From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V8 #239 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Thursday, July 8 1999 Volume 08 : Number 239 Today's Subjects: ----------------- absence of RH on XRT [DDerosa5@aol.com] basingstoke ["jbranscombe@compuserve.com" ] NASA Clapping chorus [hal brandt ] random thoughts [Chris Franz ] Fw: 11-6 show in seattle ["Livia" ] Re: behind by thirty-three {yes - robyn relevance ;-} ["Livia" ] http://158.72.105.122/gh/ephemera/Default.htm ["Livia" ] eb all over the world [Capitalism Blows ] Typographical error [Eddie Tews ] Re: Fw: TALKING DOG [Capitalism Blows ] Eb all over the world (except on the Internet) [gondola@deltanet.com] Re: eb all over the world ["Livia" ] Re: 'Bots [Livia ] Re: Eb all over the world (except on the Internet) ["Livia" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 18:38:40 EDT From: DDerosa5@aol.com Subject: absence of RH on XRT well, it's official that Robyn will NOT be in-studio on XRT, and they claim they haven't gotten the album yet. Or a single (by the way, which will be the single? One can't guess simply by which has the most "production"). I pointed out that by the time the album comes out to the public, Robyn will be gone from Chicago. The intern to whom I was talking said "oh well." they did seem open to mentioning that Storefront will be playing, which should at least help Chill fegs come see the movie. I wonder if anyone who comes to the movie will not be feg to some degree--does J. Demme have a rabid fanlist who will come see his movies no matter what? I guess they'd be interesting to meet, so long as I don't have to discuss "Phila davedelphia." ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 18:51:39 -0400 From: "jbranscombe@compuserve.com" Subject: basingstoke Not meaning to boast but not only do I live on the Waterloo to Reading line, but also half way between Teddington and Twickenham of Trams Of Old London notoriety. I must add, of course, that these places are just as dull as some of the stops on Route 66: but that doesn't stop Brits thinking that San Bernadino sounds dead glamorous, or indeed, some Americans perhaps thinking that Basingstoke has a certain allure. jmbc. catching the 9:20 from Reading to Waterloo tomorrow morning ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Jul 1999 17:11:01 -0600 From: hal brandt Subject: NASA Clapping chorus DDerosa5@aol.com wrote: > NASA Clapping totally rocks, though I still don't > understand the chorus. Just imagine the NASA control room at the end of Apollo 13 (or after any other splashdown/shuttle landing/takeoff.) Lots of high-fives and clapping. The chorus intends to evoke that image, I do believe. /hal movie recommendation: Buena Vista Social Club ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 16:29:45 -0700 From: Chris Franz Subject: random thoughts A couple of musings as I watch the blimps fly by... The outtakes album is supposed to be available at shows this fall. Will it be in time for MABD?? JfS is just *great*. Having heard so many of the songs live, I had wondered how they would work in the studio (I've hardly heard any of these songs with percussion before), and it all came off really well. Viva Sea-Tac, Elizabeth Jade, and NASA Clapping are good rocking numbers, I Feel Beautiful, Sweet Mouth, and Dark Princess are some of the most sincere love songs he's ever written. Antwoman, which has been played with loud drums before in LA, is a bit more subdued on the album and maybe even more effective. I agree with whoever said that Sally Was A Legend sounds like the most likely single. Not that Robyn seems too interested in putting out singles recently. I was noticing that there were promo singles for B. Queen, Alright Yeah, Yip, Driving Aloud, Ultra-Unbelievable Love, and Oceanside, but the only album track that has had a non-promo single pressed up since the QE album is So You Think You're In Love. JfS is clearly much more radio-friendly than ME, but will Robyn's reluctance to push songs as singles cut down on its chances for airplay? I rather hope not. I suspect that a lack of radio-friendly singles doomed ME's chances for great commercial success, and I'd rather not see the same fate befall the new album. And, with the announcement of the outtakes album, have we effectively seen the end of Robyn Hitchcock b-sides? I guess we can't complain. Someone said that the album has a