From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V8 #215 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Tuesday, June 22 1999 Volume 08 : Number 215 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Kristen Hersh news [mrrunion@palmnet.net] Re: Kristen Hersh news [g ] Re: Kristen Hersh news [mrrunion@palmnet.net] Star Wars [Capitalism Blows ] Skip Spence -- "Seeing" [The Great Quail ] Revenge of the Nerds '99 [g ] Re: Revenge of the Nerds '99 [Capuchin ] Re: Revenge of the Nerds '99 [Joel Mullins ] Re: Star Wars [Bayard ] Re: chai tea pronunsciation [Bayard ] Teddy Thompson [bibigellert@earthlink.net] Re: Revenge of the Nerds '99 [michelle wiener ] hey! [ultraconformist@mail.weboffices.com] address book alert! new email addy [amadain ] Re: More on the quailspiracy and my high school years [four episode lesb] Re: Teddy Thompson [Eric Loehr ] Re: More on the quailspiracy and my high school years [Ross Overbury ] quarrymen [Capitalism Blows ] Re: fegbooks update [David Librik ] Return of the Quail(spiracy) [dlang ] Re: gotta let this hen out video question [Michael R Godwin ] Re: Return of the Quail(spiracy) [Capitalism Blows ] Re: Revenge of the Nerds '99 [West ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 13:57 +0000 From: mrrunion@palmnet.net Subject: Kristen Hersh news Hey all, Regarding Kristen Hersh... For any of you KH fans out there, you probably already know her new album *Sky Motel* should be out in early July here in the States (earlier in the UK). Anyway, the first single "Echo" is out (on import..urgh) and is backed with two interesting covers, Nirvana's "Pennyroyal Tea" and the Beatles' "Everybody's Got Something To Hide Except For Me And My Monkey". Regarding NMH apparel... I wore my NMH shirt to work last Friday...the one with the kid's head and something about maggots. Needless to say, I attended a few meetings I wasn't expecting and I got dragged into a last-minute session with a very-much-higher-up. I now can imagine what well-endowed women must put up with...people talking to me, but their eyes continuously falling to my chest. It was pretty hysterical actually. Finally, I got cornered by a much-older colleague who simply had to know what it meant. This was even worse than when I wear my upside-down duck RH shirt! Speaking of shirts, this reminds me of the joy I used to get out of wearing an old Front 242 shirt. It said "No Sex Until Marraige" on the front, which a lot of fundamentalist-type people liked and would openly come up to me and comment on. Then they'd read the back "You Deserve To Go To Hell". Juvenile, I know...but what the hey... Mike n.p. Sparklehorse - Good Morning Spider ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 12:22:53 -0700 (PDT) From: g Subject: Re: Kristen Hersh news On Mon, 21 Jun 1999 mrrunion@palmnet.net wrote (4 times): >Subject: Kristen Hersh news "I repeat myself when I'm distressed..." Cheers! - -Glen- "Time is never wasted when you're wasted all the time." - --source unknown Glen Uber | uberg@sonic.net | http://www.sonic.net/~uberg ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 14:42 +0000 From: mrrunion@palmnet.net Subject: Re: Kristen Hersh news Whoops! Sorry...there must have been a quail caught in the gears. Mike (stuck using a crappy web-based email system at work due to a paranoid ISP) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 14:26:02 PDT From: Capitalism Blows Subject: Star Wars it's really *not* that big of a deal, in the final analysis. i mean, nobody really gives a fuck, when it gets right down to it. but, right now is exactly the time when multiplexes would be cutting back on the number of screens on which the movie is shown. it's dropped to number four in the box office rankings, it dropped below $20 mil. for this last weekend (despite the efforts of some people to go and see it five times in one day, or whatever, on saturday). it's losing a healthy 30+% of its receipts every week. but lucas locked them into this deal, and now they've got to keep showing the movie on two or three screens for *seven* more weeks. i just think it's hilarious, is all. i'm somewhat distressed that robyn has been given third billing, behind sebadoh, on this tour. oh, well. _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 18:03:12 -0400 From: The Great Quail Subject: Skip Spence -- "Seeing" Griffith davies, >Robert Plant, Beck, Tom Waits and the Minus Five >(which includes R.E.M.'s Peter Buck) have recorded >tracks for "More Oar," a song-by-song re-creation of >the 1969 cult-classic psychedelic album "Oar" by >former Jefferson Airplane and Moby Grape drummer Skip >Spence, who died in April. Oh, yeah, and about Skip Spence . . . . During one of my all-too-frequent recent classical music rants, I recommended the American composer Christopher Rouse, who writes very complex, usually dissonant, and often harrowing pieces as influenced by rock music as by Shostakovich, and often focuses