From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V8 #230 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Friday, July 2 1999 Volume 08 : Number 230 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: eb all over the world [ultraconformist@mail.weboffices.com] Re: Imperial Bedroom ["Jason R. Thornton" ] Re: Imperial Bedroom [Joel Mullins ] Arizona ["Linnig" ] Ignore the strange address...but listen to me! [Leslie Lyon ] Emperor Sylvian ["Jason R. Thornton" ] yest, he's the best ["jbranscombe@compuserve.com" ] Sharkboy rides again...JEME READ the bottom of THIS DAMMIT [Mark_Gloster@] Re: Sharkboy rides again...JEME READ the bottom of THIS DAMMIT [Mark_Glos] Re: Sharkboy rides again...JEME READ the bottom of THIS DAMMIT [Capuchin ] Re: Sharkboy rides again...JEME READ the bottom of THIS DAMMIT [Ross Over] Re: the devil and other quail relatives [ultraconformist@mail.weboffices.] drum solos [dmw ] Re: eb all over the world [S Dwarf ] Eb, the invisible genius? [gondola@deltanet.com] Re: Sharkboy rides again... oh, and little bitches who don't send tapes... and dum solas [Mark] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1999 15:53:11 -0600 From: ultraconformist@mail.weboffices.com Subject: Re: eb all over the world >well, just reading through that boycott page, that sure didn't seem to be >what people were all up in arms about. in fact, i don't think they referred >to it at all. Huh. Weird. If I were going to join it that'd be the reason. It seems to be the only really good one. >don't look now, susie, but it's already summer! unless you mean *next* >spring, Jahwohl, next spring. >which would mean that hedblade is capable of planning ahead an (for >me) unfathomable *three seasons*. Ain't it awful how that ability will be absolutely wasted in Los Angeles, where they have no seasons? >about that than I do.> > >oh, i was just joking about that. I knew that :). >Airscape is my favorite robyn song. but it's also, i think, the only song >that i've never heard him do better live than the album cut. OK, question for the collector experts: any of you heard anything from GD live? Longtime fans: did you ever hear any of these live? Inquiring minds want to know. Love on ya, Susan ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 Jul 1999 13:53:18 -0700 From: "Jason R. Thornton" Subject: Re: Imperial Bedroom At 02:53 PM 7/2/99 -0700, Joel Mullins wrote: >Jason R. Thornton wrote: > >> np: Ben Folds' new one, for the second time today! I blame you, Joel. ;) > >I assume you're saying that you don't like it and that it's my fault. >Well, I haven't been trying to make any converts, so don't put the blame >on me. I think we've all established that I'm in the minority with this >album. Actually...all I was trying to say was that the recent conversation here on Fegmaniax about this album, of which you and I were participants, put me in the mood to listen to it. And, that I like it enough to listen to it twice in one day...but just not enough to put it in my top 10 of the year. I wasn't trying to accuse you of conversion attempts. Although, I don't really see that much of a difference between raving about an album in a public forum, and "trying to make...converts." That said, I honestly appreciate the various attempts to convert me made by my fellow listmembers. Hell, Eb's still my hero for converting me over to Neutral Milk Hotel and most especially to Rufus Wainwright. Can I get an "amen?" Speaking of being a missionary, how many of you heathens have yet to purchase the new David Sylvian? Also, I would never, really, *blame* someone for making a recommendation to me. If I hate something you love...oh well. Tastes differ. Cheers! - --Jason ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 Jul 1999 16:25:47 -0700 From: Joel Mullins Subject: Re: Imperial Bedroom Jason R. Thornton wrote: > Actually...all I was trying to say was that the recent conversation here on > Fegmaniax about this album, of which you and I were participants, put me in > the mood to listen to it. And, that I like it enough to listen to it twice > in one day...but just not enough to put it in my top 10 of the year. Oh. Well, then you like it better than most people on this list. I like it quite a bit. I think it's a good album. And though it's presently in my top 5 of the year, I'll be very disappointed if it's still there in December. It wouldn't have made my top 10 in 1998. But so far, 1999 hasn't been as wonderful as last year. I guess we'll see what happens. Maybe I'll check out this David Sylvian you keep talking about. What's he like? I don't think I've ever heard of him before. Joel ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 21:52:30 -0700 From: "Linnig" Subject: Arizona Hey all: Does anyone recall the last time Robyn came to Arizona? Since I moved here from Chicago two years ago, the best show I've seen has been Tom Jones (with my mother in law). The Other Terry ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 Jul 1999 10:22:25 -0500 From: Leslie Lyon Subject: Ignore the strange address...but listen to me! Cripes. Stupid motherfucking Yahoo is down. But I read the archives, and here's what I have to say: 1. Rebecca- Good on you, mate! Ah yes, Eddie has put me in mind of the salad days of my Robyn obsession. I listened to nothing but. And then, many months later, when I started listening to Neutral Milk Hotel, I felt like I was betraying Robyn, the same way I...(deep breath)..betrayed Elvis Costello. I mean, how could I?! How could I find any other music as satisfying as his? Wasn't that just like *cheating*? But now I realize that it's more like I have many lovers...I mean, loves....What I mean is, there's plenty of me to go around....(realizes everyone is staring at her)....uh.... 2. I will certainly ask him about things political. Possibilities- Ever considered running for public office? Ever considered yourself a politcal songwriter? If you had Tony Blair and some sharp implements in a sound-proof room, what would you do? 3. Imperial Bedroom makes me cry with joy. The opening to Beyond Belief is one of the most intense sounds I've ever heard. Last summer I used to BLAST this out of my roommate's car and just drive around feeling euphoric. And also like a damned fool, because I'd sing along real loud. Hopefully the stereo drowned me out. Now I drive around yelling along with Jeff Mangum and opeing my mouth really wide. The moral of the story is, being seen in a car with me is instant social ostracization. 4. Eb, release Terry and back away slowly. What manner of feg art thou, that can hold hostage an innocent Monkees-loving young boy and force him to utter such vile, ungroovy things? Aren't you ashamed of yourself? 5. Stay tuned for Chicago-gathering details. They involve such unsavory things as 'themes' and 'going overboard.' 6. The Blair Witch Project sounds just like a film I saw at the CUFF (Chicago Underground Film Festival) last summer. It was called The Jersey Devil, and it was supposedly a documentary. I think I've posted about this before. 7. My favorite Robyn-song of the moment: I Don't Remember Guildford. Runner-up: Antwoman. Vivien July in Chicago is officially "Regional Hitchcock Appreciation Month" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1999 18:54:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Bayard Subject: Re: eb all over ultraSusan: > OK, question for the collector experts: any of you heard anything from GD > live? Longtime fans: did you ever hear any of these live? Inquiring minds > want to know. Assuming you don't mean "anything from the Grateful Dead," yes, he has played some a fair bit. for example, >St. Petersburg. Definitely. Yow. agreed; you might be surprised to see he's played it live at least four times. http://158.72.105.122/gh/base/song.asp?squid=576 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 Jul 1999 16:22:14 -0700 From: "Jason R. Thornton" Subject: Emperor Sylvian At 04:25 PM 7/2/99 -0700, Joel Mullins wrote: >Maybe I'll check out this David Sylvian you keep talking about. What's >he like? I don't think I've ever heard of him before. Since you've never heard of David Sylvian, I probably wouldn't suggest the most recent album as a starting point. Although, it *is* fairly representative of his diverse styles. If you're in any way a fan of Robert Fripp, or King Crimson, you might want to check out either the Sylvian/Fripp studio release "The First Day," which is basically a Belew-less Crim, or their currently unavailable live effort "Damage," both of which are simply terrific. But, these albums owe more to Fripp, I think, than Sylvian. Most likely the best introduction to Sylvian would be the insanely gorgeous "Secrets of the Beehive." In terms of instrumentation, it's a lot like "Apple Venus Vol. I": lots of acoustic instruments mixed with lush string arrangements, but with a much, much darker vibe than XTC. Definitely a contender for my Top 10 Albums Ever list. Seriously. Cheers! - --JT ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1999 19:21:56 -0400 From: "jbranscombe@compuserve.com" Subject: yest, he's the best Mike G. , He can play Airscape without the Egyptians, he can, he can, he can, I was there... Just to back you up, Mike, on your intuitive evaluation of the Paris set-lists ...yes, I thought they were brilliantly varied and balanced. Perhaps the best I've ever seen from him in those terms. I still want to hear bloody 'Mexican God' though. And for fans of between song stuff, his mixture of French and English was superb. I will expand on that element soon, I promise. jmbc. 