live-in-studio sound to it, which is true to an extent. You hear all the timing chants, the vocal cues for the ends of songs, and so on. But there are a bunch of more subtle things that were added to the mix that really have an impact on the result. The piano is a big part of what makes this version of Guildford worthwhile, and also adds a bit of wonder to the title track. The (what is that thing, a hammer dulcimer or something?) in the bridge on IFB is a nice effect and very much a Jon Brion touch. I wonder just how many instruments Jon himself plays on this record. Off to listen to it again, - - Chris ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 16:50:05 -0700 From: "Livia" Subject: Fw: 11-6 show in seattle picking up some copper from among the debris in my previous feg folder whilst looking for someone to potentially apologize to... > From: Jabbertalky > To: Livia ; fegmaniax@ecto.org > Subject: Re: 11-6 show in seattle > Date: Thursday, November 07, 1996 11:02 AM > > At 01:43 07.11.96 -0800, Livia wrote: > > >8: is a squiggle that i simply cannot decipher, and i don't remember > >what it was. maybe someone else will > > I'm not familiar with "Is A Squiggle That I Simply Cannot Decipher, And I > Don't Remember What It Was." It must be one of those legendary tracks a la > "Fucked If I Know". that's what i want for my birthday! [7/25, as no doubt everyone and their egyptian sister knows by now]. a special private robyn mix album called "fuck if i know". (and the second disk: "and fucked if i don't".) but of course i'd gladly settle for a b-side single of dark blue energy. - ---------- > >12: one that i know but whose title and exact album placement escape > >me, and i'm feeling too lazy to track it down. the one with "but you're > >not there and, i don't care and, you're not there". > > Isn't this "Autumn Is Your Last Chance"? > > --g but would that be 7, 8, or even 9? (i must still have that tattered envelope itself somewhere, since i'm an inveterate archivist. if not indeed an invertebrate archaeoptera.) > "One can find within music the entire range of > the human soul, from humour and eroticism, to > Salvation itself." > --Mahavishnu John McLaughlin that sounds about right. i just have to know when to turn it off and concentrate on my work. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 16:53:23 -0700 From: "Livia" Subject: Re: behind by thirty-three {yes - robyn relevance ;-} > Well, I've entered my thirty-third year of life ~~ as a bunch of fegs > know ~~ for lovely feg phone calls and emails made my 32nd b-day into an > actual *event.* > > ** Susan ~~ Bay Area Fegs put me on speaker phone like you did at your > Chicago feg-fest ** ~~ awesome ~~ really felt like I was there ~~ minus > the beer of course ;-} > > I am officially behind by 33 feg-digests ~~ and 70 emails ~~ and those > are just to reply to...I've also got tons to write to so many of you. > > Robyn content is as follows ~~ > > Perhaps I wouldn't be asking this question if I could catch up to the > digests, but someone said something to someone, and so on, and so on.... > > ......................{I was fascinated by that shampoo commercial when > I was a kid :-} > ~~ never used that product mind you ~~ gee ~~ this is really how I talk > ~~ a tangent here and tangent there............... tangents are fine, but secants move matters along a lot faster. just like popping a bubble... > Something extra special happened on my b-day. > > A lovely and talented and dear friend sent me an email about "sharing it > with the class." > > I only ask this for I know not if all fegs would want to know...or if > it's even still relevant. > > Someone please let me know... if it was me, i would be dying to know. even if i thought i already knew most of the details (as i sometimes do, though often erroneously), i would still love to see/hear the full performance. > Merci. you sound like a montrealer or something. and i'm still making collages from the city guides et al that i got when there for the GP a few weeks ago. there's one amazing page for a restaurant called "restaurant marche movenpick", with a couple of japanese-looking girl chefs at the top. i can't tell you how much it reminds me of cibo matto, and a bunch of silly chickens pecking at garbanzo beans. though on second thought, i could also see it as a kind of marching-band lesson, if the band was mostly guitarists; and i have a very