From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V8 #263 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Wednesday, July 21 1999 Volume 08 : Number 263 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: seattle, etc. [Capuchin ] Re: JfS [MARKEEFE@aol.com] Re: seattle, etc. [four episode lesbian ] Re: JfS [hal brandt ] RIP [tanter ] Re: fegmaniax-digest V8 #260 ["Russ Reynolds" ] Re: EJ ["Russ Reynolds" ] Re: gimme the car ["Russ Reynolds" ] Re: gimme the car [Eb ] Re: Afire, J.S. Owl Hopes. ["John B. Jones" ] Re: gimme the car [dmw ] lost in the aether [digja611@student.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan)] MABD lives on, tape delay [DDerosa5@aol.com] Re: Jeneane? [S Dwarf ] Re: gimme the car [Joel Mullins ] Re: lost in the aether [Joel Mullins ] Re: lost in the aether [Eb ] Re: they of the eternal deadpan smirk ["Gene Hopstetter, Jr." ] Re: The Fabled Interview Transcript [Vivien Lyon ] Re: JfS [Capuchin ] Re: various spewage [Michael R Godwin ] Re: they of the eternal deadpan smirk [dmw ] Re: Religion! Oh no! The Quailpocalypse is nigh! [Paul Christian Glenn ] Re: they of the eternal deadpan smirk ["Miles Goosens" Subject: Re: seattle, etc. On Tue, 20 Jul 1999, four episode lesbian wrote: > and a flyer for a 1986 egyptians performance at the starry end ($12, i > think; doesn't say what city the starry end is in, but i'm assuming > it's in the seattle area since the show was promoted by monqui which, > i believe, is a seattle-based outfit). didn't buy any of it. The Roseland Theater was formerly known as the Starry Night. Both in Portland. I have no idea what the Starry End might have been, but the Egyptians definitely played the Starry Night in 1986. Monqui is based in Portland as well, but promotes shows throughout Oregon and Washington. Monqui also manages a few bands, including the Dandy Warhols. So there you go. J. - -- ________________________________________________________ J A Brelin Capuchin ________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 20:04:54 EDT From: MARKEEFE@aol.com Subject: Re: JfS In a message dated 7/20/99 3:28:45 PM Pacific Daylight Time, mholden666@earthlink.net writes: << one of my cats jumped up on the self in my headboard >> It's comforting to know that I'm not the only Feg who keeps a few extra selves around the house . . . in spice jars, at the back of the closet, etc. Never know when one might get lost! - ------Michael K. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 20:12:58 -0400 From: four episode lesbian Subject: Re: seattle, etc. MC 900 Ft Capuchin rapped: >The Roseland Theater was formerly known as the Starry Night. Both in >Portland. > >I have no idea what the Starry End might have been, but the Egyptians >definitely played the Starry Night in 1986. my memory of the exact name was fuzzy -- the starry night was definitely what that flyer was for. thanks for the clear-up. (temporarily misplaced the url for the tewsian gig list, so i didn't check there -- or robynbase - -- first.) +w n.p. lamb -- fear of fours ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 19:13:00 -0600 From: hal brandt Subject: Re: JfS Eddie the Wise opined: > the album just doesn't do it for me like most robyn albums do. > 1. the percussion bugs me. it's either intrusive, wholly inappropriate, or > flat-out too wimpy. they don't seem to get it right anywhere, except maybe > NASA Clapping. when we were discussing the record last week, cynthia > mentioned that she wished that if he was going to use a band, he'd just used > andy & morris, which was *precisely* what i'd been thinking. this could've > been a spectacular egyptians record. > 2. natalie jane mentioned production. i think this is where it falls down, > as well. in fact, i *love* ROBYN HITCHCOCK'S XMAS PARTY, which would > indicate that the songs are just wonderful. but the album doesn't --i dunno > quite how to explain it-- doesn't seem to leap out of the speakers and > attach itself relentlessly to your person the way ELIXIR does. Amen, Eddie. I just got done listening and feel similarly. The only track I'll probably play on occasion is ANTWOMAN and Robyn spoils it with the cheesy "Everybody!" during one chorus. Bring back Morris and Andy. Hoping the outtakes CD will yield some gems, /hal PS: Kubrick Fest on TCM Wednesday and Thursday night. Get the VCR's rolling. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 20:14:57 -0500 From: tanter Subject: RIP Drummer Keith Wilkinson, brother of ex-Squeeze guitarist Kevin Wilkinson, committed suicide on the 17th. Marcy L. Tanter Assistant Professor of English Tarleton State University Stephenville, TX 76401 254-968-9892 (9039 to leave a message) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 18:59:29 -0700 From: "Russ Reynolds" Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V8 #260 >>Does anyone know the name of the first hidden track after "Jewels for Sophia"? > > >I don't know about y'all, but I'm calling it "Hoot Hoot". and I'm calling it "Little Priestess" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 19:16:45 -0700 From: "Russ Reynolds" Subject: Re: EJ Dolph: >ELIZABETH JADE >Why does it work where "Viva! Sea-Tac" fails? (1) the lyric isn't so >obvious. (2) as all garage-rock songs should, it includes the line "I love >the way you rock and roll." If you're gonna stomp, stomp like Godzilla. (3) the simple yet searing guitar solos! If you aren't shaking your moptop to the guitar breaks in this song you have no soul! (or possibly just no hair). ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 19:23:29 -0700 From: "Russ Reynolds" Subject: Re: gimme the car >>going all the way back to "gimme the car" from before their first album. > >Still, the only Femmes song which truly grabs me. c'rect me if I'm wrong, but didn't "Gimme The Car" come AFTER the first album? That's the order they arrived at MY college station anyhow... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 19:54:49 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: gimme the car >>>going all the way back to "gimme the car" from before their first album. >> >>Still, the only Femmes song which truly grabs me. > >c'rect me if I'm wrong, but didn't "Gimme The Car" come AFTER the first >album? That's the order they arrived at MY college station anyhow... Not sure. The only thing I own by the Violent Femmes is that "Gimme the Car" 12" on Slash, which has three other tracks (two on the album, one not, if memory serves). I do know that "Gimme the Car" was the first VF song I ever heard, for whatever that's worth. Then I was let down when I heard the full album, because the legitimate menace of "Gimme the Car" had deteriorated into geeky skiffle beats and insincere, campy teen angst. Blah. Eb PS Finally played the new Superchunk album tonight. It's quite good...a bit artier and more subdued (producer: Jim O'Rourke), and it works really well. ------------------------------ Date: 20 Jul 1999 20:31:49 -0700 From: "John B. Jones" Subject: Re: Afire, J.S. Owl Hopes. >OK, my track-by-track. > >MEXICAN GOD -- I am probably the only person who started humming Beck's >"Cold Brains" during the intro, but there you go... Wow! that is incredible, Dolph. I was listening to Mutations the other day, and it immediately popped out at me.....Robyn has ripped off the perfect album opener, straight from Mr. Beck Hansen. I'm glad I'm not the only one that thought this. I even had the inkling to mention it here on the list, but forgot about it. Thanks for reminding me!! =jbj= Radio as I "Imagine" it: http://www.imagineradio.com/mymusiclisten.asp?name=lobsterman "If we evolved a race of Isaac Newtons, that would not be progress. For the price Newton had to pay for being a supreme intellect was that he was incapable of friendship, love, fatherhood, and many other desirable things. As a man he was a failure, as a monster he was superb." - Aldous Huxley ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 23:49:56 -0400 (EDT) From: dmw Subject: Re: gimme the car On Tue, 20 Jul 1999, Russ Reynolds wrote: > > >>going all the way back to "gimme the car" from before their first album. > > > >Still, the only Femmes song which truly grabs me. > > c'rect me if I'm wrong, but didn't "Gimme The Car" come AFTER the first > album? That's the order they arrived at MY college station anyhow... after all these years, i could well be wrong, but i thought "car" showed up on some label sampler of recent signings ...what was it, slash? ... several months before the first album came out. with some other song not nearly as memorable. - -- d. just back from seeing the donnas, an eb-eh fer sure, but i had fun. like seeing the ramones in a small club, only cuter. - - "seventeen!" cried the humbug, always first with the wrong answer. - - oh no!! you've just read mail from doug = dmw@radix.net dmw@mwmw.com - - get yr pathos:www.pathetic-caverns.com -- books, flicks, tunes, etc. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 16:09:23 +1200 From: digja611@student.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) Subject: lost in the aether Sent a couple of messages the other day which seem to have been lost in transit (probably sitting in a pixelstore in downtown Manila waiting to be recycled into ethnic pixel matting to be sold on to tourists at grossly inflated prices, but I digress). One of them was pretty much spew anyway: to cut a long story short I was annoyed at a smoker on the list saying that his smoking isn't harming anyone other than himself. Well, speaking as an asthmatic whose condition is aggravated by passive smoke, I disagree with you. I have had to call off a gig before now because I could not sing in the smoky atmosphere where I was booked (I had been told that the smoke level in the venue would be 'low' - it wasn't. Also, I have had to nurse a frmer partner through fairly nasty bronchial ailments caused by her parent's heavy smoking. Not a