From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V8 #219 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Friday, June 25 1999 Volume 08 : Number 219 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: slayter-kinney / vpn / the dog & pony show [Aaron Mandel ] Fegbooks, Menace, Nerds & Tom Waits ["she.rex" ] robyn in las vegas?! [**twofangs** {randi} ] Re: bugs vs fish [Jon Fetter ] Re: ya - I'm still awake - but interesting robyn content {imho} [Jon Fett] greg brown ["chad leahy" ] Re: Eb [ultraconformist@mail.weboffices.com] Re: Minus 5 on the radio [ultraconformist@mail.weboffices.com] Re: Revenge of the Nerds '99 [ultraconformist@mail.weboffices.com] Paris, France etc. ["jbranscombe@compuserve.com" ] Re: greg brown [Tom Clark ] Re: greg brown [g ] Re: greg brown [Tom Clark ] Hitchcock Downunder (not really Kristen Hersh news at all) [Martin_Bell@i] or, his jape slew fop... ["jbranscombe@compuserve.com" ] Re: Psychedelic Loveletter? [Bayard ] Re: i never realized this before... [Michael R Godwin ] Re: classification [Michael R Godwin ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 14:05:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Aaron Mandel Subject: Re: slayter-kinney / vpn / the dog & pony show On Wed, 2 Jun 1999, Aaron Mandel wrote: > i'm guessing this is the same Very Pleasant Neighbor who my freshman > roommate tried to get me into. my faded memory is that the CD they had > out back then sounded like the worst parts of Laurie Anderson and King > Missile put together. (don't hold me to that.) no doubt time has > changed them. anyway, there is at least that one other album. nope! public retraction time. the irritating band in question was "Velvet Cactus Society". their record seems even lamer now than it did then. Very Pleasant Neighbor did put out an EP in 1994, and i like it. sorry for the confusion. a ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 19:16:26 +0100 From: "Tony Blackman" Subject: 29A, the Hexadecimal of the Beast jbj said; > yeah, so what clever alternate title is Robyn gonna come up with for the > outtakes album? methinks he should use an anagram, seeing as how he's such > a fan of them: > > WHO IS JASPER FLOE? Jowl of Pharisees Jasper, we foolish Safer Jewish Polo? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 13:29:54 -0500 From: "JH3" Subject: Re: JFS news from ICE >yeah, so what clever alternate title is Robyn gonna come up with for the >outtakes album? methinks he should use an anagram... JAIL OF HORSE SPEW? REW FEARS POLISH OJ? This could go on for a while... - -JH "FOWLER SOAPIES" 3 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 15:06:21 From: "she.rex" Subject: Fegbooks, Menace, Nerds & Tom Waits Hello all! I know it's a long time overdue but the FegBooks page has been updated again. And this time I've added a last updated line at the very top so you know if there's anything recent or not. Thanks for your recommendations - keep them coming! I *am* here and reading the list daily - just too busy to post most of the time. Saw Phantom Menace twice already. Nothing to add, really, except this was a good action-type Star Wars movie and fun if you let yourself be a kid again - which is what I was when the first one came out, so it's nostalgic. Would like to have seen more character development - esp. of Neeson's character and Darth Maul, but it was alright without it. Wasn't expecting anything deep or Shakespearean from Lucas anyhow. And the beautiful sets and costumes saved it for me. I'd love to live in that city! Well, unless of course it was under siege by large toads and mindless droids, anyway. And I liked the sea monsters. Overall it was entertaining. Didn't see the Apple vs Microsoft tv movie but I almost feel like I have after years of hearing about the subject and now reading your reviews. I think that was a better use of two hours. And BTW - thanks for the Waits recommendation, Eb - got Mule Variations about 3 weeks ago and love it! Hasn't been out of my changer since. Whee (tm)! I have some of his other stuff but hadn't decided what of the bewildering array of musical choices to get next. She.Rex - ----------------- I Do the Rock by Tim Curry (annotated by Linda Fletcher) The Sports Verse Baby Ruth and Dizzy Dean Best and Colin Caudre Little Mo, Virginia Wade Pistol Pete and O.J. I always liked Di Maggio and Rockne's pretty Knute you know I could never whack a ball with such velocity I do the Rock I do the Rock Rock (When I can get it) (Its stimulating!) - --Baby Ruth & Dizzy Dean are baseball. - --George Best was an international level soccer - --player for Manchester United. - --Colin Caudry was an international level English cricketer. - --Maureen Connolly and Virginia Wade are - --championship level British tennis players. - --Pistol Pete Maravich for basketball - --OJ is more famous now for the sport of murder. - --Di Maggio is baseball. - --Knute Rockne was the football coach at Notre Dame. - -----All these sports people were also as famous off court as on. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 15:13:20 -0400 From: **twofangs** {randi} Subject: robyn in las vegas?! Hhhmmm... Flights from Toronto to Las Vegas can be pretty cheap. I've been to Las Vegas {with my parents and sister} as a *treat* following a difficult surgery / 8 months in hospital. I think it was 1996. I didn't want to go -- I thought gambling and pumping oxygen into casinos was disgusting. Well, I still do...but {there's always a but} Las Vegas is like Disney Land for adults. Of course, it didn't hurt that all my slot machine-nickel betting paid off big time. Presents for everyone...food...taxis...and I only ended up spending $10.00 American. I've also {I think} been to "The Joint" where Robyn is playing. If I'm not mistaken - and please let me know if I'm wrong - I think "The Joint" is inside The Hard Rock Hotel. When I was in Vegas, the Hard Rock Hotel had only been open for a few months...but I snuck into their concert theatre {not open to the public - - well - you know me - and I dragged my sister in there with me - tee-hee-hee} Not to go on about the Hard Rock Hotel and the venue The Joint or gambling -- but their slot machines had "Sex Pistols," "The Clash," and tons of cool bands I can't remember now -- instead of what I always had imagined slot machines were like -- I assumed {for some reason} that fruit dominated. . Well, it's like that on tv - and tv is always right. Being brainwashed as I write...I'll just fade back into yesterday before tomorrow comes, Randi *what scares you most will set you free* -- Robyn H. {imagine there being a Robyn slot machine -- I'd probably lose every penny I own -- but the joy...3 robyns...and you win :-} ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 03:18:10 +0800 From: Jon Fetter Subject: Re: bugs vs fish >On the other hand, his new songs are LOADED with references to insects, >including a great number relating to drones. All I can say is that some well-placed words ("Uh, thanks for all the insect songs.") and weekly prayers for bug songs have had results. Looks like I'll have a heavy debt of sugar water to pay to the Bee King. Jonzzzzzz __________________________________________________________________ No moa, no moa, In old Ao-tea-roa. Can't get 'em. They've et 'em; They've gone and there ain't no moa! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 03:15:35 +0800 From: Jon Fetter Subject: Re: ya - I'm still awake - but interesting robyn content {imho} >The pic is the chinese character for entropy. The character is pronounced "shong "in Mandarin and if you say it like a short bell toll you'll get the tone right. "...the universe is based on sullen entropy" would be "yu jou shr yi jyu you yu de shong" minus the tones. "Damn entropy!" would be "ke wu de shong!" Yeah, I know, nobody asked, but my babelfish was bored. Jong PS: Thanks to all for their restraint in their posts about "The Phantom Menace." It opens here in Taiwan tomorrow night at 12:01 am, and I still know very little about the storyline except that it's "great for 12 year-olds." ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 15:30:40 -0500 From: "chad leahy" Subject: greg brown every list i'm on is *extremely* slow today. everyone else must actually work when they're at work. ;) on a side note, any greg brown fans out there? chad m. leahy "art and dreaming are the windows of our race. close them and we suffocate." - robyn hitchcock now playing: greg brown, the poet game ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 15:40:20 -0600 From: ultraconformist@mail.weboffices.com Subject: Re: Eb >I have not received it. Actually, I inquired about it this very day, and >was told the label is currently out of 'em. Hedblade has one. Apparently he is more special than you, but less special than Michael K. :). I asked him about it last night, and he says what he got was a plain-cover review copy whose sleeve bears no resemblance to a ping-pong paddle. Love on ya, Susan ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 15:45:00 -0600 From: ultraconformist@mail.weboffices.com Subject: Re: Minus 5 on the radio >Scott McCaughey, Ken Stringfellow and Robyn all played live on GLR today. >They played Dolphin Boy - a new minus 5 track - with Scott on vocals, Camera Wait, wait......Robyn is an official member of the Minus Five? Or was he guesting with them? Color me confused. Love on ya, Susan ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 15:30:15 -0600 From: ultraconformist@mail.weboffices.com Subject: Re: Revenge of the Nerds '99 >really the point. My feeling is that when people say things like this, >it scares off the talented and creative people who might otherwise >be willing to risk a few million bucks to develop the stuff, and >plays right into the hands of people like Bill Gates, who can afford >to throw lots of money at speculative development, just in case >the market really is there. Your earlier paragraph makes mention of the fact that things people say on the fegmaniax list are not going to impact this much one way or the other. I think you are probably right about that. In any event, "smart homes" are already in motion, with Microsoft, Apple, Sony, and Sun already joining in the fray (and this folks, is a soap opera and chess game combined, as we watch who is