on the always-fun theme of death. LJ and I recently attended his new work, a piano concerto called "Seeing," which presents itself as a descent into madness -- particularly insanity as it may be apprehended by a musician. It was inspired by Skip Spence, whose song "Seeing" provided Rouse with the title, and musically takes some inspiration from not only Moby Grape but from Robert Schumann, the German Romantic composer who also went a bit crazy and was also institutionalized. ("But Mom, I just wanted a Pepsi.") Anyway, it was a great piece, very dark and original, but has yet to be recorded on CD -- although it most certainly will be. I wrote a half-assed review of it for the evil digital rag known as Fashion Planet. Those interested in Skip Spence, Christopher Rouse, modern classical; or possibly just wanting to see why Eb doesn't need to fear for his job as a music critic, may turn to: http://www.fp1.com/sept98/columns/arts/rouse/rouse.html for a laugh. This shameless self-promotion and classical music plug has been brought to you by the letter - --Q +---------+---------+---------+---------+---------+---------+---------+ The Great Quail, K.S.C. (riverrun Discordian Society, Kibroth-hattaavah Branch) For fun with postmodern literature, New York vampires, and Fegmania, visit Sarnath: http://www.rpg.net/quail "The people asked, and he brought quails, and satisfied them with the bread of heaven." --Psalms 105:40 (Also see Exodus 16:13 and Numbers 11:31-34 for more starry wisdom) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 15:13:44 -0700 (PDT) From: g Subject: Revenge of the Nerds '99 fegs, Any thoughts on TNT's "Pirates of Silicon Valley" that aired last night? Cheers! - -Glen- "Time is never wasted when you're wasted all the time." - --source unknown Glen Uber | uberg@sonic.net | http://www.sonic.net/~uberg ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 15:42:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: Revenge of the Nerds '99 On Mon, 21 Jun 1999, g wrote: > Any thoughts on TNT's "Pirates of Silicon Valley" that aired last night? Rather dumbed down. Not as accurate or interesting as Triumph of the Nerds. HOWEVER! The characterizations seemed spot on. At least physically, everbody looked great. While the words they were saying were sometimes idiotic, the flavor was right to me. I can't believe how much Noah Wyle (or however that's spelt) looked like Steve Jobs a few times there. Bill Gates didn't swear enough. He wasn't angry enough. But maybe that's a new twist on his personality. He was always testy and volatile the few times I saw him a few years ago. Steve Balmer was dead on. I mean perfect. He's dumb and noisy and spirited and just like a big dumb jockboy. He's crazy and will do anything for a buck. Personally, I think he's a sleazeball, but I can also see how a certain segment of the population looks up to him. Never actually been around any of the Apple bigshots, so I can't say much about them, but they sure looked right. I loved the direct correspondence between the 1984 commercial and billg up on the big screen in Boston fifteen years later. It made me remember how much I was wishing someone would run up and fling a sledgehammer from the aisle during that talk. It didn't show the nastier side of Microsoft (like how they actually demo'd QDOS to IBM before having the rights to it) or the little things that make them ignorant rather than evil (like how everybody there has never worked anywhere else and simply doesn't know that their business practices are illegal). It showed how everybody stole from everybody else, but didn't explain that what Apple reverse-engineered from PARC didn't actually work when PARC showed it off (I mean to say that Apple reverse-engineered a product that didn't exist... in the case of 2.5D display, anyway). Yes, it was obviously rewritten for a general audience and left out some interesting things and made for some stupid lines... but overall, it was interesting to see it all dramatized. It's sort of like what Roger Ebert said about Robert Downey, Jr. in Attenborough's Chaplin, "He was ready to play the part in any film that got made... it's just too bad it had to be this one." I'd love to use the same cast in a better telling of the story. Just some words. J. - -- ________________________________________________________ J A Brelin Capuchin ________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 17:38:02 -0700 From: Joel Mullins Subject: Re: Revenge of the Nerds '99 g wrote: > > fegs, > > Any thoughts on TNT's "Pirates of Silicon Valley" that aired last night? I watched the first 15 minutes. I didn't think it was very coherent or interesting. The writing was bad and the acting was worse. So, I switched over to the Brian Wilson Biography on A & E. Of course, I only saw the first 15 minutes. Joel ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 19:23:24 -0400 (EDT) From: Bayard Subject: Re: Star Wars > > it's