From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V8 #238 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Wednesday, July 7 1999 Volume 08 : Number 238 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Stop of the pops ["Sedgwick, Gary" ] Re: acronyms [Stewart Russell 3295 Analyst_Programmer ] Re: Jewels For Sophia [Stewart Russell 3295 Analyst_Programmer ] RE: Basingstoke [Michael R Godwin ] Fwd: Momus song (NR) [steve ] Any fegs in Cincinatti area? [Rob Gronotte ] Re: Marx is so dreamy, you know? That beard, those revolutionary notions... ["Jason R. Thornton" ] Re: 69 [Aaron Mandel ] Re: Momus song and websurf music [overbury@cn.ca] [none] [The Great Quail ] Re: acronyms [michelle wiener ] RE: acronyms ["Thomas, Ferris" ] RE: acronyms ["Jason R. Thornton" ] Re: Marx is so dreamy, you know? That beard, those revolutionary notions... [The Great Quail ] Re: acronyms [MARKEEFE@aol.com] Re: Fwd: Momus song (NR) [ultraconformist@mail.weboffices.com] Re: Plant rock [MARKEEFE@aol.com] Re: update on dates/Bumber Q. [MARKEEFE@aol.com] Re: eb all over the world ["Livia" ] Upright Citizens' Cryptonomicon Brigade (longish, RH at end) [DDerosa5@ao] Re: Plant rock [Mark_Gloster@3com.com] Re: acronyms ["Livia" ] behind by thirty-three {yes - robyn relevance ;-} [**twofangs** {randi} ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 11:35:58 +0100 From: "Sedgwick, Gary" Subject: Stop of the pops >>on Elizabeth Jade, is it >>- --"before i find myself a pauper" or "before i find myself a pauper"? > >ya know what--the more I hear it the more it sounds like "Papa". This song >absolutely shreds, by the way. More & more I find myself going directly to >that track and cranking it up until drops of blood start to trickle out my >ears. Then I turn it up one louder. I reckon "popa" i.e. meaning father. Rhymes with stopper. And makes sense if a stopper is a contraceptive. I've just a mini Cadbury's Wispa Gold, and the "Best Before" box on the wrapper had only "L9118D3" printed in it. I wonder what calendar system they're using at Cadbury? Gary PS - at last, UK tour dates!!! ____________________________________________________ Gary Sedgwick MKIRisk Midas-Kapiti International 1 St. George's Road Tel: +44 (208) 879 1188 Wimbledon Fax: +44 (208) 944 7963 London Direct: +44 (208) 486 1662 SW19 4DR Email: sedgwicg@midas-kapiti.com UK ____________________________________________________ (The views and opinions expressed in this email message are the sender's own, and do not necessarily represent the view and opinions of Midas-Kapiti International Ltd. This message and/or any attached documents may contain Privileged and Confidential Information and should only be read by those persons to whom this message is addressed.) .:. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 12:34:40 +0100 (BST) From: Stewart Russell 3295 Analyst_Programmer Subject: Re: acronyms >>>>> "Livia" == Livia writes: Livia> bUt seriously, there's been a filter in citadel Livia> foralmostever that puts the user's text into alternately Livia> upper/lower. it's called PsYcHo ChIcKeN. it's known as 'studlycaps' round these parts... - -- Stewart C. Russell Analyst Programmer, Dictionary Division stewart@ref.collins.co.uk HarperCollins Publishers use Disclaimer; my $opinion; Glasgow, Scotland ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Jul 1999 04:56:13 PDT From: Ghost Surfer Subject: Basingstoke.........! The reason for the Basingstoke or Reading is that RH was obviously getting the train from Waterloo where nearly every train goes to Basingstoke and quite a few go to Reading. The video for IODOT was shot on the main line from Waterloo and goes past the Wimbledon train repair depot (the only landmark that i recognise). I think the opening shots on the vid were shot at Vauxhall, but i may be mistaken. You get trains to the IOW from Waterloo as well as to Winchester (stopping at Basingstoke) so RH must have spent a great deal of time at Waterloo where the tannoy always seems to be mentioning the B word and often throws in the R as well. As for JFS. Is it just me or is the running order wrong? Shouldn't it end with Viva Sea-Tac? Certainly it and Cheese Alarm shouldn't be together, sounds a bit cabaret. My preffered order would be with