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fegmaniax-digest        Tuesday, July 27 1999        Volume 08 : Number 272



                               Today's Subjects:
                               -----------------
  Re: "mucky the Quail is down in SOHO/he's lookin' for someone to score him some blow"  [Tom Clark <tcl]
  old people, they make young people scream  ["John B. Jones" <jbjones@spiri]
  Re: You've got a Cheese Mouth on You, Flabby.  [Terrence M Marks <normal@g]
  Re: JfS Post Mortem Redux            [Michael Wolfe <Michael.Wolfe@kp.org>]
  cheesy Simpsons             [Christopher Gross <chrisg@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu>]
  tim in the pisser       ["Karen Reichstein" <karen_reichstein@hotmail.com>]
  the Luna concert                          [lj lindhurst <ljl@w-rabbit.com>]
  Re: cheesy Simpsons                      [Capuchin <capuchin@teleport.com>]
  Wayne's world...of SounD                                 [DDerosa5@aol.com]
  Re: the Luna concert                     [Joel Mullins <skmull@swbell.net>]
  Re: the Luna concert                                  [dmw <dmw@radix.net>]
  july 31st                             [four episode lesbian <woj@smoe.org>]
  I speak for the trees.               [Natalie Jacobs <gnat@cyberspace.org>]
  Re: july 31st                         [four episode lesbian <woj@smoe.org>]
  no chevre for me, thanks             [Natalie Jacobs <gnat@cyberspace.org>]
  Viva!  Sea-Sick.                    ["The Rooneys" <rooneya@pilot.msu.edu>]
  LOTR Update (NR)                                 [steve <schiavo@home.com>]
  eb all over the world              ["Capitalism Blows" <etews@hotmail.com>]
  Re: E6 wankery  [Stewart Russell 3295 Analyst_Programmer <stewart@ref.coll]
  Re: Gruts                            [Michael R Godwin <hssmrg@bath.ac.uk>]
  33 Degrees in-store update                 [Zelda Pinwheel <chichi@io.com>]
  Re: LOTR Update (NR)                      [Vivien Lyon <vivlyon@yahoo.com>]

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Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 15:56:08 -0700
From: Tom Clark <tclark@apple.com>
Subject: Re: "mucky the Quail is down in SOHO/he's lookin' for someone to score him some blow"

On 7/26/99 2:59 PM, Capitalism Blows wrote:

><but it's a fun song, and it's short.  And putting it down as a live cut was 
>an interesting choice.  Eddie, any idea which show this came from?>
>
>woj, cindy, and i were discussing this.  it can't be from the mill valley 
>show, as glen posited, as you can clearly hear the sound of cutlery clanking 
>onto dishware, and they didn't serve dinner at the sweetwater.  we guessed 
>that it might well be from the largo.  do they serve dinner there?

That's one of the reasons I thought it might have been from the Great 
American Music Hall gig of '97.  They offer a limited menu during the 
show <http://www.musichallsf.com/info/menu.html> and many of us in 
fegLAND! indulged at that particular event.  hmmmm...

Mr. Quail blathered:
>PS: I just re-read the above two paragraphs and realized that I made no
>sense but used a lot of turgid prose and runion sentences to do so. Sorry,
>the coffee has yet to kick in, and I am still feeling fuzzy from all the
>beer, smack, eight-balls and plutonium niborg that Tom Clark made me take
>during his jaunt into the City after MacWorld 99. And Tom, thanks for all
>the free 10-Gig hard drives! I am sure we'll find them very useful.

Man, what a great night!  Ten of us (well, nine after an abrupt 
departure) strolling the streets of lower Manhattan where we happened 
upon a downed 747 whose occupants were throwing the coolest party!  Could 
lj possibly drink seven martinis and still be able to carry Quail home?  
Amazing!

Finally back at the ranch,
- -tc

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Date: 26 Jul 1999 16:03:41 -0700
From: "John B. Jones" <jbjones@spiritone.com>
Subject: old people, they make young people scream

Forgot to mention this about last night's show:

Wayne, lead singer of Flaming Lips, and MC for the night's proceedings, was
introducing Robyn, and told us how he's been a little bit rough on Robyn
during this tour because of his (Robyn's) age. Things like teasing Robyn
when they are traveling in the van from town to town, because he has to
make frequent pee stops. And there were a few other things he mentioned,
too, referring to Robyn's age, but I've since forgotten them. Can anyone
remember the other things he made reference to?