really *not* that big of a deal, in the final analysis. i mean, nobody > really gives a fuck, when it gets right down to it. for those who do, esp. Titanic-haters, (and I know there are a few of you), a fiend of mine send me this: http://www.the-movie-times.com/thrsdir/titanicVSmenace.html it's not a joke or anything, it's "the final analysis". np. the kennedys _life is large_ =b ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 19:33:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Bayard Subject: Re: chai tea pronunsciation > Mark> "Gimme sumdat there salsa sauce." Herein the requestor > Mark> pronounces the first "a" in "salsa" like the one in "apple." > > But one does; they're both an IPA 'ash'... not to dispute the master, but www.m-w.com disagrees; it says "O" as (aw) in law or "a-umlaut" as "o" in mop. Perhaps a US/UK thing. and let's not forget "Rio Grande River!" =b ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 17:03:53 -0800 From: bibigellert@earthlink.net Subject: Teddy Thompson Once again I turn to the experts on the Fegmaniax list. Sunday night I was fortunate enough to see Richard Thompson play an extremely small club in Atlanta. It was a wonderful show, and featured his son Teddy. A friend who came with me, who is a big fan of Richard's, was curious about Teddy-is he Linda's son, or not? I told him I would ask the Fegs. Thanks in advance. Bibi G - ----- Sent using MailStart.com ( http://MailStart.Com/welcome.html ) The FREE way to access your mailbox via any web browser, anywhere! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 20:13:39 -0400 From: michelle wiener Subject: Re: Revenge of the Nerds '99 g wrote: > fegs, > > Any thoughts on TNT's "Pirates of Silicon Valley" that aired last night? not nearly as riveting as a PBS/BBC documentary (i think called "revenge of the nerds?") i saw a few years ago. but i, too, appreciated the way it opened with the juxtaposing of the 1984 commercial with the Big Bro Bill conference. i'm one who's relatively clueless about the whole development of technology, and while i was able to follow the PBS/BBC doc, i didn't think "pirates" explained things enough. like, why IBM was so stupid to say, "sure, you can license DOS to us." i thought bill gates came off as much more sympathetic in this representation, particularly at the computer fair--how harsh must it have been to be dissed by another "nerd?" and he was so shamelessly portrayed as the Hero of the American Dream--doing it all "my way," as opposed to the hippie Liberal anti-establishment steve jobs, who refused to take responsibility for his own family. yes, that's reprehensible and inexcusable...but did that subplot have a place in the overall narrative? did i really need to see bill gates in a strip club? the exploitation/subordination (wish i could find different words, but i can't) of women is bound up in gross capitalism anyway, but i didn't see that subtext as something TNT did intentionally. more like a way to make these men seem more like "we have no lives" nerds. tangent alert: thanks for making me feel so welcome here. as for the cincinnati fegs that were mentioned earlier...quite a resounding recommendation, there. *grin* i think i'll take my chances on going solo. i'm off to see "austin powers" again. wasn't crazy about it the first time, but i think i need a 2nd viewing to make my mind up. i thought "phantom menace" improved on a second viewing (perhaps because i simply tuned out jarjar, but the finale of the dual still pissed me off), so who knows. cheers, michelle (who has a penchant for nerds) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 18:37:17 -0600 From: ultraconformist@mail.weboffices.com Subject: hey! Testing, testing, 1 2 5 testing! *dusting myself off and looking around* Looks like I got here OK. It would have helped if I had known a little earlier in the day that my address was actually at weboffices.com. What can I say, I am a goofus sometimes :). Anyway, the address you see above is the correct one, just take out the "mail" part to reply. Love on ya, Susan ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 16:33:21 -0600 From: amadain Subject: address book alert! new email addy Hey fegs! I'm going to be unsubscribing from the list, but hopefully for as short a time as possible. When I re-emerge, I will be: ultraconformist@aisnetwork.net Love on ya, Susan ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 22:11:55 -0400 From: four episode lesbian Subject: Re: More on the quailspiracy and my high school years >I got my third state quarter yesterday - New Jersey. It doesn't smell >anything different from the Pennsylvania or Delaware quarters. ba-da-dum. damn, i've been fixated on these things. i knew they were coming out, but completely forgot about them the cashier at our cafeteria gave me a delaware one back as change a few weeks ago. it was weird -- i instantly knew that it was different by feel (they're a bit