From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V8 #237 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Wednesday, July 7 1999 Volume 08 : Number 237 Today's Subjects: ----------------- update on dates [duplanet@global2000.net] Re: Marx is so dreamy, you know? That beard, those revolutionary notions... ["Livia" ] Basingstoke [digja611@student.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan)] Re: VA with NMH / More OAR ["Michael R. Runion" ] Re: ENO ["Russ Reynolds" ] Re: More Oar ["Russ Reynolds" ] Re: acronyms ["Russ Reynolds" ] Re: If it's not too late [four episode lesbian ] Re: more on south park [four episode lesbian ] Re: Jewels For Sophia [D B ] RE: Basingstoke [tanter ] Re: Snowcrashnomicon Age [David Librik ] eb all over the world [Capitalism Blows ] Re: It seems I owe you an apology ["Livia" ] Re: (no subject) [Stewart Russell 3295 Analyst_Programmer ] Re: eb all over the world ["Livia" ] Re: eb all over the world [S Dwarf ] Re: ENO ["Livia" ] Re: acronyms ["Livia" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1999 21:38:13 +0100 From: duplanet@global2000.net Subject: update on dates ROBYN HITCHCOCK TOUR DATES United States "Music Against Brain Degeneration" Tour with Flaming Lips and Sebadoh July 13: Pontiac, MI - Karma July 14: Cincinnati, OH - Bogart's July 5: Columbus, OH - Newport Music Hall July 16: Pontiac, MI - Clutch Cargo's July 17: Chicago, IL - Metro July 18: Chicago, IL - Metro July 19: Minneapolis, MN - First Avenue July 20: Minneapolis, MN - First Avenue July 23: Seatle, WA - Showbox July 24: Seattle, WA - Showbox July 25: Portland, OR - Roseland Theater July 27: San Francisco, CA - The Fillmore July 28: San Francisco, CA - The Fillmore July 29: Santa Cruz, CA - Palookaville July 30: Las Vegas, NV - The Joint July 31 (TENTATIVE): Pomona, CA - Glass House Aug 1: Los Angeles, CA - The Palace Aug 3: Denver, CO - Ogden Theatre Aug 5: Kansas City, MO - TBA Aug 6: Oklahoma City, OK - Will Rogers Theatre Aug 7: Austin, TX - Stubb's Bar-B-Q Aug 8: Dallas, TX - Deep Ellurn Live Aug 10: Memphis, TN - New Daisy Theatre Aug 11: Atlanta, GA - The Masquerade Aug 12: Carrboro, NC - Cat's Cradle Aug 13: Washington, DC - 9:30 Club Aug 14 (TENTATIVE): Washington, DC - 9:30 Club Aug 15: TBA Aug 17: New York City - Tramps's Aug 18: New York City - Tramps's Aug 20: Boston, MA - Roxy Aug 21: Philadelphia, PA - TBA Aug 22: Cleveland, OH - Agora Theatre * September 6: Bumpershoot Festival, Seattle, WA U.K. Sept 19: Dublin - H.Q. Sept 21: Wavedon - Stables Sept 22: London - Dingwall's Sept 23: Colchester - Arts Centre Sept 24: Winchester - Arts Centre Sept 26: Birmingham - Ronnie Scott's Sept 27: Cambridge - Portland Arms Sept 28: Oxford - Zodiac Sept 29: Manchester - Band on the Wall Sept 30: Glasgow - G2 "Storefront Hitchcock" screenings in Australia July 23 & 25: Auckland International Film Festival July 29 & Aug 1: Wellington International Film Festival Aug 4: Dunedin International Film Festival ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1999 18:32:55 -0700 From: "Livia" Subject: Re: Marx is so dreamy, you know? That beard, those revolutionary notions... > From: Vivien Lyon > To: fegmaniax@smoe.org > Subject: Marx is so dreamy, you know? > That beard, those revolutionary notions... > Date: Tuesday, July 06, 1999 7:43 AM > > James Dignan said- > > PS - 4th of July... that's some kind of anniversary, > > isn't it? Oh, yes, > > that's right - the 121st anniversary of publication > > of Das Kapital! > > Karl Marx was reading Das Kapital to me in my dream > this morning! And I thought he was hilarious! > > I'm not kidding. I woke up and drifted off again > briefly. It's supposed to rain today in Chicago-land, > so in my dream I was trying to figure out whether or > not to bike to work. I finally decided against it and > kicked my ex-roommate out of my car. She angrily got > into a taxi, Karl Marx confusedly exited said taxi, > and got into my car. Then he took over the drivers' > seat and started reading me Das Kapital in a funny > voice and making sarcastic comments. Then he threw it > on the floor and said disgustedly, "I could have done > so much better." > > Vivien and i only dreamed that i was sitting on a bench with robyn. how very unimaginative. np in my head: i'm only you. and for that, here's my own non- kabal name amalysis: elisabeth : s is a french spelling, and so the world has been mixing me up from the start. i recently found out that my parents had a deal: my mother would fully name the first, and (when they decided to have another 2-3 years later, in the usual doomed marriage-saving experiment), my father the second. so all i got from him was perrin, and she chose elisabeth lyttleton, which as