edition of Westword: > > http://www.westword.com/1999/072999/music3.html Note the new date/time for the Denver in-store at the end of this article. /hal ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 18:19:33 -0700 (PDT) From: delia winthorpe Subject: Re: Be patriotic--kill my cat! this has absolutely nothing to do with anything but my cat is REALLY annoying. she can't even properly enunciate her meows. d _____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 22:12:00 -0400 From: "Andrew D. Simchik" Subject: Getting sex at home >From: Joel Mullins >Subject: Re: thought this was funny > >Mark_Gloster@3com.com wrote: > >> My biggest concern with home schooling (this is another huge >> generalization) is that most people who are impelled/inclined to >> do this are less socially adept, or are already somewhat isolated. >> This tends to pass down the social fissures of the adults without >> the usual checks or balances of other influences. Often, the >> persons least qualified or able or just too messed up to teach >> their young are paradoxically the least able to tell. > >My biggest concern with home schooling is that it would probably not >include drinking, drugs, sex, or competition. Yes! You're so right! You can guess which one I'm focusing on here, but who knows when I would have come out of the closet if I'd been homeschooled? And it was easy for me...if I'd been gay, and homeschooled by homophobic parents, I would have been *smothered* by the time I was 16. It's also harder to get into theater and music when you're homeschooled (unless, of course, your parents are musicians). Theater saved my (social and emotional) life when I was in high school. >And lastly, I get really sick of hearing this Puritanical Christian >Nightmare that drugs, alcohol, and sex are all EVIL! They're far from >it. In fact they can all be great things if used wisely. A fucking men. Drew - -- Andrew D. Simchik, wyrd@rochester.rr.com http://home.rochester.rr.com/wyrd/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 21:31:07 -0500 (CDT) From: tanter@tarleton.edu Subject: Austin show So, what's the plan? Alex waas going to the Dallas show but now we're going to go to Austin for the weekend. Anyone want to meet up on Sunday for dinner (cheap)...? Marcy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 19:30:57 -0700 From: "Livia" Subject: Re: Be patriotic--kill my cat! that is a sick fucking subject line and if that's the idea, go to hell. this is a tired lonely bored and even somewhat frustrated ordinary person with nearly as many cats as fingers, so "humor" like that will make me want to drop off the list again. still, perhaps that's the idea... - ---------- > From: delia winthorpe > To: fegmaniax@smoe.org > Subject: Re: Be patriotic--kill my cat! > Date: Thursday, July 29, 1999 6:19 PM > > this has absolutely nothing to do with anything > > but my cat is REALLY annoying. she can't even properly enunciate her > meows. > > d > _____________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 19:49:03 -0700 From: "Livia" Subject: Re: thought this was funny > > > >Certainly there are anecdotal exceptions, but I've always believed that > > > >you can't live as an adult with a person you dated as an adolescent. > > >OH MAN! Jeme, no matter how you say it, this is the truest > > >statement I think I've ever heard (for me.) > > Complete bullshit. I met my wife when I was 15 and she was 16. We dated > > for only a few months yet remained friends for six years before getting > > back together and eventually marrying. I think the fact that we had some > > "apart time" helped us grow into independent people while we still > > maintained our common roots. So, maybe cranky northwesterners and > > confused shark-people can't stand their teenage loves anymore, but the > > rest of us are able to enjoy a deeper love that can only come from > > decades of synergistic maturation. > > No no no... Tom, your situation sounds just DANDY! > > I meant that you cant grow into adulthood in a relationship with a person > and expect that relationship to continue. Certainly it's possible to > become an adult and still be in sync with a person who were into when you > were younger. But if you're growing up, you need to be alone and develop > your own internal supports independent of another person. absolutely and if your "so" is a wilfully immature jerk who presents a sweet and innocent face to the outside world, all the more reason to escape his stranglehold before you drown. and while that might sound like just more reflected lyrics or something, it's precisely my situation, which is why i'm so very desperate to get away from this house. gee, hope i find that room sometime soon, or it's back to dusty old richard's, and no hope of traveling anywhere further than the bloody back yard or maybe exit 7 denny's. woo hoo. > I didn't mean that everyone you dated as a youngster is invalid as a mate > choice today, I'm saying that you have to be single and adult at some > point for your relationships to have strength. but there's a limit to how much single independent adulthood any sane person can take, y'know. cuts both ways, just like that double-edged serrated dagger in paul darrow's terrible book. !mary kay, that's for damn sure ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 19:56:25 -0700 From: "Livia" Subject: Re: big business and scruples > > From: "Dr.Sticky" > > > Personally, > > as a businessman and > > future owner of my own engineering firm(I can dream > > can't I?) I'm in > > support of business. Don't blame big business > > because people allow > > themselves to be manipulated and are unwilling to > > make their own > > purchasing decisions. > > I'm taking this in off-topic directions, I know, > but I don't think "big business" is blameless for > its own lack of scruples. The Woodstock "riot" > depressed me -- my generation's mentality on display > -- so I'm not defending