pleasant thing to see happening to someone you care about. The other letter had two parts - one to congratulate the everincreasing Tanter family and it's wonderful Marcy. The other was a bit of personal wank, really. Someone had mentioned stories with talking dogs, and I thought it was time to mention a series of stories that I have written (and am trying to get to a publication stage). Called "Tales from Uncle Yuri", they are old dog folktales that are being recounted by a labrador called Valiant (or Raliant - try saying a V with labrador lips!) wo remembers hearing an old wise Borzoi called Uncle Yuri tell them to him when he was a pup. Ralkiant isn't the world's most intelligent dog, and Yuri was partly senile (he remembers hunting wolves with the tsar... a bit of a stretch even for an old borzoi), so the truth has become doubly garbled and doubly weirded. There are three stories so far - "The tale of the piranids", which links Egyptology and modern medical research; "The salt in the sea" tells of the secret link between dinosaurs and submarines; and "Ligion" tells who created the world and why dogs howl at the moon (I'm quite proud of this one). I have a few more ideas for stories - perhaps once this damned PhD is out of the way... If anyone would like to see any of these stories... well, you know my address... James James Dignan___________________________________ You talk to me Deptmt of Psychology, Otago University As if from a distance ya zhivu v' 50 Norfolk Street And I reply. . . . . . . . . . Dunedin, New Zealand with impressions chosen from another time steam megaphone (03) 455-7807 (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 00:39:31 EDT From: DDerosa5@aol.com Subject: MABD lives on, tape delay After biking home from work, I just wanted a cold shower. I threw on the radio, WXRT (even though I was mad at them) and jumped in to cool off. Getting out, I realized that there was talking: it was Greg Kot and Jim DeRogatis doing "Sound Opinions", and they were about to interview Robyn and Wayne Coyne! I threw a tape in and got it all, though Robyn only sang two songs: Cheese Alarm and I Feel Beautiful. It was on tape delay, so no questions, but it was fun. Robyn at one point suggested that he had in his ouerve (sp?) over 1000 songs in various stages of completion Wayne is interesting, talking about his legal concerns with the FM transmitter, yet I'm frustrated with him like I was with Bono after he went "post-modern" at the same time they were suing Negativland for sampling them. What am I talking about? Well, before I left work I called Valparaiso, IN and reached Derek Cullimore, the guy who taped the instore on Sunday. It was a minidisc recorder, and he said it came out great til his battery died about a minute before the end of Cynthia Mask, which was the last song. But, to go back to being mad at Wayne, Derek told me that tried to record the Saturday gig, and was upfront about it: he had permission from Robyn and Sebadoh (he's a big fan), but Wayne said "no audio permits"! It wasn't allowed at all, so he ended up not getting it, and is interested in having me call him with any copies that do show up. The reason I bring this up is that it would seem to present both a problem for tapers on the tour, but a solution which suggests itself too: call someone outside and tell them what FM frequency the headphones are on, and they should be able to tape it...I dunno, maybe this is unnecessary, but I too am interested in tapes of the Chill shows. Ooh, they just announced that Robyn and Wayne will be doing a song together...and I realized that I didn't tape the interview with Wayne, cause I paused it during a commercial--aren't you glad you're not relying on me to tape shows? They're talking about whether taking a lot of acid affects your ability to "shag birds"--referring to Lennon and Barrett, of course, not themselves (Robyn referred to tripping as "mortgaging your future") Wayne, of course, was at least more ambivalent. They did manage to tie it in a bit to Brain Degeneration. They did what was called a "talking blues" about rainbows, but never did their promised version of Give Peace a Chance. Greg and Jim finally cut it short, but said that they expected this to be the best show of the summer. They ended with a Lips album outtake called "The Captain is a Cold-hearted and Egotistical Bastard", as symphonic as the rest of the album. Anyway, I should have the tape within a few days. Derek isn't online, but he is interested in trading with folks; he'll send me a list of what he has and wants, but I know that he wants Rob, Bob and Albert, and some Unhatched Crablings, and I only mentioned them cause I'd just gotten them--Eddie, I'll probably print out your list and send it to him with the Sound Opinions I'm trading him for. I'll ask him if he wants me to post his address or phone number--it'd probably be easier than me being a middleman. Time to get some beer. dave ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 02:41:03 -0400 (EDT) From: S Dwarf Subject: Re: Jeneane? Brett Cooper wrote: > Am I the only one who thinks Jeneane Garofolo (sp.) > is a hottie? no. strange how hollywood decides she should be the "ugly" one when they reverse sexed Cyrano. i love funny women though. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 06:39:04 -0700 From: Joel Mullins Subject: Re: gimme the car dmw wrote: > just back from seeing the donnas, an eb-eh fer sure, but i had fun. They were in that movie Jawbreaker. It was the only good part of the movie. Joel ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 07:33:20 -0700 From: Joel Mullins Subject: Re: lost in the aether James Dignan wrote: > One of them was pretty much spew anyway: to cut a long story short I was > annoyed at a smoker on the list saying that his smoking isn't harming > anyone other than himself. Well, speaking as an asthmatic whose condition > is aggravated by passive smoke, I disagree with you. I have had to call off > a gig before now because I could not sing in the smoky atmosphere where I > was booked (I had been told that the smoke level in the venue would be > 'low' - it wasn't. Also, I have had to nurse a frmer partner through fairly > nasty bronchial ailments caused by her parent's heavy smoking. Not a > pleasant thing to see happening to someone you care about. No matter what your ailments may be, the individual who owns the club still owns the culb, and he should have the right to decide whether or not to allow smoking in his club, just like you have the right to decide whether or not to allow smoking in your house. If someone is bothered by smoke, then they can choose not to go there. I hate to see you cancel gigs, though. I do sympathize with your dilemma, but I think there's a better solution to the problem than implementing anti-smoking legislation. Like someone has already said, it's an issue of courtesy and respect. There's a bar in Austin where this band called the Asylum Street Spankers used to play a lot. It was a pretty small place, so it could get really smoky fast. When it did begin to get a little smoky, the band would politely request than no one smoke for 30 minutes in order to let all the smoke clear. And everyone complied. I had no problem with that request, and if I had lit up a cigarette, I would've been verbally abused by the crowd (who, by the way, also heckled people who talked during the shows; this band didn't use any mics or amplification of any kind so no one talked during the sets). Obviously, this kind of approach wouldn't work everywhere. If the band you're in is hard-core punk, for example, then I would think the crowd would reply to any "please don't smoke" requests with a lot of "fuck yous." As far as I'm concerned, if you ask me not to smoke, I won't smoke, or I'll go somewhere else. My point here is that we shouldn't legislate courtesy. It should be taught to us by our parents and teachers. Joel P.S. Also, I don't claim to know all the answers, nor be right all the time. These are just my ideas on the subject, right now. And I do admit that there are some problems with them. I just don't know the best way to fix them. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 05:54:16 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: lost in the aether Joel: >As far >as I'm concerned, if you ask me not to smoke, I won't smoke. Don't smoke. Eb PS Speaking of being lost in the aether, Junior's body has been found. Awww. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 09:46:08 -0500 From: "Gene Hopstetter, Jr." Subject: Re: they of the eternal deadpan smirk >From: Eb > >Eb, who despite not being much of a fan, regrets missing an easy chance to >see the Femmes for $3 in a university utility room, just before their debut >album took off in popularity "Come on dad, gimme the keys..." haven't heard that song in a long time. Well, I did manage to catch the Violent Femmes pretty early in their career. I saw them put on a good, energetic show at a VFW hall in 1986 or so. Even the dumb punkrawkers who slam danced to "Add It Up" didn't ruin the show. But seeing them open for the B-52s in a huge arena in 1995 or so was pretty frickin' bad. Other bands I saw live before they made it big: Red Hot Chili Peppers (before MTV "discovered" them), Skinny Puppy (twice, wow, what a show), Dinosaur, Jr. (the good J/Lou/Murph lineup), Pearl Jam (heck, I was at that widely-bootleg Tipitina's show in New Orleans, not that I enjoyed it), saw the Meat Puppets countless times before they made it to the arena circuit, the Butthole Surfers in a club the size of my living room in 1985, etc. Regrets: I never did see REM before Warner Brothers (did anybody else? like did they tour for "Murmur"?), and I did pass on seeing U2 in a small club in 1983, but it's fun to be able to brag to guys who are in college now and say, "Yeah, I saw that band when they were still hungry." Oh, and I