vague memory of a band with a name somewhat like marching guitarists or guitar orchestra or something. but not the crafty league. agh. that's what i mean. i see so many damn pieces that i never quite know which one fits where. > n.p. one of eddie's tapes ~~ does everyone know how generous this guy > is? i wish someone would send me a really new robyn tape. i have nothing newer than '97. i'd gladly trade one of my many duplicate cds (thrang thrang, loud/proud/heard, third star, etc, all of which quite want to be circulated as widely as possible, and that of course is why i always seem to keep ordering more copies of favorite things i already have. i definitely believe in the DGM way. and rather wonder if robyn and robert know each other at all well.) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Jul 1999 20:38:19 +0000 (GMT) From: Michael Wolfe Subject: 'Bots After reading (and finding myself -- forgive me -- nigh convinced of) the proposition that Livia was an artificial text-generating device that got hooked up to the list somehow, I got to thinking further along those lines. Who else among us might be a 'bot? Who might be easily replaced with a 'bot most effectively and/or entertainingly? I decided that it would be best for all concerned if I didn't suggest anyone's name in particular. Nevertheless, I would not be surprised to hear that I fail the Turing test in some of your eyes. Let me know if you need some further proof of my fleshly manifestation. - -Michael Wolfe ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 17:05:35 -0700 From: "Livia" Subject: http://158.72.105.122/gh/ephemera/Default.htm fuck, they all appeal to me. if only i wasn't so lazy and preoccupied and eternally frugal. but speaking of the bottom of the bowl, my father used to eat alpen, though he always preferred familia. and i don't even like those shredded wheat roll things here, much less a monster hay-bale of tasteless bran like weetabix. so what better thing to do with a box of it than use it as a backdrop for silliness and feed the stuff inside to the birds? dare i ask who LJ is? moving back up, i think the "uptown" picture is kind of cute, though i'd want to wash the slicky stuff out of his hair if i were behind his scenes. but i'd rather have the disk than the cover, because i could easily make my own cover via any number of methods (photoshop for starters, or maybe just scissors and paste), but i doubt i could coax a homemade bootleg one-off from someone i've never even met, or indeed spoken to at all, unless you count intense stares and occasional over-excited cheers from the second row. mind you, i'd certainly be willing to try. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 20:31:34 -0500 From: steve Subject: A child was graphically incinerated by igniting his anal wind... (NR) An eagle-eyed Loud Family lister spotted a nifty South Park review at the below site, which I feel duty bound to pass along. - - Steve www.capalert.com/capreports _______________ We're all Jesus, Buddha, and the Wizard of Oz! - Andy Partridge ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 09:47:56 -0700 From: "Marc Holden" Subject: Body on the beach Hey woj-- Thanks for the follow-up. I was really interested in hearing a bit more about this one. When I was a kid, 8-ish, my parents took me to Charleston, S.C. One morning we were walking on the beach, when I noticed that someone was laying on the beach, just in the edge of the water--they were not there a few minutes earlier. When I got closer, I realized he naked and dead. He had just washed up. It was less than half an hour before the coroner's office had an ambulance there to retreive the body. It was the only corpse I've ever found (I did find a man who had torn his jugular vein open on a short fence, blood gushing in two-foot spurts about once a second; but since he might have survived, that's another story). Later, Marc n.p.