you see is full of randomizer spinners (s/z, y/i, tt, etc) and false clues and attempts to bind me to her, which never worked. i diced it up into roots a few months ago, and realized i could dump them all but one at any given time and she could have that crappy little bone. (and my father was always the parent i loved, which my bitch mother couldn't stand; my sister wanted her, and so all she got was a lot of my father's attention and misguided confidence- building manipulation. but the three of us have worked that all out this year, and amy [nee margaret] and i have even done a trade on middle names, so i got one of the two my dad gave her, and it's a beautiful name i always coveted and she didn't like much. clemence, even. so: elizabeth means (see any decent name-book): chosen of god. i hated that because i was an adamant little atheist and hated all that boring church crud. eli sabeth? eli sunday, sure. and i think i was born then, but i'd much rather be saturday and have fun going far. (and i also learned last week that i was at least a month overdue, supposedly, while my sister was a month premature. a schizoid control-freak who gets semi-accidentally pregnant by any of several men [but most likely her fiancee] can make her pre-child come out almost any time she chooses, with a few lies and some drugs and techniques. my parents were married in november, and i was born july 25. so you go figure it for me, please: what "sign" am i really? late july-1, ie gemini/cancer? 7/25-2? {er, 5/25, so like peter-alexandra, aka gemini over taurus, i think. alexandra is my niece, 5/16, so her mom should know.} and on, using all sorts of semi-imaginary language transforms (like latin to greek to my pretend phonetic japanese with some real roots, and back out via hebrew/aramaic/tohay/merlin stone): eli sa/za: do i want to hiss or buzz? be a weak lisper (or sneaky slitherer) or a buzzing hornet? to me, za means lightning, and so wild somewhzt dangerous excitement, and i call my cat kikko-za because he thinks kikko-sa means he's weak and cowardly. beth. aleph, beth, gimel, etc. and the good weak dying sister in little women. the prettist standard nickname, but ruined by that book. so i chose liz [typo just now: lioz] as the least-aswful nickname, far better than betty and her bag, betsy moo, etc. (and never mind that girl i knew in high school who called herself "zabett" and had long dark hair like my mother's only friend elizabeth mansell, or indeed that other hs girl i knew who was the girlfriend of the first guy i had a crush on (nat conard) and while named elisabeth swan was called "wrinkle" because she scrunched up her face a lot <> but i prefer east grinstead via knocking postmen, ok? so: who am i? i ask that in all seriousness, because i am so full of real and imaginary clues and so busy telling other people who they are and getting compliments and amusement and tricks and imaginary kisses in return that i really don't know. though i do know what robert and toyah and maybe even robyn think, at least now and then. whew. now playing: queen elvis, the album, as it has been all night and ever since i woke up. playing next/downstairs: phoenix. no more typing from me for a while (and thank blood goodness for that, i hear you all say). love, livia ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 Jul 1999 18:48:59 -0700 From: "Russ Reynolds" Subject: Re:JfS lyrics >by the way, >is a lyric sheet included with JEWELS FOR SOPHIA? if so, Not with the copy I got...but I see there is one up on eBay that comes with a "poetry book" featuring all the lyrics. >on Elizabeth Jade, is it >- --"before i find myself a pauper" or "before i find myself a pauper"? ya know what--the more I hear it the more it sounds like "Papa". This song absolutely shreds, by the way. More & more I find myself going directly to that track and cranking it up until drops of blood start to trickle out my ears. Then I turn it up one louder. I envision an Austin Powers/Mid '60s style video for this tune with go-go dancers and people boppin' up and down. It's just that kind of tune. - -rUss this may read like a fax, but in the hand I never relax I've got.... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 13:54:44 +1200 (NZST) From: digja611@student.