'La guitare acoustique, comme Prince Phillip' (just a taster) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1999 19:35:14 -0400 From: "jbranscombe@compuserve.com" Subject: UK Robyn In reply to Dr John (blimey I'd like to be able to call myself that). There should be a medium-sized tour of the UK in Sept/ Oct/Nov I believe. The last I heard for JFS release on this sceptred isle was Sept 6th. jmbc. (Some of the Americans are getting jealous?!!! Huh...) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1999 16:37:51 -0700 From: Mark_Gloster@3com.com Subject: Sharkboy rides again...JEME READ the bottom of THIS DAMMIT Rerereiterating my Hitchcockian (Robyn) musical opinion: I really like Robyn's albums. I'm not as thrilled with the S/B stuff or the GD stuff, but still love the vibe. Robyn's entire body of work stands very high for me as a marriage of really great visual, yet somewhat obscure lyrics, poppy, yet interesting and developed melodies, and interesting subject matter. I really place him in a field by himself as a songwriter. Nobody else could compete with him if judged by the qualities that make him great. I feel very similarly about Stan Ridgway, King Crimson, David Byrne, and Danny Elfman. Interestingly enough, I don't think I'm ever "not in the mood" to listen to Robyn. I suppose I like Globe of Frogs about the most from his collection, but almost every one shines in a different way. I can kind of fall into listening to one of his CD's every day for a month and then moving on to another one. BTW: I still think Moss Elyxir is one of the greatest and sophisticated albums I've ever heard. I also still love Respect. JFS: kixass. Mexican God is my definite fave of the moment. Perhaps it has something to do with where I am right now, but I really like it. I can't disagree with anything anybody has said about it, except maybe the negatives. I'm as taken by You Got a Sweet Mouth on You Baby, I Feel Beautiful, or Sally Was a Legend, but that is predictably a taste matter. While they aren't my faves, the production and choice of instrumentation makes them interesting to me. Robyn's lyrics are some of the only ones I've heard that could stand up to literate scrutiny. They are poetic, visual, beatiful or grating- but they always seem to be the musical manefestation of art. New fegs: Welcome! Hi Rebecca. About the list: We don't always render our fawning opinions of all that is Robyn. Many of us have spent minutes, days, or years on other lists where someone might suggest that "ELP could have done Tarkus with less than 17 drum solos," or that "Tory Amos is not the incarnate of god, herself," and such a perpetrator of shocking slander is then tracked down and killed like a soccer player from Columbia. People should feel free to say what they think here. It is always nice when they consider the feelings of others, but, hey we all say things that we'd like to take back sometimes. Randi, it was great chatting with you on your happy bidet party day. Sorry if we were too silly, or if we just didn't make any sense. Or we had trouble using the phone properly. It was really fun singing and playing for you over the phone. (For Sharkboy, UberMan, and Wicked Ninkworth teleconcerts, dial 1-900-BUFFALOFARTS. It will only cost you 9 billion dollars a minute, but the audio quality can't be beaten by entertainment systems costing upwards of ten cents. Do it today.) Viv, your dream image of me is exactly correct. My hair is so big, huge, strong, and massive that it can sometimes get tangled in the spokes and gears and tear my head off. Usually a few hundred stiches and some duct tape later I'm back to normal, which is not to say that I, too, am Terry Marks. Sometimes it sheers the sprockets off my bike or rips the chain into tiny pieces, which either spawns the idea of a new German TV series or makes Southern (USA) bands start whinin' that song about chains bein' unbroken and how nice it is to take our bibles and our cousins out on dates to the tractor pulls 'cause it's the way o' th' lard. This is why I've only been riding a stationary bike lately- less painful ramifications that way. Man, does it piss people off when I try to ride it on streets that don't have bike lanes. Tom: sharkboy alcohol content. You are on to me. I must extract your spleen and pancreas (mmmm, sweetbreads) for your transgression