Anyway, he said he had more stuff he could tease Robyn about as part of his
introduction to Robyn's set, but he was trying to be respectful, or felt
maybe he had pushed it too far already. Something. Anyway, his intro was
instead something to the effect of, "Here is someone that is becoming a
good friend of ours."

Oh, by the way, Wayne is no spring chicken himself, he's got some gray
going....even more than I have! :)

I wonder how Robyn feels, playing amongst all these youngsters. Does he
feel old? Like he shouldn't be doing this? I don't know. I know that with
his age, he has a pretty commanding presence. He really had the Portland
crowd pumped up, doing the wave and stuff (just kidding) (about the wave).

He also has much more experience gigging than any of the other acts that
played last night.

He should feel pretty good about himself, I'd say.

just speculating,

=jbj=

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Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 19:20:40 -0400 (EDT)
From: Terrence M Marks <normal@grove.ufl.edu>
Subject: Re: You've got a Cheese Mouth on You, Flabby.

On Mon, 26 Jul 1999 DDerosa5@aol.com wrote:

> (though, insert quibble here, I doubt a full "half the world" is bloated. 
> likely under ten percent. hey, by the way, is cheese primarily a western 
> food? I know Indian food has a bit, but many major cuisines like Chinese 
> never used any cheese so far as I know. what about others? Mr Wolfe, you have 
> a degree in Robynology--get some of your research assistants on this 
> question...)

The way I heard it, adult lactose-tolerance is primarily a caucasian
thing.

Terrence Marks
Unlike Minerva (a comic strip)  http://grove.ufl.edu/~normal
normal@grove.ufl.edu

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Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 23:25:04 +0000 (GMT)
From: Michael Wolfe <Michael.Wolfe@kp.org>
Subject: Re: JfS Post Mortem Redux

Dean Quail wrote:
>On behalf of the whole Board and Department of Comparative 
>Lyrics, I hereby pass your defense of your doctoral dissertation 
>and bestow upon you a Doctorate of Robynology.

Hot damn!  That's going on the mantlepiece!

Chris wrote (and I a-gruyered):
>I had dismissed this as a novelty tune as well, until someone (I 
>think Nick) gave it a different spin.  Namely, that billions of 
>people don't have enough to eat; how absurd is it that we are 
>surrounded by a limitless variety of gourmet cheeses?  Every 
>time another cheese is mentioned in the song it drives home 
>further that disparity.  He sings it in an awfully impassioned 
>way if it's just an ode to cheese.

Well, obviously it's not meant to be taken literally; it refers 
to any manufacturers of dairy products.


Heh heh heh...

- -Michael Wolfe

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Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 20:07:34 -0400 (EDT)
From: Christopher Gross <chrisg@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu>
Subject: cheesy Simpsons

On Mon, 26 Jul 1999 DDerosa5@aol.com wrote:

> So for me it's a novelty song with political thought behind it. On the other 
> hand, on the Sound opinions interview I taped, Robyn was directly asked about 
> the politics in that song, and he demurred, saying "it's about temptation" or 
> some such irrationalization. and I don't doubt that Robyn could have writ 
> those lines later, as if to justify a Pythonesque listing, 

Actually, I think the temptation interpretation makes a lot of sense.  If
I can translate Robyn's lyrics into prose, he's saying "Oooh, cheese is so
irresistably tempting, but it's making me fat and I feel guilty when I
think of the starving Third World, so I shouldn't eat it so much, but it's
so gooood...." Which would mean that the song is about temptation and yet
political at the same time.  

Cheese is also made and eaten in the Middle East (according to tradition
it was invented, or rather discovered, by Arab merchants); so while it may
be a Caucasian thing it is not exclusively a "Western" thing, as the term
Western is generally used.
 
On Mon, 26 Jul 1999, Capitalism Blows wrote:

> --special thanks to michael wolfe for putting me up for a night, as well
>as
> hosting me for a day (cool trivia!  did you know that many of the
>character
> names for The Simpsons derive from portland streets?  "quimby",
>"lovejoy",
> "ankeny", "otto", "van houten", and some others i can't remember.  

A while back I read a nice little essay about the Simpsons written by a
Shakespearean scholar.  Let's see, can I find a cite, yes!