smaller and have a different ridge on the edge) and ended up staring at it for a few minutes and backing up the line at the cash register. meredith spent five minutes prying the pennsylvania quarter out of the flat slot in the dryer at the laundromat for me. urgh. +w ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 22:42:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Eric Loehr Subject: Re: Teddy Thompson On Mon, 21 Jun 1999 bibigellert@earthlink.net wrote: > > Once again I turn to the experts on the Fegmaniax list. Sunday > night I was fortunate enough to see Richard Thompson play an > extremely small club in Atlanta. It was a wonderful show, and > featured his son Teddy. A friend who came with me, who is a > big fan of Richard's, was curious about Teddy-is he Linda's son, > or not? I told him I would ask the Fegs. > > Thanks in advance. > > Bibi G Yes, he is. Eric ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 22:39:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Ross Overbury Subject: Re: More on the quailspiracy and my high school years On Mon, 21 Jun 1999, four episode lesbian wrote: > damn, i've been fixated on these things. [pennsylvania quarters, that is -ro ] I got one this weekend, too! I mistook it for one of the Canadian provincial commemorative quarters. If you guys will fix the parking meters and coke machines to work with those new quarters, I could save a bundle on this summer's vacation. Yay! BTW, Elizabeth Morgan helped me out when I needed cello advice. YMMV. Oddly enough, my other feg cello consultant was Becky. Odd if the Becky is for Elizabeth, not if it's for Rebecca. Hey Jeme, when are you going to write that song about your NYC trip? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 22:55:03 -0400 From: four episode lesbian Subject: Re: Kristen Hersh news MC 900 Ft mrrunion@palmnet.net rapped: >For any of you KH fans out there, you probably already know her new album >*Sky Motel* should be out in early July here in the States (earlier in the >UK). which reminds me. i think i forgot to mention that she did a show at the knitting factory in noo yawk at the end of april which was just splendid. for all intensive purposes, it was throwing muses up there -- kristen, david narcizo, the mystery keyboardist who toured with the muses before they broke up, and tom gorman (belly) on bass. anyone know the deal on why she dropped them name? i heard the story that they were tired of not making any money recording and playing, i'm not sure that i'd buy that in light of the fact that kristen is still recording albums and touring with pretty much the same people. hmmm. anyways. they played for about 75 minutes and mixed a fair number of new songs with some older ones. from the sounds of the new ones, _sky motel_ should be an excellent record. looking forward to it. by the way, when keeping an eye-out for _sky motel_, keep the other one open for _castle of crime_ by lakuna -- an instrumental project by david narcizo. all the usual suspects (kristen, tom, and bernard georges) appear on some tracks, but it's primarily a cooperative effort by david and frank gardner (the guy who runs dream edit studio in rhode island). it should be out on 4ad in july sometime... woj ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 00:09:47 PDT From: Capitalism Blows Subject: quarrymen i believe it's, "all i wanted was a pepsi." cool! i know i said that i don't in the end give a fuck, but i am, for some reason, interested in keeping track, and this thing is fascinating. i think brian's actually an okay guy. he just sorta had a lot going on at the time, i think, and had trouble keeping track of his trades and whatnot; and when mails to him started bouncing, i just decided to quit putting energy into it. but elizabeth is, as i mentioned, a fucking bitch. so, go to the show with brian is my advice. i'll be god fucking damned. i'd always figured the phrase was: all *intents and* purposes. but woj's construction is very good. i like the sense of foreboding it evokes. seattle shows news. delete now unless you'll be attending. uh, picked up the tix today. nineteen bucks apiece, yes they were. the music starts at 9:00 on friday, and *7:00* on saturday. robyn is going on second. so, if the sets are really forty minutes each, i suppose we can figure upon robyn taking the stage at 10:00-ish on friday, and 8:00-ish on saturday. that's damned early, but, what can i say? i don't make the rules. wonder if any of the artists will play with any of the other artists? or if there will be a "jam" session? http://leb.net/iac/ http://www.beograd.com The world today has a major problem. That problem has a name. The name is not Milosevic, he is the small town villain. The name of the problem is United States of America. Their sense of exceptionalism, being above ordinary states and nations, is attractive. To break that many international law paragraphs can only be justified if you