JFS 2nd then Cheese Alarm, leaving out Sea-Tac till the last track. That way it'd start with RH getting ready to go and end with him saying that it should stop now. Just a suggestion, it's too late now anyway. And another thing. Album out early september for us Brits as RH will be out of the country until Sept, so he can't do any promo for it (?). GLR played Sweet Mouth the other day and announced the new month of release. - ----------------************************************************------------ "There are times when i can't think about the future, when all my days seem so dark and life seems cruel" - Mojave 3 & "Make a moment last forever, gaze across the ocean to the sun" - Unknown !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 13:14:07 +0100 (BST) From: Stewart Russell 3295 Analyst_Programmer Subject: Re: Jewels For Sophia >>>>> "db" == D B writes: db> Dear Everybuddy: Wow...!!! I have to proclaim as loudly as db> ever I can that Jewels for Sophia was well worth the db> wait. wait? you don't know the meaning of the word. Some of us won't see it until September. Late UK releases annoy me almost as much as vinyl-only releases... - -- Stewart C. Russell Analyst Programmer, Dictionary Division stewart@ref.collins.co.uk HarperCollins Publishers use Disclaimer; my $opinion; Glasgow, Scotland ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 08:54:14 -0400 (EDT) From: Natalie Jacobs Subject: Merge records comp. >I think I read somewhere that it includes the live "Engine" cut that was >the B-side to the Blue Rose "Holland" 7". Yes, it does. I've heard part of the song - typical lugubrious NMH fodder, medium tempo, with horns, of course. I think Eb dismissed it, but what does he know? n. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 14:17:17 +0100 (BST) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: RE: Basingstoke > >>I was struck by the juxtaposition of heaven and Basingstoke, and I > >>wondered whether this article influenced the line "I dream of eternity or > >>Basingstoke or Reading". Coincidence? I think not. On Tue, 6 Jul 1999, tanter wrote: > Uh, well, from Winchester, the next main train stop is Basingstoke and then > Reading. I think he's just thinking about taking the train from Winchester to > Cambridge.... So is 'eternity' Cambridge or is it Winchester? Incidentally, the only direct line to Cambridge from the West was the Oxford, Worcester and Wolverhampton (aka 'The Old Worse and Worse'), long since closed. Nowadays you have to get off at Paddington and go round the Circle (ha ha) to Kings Cross (or L'pool St?) to get a train to Cambridge. - MRG PS And why should 'often' have a cap.? It's only an adverb. My vote goes to IoDoT. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 08:48:26 -0500 From: steve Subject: Fwd: Momus song (NR) From a P1 list, a reason to buy the new Momus? - ---------------- Begin Forwarded Message ---------------- On an unrelated note, I recently came across the following amusing song about the iMac and its owner (a Japanese girl named Mai Noda), written by one of my favorite artists, Momus. http://www.demon.co.uk/momus/starstotal.html#mainoda "Mai Noda" I am Mai Noda's strawberry iMac Switch on my screen A strawberry coloured Apple computer Also in green I sit in the gloom of this little room Emitting a luminous hum Deep in my pink Translucent sleep Waiting for Mai to come home This is our world, iMac and Mai Here in our room Body and mind and industrial design Under the moon Translucent and pink I sit on the table Designed by the Englishman Ive A few sparks of static make my screen crackle As I come alive I rise from my deep translucent sleep Mai sits there reading a book Mai takes a bath And when she's clean Mai reads Queneau, Bataille and Celine This is our world, iMac and Mai Here in our room One human being and her machine Together alone Bare on her flat tatami mat Mai turns the page Lost in her dream Lithe as a cat With thoughts that are strange Mai turns to me And I see Her face in the frame of my screen She looks like a goldfish Voluptuous and naked Golden and green This is our world, iMac and Mai Here in our room The crackling of Bebop on chunky black vinyl A modem negotiates the line Her favourite PostPet, a small yellow rabbit