"The Greatest TV Show Ever." Paul A Cantor: The American Enterprise,
Washington; Sep/Oct 1997; Vol. 8, Iss. 5; pg. 34-7

(Mind you, I don't normally read the American Enterprise, which is kind of
a right-wing journal of popular culture; I just stumbled across it at
work.)  Anyway, Cantor points out that not only are Simpsons characters
named after streets in Portland (there's also a Flanders St. and
Terwiliger Blvd.), but the nearby town of Springfield, OR bears a striking
physical resemblance to Springfield, TV.  There's even a bar that looks
like the model for Moe's.  Have any Portland Fegs ever been there?  I
think the front of that bar would be a great Feg photo op!

- --Chris

______________________________________________________________________
Christopher Gross             On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog.
chrisg@gwu.edu

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Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 17:12:43 PDT
From: "Karen Reichstein" <karen_reichstein@hotmail.com>
Subject: tim in the pisser

Eddie said:

>many people encountered robyn in the crocodile's pisser.  i >encountered 
>tim.  i told him that they should play Superkeen on >sunday night, and that 
>he could tell robyn that i'd
>said so.  alas, they did not play it.

You cornered Mr. Keegan at the urinal and asked for a song request?!?

Isn't there a proper etiquette for this sort of thing?

I'm jealous, though.

Karen


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Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 11:48:20 -0400
From: lj lindhurst <ljl@w-rabbit.com>
Subject: the Luna concert

so she was repelling the monkeys with her umbrella. i asked her to
watch my back as i took pictures of the evil hairy guys. then i
protected her as she took photos. the monkeys kept trying to attack
from all sides so the only thing we could do is keep swinging the
stick/umbrella all around us. the chinese must beat the sh*t out of
this guys because they were very reluctant to attack our fronts where
we had sticks. they kept trying to attack our backs so we had to keep
turning. anyways, we made it to the top and survived.  monkeys went
away as soon as we left the forest near the peak. mental note: when a
chinese guy offers to sell you a stick-- buy it.

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Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 17:51:45 -0700 (PDT)
From: Capuchin <capuchin@teleport.com>
Subject: Re: cheesy Simpsons

On Mon, 26 Jul 1999, Christopher Gross wrote:
> On Mon, 26 Jul 1999, Capitalism Blows wrote:
> > --special thanks to michael wolfe for putting me up for a night, as well
> >as
> > hosting me for a day (cool trivia!  did you know that many of the
> >character
> > names for The Simpsons derive from portland streets?  "quimby",
> >"lovejoy",
> > "ankeny", "otto", "van houten", and some others i can't remember.  
> A while back I read a nice little essay about the Simpsons written by a
> Shakespearean scholar.  Let's see, can I find a cite, yes!
> "The Greatest TV Show Ever." Paul A Cantor: The American Enterprise,
> Washington; Sep/Oct 1997; Vol. 8, Iss. 5; pg. 34-7
>
> (Mind you, I don't normally read the American Enterprise, which is
> kind of a right-wing journal of popular culture; I just stumbled
> across it at work.)  Anyway, Cantor points out that not only are
> Simpsons characters named after streets in Portland (there's also a
> Flanders St. and Terwiliger Blvd.), but the nearby town of
> Springfield, OR bears a striking physical resemblance to Springfield,
> TV.  There's even a bar that looks like the model for Moe's.  Have any
> Portland Fegs ever been there?  I think the front of that bar would be
> a great Feg photo op!

Now, I knew that about Flanders and Quimby and Otto and Springfield, OR
and all that. I think there are several bars that would make a passable
Moe's.  I actually had a huge argument about this with a listmember
regarding which Springfield (of the dozen or so in the states) the TV
rendition imitates.  Matt Groening's high school is about four blocks from
my apartment.  There's a Bart Simpson square in the sidewalk near there.  
Let me see... Mt. Skinner is right outside Springfield, OR.

HOWEVER...  I had no idea that there were Simpsons characters named
Terwilliger, Lovejoy, Ankeny, or Van Houten.