of confidence. I am actually made of pure grain alcohol inside a big skin ballon. It's a precious bodily fluids thing. I seldom drink because I changed my chemical makeup in college, and have been peering at the world through blurry, clouded eyes ever since. I am a trained professional, and you should not try this at home. FYI, alcohol is a very poor memory storage medium. LJ and The: great seeing you. Kwayul, you can leave Lj here as long and as often as you want. Lj, you can leave cwhale here for little short stays once in a while. Both: we'd love to see you more often. We certainly had a blast seeing you and using you as a way to justify seeing all the other Bay Area Feggery, as well as that wacky, zany, and sometimes even madcap Michael Wolfe. One regret was having only spent hours in the company of y'all and youse alls. Wee shud alt git aholt of eech uther moore offin. JEME (Zjeem, Zjemee, Sheem, etc.: SLOW GHERKIN: Friday July 16th, Santa Cruz, Catalyst. You might want to attend. Let me know.... I'm sure there was much more to say, but I can't remember what it was. Have I mentioned what a terrible medium that alcohol is for data storage? I feel like I'm repeating myself, but I can't even remember to whom I'm writing. See what I mean? Happies, - -M(sh)ark(boy)g ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1999 17:28:25 -0700 From: Mark_Gloster@3com.com Subject: Re: Sharkboy rides again...JEME READ the bottom of THIS DAMMIT I meant that I'm NOT as taken with you got a sweet mouth, i feel beautiful, sally was an acura, etc... Oh. And _SHEAR_. sorry about sharing my constant state of confusion, - -markg ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1999 17:38:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: Sharkboy rides again...JEME READ the bottom of THIS DAMMIT On Fri, 2 Jul 1999 Mark_Gloster@3com.com wrote: > I feel very similarly about Stan Ridgway, King Crimson, David Byrne, > and Danny Elfman. I still stand by my assertion that you have to go WAY further down on the success ladder before you meet up with an artist whose lyrical corniness matches that of Danny Elfman. I'll still listen to Oingo Boingo most days. > Interestingly enough, I don't think I'm ever "not in the mood" to > listen to Robyn. And I won't ever object to the suggestion of listening to Queen Elvis (the album. I might tell you to "turn this shit off" if you put that song on at the wrong time. It's more mood sensitive than other things). > Robyn's lyrics are some of the only ones I've heard that could > stand up to literate scrutiny. They are poetic, visual, beatiful > or grating- but they always seem to be the musical > manefestation of art. The rhyme schemes, man. The rhyme schemes. > (For Sharkboy, UberMan, and Wicked Ninkworth teleconcerts, dial > 1-900-BUFFALOFARTS. It will only cost you 9 billion dollars a > minute, but the audio quality can't be beaten by entertainment > systems costing upwards of ten cents. Do it today.) I called and I loved it! It seemed so real. When he told me he saw a financial chasm in my future, I didn't think much of it. But then, just three weeks later, I received a phone bill for over 18 billion dollars! His predictions couldn't have been more accurate! And he knew it all in less than two minutes! I'm going to call back again and again! > Viv, your dream image of me is exactly correct. I haven't been following up on my mail (but I've a big stack in the inbox waiting to be replied, coordinated, and recycled), but I was going to tell Vivien L. J. Lyon exactly the same thing. Mark's hair is huge and thick and only under ideal conditions does it actually separate into individual strands. It's a singular organic mass with mind, muscle, and will of its own quite independent of Mark's alchoholic turgidity. > JEME (Zjeem, Zjemee, Sheem, etc.: SLOW GHERKIN: Friday July 16th, > Santa Cruz, Catalyst. You might want to attend. Let me know.... YES YES YES YES YES!!!! I am SO excited by this. You couldn't possibly understand! My favorite local band that isn't local to my own area and they're playing the one weekend I get to be near Santa Cruz. Mark... we have to work out details. I know you invited me to stay with you on Friday and Saturday, but I have to fly out of SFO on Sunday evening and I have to finish my converence on Friday afternoon. What's the best way to swing that? Trains? Buses? Rikshaws? *sniff* I love you guys. J. PS. Robyn Hitchcock iz neet. - -- ________________________________________________________ J A Brelin Capuchin ________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1999 21:11:25 -0400 (EDT) From: Ross Overbury Subject: Re: Sharkboy