foolishly passed on a Minutemen show. D'oh! NP: Red Chair Fadeaway, "Curiouser and Curiouser" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 10:50:04 -0400 From: lj lindhurst Subject: Re: The Fabled Interview Transcript Sorry Viv, but I have to add just a couple of "truth translations" to your interview... Our lil Viv writes: >M: Nope. It's totally recording now. Okay- Well, first >I want you to know that I've met you before- >R: Uh huh. >M: And it was really embarrassing, so I'm not going to >tell you when it was. >R: Uh, okay. >M: But I was wearing a polka-dot shirt. TRUTH TRANSLATION: "but I was all dressed up like Michy, hoping I would fool you!" >R: Oh? >M: If that gives you any clue.... >R: Okay, well.... >M: It was when you did the Sandy Denny Tribute, in New >York, in November. TRUTH TRANSLATION: "at the Sandy Denny Tribute, in New York, when I was STALKING YOU." Otherwise, cracklin good job, Viv! l ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 11:05:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Vivien Lyon Subject: Re: The Fabled Interview Transcript - --- lj lindhurst wrote: > Sorry Viv, but I have to add just a couple of "truth > translations" to your > interview... From anyone else I would be hopping mad right now, but LJ knows me too well. There are several more truth translations in there, but I'm NOT having a contest to find them as I emphatically and catagorically deny that I'm stalking Robyn. I'm merely....following him around a little. Actually, the *real* truth translations in the interview revolve around me constantly mentioning my father, and pointing out Robyn's age relative to mine....it was all rather Electra-fied, sooth to say. Vivien _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 08:24:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: JfS On Tue, 20 Jul 1999, hal brandt wrote: > Amen, Eddie. I just got done listening and feel similarly. I felt that way for a while, but the more I listen, the better it gets. It's a great housealbum... like, for playing at home while you're at home enjoying being at home. Sometimes you dance and sometimes you just sit on the sofa. > The only track I'll probably play on occasion is ANTWOMAN and Robyn > spoils it with the cheesy "Everybody!" during one chorus. Now here's where you're totally fucked up. That "Everybody!" is one of the most clever, fun things on the whole album. "Being just contaminates the void! EVERYBODY! Being just contaminates the void!" Brilliant. He's getting everybody around to admit that their very existence detracts from the perfect sanctity of the universe. I think it's awesome. > Bring back Morris and Andy. Whiner. Grow up and move on. The Egyptians were great and did their piece and what Robyn's doing now is different, but equally worthwhile. I certainly can't see that they would have made one change at all to the "Everybody!" in Antwoman. > Hoping the outtakes CD will yield some gems, I'm looking forward to the outtakes disc, too... but I'm really happy with what I have. Je. - -- ________________________________________________________ J A Brelin Capuchin ________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 17:03:11 +0100 (BST) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: various spewage WRT the 'Being just contaminates the void - Everybody!' controversy, he certainly got a whole boatload of people singing along on the 'Robyn at Sea' excursion, but it fell flat at the '97 WOMAD, where nobody wanted to join in. I can imagine it grating on record after a few spins. Bayard wrote: >sadly, there is often the case of the stronger cro magnon wiping out the >smarter neanderthal. but that doesn't happen as much any more. mostly >b/c the concept of strength has changed. There was an item in the paper the other day about a discovery in Spain of a hybrid Cro-Magnon+Neanderthal. This find contradicts (for Spain, anyway) earlier research suggesting that the two did not interbreed. I must say, I was under the impression that they were sub-species - homo sapiens sapiens and homo sapiens neanderthalensis. And if they were sub-species, there is no reason why they shouldn't interbreed. Is there a human biologist out there who can clarify? On Fri, 16 Jul 1999, Eb wrote: > the bonus tracks on Safe as Milk and The Mirror Man > Sessions are the same tracks that were contained on the I May Be Hungry But > I Sure Ain't Weird compilation (released in 1992, I believe?). Plus, one > new track on Safe as Milk titled "Korn Ring Finger." Thanks for info. I was disturbed to see on one website that the Mirror Man Sessions were _still_ being marketed as having been recorded in 1965. This date is a straight typo which goes back to the first issue (the LP with the 'broken glass' gatefold cover) - in fact it was recorded in 1968, the year when the band consisted of John French, Alex Snouffer, Jeff Cotton, Jerry Handley and Don. >And why do fat, sweaty guys wear sleeveless shirts to bounce around >packed nightclub floors? Because it's more comfortable than wearing thick woolly cardigans? - - Mike Godwin PS Talking of 1968, the worst asthma attack I ever had at a gig was when the Floyd were playing in the back room of a pub that year (Fishmonger's Arms, Wood Green, if you're interested). Although they were at a low point in their career, the place was packed and everyone (except me) was puffing away on ciggies. I fled after Astronomy Domine and spent the rest of the week wheezing. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 12:20:22 -0400 (EDT) From: dmw Subject: Re: they of the eternal deadpan smirk On Wed, 21 Jul 1999, Gene Hopstetter, Jr. wrote: > Regrets: I never did see REM before Warner Brothers (did anybody > else? like did they tour for "Murmur"?), and I did pass on seeing U2 the _murmur_ tour was fairly limited, but it did happen, and there were even some shows in support of "chronic town." i wasn't at the _murmur_ show at the old 9:30 club in washington dc -- i became a fan right about the time _reckoning_ was released -- but i know about forty people who claim to have been -- strangely, they all remember something between 6 and 20 other people in attendance. the tour book for "fables...," i think, was the one that listed every date they'd ever played up til that time, a handy reference. and yeah, some of us here saw r.e.m. before they started to ... er, signed to warner brothers. for you taper types, i recommend seeking out some of the 1985 shows. 1984 also yielded some great performances, but they were spottier. 1985 was their pinnacle, as far as i'm concerned, although they've conducted themselves with commendable dignity throughout their superstar phase, and released compartively few major embarrassments. - -- d. - - "seventeen!" cried the humbug, always first with the wrong answer. - - oh no!! you've just read mail from doug = dmw@radix.net dmw@mwmw.com - - get yr pathos:www.pathetic-caverns.com -- books, flicks, tunes, etc. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 11:26:32 -0600 From: Paul Christian Glenn Subject: Re: Religion! Oh no! The Quailpocalypse is nigh! At 7/15/99 6:24:00 PM, you wrote: >*The Gospel According to Frank* LOL! This was beautifully written and hilarious! ;) Paul Christian Glenn | "Besides being complicated, trance@radiks.net | reality, in my experience, http://x-real.firinn.org | is usually odd." -C.S. Lewis Currently Reading: "The Complete Stories" by Flannery O'Connor ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 12:32:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Christopher Gross Subject: Dinosaur Jr. On Wed, 21 Jul 1999, Gene Hopstetter, Jr. wrote: > Other bands I saw live before they made it big: Red Hot Chili Peppers > (before MTV "discovered" them), Skinny Puppy (twice, wow, what a > show), Dinosaur, Jr. (the good J/Lou/Murph lineup), Me too! This is one of my few saw-them-before-they-made-it-big coups. Dinosaur Jr. played a "one last fling before finals" show at Penn State in December 1987, when I was a wee young freshman. I have no memory of the other bands. The hardcore punk snobs that I was with hated them (IIRC one guy mocked J Mascis for simply having effects pedals). I, on the other hand, went out and bought _You're Living All Over Me_, still one of my favorite albums. But I never saw Skinny Puppy, alas.... - --Chris, sad because one of my favorite journal titles, _The Progressive Fish-Culturist_, is no more; the fools changed it to _North American Journal of Aquaculture_. Thus one more bit of poetry is gone from the world. ______________________________________________________________________ Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 09:26:37 -0700 From: "Miles Goosens" Subject: Re: they of the eternal deadpan smirk On Wed, 21 Jul 1999 09:46:08 Gene Hopstetter, Jr. wrote: >Regrets: I never did see REM before Warner Brothers (did anybody >else? like did they tour for "Murmur"?) Before, during, after, you name it. Long endless tours through FABLES, three-month tours (one Europe, two U.S.) for LIFES RICH PAGEANT AND DOCUMENT. I have many memories, both first-hand and magnetic, of these shows... >still hungry." Oh, and I foolishly passed on a Minutemen show. D'oh! I got the twofer with REM on my first REM show, Dec. '85 at Radford, VA, just two weeks before the d.Boon accident, may he rest in peace. Their opening set at Radford is still one of the most intense live performances I've ever seen. later, Miles - --- /===================================================================\ | Miles Goosens outdoorminer@mindspring.com | | http://www.rsteviemoore.com outdoorminer@zdnetmail.com | | http://www.mindspring.com/~outdoorminer | | | | "Why everything has to get in the way all the time I don't know." | | -- Janet Ingraham Dwyer | \===================================================================/ Free web-based email, anytime, anywhere! 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