I mean, I love The Simpsons, but I think it's much cooler that Michael
Wolfe grew up just blocks from Klickitat Street.
J.
- -- 
________________________________________________________

J A Brelin	<Capuchin@teleport.com>		Capuchin
________________________________________________________

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Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 20:52:21 EDT
From: DDerosa5@aol.com
Subject: Wayne's world...of SounD

Eddie reported from the ever-so-hot Mr. Coyne: he said that 
he'd never said that you *couldn't* tape (which belies dave's report, though 
you heard that second-hand, dave, yes?)  he said, rather, that he'd never 
said you *could* tape. 

Yeah, I'd heard it from Derek, the taper from Indiana who hasn't gotten a 
tape to me yet. His exact report was that Wayne didn't want him to be given 
an audio pass; you must realize that shows at the Metro are handled by Jam 
Productions, who can sometimes make stormtroopers seem subtle. If on the 
other hand you like having your package grabbed by strangers, go to every 
show you can. So, this guy was told he couldn't bring in his recorder unless 
he had permission from all of the bands, which he then got from Robyn and 
Sebadoh, and Wayne (by Derek's report) actively said no to a pass for him, 
which meant he had to take the recorder back out to his car.

At least that's why I remember him saying, but I'll check the details if 
anyone cares. Obviously these details only matter if you get any bouncer 
grief for having a recorder, which doesn't sound like was true on the left 
coast. lucky stiffs.

dave
so, some of you had security strips on your CDs and some didn't? I did.
so, I still don't know whether to see the Music Tapes. hmmmmm.
so, are non-western people lactose intolerant or not? get the story straight.
Robyn's not, as we found out from Viv. 

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Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 20:10:57 -0700
From: Joel Mullins <skmull@swbell.net>
Subject: Re: the Luna concert

lj lindhurst wrote:
> 
> so she was repelling the monkeys with her umbrella. i asked her to
> watch my back as i took pictures of the evil hairy guys. then i
> protected her as she took photos. the monkeys kept trying to attack
> from all sides so the only thing we could do is keep swinging the
> stick/umbrella all around us. the chinese must beat the sh*t out of
> this guys because they were very reluctant to attack our fronts where
> we had sticks. they kept trying to attack our backs so we had to keep
> turning. anyways, we made it to the top and survived.  monkeys went
> away as soon as we left the forest near the peak. mental note: when a
> chinese guy offers to sell you a stick-- buy it.

What the hell does this have to do with a Luna concert?  And when and
where did they play?

Joel

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Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 23:00:09 -0400 (EDT)
From: dmw <dmw@radix.net>
Subject: Re: the Luna concert

so let me get this straight: instead of going to see luna, you rented _big
trouble in little china_??


On Mon, 26 Jul 1999, lj lindhurst wrote:

> so she was repelling the monkeys with her umbrella. i asked her to
> watch my back as i took pictures of the evil hairy guys. then i
> protected her as she took photos. the monkeys kept trying to attack
> from all sides so the only thing we could do is keep swinging the
> stick/umbrella all around us. the chinese must beat the sh*t out of
> this guys because they were very reluctant to attack our fronts where
> we had sticks. they kept trying to attack our backs so we had to keep
> turning. anyways, we made it to the top and survived.  monkeys went
> away as soon as we left the forest near the peak. mental note: when a
> chinese guy offers to sell you a stick-- buy it.
> 

- - "seventeen!" cried the humbug, always first with the wrong answer.

- - oh no!! you've just read mail from doug = dmw@radix.net dmw@mwmw.com
- - get yr pathos:www.pathetic-caverns.com -- books, flicks, tunes, etc.

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Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 23:30:59 -0400
From: four episode lesbian <woj@smoe.org>
Subject: july 31st

fgz,

got the following note from a fegsite visitor:

>Your page mentions that the tentative Pomona show has been cancelled, and
>alludes to a possible show in Ventura.  The local music paper here in San
>Diego lists Sebadoh at a club called Brick by Brick on Sat. the 31st.  So I
>checked Pollstar for RH dates, and he is listed there too, along with the
>other bands from the Brain Degeneration Revue.  Can you confirm this date?
>How about any in-store or radio station appearances for San Diego.  Thanks
>for the help.

i checked pollstar and there appears to be another show on august 5 in
lincoln, nebraska at the royal grove (oooo, sounds druidish). musi-cal
shows neither of these shows, although it does mention the kcrw thing in
los angeles on the 31st.

can anyone in san diego help out? sydney? you still around?

by the way, the ugly pollstar url is:

<http://www.pollstar.com/tour/an.cgi?Artist=Robyn+Hitchcock&Date_From=&Date_
To=&StartSearch.x=15&StartSearch.y=12> 

woj

n.p. shaï nO shaï -- human condition

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Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 23:40:30 -0400 (EDT)
From: Natalie Jacobs <gnat@cyberspace.org>
Subject: I speak for the trees.