--Frank Zappa--200 Motels (discs 1&2), Kinks in Sweden (EP), Bob Dylan--Bringing It All Back Home, Neutral Milk Hotel--On Avery Island (all in randomonium) _________________________________________________________________________ ____ MC 900 Ft Russ Reynolds rapped: >Been out of town for a few days and am catching up now. I forget when Viv >is supposed to interview RH but here's a question for: A few years >ago--about the time of Y&O I believe--reports circulated that Robyn had >found a body on a beach. Details were pretty much limited to these facts:=20 >Robyn found a body on a beach. an article about this appeared in an whfs newsletter which was going to be reprinted in the last issue of positive vibrations, but, so far, has only appeared on the web: . not many more details, but at least something... woj ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Jul 1999 20:32:14 PDT From: Capitalism Blows Subject: eb all over the world DECAY/DECOY/DECO are all just fine, in my opinion. apparently robyn escorted peter buck to waterloo sunset. buck was expecting it to be the most beautiful place he'd ever seen, but instead says it was a total dump, and that that somehow made it even more alluring. here's a picture: . that's what i've been wondering. actually, i'm hoping not, because this would mean that robyn must be going to tour the states in the fall (or, that it could only be picked up at uk gigs, while us stateside fegs would be left to purchasing it through the museum...) although there was a video for Driving Aloud. brion's piano is one of the highlights of the largo gigs. can't get enough of it. oh. my. fucking. god. !!!!!! this is quite possibly funnier than the movie itself! no shit! steve, you are my new hero! thank you for passing this along. thank you 666 motherfucking times! <"Let's ([homo]sexual intercourse)"> do they actually say "let's sexual intercourse" in the movie? at first i was thinking that they'd just constructed this sentence wrong, but now i'm thinking maybe not. hmm, better go see the movie again. well, i was gonna see it again anyhow, and tape it this time. there's some robyn interview --i think it's on SPECTRE-- where he says, "we don't know what sex angels are. hopefully both." see, i think if the studio had any sense whatever, they'd put this quote right at the top of all the ads for the movie. anybody ever look up "fart" in the dictionary? we did a long, long time ago, and it said (this is verbatim), "a small explosion of gases between the legs." i can't tell you how much of a kick we got out of that. used to go around quoting it all the time. but "anal wind" is a new one on me, and, i daresay, is the greatest euphemism for "flatulence" ever conceived (even if i'll probably, rather than just speaking it, sing it to the tune of heart's Mistral Wind). damn, i'm going to have to start hanging out with bible-thumpers, just so i can finally have a decent vocabulary! definitely the strongest indictment against this, or, really, any movie, ever. <"Big brother" electronic shock control of a child was used to prevent his use of foul language (each time he cussed he was shocked> i would actually have thought that this would've been the only redeeming part of the movie for them. did he really use several *unknown* foul words? and if they were unknwon, how is it known that they're foul? jeez, i'm gonna have to see the movie again! they picked up so many details that flew right over my head! i feel it my duty to inform them of this typo. yes, i must do so. well factually, he was *kicked* through the window, and only twice. <131 uses of the most foul of the foul words by children 119 uses of the three/four letter word vocabulary by children> know what this really reminds me of? that part in egoyan's The Adjuster (*great* movie, for those that haven't seen it. probably in my top 20 for the decade), where the censors are seeming to be totally getting off on all the "objectionable" material. i'm trying to recall if we ever did this when we were kids. i mean, obviously we did it in "other situations", but i can't say for sure whether we did it in time to music. of course, "body gas", as opposed to just "anal wind", seems to imply belching as well. so that would make it more likely. but i still can't quite remember. i don't understand this. okay, "sex" is a category. fine. no sex in movies. but why the "/homosexuality"? is not homosexual sex also just...sex? they're being unnecessarily repetetive, if you follow me. the girl i work with gave me a tape of a public access show about why one should convert to islam. their description of hell was pretty hilarious. like, you'd only be allowed to drink boiling hot water. or, your food would be spiked with thorns and shit. the implication, i guess, being that it would still *nourish* you. there was a lot of other kind of nonsensical stuff, but made to sound as bad as possible, just to scare people