rides again...JEME READ the bottom of THIS DAMMIT Oh, crap! Charqueboie* just said all the stuff I was going to say about Robyn that wasn't already said about Robyn when Joel asked why we don't go on about, um, Robyn. Someone else, (Susan?) said that Robyn was the one she kept going back to. Yeah, me too. I've got 20 Robyn legitimate releases on CD, 9 RH thingies on CD, a couple of cassettes, and some other stuff. The only artist I have more of is FZ. You have to factor in Frank's length of career, the fact that the first album I bought at 14 was Burnt Weenie Sandwich (Did I mention that here before? God, I was so very, very hip), the size of his catalogue and the fact that I was able to snap up quite a lot of it at Edie's CD shop ("clearance - everything must go" for some 5 years now). Robyn's music clicked with me immediately, and has stayed with me. Anything I've bought of his I still have and enjoy -- some more, some less. If I don't say many specific things about Robyn's music, it's because you American bastards can get new releases about 6 weeks before get my chance. By the time I've heard it, it's all been said. PS: While shopping for CDs south of the USA, but in Canada (but with the USA between me and Alaska -- go look at a map) I came across a CD by a UK band that goes by the name of Sharkboy. I bought the Mutton Birds instead, for $3 (that's $2 US!). I'd never have done that if not for this list. PPS: Terry, I didn't mail your package from there. Soon, soon! Shawm, - -- Ross ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1999 20:34:27 -0600 From: ultraconformist@mail.weboffices.com Subject: Re: the devil and other quail relatives >Melissa and I are now addicted to Momus, her even more so than me. We >added THE ULTRACONFORMIST and the amazing PHILOSOPHY OF MOMUS to the >collection while in New York, but WE MUST BUY MORE MOMUS IMPORTS. I blame >Susan Dodge as much as I blame the media and the devil. I do have this way of sharing (read: pounding unfortunate people on the head) when I make a musical discovery. I'm glad you like "Philosophy" so much. It's actually my least favorite, which is still pretty good- I mean, this is like saying I like chocolate ice cream less than french vanilla with cherries, ya know? It's a very strong album (more so than LRS I think) but it doesn't grab me as much as some others. I'd be interested to see what you think of "Hippopotomomus" when you get the chance to hear it. I'm really fond of it, but that's because I love Momus- "Hippopotomomus" is like Momus in a concentrated dose, everything even his critics admit he does well and everything people object to most about him are present in really high doses. It's sort of.... it's chock full of MOMOSITY the way that say, "Tropical Flesh Mandala" and "Victorian Squid" are totally full of ROBYNOSITY. I remember once that we had a discussion on the list about what songs were most "Robyn-like", which is of course not to say, what songs talk about sea creatures or insects the most, but rather, which have the highest concentration of, er, Robynosity? Which are things that only one person in the world could ever have come up with, that one person being RH? Any thoughts? Is there a unit of measure for Robynosity? The thoth? If we're talking albums, IMO probably "Globe of Frogs" rates highest. Love on ya, Susan ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1999 22:34:02 -0400 (EDT) From: dmw Subject: drum solos trilok gurtu (with the john mclaughlin band) was pretty fucking incredible. played trap drums and a host of percussion instruments -- many of which i'd never seen/heard before...one one of his breaks, he sounded like an interlude between storm cells in a tropical forest. but his stuff was more compositional in nature than "wow, look what i can do, tech wizardry" the sun ra arkestra had *two* trap drummers and a host of percussionists. less a "solo" than a percussion orchestra sort of effect -- i mean, i guess you wouldn't count gamelan, would you? so maybe i should strike this one. but you should've seen it, really. the crimso sextet has already been mentioned... my, but you've been a prolific little bunch over the last handful of days... - -- d. np quasi _featuring birds_ ...if i wanted microsoft outlook, i would have *installed* it... - - "seventeen!" cried the humbug, always first with the wrong answer. - - oh no!! you've just read mail from doug = dmw@radix.net dmw@mwmw.com - - get yr pathos:www.pathetic-caverns.com -- books, flicks, tunes, etc. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1999 19:46:19 -0700 (PDT) From: S Dwarf Subject: Re: eb all over the world ultraconformist@mail.weboffices.com wrote: > Longtime fans: did you ever hear any of these [GD > trax] live? Inquiring minds want to know. i seem to remember him and the egyptians doing "Grooving on an inner plane" at The Edge in Palo Alto CA in summer 1992. had the audience do the "Wangbo'"s. wished us none of our presidential candidates be elected. it was the same week as lollapalooza, where he apparently took maisie, as i remember Mo interviewing him on Live 105 attending the show. she was there to see Ministry. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1999 20:02:31 -0800 From: gondola@deltanet.com Subject: Eb, the invisible genius? Hi Fgz... Flipping through four days/160 emails' worth of backlog at a friend's place. Yikes. I'm using Mailstart, and quoting text is cumbersome, but some comments: 1. Macha: didn't know they were E6-related. I just got a copy of their upcoming Jetset album a day or two ago, and while I haven't played much of it, what I did hear sounded like the Cure with a heavy dose of Moroccan wiggle. Didn't make me think of the E6 sound at all. Huh. Probably not a keeper. 2. Mongolian BBQ: one of the few foods/cuisines which really turns me on. Most food gets kind of an "ehhh" from me. Which is partly why I'm such a lousy date. But if you're ever in Fullerton, do check out the "Mad Wolf" restaurant, at Harbor Blvd. and Imperial Highway. ;) 3. Odd to see Terrence making a bold challenge to the throne of Feglist Robyn-naysayer. But I think his agenda was badly weakened, when he simultaneously claimed that Donovan and Tomita records were among the greatest releases of all time. Oops. 4. Imperial Bedroom: my favorite Costello album, and probably in my top 30-40 favorite albums ever. Better than any RH release, I'd say. Even Underwater Moonlight. Always thought Trust was somewhat overrated, however. 5. I'm mildly concerned at the revelation that Geocities claims the copyright/distribution rights on my tribute site. Could Eddie's heartfelt testimony to my wonders be co-opted by Corporate America? Will some faceless drudge ruthlessly take over the site's maintenance? 5. Any of you indie mavens (Ken, Aaron, etc.) heard of a group called Octant? I hear they have an album coming up on, well, Up. And that their music is played by ROBOTS?? 6. No, I still don't have Jewels for Sophia yet. You all scooped me. 7. Wading through a massive backlog of CDs right now. Not much exciting, however. Sounds like Superchunk added a few new wrinkles with this album. Regarding Phil Ochs, I just bought a used copy of Eugene Chadbourne's rare-ish "Corpses of Foreign War" last night, which includes four different Ochs songs buried in medleys. BTW: album backup is by two Violent Femmes, if you don't know. Also heard Nilsson's "Pussy Cats" for the first time, via the new Buddha reissue. Seems like Neil's "Tonight's the Night" -- a just-OK album, which gains resonance and acclaim only because of the record's backstory. Hrm. The first track is excellent in this context, however -- odd how it pirates the melody of Lennon's "#9 Dream," even though it's allegedly a Jimmy Cliff cover. New Beefheart reissues of Safe as Milk and The Mirror Man Sessions on Buddha are godlike -- much improved sound over previous versions. I'm gonna toss my copy of I May Be Hungry But I Sure Ain't Weird, or whatever it's called. No longer need it. All those tracks are included as bonus tracks on the Buddha reissues, with superior sound. 8. Someone wrote, "She's a little beaten up, but she gets around." And, "But now I realize that it's more like I have many lovers...I mean, loves....What I mean is, there's plenty of me to go around...." Huh. 9. I had a hella night, last night. Drove up to L.A., to see what was earlier billed as the reunited Go-Betweens. Nope, it was just Forster and McLennan, performing alone. Drat. I might not have even gone, if I had known. Go-Betweens tunes threaten to fade into the dreaded Blandies, minus those violins and oboes 'n' things. Thus, the set was pretty, but awfully tedious. Everything sounded exactly alike. Struck by how Sam Waterston-esque Forster is. THEN...I started driving back home. First, this required several miles of driving surface streets through L.A., to get to the 101. About *one block* before finally reaching the freeway, I was forced to drive through a hella pothole...WHAM. Car seemed to be steering funny after that, so I pulled into a gas station to take a look. *Sort of* looked flat, but not really. A slow leak, at best. But since I still had 25 miles of freeway driving ahead of me, I opted to change it. Which is also a problem, because those little "donut" spares don't tolerate much speed, and I'm destined for the freeway. Ended up changing the tire in a 24-hour Home Depot at like 1:30 in the morning, and cut the sh*t out of my right index fingertip on the jack. Car grease and open wounds...not a good match. Oh, and the aforementioned gas station was in such a lovely location that shortly after parking, two women got into the car parked next to me and drove away. Two svelt women in overdone makeup, shiny purses, ridiculous high heels, hot pants, etc. You get the picture. 