>And Bayard- it's hard for me to speak for Gnat, obviously, but if I understood 
>her correctly, neither one of us thinks this is a terrible           
>horrible no good very bad record, we just don't think it's -amazing-.
>It's kind of unlikely that it's going to ever become that for me, tho I 
>think that with multiple listens I will grow fonder of some of it.

Susan speaks for me very well here.  Thank you, Susan.  :)

I think JfS will probably eventually rank alongside "Respect" as an album
that I enjoy and listen to fairly frequently, but isn't one of my
favorites.  

n., who has just spent the past five hours in the ER getting a sprained
foot X-rayed... ouch.

p.s. Quail, at what point do I exceed the QAP XTC ID, the QAP E6 ID, and
the QAP Nick Drake ID?  I want to keep tabs on these things.

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 23:53:34 -0400
From: four episode lesbian <woj@smoe.org>
Subject: Re: july 31st

a tidbit more of information...perhaps...

ticketmaster says that sebadoh (listed as such, not mabd or the flaming
lips -- maybe sebadoh was doing a one-off that night?) on july 31 at brick
by brick in san diego has been cancelled.

+w

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Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 00:01:12 -0400 (EDT)
From: Natalie Jacobs <gnat@cyberspace.org>
Subject: no chevre for me, thanks

>GNAT!  Put that applewood smoked DOWN.  NOW.

NO!  More cheese!  MORE CHEESE!

"Oh, Crow, you know you shouldn't eat cheese, it blocks you right up."
		- Joel Hodgson

>--robyn used the lips' guitar for his electric songs all three nights.

He did in Chicago, too.  That guitar must have some intense vibes
emanating from it now.

>wayne put his hand on my shoulder two or three times during the         
>course of the conversation, 

Lucky you... (why didn't he do that when I met him?  damn this world...)

contaminating the void since 1972,

n.

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Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 22:17:58 -0600
From: "The Rooneys" <rooneya@pilot.msu.edu>
Subject: Viva!  Sea-Sick.

Anyone else get dizzy listening to this album?

I haven't felt so swirled since Queen Elvis, although this rips your arms
out to slow you to a bedspin (Dark Princess, I Feel Beautiful) and slams
them down (NASA clapping) and up (JFS) to whip you into a few g's.  I regret
the lack of a raw Superman at the end to keep me from walking around
nauseous, but it's a fun ride.

On the first pass, it seems like the first RH album that doesn't EMOTE.  I
felt like a pleasant elder was reflecting about memories and people he knew,
not like a professional story teller was sweeping me off into a world of
sadness, passion, fear, pain, joy, death, hate, or etc., etc.

Perhaps we've been spoiled by the previous blood, sweat and tears...

- - Bill

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Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 23:42:07 -0500
From: steve <schiavo@home.com>
Subject: LOTR Update (NR)

For all of you Yippies out there in Fegland, here's an update on the 
casting for the LOTR trilogy:

Gandalf - Ian McKellen
Bilbo - Ian Holm
Pippin  - Billy Boyd
Frodo - Elijah Wood
Sam - Sean Astin

I wonder which of the LOTR sites will develop into the >theforce.net< of 
Middle Earth.  Here's one that's in the running: >ringbearer.org<.

Don't forget to sign the "Save Tom Bombadil" petition!

- - Steve

_______________
We're all Jesus, Buddha, and the Wizard of Oz! - Andy Partridge

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Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 01:16:38 PDT
From: "Capitalism Blows" <etews@hotmail.com>
Subject: eb all over the world

<>NASA Clapping Uh-huh.  A nice poppy tune.  So what?  It's the disposable 
song of the album.
Hmm... This version does not match the ripping solo electric versions from 
late last year, for some reason.>

solo *acoustic*, with harmonica.