into proclaiming "i believe!" the description of heaven was just weird, too. like, there'd be exceedingly comfortable places to sit. (!) i'm afraid this is flat-out ambiguous. it could mean that their conversation was of homosexual acts with sound effects (during the acts). or it could mean that they were just talking about homosexual acts, with sound effects *during the conversation*. if you catch my meaning. what say we all send them a care package? perhaps a dan bern mix tape? do they grade musical acts? Darwin tried explaining it Darwin did the best he could Evolution: pretty theory But how could Darwin know That aliens came and fucked the monkey? waiting for michal w. to weigh in on South Park, i remain, KEN "283.9 examples of impudence/hate per hour" THE KENSTER _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Jul 1999 20:35:42 PDT From: Eddie Tews Subject: Typographical error Good evening, I wanted to alert you to the fact that in your South Park review appears the following sentence: A man committed suicide by juming out of a window. this was clearly intended to have read "jumping" rather than "juming". also, there appears this sentence: "Let's ([homo]sexual intercourse) at least four times (this is in the enumeration of the movie's drawbacks, not in the review itself, where the quote is also used.) it appears that you have forgotten to place a close-quote after the close-paren. i hope that you can take care of these matters, as they detract from an otherwise scintillating (not to mention groundbreaking) presentation. please keep up the good work, and feel free to communicate any concerns either to myself or to my sensei. Yours in Perpetuity Eddie Tews Redmond, Washington _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Jul 1999 20:46:15 PDT From: Capitalism Blows Subject: Re: Fw: TALKING DOG <"If you're proud of your dog Because he chases sticks (Dan spits this scorningly and laughingly) Gidget grabs the sticks and plays the drums..." The way Dan Bern sings that one just crax me up.> me too! that's totally my favorite line! no, i don't think so. but it's kinda along the same lines. _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 20:55:54 -0800 From: gondola@deltanet.com Subject: Eb all over the world (except on the Internet) At another friend's, checking more email backlog. Blah. I'm still waiting for Comp USA to tell me the new hard-drive order came through. I'm feeling very frustrated and testy. And of course, isolated. I don't really have anything to add to the current dialogue, this time. I still haven't figured out what the heck Livia is talking about, threads about acronyms and capitalization are a little too volatile for a peacenik like me to join, and I apparently remain one of the *last* people who hasn't heard Jewels for Sophia. Oh, the L.A. Times' Robert Hilburn published his midyear top 10 list. Now, Hilburn is probably my #1 least favorite music critic (well, after Bob Lefsetz), but I'll forget this for the time being and smile that RH (that's Robert Hilburn, not Robyn Hitchcock) ranked Mule Variations at #1 and Randy Newman's Bad Love at #3. Just like me and LJ. Heh. (#2 was Moby.) Most of his other entries weren't my bag, however...beyond Paul Westerberg. Eb, creeped out to learn the Feglist has *two* LJs...yipe - ----- Sent using MailStart.com ( http://MailStart.Com/welcome.html ) The FREE way to access your mailbox via any web browser, anywhere! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 21:00:53 -0700 From: "Livia" Subject: Re: eb all over the world > From: S Dwarf > To: fegmaniax@smoe.org > Subject: Re: eb all over the world > Date: Wednesday, July 07, 1999 2:42 AM > > someone sed: > > 2. And what do we do with Invisible Hits, Invisible > > Hitchcock, and Invisible History? They'd all be IH. > > IHs, IHk, & IHy? eyes, ick, and inky! or maybe: tap my rooster if you want to hear his tale ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Jul 1999 00:44:45 +0000 (GMT) From: Livia Subject: Re: 'Bots > From: Michael Wolfe > To: /R=internet/R=smoe.org/U=fegmaniax/FFN=fegmaniax/@mr.nw.kp.org R RU FFN mr/nw/kp R, are you fifi's new northwest keeper? man, i sure hope so. > Subject: 'Bots > Date: Wednesday, July 07, 1999 1:38 PM > > After reading (and finding myself -- forgive me -- nigh convinced > of) the proposition that Livia was an artificial text-generating > device that got hooked up to the list