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) Subject: Basingstoke >I was struck by the juxtaposition of heaven and Basingstoke, and I >wondered whether this article influenced the line "I dream of eternity or >Basingstoke or Reading". Coincidence? I think not. may be just one of those things. I once, in my pre-Robyn life, wrote a short story called "Basingstoke next exit", that had various afterlifish (that is 'like afterlife', not 'afterlife fish') moments. James ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 Jul 1999 22:23:22 -0700 From: "Michael R. Runion" Subject: Re: VA with NMH / More OAR Joel Mullins wrote: > > - Various Artists - Oh, Merge! (10th anniversary collection w/Neutral > Milk Hotel, East River Pipe, Rocket from the Crypt, et al.) (Merge) > > This was just released today. Anybody know anything about it? I think I read somewhere that it includes the live "Engine" cut that was the B-side to the Blue Rose "Holland" 7". This was the song recorded live in some London subway station. hal brandt wrote: > > The credits on Robyn's track on the Skip Spence tribute (out today) > should have read "Poorly produced by..." It sounds thin and tinny with a > distorted ringing to me. Anyone else who bothered to buy this less than > satisfied? It's a sloppy performance as well. It sounds like he was in a > hurry and didn't bother to do a second take. For completists (aka > weenies) only. Hmm. I snagged this album this weekend after a lengthy "keep it / put it back" debate with myself. Dammit, I think I like this record! I can see what hal's saying regarding the production of "Broken Heart", I mean, it's just Robyn and guitar, and yeah, recorded a bit weakly. But I think the song is pretty stunning, as are most of the others on here. I never heard OAR before, and damn if I'm not eager to search it out now. Plus it's something to take my mind off having to wait until July 20. Back to it, MIke ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 Jul 1999 19:24:22 -0700 From: "Russ Reynolds" Subject: Re: ENO TGQ: >PS: Eno = Pit of Souls I was going to nominate that one too, but I couldn't remember the title. Maybe also "Luminous Rose" - -rUss ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 Jul 1999 19:27:16 -0700 From: "Russ Reynolds" Subject: Re: More Oar opined hal: >For completists (aka >weenies) only. well...that's pretty much most of us, ain't it? I'm buying it. - -weenie #96 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 Jul 1999 19:32:43 -0700 From: "Russ Reynolds" Subject: Re: acronyms Joel: >1. I've been wondering why we're referring to Jewels for Sophia as JfS. >I'm assuming that it's because "for" is a minor word that doesn't need >to be capitalized. I just think it looks cooler and more regal with the lower case f. I'm doing it 'cause it's cooler and more regal and I figure you people will think I'm cool and regal for doing so. - -rUss (unfortunately the upper case U just looks stupid) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 Jul 1999 22:34:11 -0400 From: four episode lesbian Subject: Re: If it's not too late MC 900 Ft Russ Reynolds rapped: >Been out of town for a few days and am catching up now. I forget when Viv >is supposed to interview RH but here's a question for: A few years >ago--about the time of Y&O I believe--reports circulated that Robyn had >found a body on a beach. Details were pretty much limited to these facts: >Robyn found a body on a beach. an article about this appeared in an whfs newsletter which was going to be reprinted in the last issue of positive vibrations, but, so far, has only appeared on the web: . not many more details, but at least something... woj n.p. fans ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 Jul 1999 22:48:46 -0400 From: four episode lesbian Subject: Re: more on south park MC 900 Ft michelle wiener rapped: >did anyone else stay til the very end of the credits? absolutely. ever since i-forget-which-movie-with-lots-of-funny-stuff-in-the-credits, staying till the twin technicolor and afl-cio logos fade to black has been s.o.p. for me. >some of them seemed to drag, and i kept hoping for a Chef song--one >appears on the soundtrack, which is an additional reason to purchase it. i wonder if the chef song was one of the things they had to cut from the film to avoid nc-17... MC 900 Ft Jason R. Thornton rapped: >I'd also agree that South Park is extremely "political and stuff." the new york times review takes this to extremes. i'm sure trey amd matt laughed their asses off while reading it, but i betcha they also nodded sagely thinking, "right on!" after they settled down... woj ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 Jul 1999 20:51:48 PDT From: D B Subject: Re: Jewels For Sophia Dear Everybuddy: Wow...!!! I have to proclaim as loudly as ever I can that Jewels for Sophia was well worth the wait. After Moss Elixir I was convinced beyond mere strong inklings that Robyn's next record wouldn't fail to disappoint. But then, I despise David fucking Boowie... ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 Jul 1999 23:50:02 -0500 From: tanter Subject: RE: Basingstoke >>I was struck by the juxtaposition of heaven and Basingstoke, and I >>wondered whether this article influenced the line "I dream of eternity or >>Basingstoke or Reading". Coincidence? I think not. Uh, well, from Winchester, the next main train stop is Basingstoke and then Reading. I think he's just thinking about taking the train from Winchester to Cambridge.... Marcy L. Tanter Assistant Professor of English Tarleton State University Stephenville, TX 76401 254-968-9892 (9039 to leave a message) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1999 23:53:43 -0500 From: David Librik Subject: Re: Snowcrashnomicon Age >Well, I just finished "Snow Crash" and "The Diamond Age," and I do like >Neal, but he's a faaaar cry from a Pynchon and a near cry from a Sterling. >I mean, I really liked "Diamond Age" a lot -- I'd rank it 17 out of 20 >Wintermutes -- but "Snow Crash," while reminiscent of "Vineland," was a bit >too derivative of Gibson, Sterling and Walter Jon Williams to really merit >the hype. (In my humble opinion.) I honestly don't understand the comparison to Pynchon. Tom's got lots of things going on at different levels in his books, and they're thick with literary and historical references. He's got slang and digressions, too, but everything contributes to a seamless complexity. You can read _Lot 49_ just for the jokes and the crackpot theories, but even then you'll realize there's a lot going on that you're missing. Neal Stephenson's writing hip social satire in a typical wisecracking Generation X style, and he's never done more than that (and succeeded, at least). "Snow Crash" is a parody or piss-take on Cyberpunk, that stupid genre that was worn-out by the time Gibson wrote his second novel, and it nails the cliches in the best possible way -- by saying "no, idiots, _this_ is far more technically likely...". So he replaces "cyberspace neural jacks" with high-speed graphical goggles displaying a virtual world exactly 32,768 units across, and the "wealth vs. poverty" chasm with an America gone entirely middle-class suburban. (Of course, everyone promptly praised it for being some kind of visionary work of Cyberpunk, so he had to start his next book by creating an ultra- Gibsonian character and then killing that big dumb techno-meathead off in the next chapter. I still don't think many people realize what he's doing; of course, these are the same people who don't realize Stephenson's making up the Sumerian neuro-linguistic hacker stuff, too.) NS is really good at funny asides and clever metaphors -- little rants on how franchises are viruses and Linux is a tank -- and he's good at humor based on social observation. But the farther he treads into real commentary and character development, the worse he turns out. And then there are his endings -- if he can't just nuke everything from orbit, he doesn't know what to do -- so people get moved around like interchangeable chess pieces as he tries to make everything wrap up right. Cryptonomicon is the worst of a long decline from brilliance. The "lousy ending" starts about 200 pages from the end of the book, and the social commentary can be reduced to: 1. I've been to Asia and I know about it! 2. I sure do hate academics and liberals! Tough, practical, libertarian-minded people rule! What can you say? He's a real techie, and he gets the tech stuff mostly right. He's great at capturing subcultures and situations in a few perfectly- chosen images. He's got style out the wazoo. He can't plot and his books are literarily shallow -- sometimes that's just fine, even great (The Big U, Snow Crash -- the richness in these novels is from the ideas and the style) -- but when he starts trying to tell an original story of science fiction things rapidly get incoherent (Diamond Age, Cryptonomicon). If you read "Snow Crash" and "The Diamond Age" and wondered how that nightmare-world came about, "Cryptonomicon" is part of the explanation. Our heroes form a startup company, work hard, and look to succeed in their project: the destruction of democracy. I still wonder whether or not Stephenson's secretly messing with everyone's minds, waiting to pull back the curtain at some massive literary high-school assembly and say "Look! This is what you've been cheering for! Cultural imperialism and empire-building!!" - - David Librik ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Jul 1999 00:08:11 PDT From: Capitalism Blows Subject: eb all over the world you know, i can't ever remember a movie getting such ecstatic reviews on feg. <--"before i find myself a pauper" or "before i find myself a pauper"?