that as a reasonable reaction > to absurdly overpriced consumables. But in general > I think you could just as easily say "don't blame > consumers because big business is willing to take > every opportunity to manipulate and exploit them." > Of course people are willing to make their own > purchasing decisions -- no one picks a fiver from > your pocket and hands you a Dixie cup of soda. > But somewhere along the line someone has to say, > "hey, we *can* make a $4.95 profit off of every cup -- > these kids are stuck in here for three days and > working up a sweat and will be thirsty every fifteen > minutes. So therefore it must be right and just and > our prerogative to take every cent we can possibly > get." > > It would be nice if everyone were willing to shape > business practices by making purchasing decisions > based on principles rather than capitulation ("oh, > well, I sure am thirsty, so I guess I'll let an > already obscenely rich industry ream me with a cattle > prod just one more time"). But they're not. You > yourself will pay $5.95 for a 50-cent drink, and > I know I've been known to do that. So you and I, > at the very least, are partly responsible for the > *ability* of big business to screw ordinary humans > over. But we are not responsible for their > *willingness* to do so, and that's what I find so > reprehensible. sheesh, when i think of how many two-dollar sodas i bought in missouri, ohio, detroit, mn, etc, i'm staggered azt the possible total. and then there's the plane tickets...which seem to vary quite amazingly from a reasonable ~hundred for a shortish flight to 300+ for an evben shorter one to a quoted 700++ to get back to seattle from minneapolis. that one was my undoing, and so i got stuck in the airport for what seemed like the entire divine comedy, but was probably only a few circles of lower purgatory. > I work for a major U.S. corporation. It's > increasingly > difficult for me to think about the prices we charge, > knowing what we actually produce. and i'm getting a job with one that is very careful to charge no more than necessary for all concerned, so i'm quite happy about that. so the future is rosyish, but the present still seems all too gloomy at times. (and no, i will never bid more than i think i can currently afford, except in times of crisis or exultation. but right now, that would involve way too many separayte components for my tired little brain, so no santa cruz for me after all. luckily, i did manage to cancel the ticket.) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 20:03:39 -0700 From: "Livia" Subject: Re: thought this was funny > >Furthermore, junior high and high school is where people learn to > >interact with the opposite sex. > > REALLY? > > Love on ya, > Susan > > veteran of all-girl education who actually tends to get along better with > the XYs and i survived a small hippie-hangover VT boarding school with 30 students and an often-disastrous gender/age ratio, mostly by making friends with the cute guys i wanted but couldn't have (and helping them with their math homework), only to find myself some kind of minor object of desire for 20ish guys ten years later, by which time i had stopped wanting a serious relationship anyway. but then every time i touched one of the little shits he tried to hold on to me for the next few months or indeed years! (on the other hand, then i got to be alpha and often also omega female of his pack while not scaring off its shyer members, which was a fairly nice compensation.) but i've had enough of young guys for fucking EVER, especially aftert the ones that tried to grope and/or play head-games with me in chicago et al. feels like 1961 or something... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 20:37:42 -0700 (PDT) From: delia winthorpe Subject: Re: patriotic'ers--don't maim my cart! woops. that just slipped out. i actually love my cat. she's an asset to my home. sometimes she is quite annoying with her really bad feline accent (and who isn't). livia, i'm sorry if that offended you so - i just got caught up in the morbid sounds coming from my cats mouth. if you re-read your email i think maybe you could learn something about yourself - is there a message hidden in there for you? (see below). i do happen to have two full hands of fingers and one cat. i eat healthy portions of vegetables practically every day. as far as being lonely and bored and frustrated and even ordinary...well, isn't that just plain genetic? d ps: apologies for public display of folly - --- Livia wrote: > that is a sick fucking subject line and if that's the idea, > go to hell. > > this is a tired lonely bored and even somewhat frustrated > ordinary person with nearly as many cats as fingers, > so "humor" like that will make me want to drop off the > list again. _____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 20:58:07 -0700 From: "Russ Reynolds" Subject: Re: Second Spin >I think that somebody on this list had previously >recommended Second Spin. I've ordered a few things >from them without incident.... Second spin rules because: 1. They're fast. 2. They're cheap. 3. They only list what they have in stock. 4. They update their list constantly (order something and watch it disappear from their list!) 5. You can set up a list of 15 personal favorites allowing you to search for tons of CD's with a single click. 6. Never had a single problem. Also they accept trade ins. I haven't taken advantage of this yet but only because they say they won't take promo items and damn near eveything I'd want to unload is stamped with that promo disclaimer. Thanks to whoever it was that recomended SS to me. np: Derek & The Dominoes. "Layla" was the first 45 I ever bought and I still think it's one of the greatest tunes ever recorded. I love that "Nightswimming" was played on the same piano. ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V8 #279 *******************************