<from The Rocket, a music rag covering the Portland and Seattle scenes:
Robyn Hitchcock
Jewels For Sophia

He's getting quite prolific, isn't he?>

i was going to post about this last week, but forgot.  two studio albums 
since february of '93 is "getting quite prolific"?  but, you know, it may 
seem like it to casual observers, as, in that time, he's released KERSHAW 
and YOU AND OBLIVION, as well as the k single; and had a movie about him 
with an accompanying soundtrack; and, of course, the rhino reiussues.


<I think the ME vs. JfS division-lines make some weird sense to me, and 
unfortunatly, I'm probably lean heavily to the ME side.  That's not to say I 
wish Robyn had put out another pastoral folky album...not at all.  ME and 
Storefront are both of a period, and I'm thrilled with the rock-out on JfS.  
It's just when all is said and done, the ME style appeals to me more.>

if there is a strong (negative) correlation between those that are ecstatic 
about one or the other, then that's that, and there's no use trying to fight 
against math.
but i wouldn't want to ascribe it to any sort of stylistic preferences.  
yes, ELIXIR *is* my favorite robyn album.  but just a half a rung below that 
are (in no order) ELEMENT OF LIGHT, RESPECT, TRAINS, and WHERE ARE THE 
PRAWNS?.  in fact, before the advent of MOSS ELIXIR (and i should add that 
when i say "MOSS ELIXIR" i actually mean "MOSS ELIXIR/MOSSY LIQUOR"), 
whenever somebody would ask what his best album was, i'd say it depends a 
lot on what you feel like listening to.  if pyschotic pyschaedelia, try the 
soft boys.  if solo acoustic, TRAINS or EYE.  if poppy oddties, ELEMENT or 
RESPECT.  or whatever.
and while ELIXIR is my favorite album, i prefer him live with the egyptians 
to live solo (though only by a hairsbreadth).


<Old News Dept: Somebody recently posted something to the XTC
list stating that Robyn is the co-author and lead-singer (actually
"deadpanner" is more like it) of a song on Capt. Sensible's
Revolution Now album, called "Vosene". I listened to it again
and I think the guy is right - I'm pretty sure it's Robyn, though
I didn't recognize the voice when I first bought the album. He's
using the pseudonym of "Captain Stupid" - so the song is credited
to "Sensible/Stupid". It wasn't on J. Partridge's or Bayard's list(s)
so I guess this isn't common knowledge... Maybe it's not true?
Anyone care to confirm/deny?>

just listened to it as well.  i can certainly hear the resemblance, but i 
really don't think it's him, although i can't explain quite why.


<Wayne, lead singer of Flaming Lips, and MC for the night's proceedings, was 
introducing Robyn, and told us how he's been a little bit rough on Robyn 
during this tour because of his (Robyn's) age. Things like teasing Robyn 
when they are traveling in the van from town to town, because he has to make 
frequent pee stops. And there were a few other things he mentioned, too, 
referring to Robyn's age, but I've since forgotten them. Can anyone remember 
the other things he made reference to?>

"Earlier in the tour, I was introducing Robyn.  Uh, sometimes he would 
change clothes, and I would kind of make fun of his clothes.  Sometimes when 
we'd have long drives together, he'd have to pee a lot.  I'd make fun of 
that.  But then, we were just talking backstage about how old he is, and 
that sort of stuff.  And I al-- I, I try not to, 'cause he's right there 
behind the stage and can hear everything I say.  I try not to do anything 
that would, sort of, embarrass him in the slightest way.  So, tonight, I had 
a great story, but it, it would've really ruined him.  So I'm just gonna 
introduce him.  Here, here's our good friend, Robyn Hitchcock."
then robyn came on and said, "In fact, the main thing you need to know about 
me is that I'm *very* old."


<You cornered Mr. Keegan at the urinal and asked for a song request?!?

Isn't there a proper etiquette for this sort of thing?

I'm jealous, though.>

nah, all the stalls were full, so i was waiting just outside the head for 
the next available slotting.  tim happened to be the first one done, and as 
he passed me on his way out, i requested Superkeen.  but i did pee in the 
same urinal directly after him, if *that* makes you jealous.


<Now, I knew that about Flanders and Quimby and Otto and Springfield, OR and 
all that.>

wait a second.  there *is* an "otto st." in portland?  i was just making 
that up.  or thought i was.


<I had no idea that there were Simpsons characters named Terwilliger>

sideshow bob.


<Lovejoy>

rev. lovejoy.