somehow, I got to thinking > further along those lines. Who else among us might be a 'bot? > Who might be easily replaced with a 'bot most effectively and/or > entertainingly? I decided that it would be best for all > concerned if I didn't suggest anyone's name in particular. yeah, i can simulate AI all day long, baby i'll name a name, if someone hands me a hat full of neatly- printed paper strips and a silky blindfold. > Nevertheless, I would not be surprised to hear that I fail the > Turing test in some of your eyes. Let me know if you need some > further proof of my fleshly manifestation. drop the g? if i thought that dimi was really alive after all and that it was a fake obit my father sent a few years ago, i'd be...pleased, but my allegiance wouldn't falter. he stopped being king of my dreams a long time ago. > -Michael Wolfe and a virgin foxx to you, sweetie-pie ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 21:57:11 -0700 From: "Livia" Subject: Re: Eb all over the world (except on the Internet) > I don't really have anything to add to the current dialogue, > this time. I still haven't figured out what the heck Livia is > talking about, threads about acronyms and capitalization are > a little too volatile for a peacenik like me to join, and I apparently > remain one of the *last* people who hasn't heard Jewels for Sophia. > publicity deleted> as if i have. i have fairly clear memories of some of the songs from a concert two years ago, and tuneless lyrics to two of the others. but i do have an advance order in at amazon, so i suppose i can wait another ~2 weeks and keep on with the old-stuff re-appreciation course in the meantime. what next, i wonder? and ignore the acronyms by all means. they're just silly little twisty hide-and-seek games. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Jul 1999 00:03:27 PDT From: Capitalism Blows Subject: Fwd: Re: Typographical error From: "Thomas A. Carder" Reply-To: cap@capalert.com To: Eddie Tews Subject: Re: Typographical error Date: Wed, 07 Jul 1999 23:03:48 +0000 Mr. Tews: "jumimg" Duh. Thank you! I have had the errors corrected. You are certainly welcome to check them out for yourself. And thank you for the supportive comments about this ministry. About five of the comments I have received about our analysis of South Park have been supportive. Someone posted a link to the South Park analysis on their anarchy newsgrouop and we have had more than 60,000 visits and more than 500 emails about the analysis, two or three of them being death threats. It was indeed a breath of fresh air to hear this from you. That you have read the report with such keen attention to detail and have no other points of concern is truly a welcome treat. Please feel free to send any other errors you find to me. Always in Jesus' name. - -- Thomas A. Carder ChildCare Action Project: Christian Analysis of American Culture (CAP) P. O. Box 177, Granbury, TX 76048-0177 A nonprofit Christian Ministry Donations are tax deductible Sponsor inquiries are welcome Email: mailto:cap@capalert.com Website Address: http://www.capalert.com/ - ------- Dedicated to investigating and reporting on the impact of the American culture on the integrity, self respect, and coping skills of youth, and inherently on family values and unity, using the teachings of Jesus as Investigation Standards. - ------- <*}}}>< Eddie Tews wrote: > > Good evening, > I wanted to alert you to the fact that in your South Park review appears the > following sentence: > > A man committed suicide by juming out of a window. > > this was clearly intended to have read "jumping" rather than "juming". > > also, there appears this sentence: > > "Let's ([homo]sexual intercourse) at least four times > > (this is in the enumeration of the movie's drawbacks, not in the review > itself, where the quote is also used.) it appears that you have forgotten > to place a close-quote after the close-paren. > > i hope that you can take care of these matters, as they detract from an > otherwise scintillating (not to mention groundbreaking) presentation. > please keep up the good work, and feel free to communicate any concerns > either to myself or to my sensei. > > Yours in Perpetuity > Eddie Tews > Redmond, Washington > > _______________________________________________________________ > Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. 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