negotiating with whom to develop what). The aforementioned "talented and creative people" have probably already been scared off, since they'd have no doubt read about this. Love on ya, Susan ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 17:01:28 -0400 From: "jbranscombe@compuserve.com" Subject: Paris, France etc. Bonjour and Yahoo! I'm off to see the 27th AND 28th Frogland shows. I'm not a taper so I'll have to regale with my wizardly wordsmithery when I return. I'll get set-lists never fear. Au revoir. jmbc. P.S. She.Rex. It's Colin 'Kipper' Cowdrey, a good bat (7,624 Test runs at 44.06) and a very fine slip fielder (I love to chuck a bit of cricket jargon when I know it's prime-time Yank-o-Vision) . Maureen Connolly was one of your own (since when have we had good tennis players?) and I believe OJ was acquitted... (I wouldn't like to have been on the list when that one was being wrestled over). P.P.S. Jews For Psychedelia. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 16:14:55 -0500 From: "chad leahy" Subject: Re: greg brown >> >> "art and dreaming are the windows of our >> race. close them and we suffocate." >> - robyn hitchcock > >where's that quote from? i don't have the cd here, but if i remember correctly, it's from the "uncorrected personality traits" cd booklet. chad ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 14:58:59 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: greg brown On 6/24/99 1:30 PM, chad leahy wrote: >every list i'm on is *extremely* slow >today. everyone else must actually work >when they're at work. ;) I'm actually on vacation but at work anyway, just to geek around and take a shower. My bathroom at home is being remodeled. > >on a side note, any greg brown fans out there? I've heard him a few times on the radio and really enjoy his stuff. If I had any of his albums they would probably go somewhere in the vicinity of Iris Dement and Robert Earl Keen. - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 15:16:52 -0700 (PDT) From: g Subject: Re: greg brown On Thu, 24 Jun 1999, Tom Clark wrote: >I've heard him a few times on the radio and really enjoy his stuff. If I >had any of his albums they would probably go somewhere in the vicinity of >Iris Dement and Robert Earl Keen. How do you sort your albums? By style/genre? Cheers! - -Glen- "Time is never wasted when you're wasted all the time." - --source unknown Glen Uber | uberg@sonic.net | http://www.sonic.net/~uberg ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 15:28:32 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: greg brown On 6/24/99 3:16 PM, g wrote: >How do you sort your albums? By style/genre? Very loosely. I have CD storage in several places throughout the house, so things are in clusters. The only defined order is chronological within artist. Oh, and offshoots go with the band, e.g., Frank Black/Breeders/Amps go with Pixies, Paul Leary/Jackofficers go with Butthole Surfers, etc... - -t "kinda anal, in a cutely eccentric kinda way" c ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 10:58:48 +1200 From: Martin_Bell@idg.co.nz Subject: Hitchcock Downunder (not really Kristen Hersh news at all) Fegsters To add to James' earlier points about Storefront Hitchcock playing in NZ >I wrote: >>>(happy that Storefront is playing at the Dunedin Film Festival in August! >>Whee!) >and woj replied: >what? details! details! >It seems that Storefont is playing at the month-long series of >international film festivals held in the four main cities of NZ each year. >I knew it was playing in Wellington and Auckland, and I found out yesterday >that it will be played on August 4th at the Metropolis in Dunedin - two >sessions, not sure yet of the times, probably 2pm and 8pm, but music movies >are often put in the midnight slot, so one of them could be then. >Presumably it's also playing in Christchurch. I'll let the list know more >info if and when it comes to hand. Indeed, Storefront screens at the Auckland International Film Festival on 23rd & 25th July and the Wellington International Film Festival on 29th July & 1st August. I've got free tickets to one of the Auckland screenings, becasue I wrote the blurb for both the Auckland and Wellington festival catalogues. >Sadly, we won't be getting Robyn himself, although he is, I believe, going to Sydney when Storefront plays at the equivalent Australian film festivals. In a fit of entrepreneurial zest, I've been endeavouring to contact Robyn and/or his management to see if there was any possibility of him making the trip downunder for the festivals. Alas, his Nth American tour commitments have ruled the out the immediate possibility of such a visit. Robyn was in Australia recently, but as fate would have it, by the time I got in touch with someone in the know, Robyn was already Northern Hemisphere-bound, ruling out any chance of a quick jaunt across the Tasman Sea. Thanks anyway to James, Bayard and David Greenberger (from the Museum of RH) who helped with my enquiries Martin (who's temporarily back in fegland while Chalkhills is on holiday, who shares a birthday with Capuchin and who just noticed that "entropy" is listed immediately