<Ankeny>

ankeny i made up.  i mean, it's a real street in portland, as i'm sure 
you're well aware.  but i made up the part about it being a Simpsons 
character.


<or Van Houten.>

and i *thought* i was making up "van houten" too!  is it "van houten st." or 
"van houten ave.", just out of curiosity?  anyways, it's millhouse's last 
name.  the first reference i saw to it was actually in one of the early 
bongo comics.  i want to say it was the one where the puma got stolen.  
skinner was bithcing out millhouse, and addressed him as "van houten", 
rather than "millhouse".  it's since been used in the series (and perhaps 
was before, though i'd never noticed it).


john, we noticed the cigarette thing too.  it was kind of the running joke 
for the entire weekend.  the funniest thing was that they all looked so 
*serious* whenever they'd light up.  as if, if they wouldn't have been able 
to smoke the cigarette at precisely that moment, they'd have to stop the 
concert and send us all home prematurely.


i notice that Blair Witch cracked the top twenty this last week end playing 
on only 31 screens!  apparently, last week it grossed more than its budget 
by a comfortable margin, *on every screen*.  *and*, its per-screen average 
went *up* this week.  wondering if its going to break every record in the 
book when it opens wide this week.  the studios are moving everything out of 
its way, so its surely possible that it could top $40 million.


KEN "God?  He is the biggest bitch of them all" THE KENSTER
















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Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 09:15:30 +0100 (BST)
From: Stewart Russell 3295 Analyst_Programmer <stewart@ref.collins.co.uk>
Subject: Re: E6 wankery

>>>>> "DDerosa5" == DDerosa5  <DDerosa5@aol.com> writes:

    DDerosa5> So, as I went online at LoungeAx.com to get Apples in
    DDerosa5> Steroe tickets, I noticed that the Music Tapes are
    DDerosa5> playing August 7. I remember some talk onlist of them,
    DDerosa5> should I go? can I afford to? can I afford not to?

The words 'twee' and 'precious' are often bandied about regarding The
Music Tapes. They're like a lo-fi They Might Be Giants; if that idea
interests you, then go see 'em.

UK Note: The Music Tapes's CD "First Imaginary Symphony for NOMAD" is
out here August 9th.

 Stewart
 (debating whether I have time to go see Ivor Cutler appear in
  Edinburgh [I actually typed "Edingurgh", which is more apt] in two
  weeks, or whether I have time *not* to.)

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Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 12:54:50 +0100 (BST)
From: Michael R Godwin <hssmrg@bath.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: Gruts

On Tue, 27 Jul 1999, Stewart Russell 3295 Analyst_Programmer wrote:
>  (debating whether I have time to go see Ivor Cutler appear in
>   Edinburgh [I actually typed "Edingurgh", which is more apt] in two
>   weeks, or whether I have time *not* to.)

I note that Ivor is on the Andy Kershaw programme this week, so it looks
as if another Cutler media blitz is under way.

- - Mike Godwin

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Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 08:40:07 -0500
From: Zelda Pinwheel <chichi@io.com>
Subject: 33 Degrees in-store update

I got this from Dan at 33 Degrees:

>Mime-Version: 1.0
>Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 00:18:36 -0500
>To: Zelda Pinwheel <chichi@io.com>
>From: plunkett@nd.org (plunkett)
>Subject: Re: Robyn Hitchcock in-store?

>Zelda - Thanks for the contact, we are trying for it - so far it isn't
>confirmed, but we are trying - if it does happen it will be annouced via
>email etc. But thanks again for the tip
>
>all the best
>
>Dan
>
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My only fear now, is that Robyn will play before 3:30, and I'll miss it
'cos I'll be at work.

zelda

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Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 07:31:56 -0700 (PDT)
From: Vivien Lyon <vivlyon@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: LOTR Update (NR)

> Gandalf - Ian McKellen

YES! AMEN!

> Bilbo - Ian Holm

Oh god! How perfect.

> Pippin  - Billy Boyd

Don't know him.

> Frodo - Elijah Wood

Eh.

> Sam - Sean Astin

What the....huh? I would scream 'NNOOOO!!!', but the
truth is that I can kind of see it. 

But my main question is still "Who's playing Aragorn?"


I think Quail should play Tom Bombadil, and LJ would
make a fantastic Goldberry. 

Vivien
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