From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V8 #260 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Tuesday, July 20 1999 Volume 08 : Number 260 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: I think this is longer than Natalie's Travelogue, and I didn't even travel [Vivien Lyon ] Mexican God [DDerosa5@aol.com] Los Angeles Times Review of J4S [Griffith Davies ] disproportionately large schlong [Michael Wolfe ] Pissy Fripp [Eb ] RE: all tapers unite! ["John B. Jones" ] Re: Jewels for Sophia ["John B. Jones" ] Denver in-store [hal brandt ] grosses: [DDerosa5@aol.com] Re: Fissy Pripp [Mark_Gloster@3com.com] Jewels For Sophia. ["Dr.Sticky" ] more JFS praise ["John B. Jones" ] MABD questions [Joel Mullins ] smoking and christianity ["Russ Reynolds" ] Minneapolis 7/19 [Charles Gillett ] Re: Jewels for Sophia ["Capitalism Blows" ] Re: Mexican God ["Capitalism Blows" ] Re: speaking of foul spew... [Stewart Russell 3295 Analyst_Programmer ] Re: thoughts [Stewart Russell 3295 Analyst_Programmer ] RE: birth announcement [tanter ] Re: speaking of foul spew... ["Miles Goosens" ] Not exactly a Robyn dream.... [Christopher Gross ] Re: I think this is longer than Natalie's Travelogue, and I didn't even travel [Aaron Mandel Subject: Re: I think this is longer than Natalie's Travelogue, and I didn't even travel I forgot to mention the synchronicity (for me) of the videoscreen prelude to Robyn's set, a sound-bite from philosopher John Searle. I was a philosophy major in college, and John Searle was my hero. Definitely the most accessible, honest, and insightful person writing about the nature of this thing we call consciousness. There. I'm done. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 14:37:38 -0700 From: Michael Brage Subject: Re: Jewels for Sophia Fegs, Does anyone know the name of the first hidden track after "Jewels for Sophia"? Michael ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 17:39:12 EDT From: DDerosa5@aol.com Subject: Mexican God eddie reasonably interpreted: didn't get the impression that he didn't *want* to play it. rather, that he was surprised that people were familiar with it, having only played it once before. Yes, he was stern as a joke. To continue the joke, however, it should be clear that I think he was insinuating that the one time he'd played it before was to record it in the studio. In other words, this would have been the FIRST time he ever played it for a crowd. If serious scholars like Eddie can prove me wrong, OK, but that's my story and I'm sticking to it. dave ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 17:59:59 -0400 (EDT) From: Griffith Davies Subject: Los Angeles Times Review of J4S By STEVE APPLEFORD *** Robyn Hitchcock, "Jewels for Sophia," Warner Bros. Hitchcock is a wise-guy surrealist. His obsessions with the Beatles, sex, death and pop culture haven't always come together into a satisfying musical whole, but "Jewels for Sophia" is his richest, most polished volume yet. He sings here of dark princesses, cheese alarm clocks and Gene Hackman in a voice that is crisp and reedy, fittingly Lennon-esque. Strange, whimsical and memorable. Hitchcock will be at the Palace with the Flaming Lips on Aug. 1. * * * Albums are rated on a scale of one star (poor), two stars (fair), three stars (good) and four stars (excellent). _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 21:50:48 +0000 (GMT) From: Michael Wolfe Subject: disproportionately large schlong Wow! What great name for a band! Also, "gouda skin hendrix". You sure are prolific today, eddie! RCA to 1/8 inch stereo plugs aren't THAT hard to come by. I got one at the very same location that I picked up my MZ-R50. It's very VERY useful -- in addition to hooking up to soundboards, it also lets me take input from my stereo, and give output TO my stereo. As for audience recordings vs. soundboards, I find that this is entirely contingent on the venue for me. I've had pretty good success taping from the audience, even with my putzy little mylar microphone. But in a big, reverb-y hall like the Crystal Ballroom, you might as well forget it -- a non-soundboard tape is going to sound like crap. The type of music makes a difference, too, as does how it is mixed. But I do agree with eddie about his preference for the organic texture that getting audience response lends. > The full schedule is now up at www.bumbershoot.org. Robyn's >playing sometime Monday afternoon at the Opera House (yay!), >just a little bit after Built to Spill (who'll be at some other >location) -- much to the