are above the law, in a direct relation to a God of the universe who "created America to bring order to the world" (Colin Powell) or, in more secular terms, "a global nation with global interests" (Shalikashvili). Smaller states flock to the Exceptional one to reflect, like the cold moon, some of the light, not to mention the heat, burning the non-believers. An old Western tradition. --Johan Galtung _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 03:17:17 -0500 From: David Librik Subject: Re: fegbooks update Mike Godwin wrote: >Some time ago I sent in an enthusiastic review of Philip Pullman's >'Northern Lights' (aka 'The Golden Compass'). I have just read the sequel >'The Subtle Knife', and it doesn't come up to the same standard. True. It's very much a middle volume of a trilogy, not as innovative and breathtaking as the first, and mostly concerned with building up to the big ideas and events of the final book. But what a buildup. Pullman is taking on the biggest themes, deftly reworking profound theological material, all without the slightest hint of a break in his flawless confidence or his commitment to writing a fantasy for children. If he pulls it off, he'll have done what Milton failed to do. But if he fails, the school-library fundamentalists will be calling for his blaspheming head for at least ten years. It looks like the narrowest of tightropes to me. I don't know what to make of _The Subtle Knife_ -- on its own, without knowing where Pullman is leading, I rather agree with you about its weaknesses -- but what is revealed in its chapters makes me think the whole series may turn out jaw-droppingly great. - - David Librik ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 22:35:31 +0930 From: dlang Subject: Return of the Quail(spiracy) Fegs, As I emoted previously, I have been mulling over the implications of one or two seemingly innocent recent happenings both on and off the list and have come to the conclusion that they have sinister , nay, malign overtones. Firstly, there is the question of Viv's missing Quail link pic ,not important in itself you may think, indeed , trivial some might say, but taken in the correct context, verily burgeoning with dire portents . Then there were the strange ,inexplicable behaviours of some html docs from my "Abandoned Brain "site. These files, all of which were Quail related - somehow managed to rearrange their content , so that entire passages of text were missing. Others were completely blank when in web mode but when viewed as an edit , were visible !!!!! One highly evolved Quail doc managed to combine elements from three separate pages and had some how embedded a counter within itself , from god knows where ! And now we get this , it MUST be connected >I know I have been very silent for a while . . . but I have a good reason, >and a happy one! >.....and I am now Vice President of >Bibliotech, Inc, and CEO/Editor of the Libyrinth. I read on with mounting dread, mingled with hysterical laughter, does he seriously think that we believe this unlikely story ? Are we that naive to be taken in by this pathetic ferrago of lies and deceit.? Well possibly one or two newbies who know no better might , but those of us who lived through the Quail wars of 97 and 98 know just what this creature - ( and I name him thus, for who can say that he is in reality a fully fledged ( sic ) member of the human race ) -is capable off and I trust that we collectively don our brown trousers in fear and trepidation as to what this seemingly jolly and innocent little post could possibly mean to the future sanity and well being of the denizens of the feglist . After a furtive hubble bubble or two I finally have come to the following conclusions. 1. Our pinioned friends extended absence from active posting, supported by his bogus cover as a fashion drone in NY has merely been an elaborate front designed to lull our suspicions of his ultimate plan to subvert the entire internet community ( the feglist being the first stepping stone and his testing ground for his insidious plans ). 2. During his extended absence the Quail has employed a robot drone poster to occasionally pen various short Quail style musings about classical music and Marillion to make us all think that he was really there, but in reality he was busy trying to remove all references and pictorial images of himself from the net in a bid to hide the ubiquitous nature of his evil plan .Whereas previously the idea was to flood the net with Quail references and images, he realised that this was drawing unwanted attention to his plans from such valorous entities as the heroic Friends Of Feg Corp. ( TM), hence the self imposed exile and the use of plan B- to wit, removal of the material . However its success was only partial- as we see in Vivs link, where the text was still intact , but the image has been nixed. . 