after "entrepreneur" in his Collins English Dictionary) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 19:06:38 -0400 From: "jbranscombe@compuserve.com" Subject: or, his jape slew fop... Sept 6th is the latest UK release date I'm not holding my breath for... Bon nuit. jmbc ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 19:20:32 -0400 From: "jbranscombe@compuserve.com" Subject: Hitchcock Downunder In a teensy-weensy way I might be able to claim some credit for the NZ showings of Storefront... At the London Film Festival showing I was sitting next to the programmer for one of the NZ bashes. She didn't know Robyn from Adam. But I set to work (well, I think Robyn's personal appearance and performance on film might have had something to do with it) recommended a little starter pack: Underwater Moonlight, IODOT, Element, Respect and there you have it....She left saying that she was definitely going to get the film for her shindig. Perhaps she told her mates as well. jmbc. Missionary Zealot Elvis ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 01:41:05 GMT From: dwdudic@erols.com (David W. Dudich) Subject: teddy T Yes, Teddy is in fact the son of Richard and Linda Thompson. Was this an acoustic show, or was it a full RT Band show? A lot of us are really happy that TT is touring in his fathers band. Apparently, he can Nail a lot of his mom's vocal harmonies... -luther On Tue, 22 Jun 1999 14:30:26 -0400 (EDT), you wrote: >Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 17:03:53 -0800 >From: bibigellert@earthlink.net >Subject: Teddy Thompson > >Once again I turn to the experts on the Fegmaniax list. Sunday >night I was fortunate enough to see Richard Thompson play an >extremely small club in Atlanta. It was a wonderful show, and >featured his son Teddy. A friend who came with me, who is a >big fan of Richard's, was curious about Teddy-is he Linda's son, >or not? I told him I would ask the Fegs. > >Thanks in advance. > >Bibi G ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 23:32:29 EDT From: JudeHayden@aol.com Subject: Psychedelic Loveletter? Hey Feggy Puddins- Forgive me if this has already been discussed, but I can't possibly keep up with everything, you know... I just picked up a cd by Loveletter the other day called "Beethoven Chopin Kitchen Fraud", which features a lot of groovy covers of 60's pop tunes, but imagine my surprise when I see a song called "Psychedelic Love" credited to Robyn Hitchcock! My question is, whence and from when comes this song? It sounds like it's probably Soft Boys era... I've looked over all my "unofficial" Robyn stuff, and I don't see this track anywhere... most curious. Anyway, I recommend the cd whether you're a die-hard Robyn cover collector or not. The song "Penelope" alone is worth the $12 you'd pay for it. See ya- Jude ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 23:27:17 -0500 From: steve Subject: Caution, SW 1 spoiler (NR) http://home.uleth.ca/~pollej/sideous.jpg - - Steve _______________ We're all Jesus, Buddha, and the Wizard of Oz! - Andy Partridge ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 12:14:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Bayard Subject: Re: Psychedelic Loveletter? > I just picked up a cd by Loveletter the other day called "Beethoven Chopin > Kitchen Fraud", which features a lot of groovy covers of 60's pop tunes, but > imagine my surprise when I see a song called "Psychedelic Love" credited to > Robyn Hitchcock! it *is* soft boys-era, iirc, i think it is also mentioned in the hamilton discography under "unreleased tracks." how is it? my soft boys unreleased stuff is disorganized and, of course, not very clear sounding. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 18:58:39 +0100 (BST) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: i never realized this before... On Tue, 22 Jun 1999, four episode lesbian wrote: > anyone ever hear the really early waves stuff? i.e., the waves before robyn > swiped kimberley away to fill out the soft boys? You need to ask Nick Winkworth - if he's still out there somewhere. - - Mike Godwin ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 19:09:44 +0100 (BST) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: classification On Fri, 14 May 1999, Ross Overbury wrote: > I've got classical, international, reggae/calypso, rock/pop, > blues and jazz categories. Music is filed by artist in the section that best > describes most of the music I own made by that artist. Jeez, it's not > all that futile! > Hey, where do I file Roni Size/Reprazent? They go in drums'n'bass, but in the wacky section of drums'n'bass assigned to bands who use acoustic drums'n'bass but with electronics on top. ... Oh, you haven't got a drums'n'bass section - in that case re-file everything in strict alphabetical order, starting from the first word of the name (so that, for example, Robyn Hitchcock comes after Robin Williamson and before Robyn Hitchcock and the Egyptians). Roni Size will go a few places to the right. Foolproof! except for samplers. - - Mike Godwin ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V8 #219 *******************************