Brings Mai her mail Outside the rain, the sweet summer rain Falls on the wall This is our world, iMac and Mai Here in our room One human being and her machine Under the moon - --from Momus' forthcoming album *Stars Forever*, to be released on Aug 24th. - ----------------- End Forwarded Message ----------------- _______________ We're all Jesus, Buddha, and the Wizard of Oz! - Andy Partridge ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 10:21:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Rob Gronotte Subject: Any fegs in Cincinatti area? I'll be passing through town and want to go to the show at Bogart's (Robyn, Flaming Lips, etc.) on July 14th. Don't want to risk getting sold out or paying a huge service charge though. Could anyone who lives nearby possibly get me an advance ticket from the club? I could repay you by giving you a copy of the show, as I plan to tape it. By the way, I could do the reverse (purchase a no-fee advance ticket) for any out-of-towners who want to come to the Washington, DC, show. Rob Why don't you come up and surf me sometime? --> http://www.patriot.net/users/rob ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Jul 1999 08:57:04 -0700 From: "Jason R. Thornton" Subject: Re: Marx is so dreamy, you know? That beard, those revolutionary notions... At 06:32 PM 7/6/99 -0700, Livia wrote: >so: who am i? i ask that in all seriousness, because i am >so full of real and imaginary clues and so busy telling other >people who they are and getting compliments and amusement >and tricks and imaginary kisses in return that i really don't >know. though i do know what robert and toyah and maybe >even robyn think, at least now and then. "Toyah?" Quail? >playing next/downstairs: phoenix. QUAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIL!!!!!!! - --JT ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Jul 1999 08:55:53 -0700 From: "Jason R. Thornton" Subject: Re: acronyms At 05:36 PM 7/6/99 -0700, Joel Mullins wrote: >1. I've been wondering why we're referring to Jewels for Sophia as JfS. Actually, I'm not sure if "JfS" should qualify for acronymhood. At least, I haven't a fucking clue how to pronounce jfs. "Jiffs?" - --JT ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 12:02:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Aaron Mandel Subject: Re: 69 On Tue, 6 Jul 1999 MARKEEFE@aol.com wrote: > Well, you Magnetic Fields fans out there will be pleased and/or > appalled to know that it's actually going to be 3 CDs! I guess > they'll be sold separately or as a 3-CD set. Out September 7: MRG166 The Magnetic Fields 69 Love Songs: Volume 1 [cd #1] MRG167 The Magnetic Fields 69 Love Songs: Volume 2 [cd #2] MRG168 The Magnetic Fields 69 Love Songs: Volume 3 [cd #3] MRG169 The Magnetic Fields 69 Love Songs [3-cd box - limited edition] there's also a new version of an old Magnetic Fields song on the Oh, Merge compilation. Eb mentioned being unimpressed with the Neutral Milk Hotel song, and i felt the same way about almost the whole thing. i wouldn't buy it just to hear Susan Anway singing "Take Ecstasy With Me". a ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 12:44:34 +0000 From: overbury@cn.ca Subject: Re: Momus song and websurf music Steve wrote: > >From a P1 list, a reason to buy the new Momus? [Momus song about someone and her iMac snipped] ... which connected with something I've been mulling over lately -- why is it that although computers have become such a big part of the lives of so many people, they aren't mentioned in songs much? There was car and surf music in the early '60's. Why is there no websurf music? OK Computer, in spite of the title, doesn't really feature computers prominently. We make art with them; start romances, friendships and rivalries with them; work and play with them. They're all over pop culture, books and in movies, but where are they in music? Their relative absence is conspicuous. Viva Sea-tac, - -- Ross Overbury Montreal, Quebec, Canada ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 12:57:24 -0400 From: The Great Quail Subject: [none] >>>on Elizabeth Jade, is it >>>- --"before i find myself a pauper" or "before i find myself a >pauper"? >I reckon "popa" i.e. meaning father. Rhymes with stopper. And makes >sense if