excitement of Michael Wolfe and myself, >I'm sure (well, I'm *very* sure about myself; safe guess with >regards to M.W.). You bet I'm excited! That last BtS show was fabulous! I'm looking forward to seeing them for the 6th time (4th this year). The timing will be tight -- BtS is quite popular in the Seattle area, and getting into the Rock Arena could be a problem. But thankfully, the Robyn gig is in the Opera House, and that's RIGHT next door, so they're doing us a favor there. In '97 I had to choose between them, and that was agonizing. > It looks like that'll probably be the only day I go. >There's some cool stuff on all the other days, but nothing so >cool that I couldn't miss it. I'll probably go up sometime on >Sunday, provided I can find a place to crash. Any other PDX >Fegs forming any plans yet? Let's talk! Oh man. I'm there for FIVE days. It's gonna be great. I LOVE just indulging in whims and my most adventuresome musical impulses. If it's not my thing, I don't even have to feel obligated to stay for the whole show, and can just go seek something else out. Here's my tentative "to see" list: Alejandro Escovedo Billy Bragg Built to Spill Cake Carrie Akre Cibo Matto Countrypolitans Dusty 45's Fastbacks Robyn Hitchcock Imperial Teen IQU Lily Wilde and Her Jumpin' Jubilee Orchestra Lois Pete Krebs and Gossamer Wings Mojo Nixon (!) Pavement Pink Martini REM Rusty Willoughby Son Volt Sonic Youth I'll probably have to pare this down some, due to scheduling conflicts. I've already had to make some tough choices, like missing the Violent Femmes, in addition to some easier ones, like missing the Indigo Girls. But wow! Mojo Nixon! Right on! Make yer' reservations to Seattle, posthaste. - -Michael Wolfe ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 15:35:23 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Pissy Fripp Wednesday 7th. July, 1999; 21.47 Your Diarist has returned exhausted from a day of removals & meetings with Clerk of Works & electricians. The large van from Bridport arrived at 09.07 and, packed to a level of poetry by Tony England, headed off for the store. Delight & Bliss Arising: Toyah, who flew from Glasgow to London last night for a meeting this morning, managed to come by for lunch. She has a show in Exeter this evening, driving back to London tonight & then off to Great Yarmouth tomorrow. After a joyful touching base with The Horse-Who-Is-Not-Large, I followed the van to the store. Now, with psyche dribbling so pitifully that even Mr. Eb (were he not "out of here") might extend his sympathy, I am briefly reporting in. - ------ Yet AGAIN, Robert Fripp snips about me in his online diary. Gawd, what a diva. (The "out of here" [sic] quote refers to me signing off the Elephant Talk list a few weeks ago, with the simple message "I'm outta here.") Eb ------------------------------ Date: 19 Jul 1999 16:11:19 -0700 From: "John B. Jones" Subject: RE: all tapers unite! >give me a john b. jones-recorded d6 audience recording *any* time! *blushes* awww, shucks. thanks for the compliment. but you and michael wolfe are doing phenomenal work now! and i'm doing the married person/father thing now, so my days of taping shows every month is over. last show i taped was soul coughing in OCTOBER of last year!!! that is unexcusable. ------------------------------ Date: 19 Jul 1999 16:13:23 -0700 From: "John B. Jones" Subject: Re: Jewels for Sophia >Fegs, > >Does anyone know the name of the first hidden track after "Jewels for Sophia"? I don't know about y'all, but I'm calling it "Hoot Hoot". =jbj= ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 17:20:14 -0600 From: hal brandt Subject: Denver in-store RobynH is scheduled to do an in-store at Twist & Shout Records on Alameda on 3 Aug. The counter guy speculated "around three o' clock or so". Any Denver fans (still can't bring myself to embrace 'fgz') that would like to hook up, please write. /hal ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 20:05:18 EDT From: DDerosa5@aol.com Subject: grosses: Eyes Wide Shut, at #1, averaged $9457 per screen Blair Witch Project, not in the top ten, averaged $57,407 per screen Hype fest 99! One dead great filmmaker vs. three missing amateurs... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 17:25:05 -0700 From: Mark_Gloster@3com.com Subject: Re: Fissy Pripp It has to be an honor to be pissied upon by Fripp. I was on Elephant Talk for almost a whole day and he never mentions me, unless his convoluded code words are only picked up by Deeshawp. I guess I'll have to do the Rubbersharkian diary on my web site just to make sure that Eb's name never disappears entirely from the web, even if Tom is busy putting kitchen cutlery inside his computer's moving parts. Eb might find a brand new fondue set inside his new hard drive. Maybe even an extra can of sterno. Cheese always goes well on printed circuit boards, and I wonder how many bread squares he can jam into the ram slots. day 1 the prototype: "Remember that a walk through the ocean of most souls would scarcely get your feet wet." from Deteriorata, by Norman Rose Still not sure where I fit in the list of Living, Dead, Not Living items in the sands of time, but I really don't want to be the one who jams up the hourglass of eternity, or crash while driving the runaway bobsled to purgatory. Read a spirited post by Mr. Eb (killer of hard drives, eater of worlds), who is reasonably sure that Mark Gloster and Big Rubber Shark is a prophylactic product advertising campaign and that Robyn Hitchcock is a B+ vector of disease. He did voice some concern over Tom Clark's lack of neural response the last time he was kicked in the groin by a music reviewer (which is a difficult thing to do. Trust me, I've tried to work this one out myself, as Tom has the annoying trait of being more funny than me. Okay, they're all funnier than me and they're out to get me.... It was the strawberries! I digress...) A quail dressed like a man was seen scaling the Empire State Building this morning. He was screaming obscenities at the fashion industry. He informed them that he had a "hmuh and knew how to use it." It seems that he felt that the fashion industry was not following his lead and that supermodels just didn't read enough important literature. There was a stand-off with police and traffic was stopped for many hours, though in New York City, who can honestly say that there was any causal relationship between the two events. As the negotiations grinded to a standstill, a super hero in a bunny suit rescued him. I don't really believe any of this, but it's important to put news items in one's diary to give it that rich fullness of the moment that may be appreciated for years to come by generations and degenerations to come or go as they please pass the anchovy quail patte or else, or else what? exactly. Mr. Eddie "Fuckin'" Tews has abandoned his post in the culinary arena taken a job in the art world involving the sculpting of cheese coverings. This was reported as a huge relief as the state of Washington has been shrinking from Eddie's efforts to get people to eat it. Susan has informed us that she does not want us to urinate on her anymore. Our previous actions were completely inappropriate and in error. Everyone must remember that no means no. Even Robert Fripp and those wacky crints. I spent some of the weekend with the "crabbiness-free, dolph-and-becca-safe" Jeme. Yes, this sounds like a diet version of the real thing, but there really was no lingering aftertaste. Give me some credit, I didn't put him in my mouth, although it is said that while he was snoring on my couch, Mr. Hanky inspected his dentifricial efficiency. Saw Nick and Chris who are much taller in real life than they are via email. Saw Carrie, who it just turns out is another chemical name for Ethyl Keytone. I did not remember that from HS chemistry, since I had a crappy teacher not named Allen (but I spot a redundancy here, no?) I'm still a little tweaked at that guy for flying his cessna into the ocean and screwing up my weekend coverage of le tour de france, but I'm slowly getting over it. Not a big day in sharkworld(tm). A guy from a tobacco company offered me money to advertise his product on my website. When I refused, he said that I would be relegated to absolute obscurity and laughed like one of those villains on the original Wild Wild West TV show. Artemis Gordon was nowhere to pour hot lead in his shorts, unfortunately. Actually, absolute obscurity may be just the step up for which I've been looking! I'll write again when Eb and Bobby Fripp start mentioning me in their vital daily communications, instead of saying hurtful things they couldn't mean about each other. I hope they make up soon. Keep yer stick on the ice. We're all rootin' for ya'. Happies. - -M(sh)ark(boy)g, who really has to get back to work... Disclaimer: this is for entertainment porpoises only. No other aquatic adventure park mammals or sea life allowed. All characters are ficticious, probably including that eb guy, or are at least web bots who have varying degrees of artificial intelligence. This particular bot composing this important article of literary history lost a chess game to a toaster, so your mileage may vary, but try to avoid the other cars anyway as you travel down that highway of life wondering where the next dispensary of cosmic gasoline might be and if you left enough in your tank. I think I must be suffering from cosmic gas right now, too. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 22:12:55 -0400 From: "Dr.Sticky" Subject: Jewels For Sophia. I now have the coveted JFS in my possession. After parting with my girlfriend for the evening, I decided to swing by the local indie cd shop for a Shane MacGowan single that I've had my eye on. Song Without A Name, if you must know. Once at the store I wandered over to the Hitchcock section, and behold, there she was. I asked the salesman about the release date tomorrow, he said they've been on the shelf since last week. Ugh! So I bought it and completely forgot about Shane. Oh, well. 1:MG Excellent! 2:TCA Very Good. 3:V S ok. 4:IFB Excellent! 5:YGASMOYB Excellent! 6:NC ok, at best. 7:SWAL Very good. 8:Antwoman Very Good. 9:EJ ok. 10:N,IDRMG Excellent+! This is my favorite off Storefront. One of my faves of Robyn in general. 11:DP ok. 12:JFS Very Good. I prefer the acoustic, slower stuff over the rockish style tunes. Most rock music gives me a headache these days. Just my Humble Opinion. There's more to this disc. I'll leave that for discovery purposes, just incase nobody mentioned it yet. Dr. Sticky p.s. I don't smoke cigarettes. I smoke cigars several times a week. You know, those big fat stinky ones. My girlfriend who is a cigarette smoker has banished me from smoking at her place, in her car, whenever I'm with her basically. And she's even tried to ban me from smoking in my own apartment! The only place I can smoke freely is on my boat when I'm fishing with my buddies or at the smoke shop. You wanna' talk about social taboos..... ------------------------------ Date: 18 Jul 1999 15:30:02 -0700 From: "John B. Jones" Subject: more JFS praise My pal Butch posted to the Dan Bern list: >P.S. My soundtrack for last night's server maintenence was JEWELS FOR >SOPHIA, the brand new Robyn Hitchcock album. Highly recommended. I'm not >into Robyn's music like I used to be years ago, but this CD is very, very >good. Then I said: Wow! Coming from you, that is QUITE a bit of praise. I do not exaggerate when I say that this is the best album of Robyn material since Queen Elvis/Eye. =jbj= ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 21:53:43 -0700 From: Joel Mullins Subject: MABD questions I sent this earlier, but it hasn't come back to me yet, so I'm gonna send it again. Sorry if you guys get this twice. Hey, I've got a couple of questions: 1. Who is this Sonic Boom guy? There was a guy that went by that name in Jason Pierce's old band, Spaceman 3. Is this same Sonic Boom that's playing the MABD shows? 2. Does anyone have any info on the instore appearances? Is this something that Robyn's doing at every stop, or just a few? Basically, should I be trying to find out if he's doing one in Austin? 3. How much were the RH t-shirts at the show? And did they have various sizes or just XL like they usuallly do? By the way, I find that really annoying. Not everyone is 5'10" and 185 lbs. Some of us need mediums and sometimes smalls. It's like the damn bowling alley that thinks weak people have small thumbs. Joel ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 20:36:45 -0700 From: "Russ Reynolds" Subject: smoking and christianity this just popped into my head after about 20 years or so: "Testament Cigarettes...I smoke 'em...(upward glance) He smokes 'em" I can't remember what movie that's from but it's either Groove Tube, Kentucky Fried Movie or Tunnel Vision. - -rUss np. Stevie Wonder's "Talking Book", got cheap from Second Spin. And they sent me a nice little sticker to boot. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 00:53:50 -0500 (CDT) From: Charles Gillett Subject: Minneapolis 7/19 First.... On Mon, 19 Jul 1999 14:27:03 -0700, Joel Mullins wrote: > 1. Who is this Sonic Boom guy? There was a guy that went by that name > in Jason Pierce's old band, Spaceman 3. Is this same Sonic Boom that's > playing the MABD shows? Yes, in fact Wayne Coyne introduced him as such tonight. Well, he didn't call it Jason Pierce's old band. Pete Kember--I wonder if he'd answer to that name? "We put this love deep in our veins" and so on. I think he's got a CD out with Jessamine under his EAR moniker currently. > 2. Does anyone have any info on the instore appearances? Is this > something that Robyn's doing at every stop, or just a few? Basically, > should I be trying to find out if he's doing one in Austin? He's playing at Let It Be (10th and Nicollet, downtown Minneapolis) at 2:00pm tomorrow. I'll be at work. Heard Sonic Boom/EAR. I liked it well enough, though I would have liked to have been able to sit down somewhere. I thought it was courteous of him to end his piece with the Speak'n'Spell voices saying "This is the end." Robyn set (first four acoustic): Cynthia Mask Viva Sea-Tac Queen Elvis Beautiful Girl I Am Not Me Autumn Is Your Last Chance Kingdom of Love Whoo-fucking-hoo for seven poorly-played songs. No chatter to speak of, except for a comment about the Foshay Tower in Minneapolis--asking if it's still there, and then dedicating a song to it, just like he did a couple years back at an instore. Black shirt with large white dots, blue jeans. His face looked rather greasy. The best thing I can say about the set is that he more or less managed to get from the beginning to the end of each song. I didn't stay for Sebadoh or the Flaming Lips. As it is, I'm only going to get five hours of sleep at best before I have to go to work. I won't be at the instore or Tuesday night's show. - -- Charles ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 00:41:57 PDT From: "Capitalism Blows" Subject: Re: Jewels for Sophia The Further Misadventures of 'Mr. Tongs', perhaps? From: Michael Brage Reply-To: Michael Brage To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Subject: Re: Jewels for Sophia Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 14:37:38 -0700 Fegs, Does anyone know the name of the first hidden track after "Jewels for Sophia"? Michael _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 00:45:19 PDT From: "Capitalism Blows" Subject: Re: Mexican God yes, that's what i took it to mean. to my knowledge, he had never before performed it live. if he had, it would have to have been during one of the italian or australian shows for which we do not have setlists. here's the song's "asking tree" record: Mexican God Lyrics | Tab | Gigs | New Search Author: Robyn Hitchcock Released on 1 records: Jewels for Sophia, 1999 (CD) Warner Brothers No lyrics or guitar tab entered. There are no records of live renditions of this song in the database. These records are incomplete, so if you know of a Robyn Hitchcock appearance at which this song was played, please let us know. _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 08:47:29 +0100 (BST) From: Stewart Russell 3295 Analyst_Programmer Subject: Re: speaking of foul spew... >>>>> "Terrence" == Terrence M Marks writes: Terrence> Driving, as you may have noticed, isn't addictive. Beg to differ. If you have a car, you've got to justify the expense by using it. So it becomes a feedback loop, which is pretty much my definition of addiction. Cars suck. For just one reason, see below: http://www.adbusters.org/magazine/26/countryroads.html Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 00:51:40 PDT From: "Capitalism Blows" Subject: Re: disproportionately large schlong well, i probably shouldn't be further explaining an offlist message. but the gist of it was, he was already at the venue, the sound guy told him to go ahead and plug in, and he didn't have the proper cord handy. getting in shouldn't be *too* much of a problem. the problem will be, if it's hot out, breathing successfully. hmm...i'm still pissed off at billy for calling clinton a "progressive moral force", but i may have to check this out as well. hot fucking damn! needless to say, i hadn't got around to checking out the schedule yet. this is GREAT news! blasphemer! oregonian blasphemer! _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 00:54:09 PDT From: "Capitalism Blows" Subject: Re: speaking of foul spew... speaking of country roads, i've been having a recurring dream that robyn covers the song on JEWELS, even though i know (in my waking life) that he does not. _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 09:02:37 +0100 (BST) From: Stewart Russell 3295 Analyst_Programmer Subject: Re: thoughts >>>>> "Dave" == DDerosa5 writes: Dave> As a lifelong fan of rhubarb Rhubarb? Bleah! I've had better tasting reflux than that bitter slime! Eww! (Guess it could stem from my father making stewed rhubarb without sugar. It's so acidic it leaves the pan gleaming silver...) Dave> Weetabix, surely one of the nastiest breakfast foods Hey, what are you trying to do here? First you advocate that vile dogbarf known as