> oops. i meant "popper" or "pauper", of course. <1. I've been wondering why we're referring to Jewels for Sophia as JfS. I'm assuming that it's because "for" is a minor word that doesn't need to be capitalized. But if that is the case, then why do we say IODOT? Shouldn't it be IODoT? Not that it matters much, but this has been on my mind lately. 2. And what do we do with Invisible Hits, Invisible Hitchcock, and Invisible History? They'd all be IH.> yet more evidence that the idea of using acronyms to abbreviate album names was sent to us by satan. _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 00:20:10 -0700 From: "Livia" Subject: Re: It seems I owe you an apology > From: ultraconformist@mail.weboffices.com > To: Livia > Subject: It seems I owe you an apology > Date: Tuesday, July 06, 1999 9:30 PM > > Woj tells me that he never saw your last mail on the list. > > Since I had received three copies, I'd just assumed that one had gone to > the list and the other two to me. I did not realize that they had all been > addressed to me. > > If this was not a mistake and you had in fact meant this to be a personal > email I owe you an apology. > > Now I am very confused, since I have been getting two copies of everything > from you all along, and assuming that one was a courtesy copy and one a > list copy. I hope this mistake is not as big as I think it is. If it is I > owe a large apology indeed and I have also been dancing with myself, as the > cliche goes, for a few days now. i rarely send personal email without typing in the address in full, because i dislike accidental babbling. whatever i send to you, viv (unless i type her full address), russ, james dignan, etc, is also meant for the list. but, sometimes i hit reply instead of reply all and fail to notice, and it's a pain to put the list back in on CC, because i can't paste the correct address out of what i'm reeading (since it always since "the list which invented itself" there), and to get the actual f@s.o address i must go through the miserable MS internet mail process of right-clicking on a message in the message list, selecting properties, then selecting details, then finding the address amidst a lot of header text and selecting/copying/ pasting it. yeah, i know i should update the address book, but that's also a pain, and the 'loose acronyms sink something or other' principle is so deeply instilled in me. > Love on ya, > Susan > too much for this brain. bed time. but this brain isn't even halfway through her day, and has a few chores to do and then a lot of timw for public/private fun, so feel free to send her mail with a standout subject line (i still have a lot unread) or [er, wait, why don't you just pick one yourself, silly liv. like maybe "hats for cats" or "just call me rhae". and tell sally that laura still doesn't have a fully accurate and personal guidance system.] call her at 425-556-3977 (alt message # with screwed-up remote retrieval code: 425-452-8929). or just throw a colored mental image my way. i'll follow purple, and i'll always listen to blue-green (aka cerulean). love on susan and everyone else who wants a bit. and please don't krrp pointing it at gran, because she must have a private room in a luxury retirement center by now, complete with daily maid service and gourmet cuisine. ~*@ >> the very real livia [who, being so, must now go make specialness out of trash. but hey, that's a start.] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 08:31:05 +0100 (BST) From: Stewart Russell 3295 Analyst_Programmer Subject: Re: (no subject) >>>>> "Eddie" == Capitalism Blows writes: Eddie> "Monsanto should not have to vouchsafe the safety of Eddie> biotech food. Our interest is in selling as much of it as Eddie> possible." --Company spokesman Phill Angell Ah, you should see the hoops that the UK food industry has to jump through to avoid GM food. Sales of brazil nuts (which are still wild-gathered, btw) have rocketed since their discovery as an alternative to soya lecithin, says my brother, IT guru at a large confectionary company. Stewart [Yay! Viva Sept 30! G2's not a bad venue, but will I be the only feg there?] - -- Stewart C. Russell Analyst Programmer, Dictionary Division stewart@ref.collins.co.uk HarperCollins Publishers use Disclaimer; my $opinion; Glasgow, Scotland ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 00:25:25 -0700 From: "Livia" Subject: Re: Basingstoke > From: James Dignan > To: fegmaniax@smoe.org > Subject: Basingstoke > Date: Tuesday, July 06, 1999 6:54 PM > > >I was struck by the juxtaposition of heaven and Basingstoke, and I > >wondered whether this article influenced the line "I dream of eternity or > >Basingstoke or Reading". Coincidence? I think not. > > may be just one of those things. I once, in my pre-Robyn life, wrote a > short story called "Basingstoke next exit", that had