a stopper is a contraceptive. Hmmm . . . I thought it was "popper," as in the drug amyl nitrate, which is inhaled quickly for a spurt of euphoria, often during sex. Of course, Robyn rarely makes any drug references; but then again, this song is filled with weird sexual symbolism, so. . . . Being a chemist in a former life, I am prone to hearing this sort of thing where there is no reason. For instance, I'm sure that Michael Stipe sings "50 milliliters of deionized 1,3,7-trimethlyxanthine" in "End of the World as We Know It," but most people claim the *actual* lyric is "Leonard Bernstein." So I doubt my "popper" version is accurate, but I do toss the hat into the ring. - --qUail +---------+---------+---------+---------+---------+---------+---------+ The Great Quail, K.S.C. (riverrun Discordian Society, Kibroth-hattaavah Branch) For fun with postmodern literature, New York vampires, and Fegmania, visit Sarnath: http://www.rpg.net/quail "The people asked, and he brought quails, and satisfied them with the bread of heaven." --Psalms 105:40 (Also see Exodus 16:13 and Numbers 11:31-34 for more starry wisdom) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Jul 1999 14:35:56 -0400 From: michelle wiener Subject: Re: acronyms Jason R. Thornton wrote: > At 05:36 PM 7/6/99 -0700, Joel Mullins wrote: > > >1. I've been wondering why we're referring to Jewels for Sophia as JfS. > > Actually, I'm not sure if "JfS" should qualify for acronymhood. At least, > I haven't a fucking clue how to pronounce jfs. "Jiffs?" i submit that the J be pronounced "zh." m ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 14:44:57 -0400 From: "Thomas, Ferris" Subject: RE: acronyms I thought the J was silent. > -----Original Message----- > From: michelle wiener [mailto:wienermh@muohio.edu] > Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 1999 2:36 PM > To: fegmaniax@smoe.org > Subject: Re: acronyms > > > > > Jason R. Thornton wrote: > > > At 05:36 PM 7/6/99 -0700, Joel Mullins wrote: > > > > >1. I've been wondering why we're referring to Jewels for > Sophia as JfS. > > > > Actually, I'm not sure if "JfS" should qualify for > acronymhood. At least, > > I haven't a fucking clue how to pronounce jfs. "Jiffs?" > > i submit that the J be pronounced "zh." > > m > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Jul 1999 11:56:44 -0700 From: "Jason R. Thornton" Subject: RE: acronyms So "JfS" would be pronounced "silent-fiss?" At 02:44 PM 7/7/99 -0400, Thomas, Ferris wrote: >I thought the J was silent. > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: michelle wiener [mailto:wienermh@muohio.edu] >> Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 1999 2:36 PM >> To: fegmaniax@smoe.org >> Subject: Re: acronyms >> >> >> >> >> Jason R. Thornton wrote: >> >> > At 05:36 PM 7/6/99 -0700, Joel Mullins wrote: >> > >> > >1. I've been wondering why we're referring to Jewels for >> Sophia as JfS. >> > >> > Actually, I'm not sure if "JfS" should qualify for >> acronymhood. At least, >> > I haven't a fucking clue how to pronounce jfs. "Jiffs?" >> >> i submit that the J be pronounced "zh." >> >> m >> >> > - --JT ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 13:26:38 -0400 From: The Great Quail Subject: Re: Marx is so dreamy, you know? That beard, those revolutionary notions... Jason panics: >>though i do know what robert and toyah and maybe >>even robyn think, at least now and then. > >"Toyah?" Quail? > >>playing next/downstairs: phoenix. > >QUAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIL!!!!!!! Jason, it's ok. I bought "Phoenix" based on Livia's recommendation; that's why I asked you about it offlist. There is no net of paranoia closing in on you. . . . and I am certainly not the dada performance artist who programmed the LI-VI@ pseudo-AI software package that has recently been infiltrating the list with lower cased commentaries about grapes and bees. But of course, there is the fact that Capuchin and Vivian have been awfully silent lately . . . let's see, a computer expert and a "quirky" actress with a name awfully close to LIVIA. . . . This might bear further investigation. . . . - --a suddenly nervous Quail ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The Great Quail, Keeper of the Libyrinth: http://www.rpg.net/quail/libyrinth The places I took him! I tried hard to tell Young Conrad Cornelius o'Donald o'Dell A few brand-new wonderful words he might spell. I led him around and I tried hard to show There are things beyond Z that most people don't know. I took him past Zebra. As far as I could. And I think, perhaps, maybe I did him some good... Because finally he said: "This is really great stuff! And I guess the old alphabet ISN'T enough!" --Dr. Seuss, "On Beyond Zebra" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 14:19:39 -0600 From: ultraconformist@mail.weboffices.com Subject: Re: eb all over the world >yet more evidence that the idea of using acronyms to abbreviate album names >was sent to us by satan. Well, please ask the following of whoever the good guys are: Would you prefer that I write Gra/oo/vy Deco/a/oy? Love on ya, Susan ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Jul 1999 14:44:12 -0500 From: tanter Subject: RE: Basingstoke >===== Original Message From Michael R Godwin > >So is 'eternity' Cambridge or is it Winchester? Well, if it's a positive thing, maybe Winchester, since he's from there, his family's there, etc. Or, if he's thinking about his secondary school days, Winchester could be a negative and Cambridge is where his music really got started, hence it's a negative. RAndi will have to ask him! Marcy L. Tanter Assistant Professor of English Tarleton State University Stephenville, TX 76401 254-968-9892 (9039 to leave a message) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 15:55:50 EDT From: MARKEEFE@aol.com Subject: Re: acronyms In a message dated 7/6/99 6:26:11 PM Pacific Daylight Time, skmull@swbell.net writes: << 1. I've been wondering why we're referring to Jewels for Sophia as JfS. I'm assuming that it's because "for" is a minor word that doesn't need to be capitalized. But if that is the case, then why do we say IODOT? Shouldn't it be IODoT? Not that it matters much, but this has been on my mind lately. >> I always try to be accurate about minor/major words in abbreviations of album titles, but, I gotta admit, IODOT just looks cooler than IODoT. That's the only rationale I can think of. << 2. And what do we do with Invisible Hits, Invisible Hitchcock, and Invisible History? They'd all be IH. >> Good point, Joel. Well, if we need to adopt official abbreviations for these, maybe can go with shorthands like I.Hits, I.Hitch, and I.History (I was thinking of maybe I.Hist, but that's just too darn close to I.Hits!). Certainly, we should do whatever we can to resolve this problem as quickly as possible :-) - ------Michael K., Invisible Hipster (I.Hip) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 14:33:47 -0600 From: ultraconformist@mail.weboffices.com Subject: Re: Fwd: Momus song (NR) >From a P1 list, a reason to buy the new Momus? > > >---------------- Begin Forwarded Message ---------------- > >On an unrelated note, I recently came across the following amusing song >about the iMac and its owner (a Japanese girl named Mai Noda), written by >one of my favorite artists, Momus. Now I'm really looking forward to this thing. This forthcoming album is a series of commissioned song portraits. Miss Noda was one of the people who paid for a portrait- the people who commissioned one "sat" by answering questionnaires about themselves and including whatever special details about themselves they thought were important. I wish now that I'd figured out a way to scrounge up the thousand bucks for one, because looking at the lyrics for the portraits I think this album is going to be something really special. Watching Eddie cringe, Susan ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 15:59:28 EDT From: MARKEEFE@aol.com Subject: Re: Plant rock In a message dated 7/6/99 6:26:21 PM Pacific Daylight Time, skmull@swbell.net writes: << This lady in Denver "systematically exposed plants to rock music and found, in three separate experiments, that exposure to acid rock and Led Zeppelin caused a variety of plants to be stunted, damaged, or dead within a month." >> And, oppositely-like, Mozart and Bach have apparently been shown to work like Miracle Grow on our green, chloro-filled friends. - ------Michael K., np Robert Wyatt and watching the lone Discover Music potted plant turn brown and droopy. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 16:04:11 EDT From: MARKEEFE@aol.com Subject: Re: update on dates/Bumber Q. In a message dated 7/6/99 6:33:45 PM Pacific Daylight Time, duplanet@global2000.net writes: << ROBYN HITCHCOCK TOUR DATES United States "Music Against Brain Degeneration" Tour with Flaming Lips and Sebadoh [snip] September 6: Bumpershoot Festival, Seattle, WA >> So, was this meant to be a separate section, or is Robyn's appearance at Bumberbutt also going to be part of the MABD (Mothers Against Bob Dylan?!) tour? I'm hoping it'll be solo, just to get a little more variety out of my Robyn viewings this year. - ------Michael K. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 13:19:00 -0700 From: "Livia" Subject: Re: eb all over the world > >yet more evidence that the idea of using acronyms to abbreviate > >album names was sent to us by satan. > > Well, please ask the following of whoever the good guys are: > > Would you prefer that I write Gra/oo/vy Deco/a/oy? groovy decay is quite a bit sexier than, say, gravy decorum. the only drawback is that somewhat dated 70s slag, but what the hay, it might well be due for a return to coooooolness. and if it was all greek to me, i might just say groovy decay and make it into a tasty på =>> Fæ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 16:38:51 EDT From: DDerosa5@aol.com Subject: Upright Citizens' Cryptonomicon Brigade (longish, RH at end) Quail opined: does anyone else but me think "The Upright Citizen's Brigade" is the funniest fucking thing on TV? YES! well, when I get to see it anyway. I like the ends, when they are dealing with real people out in the world, with the camera usually out of the way, totally fucking with people, unlike say Michael Moore. They used to do that schtick here in Chicago. One time I, as an audience member, ended up on stage, and thanks to a questionnaire I had filled out at the door, they had my dad on the phone (really!) telling an embarrassing story about me; then I had to roleplay with Matt Besser, with him as me and me as my Dad. It was a takeoff on infomercials and self help gurus, and ended up with the cast and audience outside, someone attempting to kill herself (a plant, I think), and the cops showing up. Cool. cool, and hard to keep up. Is the show that good regularly? I've only seen it like four times... as for Cryptonomicon: yeah, most of Dave Librik's comments are somewhat fair, but for me it was thought-provoking summer reading. I was making fun of the Pynchon comparison, and don't actually think Clavell belongs in the libyrinth either. I can almost see Stephenson, like JC, hiring a staff to do research for him to drop into his very long asides that usually don't move the story forward. But they're usually fun. And yes, his politics are way confused, and the ending was lame (though I liked most of the last 200 pages...) It's intelligent adventure writing, not real futurism, and I take his libertarian ideals as less pushy than say RAWilson's. In any case, if a data haven is the end of democracy, that must be becuase we as citizens have lost control over corporations, hmmm? Technology is not destiny, methinks, though increasingly it could be. Hell, Stephenson's book Zodiac is a parody of Greenpeace, where I work, and it's funny in there the things he gets right, the major things he gets wrong, and what he chooses to exaggerate for story's sake. His explanation of toxic chemicals is not as convincing as his strategy for taking a bike across a crowded multilane road, same as his funny example in Crypt... of divvying up heirlooms by plotting them on a graph is better than his attempts to take people through higher math functions. I guess all I'm saying is, his stuff ain't litter-ature, but his characters are smart. Contrast it, perhaps, to South Park, where the characters are dumb, but perhaps have better points to make. Both aren't for everyone, though neither is particularly complicated (except for the perl script in NS, etc.) Truly great art is accessible to everyone who cares. Which, surprisingly enough, brings me to Jewels for Sophia, which I've listened to five times, and love love LOVE, though as an album it does not hold together for me like Eye or other concept albums. It's just fun, and catchy, and truly radio friendly. In some ways, listening to a real person working things out is a true bit of Art. And NASA Clapping totally rocks, though I still don't understand the chorus. Dave Speaking of friendly radio, I did get a call from WXRT today, which simply told me that they "will consider playing it when it comes out in stores", which I find truly odd since they must've gotten an advance, and in the past have played early singles. I still want to find out if they will have Robyn in studio, or will talk up the Storefront showings. Lessee if they'll call me back twice... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 13:45:23 -0700 From: Mark_Gloster@3com.com Subject: Re: Plant rock << This lady in Denver "systematically exposed plants to rock music and found, in three separate experiments, that exposure to acid rock and Led Zeppelin caused a variety of plants to be stunted, damaged, or dead within a month." >> > And, oppositely-like, Mozart and Bach have apparently been shown to work >like Miracle Grow on our green, chloro-filled friends. I subjected some plants to _Partial Rapture Theory_ for almost one solid week a year or two ago. They have been making carrots non-stop since. Nevermind the fact that these plants were not, in fact, carrot plants. They were actually rare orchids and common milkweed. I now must purchase a pygmie goat or something to avoid being overrun by the "orange menace." Happies, - -Markg "You all kinda smell like flowers. Don't forget to brush your teeth." - -Mr. Hanky ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 13:51:23 -0700 From: "Livia" Subject: Re: acronyms > From: michelle wiener > To: fegmaniax@smoe.org > Subject: Re: acronyms > Date: Wednesday, July 07, 1999 11:35 AM > > Jason R. Thornton wrote: > > > At 05:36 PM 7/6/99 -0700, Joel Mullins wrote: > > > > >1. I've been wondering why we're referring to Jewels for Sophia as JfS. > > > > Actually, I'm not sure if "JfS" should qualify for acronymhood. At least, > > I haven't a fucking clue how to pronounce jfs. "Jiffs?" > > i submit that the J be pronounced "zh." > > m zh fi s? jiffy S sounds awfully silly. or flatten the phi and make it jeefs. but that's a bit woosterish for my tastes. hmm. ooh, how about jufes, as in juves and that naughty little leppo-boy. [and f to v is nothing at all for even a minor linguist.] salacious as ever, > lyv ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Jul 1999 17:54:07 -0400 From: **twofangs** {randi} Subject: behind by thirty-three {yes - robyn relevance ;-} Hi, Well, I've entered my thirty-third year of life ~~ as a bunch of fegs know ~~ for lovely feg phone calls and emails made my 32nd b-day into an actual *event.* ** Susan ~~ Bay Area Fegs put me on speaker phone like you did at your Chicago feg-fest ** ~~ awesome ~~ really felt like I was there ~~ minus the beer of course ;-} I am officially behind by 33 feg-digests ~~ and 70 emails ~~ and those are just to reply to...I've also got tons to write to so many of you. Robyn content is as follows ~~ Perhaps I wouldn't be asking this question if I could catch up to the digests, but someone said something to someone, and so on, and so on.... ......................{I was fascinated by that shampoo commercial when I was a kid :-} ~~ never used that product mind you ~~ gee ~~ this is really how I talk ~~ a tangent here and tangent there............... Okay. Something extra special happened on my b-day. A lovely and talented and dear friend sent me an email about "sharing it with the class." I only ask this for I know not if all fegs would want to know...or if it's even still relevant. Someone please let me know... Merci. still lovin' the globe where fegs are conceived and raised.... fading back into feg-dig #200... - I promise I'll catch up... Randi n.p. one of eddie's tapes ~~ does everyone know how generous this guy is? ********************************************* Ms. Randi L. Spiegel Associate Producer / Director The Revolver Film Company / The Partners Film Company 200 Balliol Suite 1603 Toronto, Ontario, Canada {416} 440-1309 ********************************************* ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V8 #238 *******************************