10. No word from Comp USA yet, about the order/repair process. Making due, writing on my trusty Apple IIE. Woo...going lo-fi. Eb, also counting down to July 16th np: "I, Claudine," starring Brian Blessed as Andy Williams, Ben Affleck as Spider Sabich and a ludicrously accented Sandra Bullock as the titular namesake - ----- Sent using MailStart.com ( http://MailStart.Com/welcome.html ) The FREE way to access your mailbox via any web browser, anywhere! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1999 20:13:52 -0700 From: Mark_Gloster@3com.com Subject: Re: Sharkboy rides again... oh, and little bitches who don't send tapes... and dum solas >Charqueboie* just said all the stuff I was going to say about Robyn >that wasn't already said about Robyn when Joel asked why we don't >go on about, um, Robyn. Yea, me too. He always takes the words right out of my fingers. >Someone else, (Susan?) said that Robyn was the one she kept going >back to. Yeah, me too. Me too. I wonder if some of this has something to do with all of you. Without gushing or getting all oozy 'n' shit, I probably have a feeling of communing with friendly fegs who are uniquely able to understand the joy of Hitchcockian delights by listening to said delights. Of course I wouldn't do if the music was bad. Yea, I know, I sound like some kinda "tree-huggin' hippy crap." >I've got 20 Robyn legitimate releases on CD, 9 RH thingies on CD, >a couple of cassettes, and some other stuff. The only artist I >have more of is FZ.... Same here. You are scaring me. Dolph, are you in this "club" too? Actually, Ross and I have some amazing similarities. Not the least of which is the fact that both of us can make you cry with a cello- but for very, very different reasons. - ---- On another subject: Bitches who don't send tapes: 1) Jon, I'm not a bitch, really. I'm just slow. By the way, someone you know gave me the true facts about who your on-list friends are, and I'm sure you don't want everyone to know what kind of company you keep when you are in this country. 2) There are some wonderful fegs who haven't gotten around to sending me MD's, CD's, tapes, brief cases filled with unmarked $100.00 bills, undergarments, winnebagos, whatever, of whom I just can't think bad thoughts. 3) There is actually no third thing. It's just one of those listing things that if I put down the first two, I need to add the third. It's kind of like having an anchovy-raisin pizza without a buttermilk daiquori with which to wash it down, and some chocolate-covered Skoal or Peanut butter and bubblegum for afters. The brain demands this sort of emotional symmetry. - ---- Drum solas: I saw Phil Collins, Bill Bruford, and Chester Thompson play a trio drum bit. By themselves they are each among my favorite drummers. Bill Bruford, who had previously briefly toured with Genesis, and was guesting with them, as he was only there for a gig with Crimson, sucked with the whole 4/4 thing that Phil and Chester were crackin'. I've seen that Carl Palmer drum sola about 5 times, and it is always the same, yet looks more comical and caricaturish each time. Probably my favorite drum solos have come from Bill Bruford and Chad Wackerman. Terry Bozzio and Vinnie Colaiuta are not far behind. It is difficult to do a serious drum solo in this post-prog time without looking really embarassing. I saw Alex Van Halen do a many- minute thing once that made me wish that I was anywhere else. A lot of people get misty-eyed about John Bonham, but I couldn't stand the way he tuned his drums, let alone played 'em. I think drum solas need a certain "conceptual continuity," and to be extremely musical for me to keep from getting all creeped out by them. A friend of mine with even less tolerance for mushy, romantic, and poorly-written ballads has been known to yell "DRUM SOLO!!!" right in the middle of the tune when some teary-eyed Jackson Brown- wannabe is singing. Y'know, I guess there really is a reasonable context for loud drum solos. - ---- I'm sure that's enough out of me. Happy 2nd of July! - -Markg ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V8 #230 *******************************