rhubarb, then you make allegations about the Prince of Breakfast Cereals? You just don't know how to eat it. And yeah, it might get a little crusty if left in the bowl, but that's what we have blowtorches for. Dave> Grapenuts seem like manna from heaven They *are* manna from heaven, or at least manna from an evil death-peddling tobacco multinational. Much better, and half the price (and completely unavailable outside the USA, bastard bastard bastard) are the generic "Nutty Nuggets", which we always bring back a good quantity from our US trips. (shakes head in disbelief) Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 05:02:08 -0500 From: tanter Subject: RE: birth announcement Thanks everybody for the great messages--I can't reply to them all but I really do appreciate you all writing (but I do note no one has volunteered to come change nappies...!!). I'll have some photos up on the Kodak photo-online site soon so you can all see my perfect baby! Marcy :) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 05:20:19 -0500 From: tanter Subject: RE: birth announcement Thanks everybody for the great messages--I can't reply to them all but I really do appreciate you all writing (but I do note no one has volunteered to come change nappies...!!). I'll have some photos up on the Kodak photo-online site soon so you can all see my perfect baby! Marcy :) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 05:56:44 -0700 From: "Miles Goosens" Subject: Re: speaking of foul spew... On Tue, 20 Jul 1999 00:54:09 Capitalism Blows wrote: > > > > >speaking of country roads, i've been having a recurring dream that robyn >covers the song on JEWELS, even though i know (in my waking life) that he >does not. As a native West Virginian, the song is even more grating than it is for the rest of y'all because (1) it gets thrown in your face a lot, and (2) not a single thing mentioned in the song ("Blue Ridge Mountains, Shenendoah River") is actually *in* West Virginia. Thanks to VH-1, I now know that the same rat bastards who wrote it (it wasn't John Denver who penned it) were also responsible for "Afternoon Delight"... grrr. Oh, Jason & the Scorchers do a wonderful el destructo version of this on A BLAZING GRACE and on their live MIDNIGHT ROADS & STAGES SEEN, the latter of which I recommend to all... later, Miles - --- /===================================================================\ | Miles Goosens outdoorminer@mindspring.com | | http://www.rsteviemoore.com outdoorminer@zdnetmail.com | | http://www.mindspring.com/~outdoorminer | | | | "Why everything has to get in the way all the time I don't know." | | -- Janet Ingraham Dwyer | \===================================================================/ Free web-based email, anytime, anywhere! ZDNet Mail - http://www.zdnetmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 10:37:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Vivien Lyon Subject: Grape Nutty Nuggets, guilt > Dave> Grapenuts seem like manna from heaven I'm voluntarily on a low-carbohydrate diet, and Grape Nuts have become a guilty pleasure for me. What sick version of hell is it when a body can't even enjoy Grape Nuts in good conscience? Vivien a hell of my own making, no doubt. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 10:43:58 -0400 (EDT) From: Christopher Gross Subject: Not exactly a Robyn dream.... Last night I dreamed that Apple unveiled their new Consumer Portable at the Macworld Expo, and it turned out to be shaped exactly like the "Eggo shaped" JfS promo package that we heard about last month. Was this a prescient dream? We should find out soon.... - --Chris ______________________________________________________________________ Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 07:50:29 PDT From: "D B" Subject: Re: smoking link http://quitsmoking.about.com/library/weekly/aa071999.htm ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 11:22:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Aaron Mandel Subject: Re: I think this is longer than Natalie's Travelogue, and I didn't even travel On Mon, 19 Jul 1999, Vivien Lyon wrote: > I was a philosophy major in college, and John Searle was my hero. > Definitely the most accessible, honest, and insightful person writing > about the nature of this thing we call consciousness. is this the same Searle who proposed the "Chinese Room" analogy for computerized intelligence? that struck me as quite dishonest, or at least disingenuous. a ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V8 #260 *******************************