various afterlifish > (that is 'like afterlife', not 'afterlife fish') moments. > > James and i wrote one called "The Ultimate Virtual Reality" (published by millennium, an online magazine, 6/98), where the heroine got sucked into a bizarre screensaver and found herself in a deserted parking garage complete with floating signs and admonishing voices. but she hates picking too many stupid options from computer menus, especially when they flash and insult her intelligence, and so she reboots and very nearly dies/ goes to hell. but then the paramedics from that morning's nasty car crash (modeled on the commute from greenwood to MS) save her just in time. If only they knew... if anyone wants to read the full version sometime, you have but to ask. In fact, maybe I'll send it on to james (solo) or viv. or does she already have it? hmm. sneaky. ok, then james will get something else. > lyv ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 00:55:12 -0700 From: "Livia" Subject: Re: eb all over the world > <1. I've been wondering why we're referring to Jewels for Sophia as JfS. > I'm assuming that it's because "for" is a minor word that doesn't need to be > capitalized. But if that is the case, then why do we say IODOT? Shouldn't > it be IODoT? Not that it matters much, but this has been on my mind lately. > 2. And what do we do with Invisible Hits, Invisible Hitchcock, and > Invisible History? They'd all be IH.> rong, rong, rong. it's because somebody out there (very much like me) like to use greek letters at every opportunity. and ƒ is a lot like Ø : that is, phi, pronounced fee. but in my rather lame case, knowledge of these fine letters is nearly all via math and older literature (the long f once used for s, for example), and thus i often confuse symbol (and its case), name, and function. [for me, ƒ is a lot more like an integral sign, and Ø more like so. § is way familiar, but i got my math degree 9+ years ago and so am a little rusty, as it were.] [f]Fæpå and similarly, f[anything] is its function, while this is obviously p, andf this fine and this big sigma is just a summation. but i just stumbled across the key! instead of pasting symbols in one at a time to word2, then here in selected chunks, just start typing in english between any two from one of those greekie chunklets. > yet more evidence that the idea of using acronyms to abbreviate album names > was sent to us by satan. so the devil calls in greek? well, maybe he just whispers that in someone's cute little ear. as å aeolec moo wow man, this is so way fucking cool oh baby hmm. betsy is almost out pf her bag, eh? maybe a bit of latin just to amuse. atque et vales or french. oui, monsieur. ton petite amie arrive. well, ok, i'm a bit rusty there as well. but even so, i still love you. so æ'olec me away... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 02:42:40 -0700 (PDT) From: S Dwarf Subject: Re: eb all over the world someone sed: > 2. And what do we do with Invisible Hits, Invisible > Hitchcock, and Invisible History? They'd all be IH. IHs, IHk, & IHy? i blame the caffeine...... _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 02:29:13 -0700 From: "Livia" Subject: Re: ENO > TGQ: = LoG / SFSQ > >PS: Eno = Pit of Souls eno can put cherry pits in my bowl any old time > I was going to nominate that one too, but I couldn't remember the title. > Maybe also "Luminous Rose" how about that celadon capybara? > -rUss lYv? no, the lowercase l is too stick-y. LyV? hmm. that's more promising. LyV~viae sounds a bit hip-hop (like Amil-lion from JayZ's video in Jan or so), so... maybe i'll just let roxy and roro split the difference. (LyvViaE? and make that an e grecia for the lopsided W and winking Y) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 02:32:01 -0700 From: "Livia" Subject: Re: acronyms > Joel: > >1. I've been wondering why we're referring to Jewels for Sophia as JfS. > >I'm assuming that it's because "for" is a minor word that doesn't need > >to be capitalized. > > I just think it looks cooler and more regal with the lower case f. I'm > doing it 'cause it's cooler and more regal and I figure you people will > think I'm cool and regal for doing so. > > -rUss (unfortunately the upper case U just looks stupid) bUt seriously, there's been a filter in citadel foralmostever that puts the user's text into alternately upper/lower. it's called PsYcHo ChIcKeN. and with that i'm off to the lakes catfeed, richard's to check mail/voice mail (and reset remote security code), and then perhaps a stop or two at some 24-hour shop. oh, and to make full use of my newly-rediscovered cash card... b'Bye => me ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V8 #237 *******************************