3. The next step in this grotesque waltz has been to set himself up as a registered company with a figure head chairperson and board of directors , in a pathetic attempt to acquire a veneer of respectability, but we all know who will be really pulling the strings don't we ? 4. So remember , if you visit this labyrinth, who knows what canker and infection you will retain when you ( IF you ) emerge, from within its fetid bowels. No doubt you will spread the madness to whatever wormholes of the net you visit , until the entire web has been drawn shrieking into the insatiable maw of this feathered fiend !!!!. So its all my overactive imagination you may say to yourselves, but I know better, because my blood ran cold when I read this fateful sentence and realised the dread implications of his words > "And after I get settled down a bit in July, I may get back to posting a lot again," OH THE HORROR , THE HORROR of it , gnaaa, ya shoogaroth !!!!!!!!!!!!! feg xxxxxxxxx ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 14:57:23 +0100 (BST) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: gotta let this hen out video question > --- Capitalism Blows wrote: > the video has Sounds Great When You're Dead, which is not included on > the record. (and which the egyptians always managed to fucking nail. Yes, but the version on the video is just Robyn in a room playing SGWYD on an acoustic guitar, possibly even miming to the record. > Sometimes I Wish I Was A Pretty Girl, Acid > Bird, Egyptian Cream, The Face Of Death, and Listening To The Higsons are > all on the record but not the video (with the proviso that the video for > Listening To The Higsons is on the video, as vivien mentions). On the other hand, there are two concert tracks on the video which aren't on the LP: they are 'The Fly' and 'Only the stones remain' ('Leppo and the Jooves', which I mistakenly claimed was only on the video, is on both). The video box also has the words 'The Psychedelic Jews' written on it in Robyn's unique script. Were the Egyptians considering a change of name? The record states that it was recorded live at the Marquee on 27 April 1985 and "repaired at Alaska". Mixed by Pat Collier, Roger Jackson and Andy Metcalfe. There does not seem to be any production credit. Do the archives contain the full concert set list? I seem to recollect that someone has a copy of the full unedited concert on video. - - Mike Godwin ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 08:41:38 +0000 From: Eleanore Adams Subject: Very cool tunes I just saw the General's Daughter this weekend, and the most impressive thing about it was the soundtrack. I could not find it at Borders or Tower so I ordered it from Amazon.com yesterday, so I cannot give a review yet. It is filled with American Traditional tunes from the deep south, but with a definate Carribian/African flavor added. Very cool. eleanore ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 10:51:03 PDT From: Capitalism Blows Subject: Re: Return of the Quail(spiracy) this seems as good a time as any to mention this. i'm a lifetime Friend of ak press, so i receive all new ak press releases as they come out. a few months back, i found a book called The Philosophy of Punk in the letterbox. i think it's the second edition. anyhow, it's got something like 70 photo graphs of punk rock bands performing "live" in concert. well, i was just thumbing through looking at the pix, and at least *five* of them, perhaps more, were from performances in enola, penna.! i kept thinking alternately, "this has *got* to be the last one!" and "the great quail has *got* to be behind this!" KEN "Chairs, you got a dinette set. No chairs, you got dick" THE KENSTER _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 11:31:01 -0700 From: West Subject: Re: Revenge of the Nerds '99 g wrote: > fegs, > > Any thoughts on TNT's "Pirates of Silicon Valley" that aired last night? I felt a tad let down. Not knowing much of anything about this story, I followed it with great interest, but it seemed that just as things were really going good, the movie just jumped ahead to its ending. There's gotta be a whole bunch of stuff between the introduction of the Ridley Scott commercial and Steve Jobs' final comeuppance at the hands of Bill Gates. If anyone knows the name of the book upon which the movie is based, or can recommend any other books on the subject, I think I'll get a more comprehensive view of the tale that way. I did enjoy the performances though. I don't know how accurate they are, but I was fascinated by Noah Wyle's portrayal of Steve Jobs. Again, please excuse my ignorance, but I was under the impression that Jobs was one of the good guys, yet here he is being a giant asshole. I was also struck by the thought of how little people may know about the men and women who have altered our lives, for both good and evil. You'd think we would take more of an interest. Somethingly, West. ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V8 #215 *******************************